New homes may be built on site of pub

This Is Wiltshire: John Doyle behind the bar at the Queensfield pub, in happier days John Doyle behind the bar at the Queensfield pub, in happier days

TIME could soon be called on a troubled pub after plans were submitted to demolish it and build new houses on the site.

The Queensfield, in Stratton, closed in June after several difficult years and, if proposals get the go-ahead, its last pint has been poured.

An application has been put forward to replace the pub and its car park with eight houses, in four semi-detached buildings.

It will bring an end to several miserable years for the once popular pub as several managers tried and failed to make a profit.

Since re-opening in 2009, the Queensfield has closed several times, first in 2011 and then again this year.

When it shut in the summer, the owner, Enterprise Inns, said it was working to find new tenants to run the site.

But it now appears it has taken the decision to wash its hands of failing business.

John Doyle, 49, ran the pub from 2009 until 2011, when he was forced to close after failing to make a profit.

The part-time taxi driver believes there are a number of reasons why he, and landlords since, were not successful.

He said: “The simple fact is it doesn’t matter how busy or full the pub is, if you have to pay everything out in costs and bills then it’s not going to work.

“When I was at the Queensfield there was so much I had to pay out there was no chance of making money. “The rent was high as well as the cost of actually buying the beer in the first place.

“On top of that there were the business rates which meant no matter what I did, or the people after me, there were always high costs to pay.

“It seems that while everyone at the bottom is working hard, those above are doing nothing to help.”

The application is currently being considered by the council’s planning department and if successful will be the latest Swindon pub in recent months to be turned into residential accommodation.

Earlier this year The Grapes Hotel, in Faringdon Road, was turned into flats and an application has also been put forward to convert the nearby 12 Bar.

John feels this seems to be the way for many pubs in residential areas. He said: “It’s a shame to see the Queensfield go, as it is with any pub, but I think a lot of people aren’t going to pubs like this anymore.

“Things have changed quite a lot in what people want to do and if people aren’t using pubs then they will go. “I was told that if I had been in charge of the pub ten to 15 years ago then I wouldn’t have had a problem.”

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9:37am Mon 30 Dec 13

Oik1 says...

What will the local residents make of that?
Just think even more traffic and more parking problems on their so called rat-run, sorry, road that they want closed off to the motorists of the town.
What will the local residents make of that? Just think even more traffic and more parking problems on their so called rat-run, sorry, road that they want closed off to the motorists of the town. Oik1

10:20am Mon 30 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

Traditional drinking pubs sadly will not survive the industry cull. As with this plot the land is worth more to the pub company if it's not 'ring the tills'. I was surprised to read the Carriers Arms was sold to the sitting tenant by Punch Taverns. They could have put 4 houses on the plot, or a block of flats. Or perhaps they were afraid of the South Marston Mafia.
Traditional drinking pubs sadly will not survive the industry cull. As with this plot the land is worth more to the pub company if it's not 'ring the tills'. I was surprised to read the Carriers Arms was sold to the sitting tenant by Punch Taverns. They could have put 4 houses on the plot, or a block of flats. Or perhaps they were afraid of the South Marston Mafia. RichardR1

10:28am Mon 30 Dec 13

Empty Car Park says...

The Carriers is always full of customers and the tenant is very approachable and friendly.
Highly recommended
The Carriers is always full of customers and the tenant is very approachable and friendly. Highly recommended Empty Car Park

10:40am Mon 30 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
The Carriers is always full of customers and the tenant is very approachable and friendly.
Highly recommended
Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with BobFM continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions?

Here's to 2014 and your fresh start in pastures new.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: The Carriers is always full of customers and the tenant is very approachable and friendly. Highly recommended[/p][/quote]Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with BobFM continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions? Here's to 2014 and your fresh start in pastures new. Ringer

10:55am Mon 30 Dec 13

house on the hill says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Traditional drinking pubs sadly will not survive the industry cull. As with this plot the land is worth more to the pub company if it's not 'ring the tills'. I was surprised to read the Carriers Arms was sold to the sitting tenant by Punch Taverns. They could have put 4 houses on the plot, or a block of flats. Or perhaps they were afraid of the South Marston Mafia.
Good, alcohol causes so many social problems its about time society grew up and understood their responsibilties to themselves and others.
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Traditional drinking pubs sadly will not survive the industry cull. As with this plot the land is worth more to the pub company if it's not 'ring the tills'. I was surprised to read the Carriers Arms was sold to the sitting tenant by Punch Taverns. They could have put 4 houses on the plot, or a block of flats. Or perhaps they were afraid of the South Marston Mafia.[/p][/quote]Good, alcohol causes so many social problems its about time society grew up and understood their responsibilties to themselves and others. house on the hill

11:03am Mon 30 Dec 13

Empty Car Park says...

Ringer wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
The Carriers is always full of customers and the tenant is very approachable and friendly.
Highly recommended
Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with BobFM continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions?

Here's to 2014 and your fresh start in pastures new.
No mention of Bobfm in my comment.

Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with me continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions?

Here's to 2014 and your continued theme
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: The Carriers is always full of customers and the tenant is very approachable and friendly. Highly recommended[/p][/quote]Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with BobFM continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions? Here's to 2014 and your fresh start in pastures new.[/p][/quote]No mention of Bobfm in my comment. Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with me continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions? Here's to 2014 and your continued theme Empty Car Park

11:15am Mon 30 Dec 13

Hearditallbefore says...

Good pubs stay busy.
Look around Old town.
If run right they prosper.
Good pubs stay busy. Look around Old town. If run right they prosper. Hearditallbefore

11:20am Mon 30 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
The Carriers is always full of customers and the tenant is very approachable and friendly.
Highly recommended
Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with BobFM continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions?

Here's to 2014 and your fresh start in pastures new.
No mention of Bobfm in my comment.

Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with me continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions?

Here's to 2014 and your continued theme
I very much doubt anyone has ever been 'fascinated' by you in the entire history of your life. That isn't about to change anytime soon.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: The Carriers is always full of customers and the tenant is very approachable and friendly. Highly recommended[/p][/quote]Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with BobFM continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions? Here's to 2014 and your fresh start in pastures new.[/p][/quote]No mention of Bobfm in my comment. Ah, yes, your bizarre fascination with me continues. Tell me, does your wife not get a bit concerned with your obsessions? Here's to 2014 and your continued theme[/p][/quote]I very much doubt anyone has ever been 'fascinated' by you in the entire history of your life. That isn't about to change anytime soon. Ringer

11:23am Mon 30 Dec 13

ManWithCar says...

house on the hill wrote:
RichardR1 wrote: Traditional drinking pubs sadly will not survive the industry cull. As with this plot the land is worth more to the pub company if it's not 'ring the tills'. I was surprised to read the Carriers Arms was sold to the sitting tenant by Punch Taverns. They could have put 4 houses on the plot, or a block of flats. Or perhaps they were afraid of the South Marston Mafia.
Good, alcohol causes so many social problems its about time society grew up and understood their responsibilties to themselves and others.
Fascinating that pubs have been around since the Middle Ages and have been the pivotal hub of society - not just drinking but the place where people met to socialise, play games (dominos, cribbage, whist etc), clubs met in pubs and family functions were held there etc. Now people like you want to lay the "social problems" of society on pubs and see them all closed down.

So the supermarkets selling strong, cheap alcohol and encouraging people to drink at home have no place in this? The dealers selling mind-bending drugs to weak-minded individuals and runing families, that's down to pubs is it?

If a REAL pub is run properly - there's no abuse of alcohol. I've worked in pubs and refused countless customers a drink because they have been either under age or they have had enough. There's no mystery to it. If however, a pub is run poorly - then you end up with a hardcore of drinkers who don't give a **** about themselves or anyone else, but anyone else with an ounce of sense gives the place a wide berth.

Perhaps you will be happy though when the majority are all sat at home, drinking themselves to death because there's no one to regulate it.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Traditional drinking pubs sadly will not survive the industry cull. As with this plot the land is worth more to the pub company if it's not 'ring the tills'. I was surprised to read the Carriers Arms was sold to the sitting tenant by Punch Taverns. They could have put 4 houses on the plot, or a block of flats. Or perhaps they were afraid of the South Marston Mafia.[/p][/quote]Good, alcohol causes so many social problems its about time society grew up and understood their responsibilties to themselves and others.[/p][/quote]Fascinating that pubs have been around since the Middle Ages and have been the pivotal hub of society - not just drinking but the place where people met to socialise, play games (dominos, cribbage, whist etc), clubs met in pubs and family functions were held there etc. Now people like you want to lay the "social problems" of society on pubs and see them all closed down. So the supermarkets selling strong, cheap alcohol and encouraging people to drink at home have no place in this? The dealers selling mind-bending drugs to weak-minded individuals and runing families, that's down to pubs is it? If a REAL pub is run properly - there's no abuse of alcohol. I've worked in pubs and refused countless customers a drink because they have been either under age or they have had enough. There's no mystery to it. If however, a pub is run poorly - then you end up with a hardcore of drinkers who don't give a **** about themselves or anyone else, but anyone else with an ounce of sense gives the place a wide berth. Perhaps you will be happy though when the majority are all sat at home, drinking themselves to death because there's no one to regulate it. ManWithCar

11:37am Mon 30 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

People still require public houses, Just not as many as previously. The cost of going out means many will struggle unless they offer food or are in a prime location.

Doesn't matter on this site though what happens. There is always someone taking the **** or running things down. The Liden arms article the other day for instance. A couple making a go of it yet getting pelters on here.
People still require public houses, Just not as many as previously. The cost of going out means many will struggle unless they offer food or are in a prime location. Doesn't matter on this site though what happens. There is always someone taking the **** or running things down. The Liden arms article the other day for instance. A couple making a go of it yet getting pelters on here. Davey Gravey

11:47am Mon 30 Dec 13

pendingo says...

It appears pubs in the UK are a declining industry.
Not surprising really with all the costs involved including the high price of beers, wines and spirits.
Add to that the banning of smoking in public places (I'm not a smoker by the way), competition from large conglomerates such as Whitherspoons, cheap alcohol in supermarkets and so on, all nails in the coffin.
RIP good old British pub, gone but not forgotten.
It appears pubs in the UK are a declining industry. Not surprising really with all the costs involved including the high price of beers, wines and spirits. Add to that the banning of smoking in public places (I'm not a smoker by the way), competition from large conglomerates such as Whitherspoons, cheap alcohol in supermarkets and so on, all nails in the coffin. RIP good old British pub, gone but not forgotten. pendingo

12:11pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Rubbercement says...

8 houses!! On that little plot?? Really?
8 houses!! On that little plot?? Really? Rubbercement

12:31pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Mango man says...

£10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine.
£10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones).
It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs
£10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine. £10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones). It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs Mango man

3:22pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Hearditallbefore says...

That pub was never busy when other pubs were busy..
That pub was never busy when other pubs were busy.. Hearditallbefore

4:22pm Mon 30 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

Empty Car Park, if your comments are true then even more strange they sold it. I know lots of lessees who would love to buy their freeholds but the pubco's simply say no, or ask for silly money for the reasons I stated.
Empty Car Park, if your comments are true then even more strange they sold it. I know lots of lessees who would love to buy their freeholds but the pubco's simply say no, or ask for silly money for the reasons I stated. RichardR1

4:46pm Mon 30 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

Mango so where do you drink. I get two pints and a glass of Rioja in most pubs.
Mango so where do you drink. I get two pints and a glass of Rioja in most pubs. RichardR1

4:52pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Tyran66 says...

Its like watching a couple of stag beetles circle each other before fighting. On first impressions both look impressive and dangerous and then 1/2 second into the fight you realise both are ultimately harmless impotent little critters.
Its like watching a couple of stag beetles circle each other before fighting. On first impressions both look impressive and dangerous and then 1/2 second into the fight you realise both are ultimately harmless impotent little critters. Tyran66

4:53pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Tyran66 says...

Hearditallbefore wrote:
Good pubs stay busy.
Look around Old town.
If run right they prosper.
Except they don't, most go bust because the profit margin no longer exists and fixed costs / taxes have increased well above inflation. Look at the Goddard's, always full - just gone pop.
[quote][p][bold]Hearditallbefore[/bold] wrote: Good pubs stay busy. Look around Old town. If run right they prosper.[/p][/quote]Except they don't, most go bust because the profit margin no longer exists and fixed costs / taxes have increased well above inflation. Look at the Goddard's, always full - just gone pop. Tyran66

4:56pm Mon 30 Dec 13

daws says...

Mango man wrote:
£10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine.
£10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones).
It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs
you obviously aint got many friends to go out with and socialize you sad f..... Not the pubs fault, its the government who sets the outrageous tax on alcohol and not helping pubs with their overheheads
[quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: £10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine. £10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones). It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs[/p][/quote]you obviously aint got many friends to go out with and socialize you sad f..... Not the pubs fault, its the government who sets the outrageous tax on alcohol and not helping pubs with their overheheads daws

4:57pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Hearditallbefore says...

The holding company went into administration not the pub itself.
How can you honestly say most go bust?
The holding company went into administration not the pub itself. How can you honestly say most go bust? Hearditallbefore

5:08pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Tyran66 says...

Hearditallbefore wrote:
The holding company went into administration not the pub itself.
How can you honestly say most go bust?
Between 26-40 pubs a week have been closing during the recession, many of them very good. 4000 are forecast to close next year.

Holding company's just churn properties as do bad breweries/ management companies, each time fleecing the tenant for their investment cash. Its a very well documented phenomenon.

Its naïve to assume that because a place is busy its profitable, profit margins have to cater for future investment as well as cover operating costs. Many good pubs now find themselves in an unsustainable position, having survived the recession they have no reserves to reinvest. Its very sad and the blame for it lays largely with the government and supermarkets and only sometimes a complacent landlord.
[quote][p][bold]Hearditallbefore[/bold] wrote: The holding company went into administration not the pub itself. How can you honestly say most go bust?[/p][/quote]Between 26-40 pubs a week have been closing during the recession, many of them very good. 4000 are forecast to close next year. Holding company's just churn properties as do bad breweries/ management companies, each time fleecing the tenant for their investment cash. Its a very well documented phenomenon. Its naïve to assume that because a place is busy its profitable, profit margins have to cater for future investment as well as cover operating costs. Many good pubs now find themselves in an unsustainable position, having survived the recession they have no reserves to reinvest. Its very sad and the blame for it lays largely with the government and supermarkets and only sometimes a complacent landlord. Tyran66

5:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Mango man says...

daws wrote:
Mango man wrote:
£10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine.
£10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones).
It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs
you obviously aint got many friends to go out with and socialize you sad f..... Not the pubs fault, its the government who sets the outrageous tax on alcohol and not helping pubs with their overheheads
Not sure how I'm a sad f..... By pointing out its cheaper not to go to the pub???
Clearly the places you frequent to drag you're knuckles around are better value. Were you one of the benefits brigade asked to leave Lava last week when the cops shut it down or just a previous landlord who's pub is now boarded up because you're sparkling personality wasn't enough to keep the punters flocking in?
[quote][p][bold]daws[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: £10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine. £10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones). It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs[/p][/quote]you obviously aint got many friends to go out with and socialize you sad f..... Not the pubs fault, its the government who sets the outrageous tax on alcohol and not helping pubs with their overheheads[/p][/quote]Not sure how I'm a sad f..... By pointing out its cheaper not to go to the pub??? Clearly the places you frequent to drag you're knuckles around are better value. Were you one of the benefits brigade asked to leave Lava last week when the cops shut it down or just a previous landlord who's pub is now boarded up because you're sparkling personality wasn't enough to keep the punters flocking in? Mango man

6:08pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Mango so where do you drink. I get two pints and a glass of Rioja in most pubs.
Probably an Arkells pub. Extortionate prices
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Mango so where do you drink. I get two pints and a glass of Rioja in most pubs.[/p][/quote]Probably an Arkells pub. Extortionate prices Davey Gravey

6:11pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Mango so where do you drink. I get two pints and a glass of Rioja in most pubs.
Probably an Arkells pub. Extortionate prices
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Mango so where do you drink. I get two pints and a glass of Rioja in most pubs.[/p][/quote]Probably an Arkells pub. Extortionate prices Davey Gravey

6:14pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Mango man says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Mango so where do you drink. I get two pints and a glass of Rioja in most pubs.
Anywhere half decent leaves you with a few pennies from £10 for a pint and large glass of Blue Nun
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Mango so where do you drink. I get two pints and a glass of Rioja in most pubs.[/p][/quote]Anywhere half decent leaves you with a few pennies from £10 for a pint and large glass of Blue Nun Mango man

8:41am Tue 31 Dec 13

silvergran says...

Well I never saw that coming! It's a shame that this is happening but the number of houses on that plot sounds ridiculous - it's not that huge.
Well I never saw that coming! It's a shame that this is happening but the number of houses on that plot sounds ridiculous - it's not that huge. silvergran

12:34pm Tue 31 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

As always many experts abound, no matter what profession some know better than those doing it. As has been said the closure of pubs is well documented for a lot of reasons.

Having read a lot of stories about closures it does seem a combination of events and costs. No matter where you go in the country even apparently successful pubs have a downside, one partner working another job, or both working 100 hours a week each as they can't afford staff. That is no way for anyone to live.

So when you complain about the cost of your beer just think how few hours you may have worked to be able to buy it. I have heard it said that the majority of tenants of pubs probably earn as little as 50p per hour each.
As always many experts abound, no matter what profession some know better than those doing it. As has been said the closure of pubs is well documented for a lot of reasons. Having read a lot of stories about closures it does seem a combination of events and costs. No matter where you go in the country even apparently successful pubs have a downside, one partner working another job, or both working 100 hours a week each as they can't afford staff. That is no way for anyone to live. So when you complain about the cost of your beer just think how few hours you may have worked to be able to buy it. I have heard it said that the majority of tenants of pubs probably earn as little as 50p per hour each. RichardR1

3:09pm Tue 31 Dec 13

daws says...

Mango man wrote:
daws wrote:
Mango man wrote:
£10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine.
£10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones).
It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs
you obviously aint got many friends to go out with and socialize you sad f..... Not the pubs fault, its the government who sets the outrageous tax on alcohol and not helping pubs with their overheheads
Not sure how I'm a sad f..... By pointing out its cheaper not to go to the pub???
Clearly the places you frequent to drag you're knuckles around are better value. Were you one of the benefits brigade asked to leave Lava last week when the cops shut it down or just a previous landlord who's pub is now boarded up because you're sparkling personality wasn't enough to keep the punters flocking in?
Course your a sad one , you got no mates so why would you go to a pub and drink on your own, stick to the cheap co op lager in ya front room with the mrs son, Im off to Lava
[quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daws[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: £10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine. £10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones). It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs[/p][/quote]you obviously aint got many friends to go out with and socialize you sad f..... Not the pubs fault, its the government who sets the outrageous tax on alcohol and not helping pubs with their overheheads[/p][/quote]Not sure how I'm a sad f..... By pointing out its cheaper not to go to the pub??? Clearly the places you frequent to drag you're knuckles around are better value. Were you one of the benefits brigade asked to leave Lava last week when the cops shut it down or just a previous landlord who's pub is now boarded up because you're sparkling personality wasn't enough to keep the punters flocking in?[/p][/quote]Course your a sad one , you got no mates so why would you go to a pub and drink on your own, stick to the cheap co op lager in ya front room with the mrs son, Im off to Lava daws

4:22pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Mango man says...

daws wrote:
Mango man wrote:
daws wrote:
Mango man wrote:
£10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine.
£10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones).
It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs
you obviously aint got many friends to go out with and socialize you sad f..... Not the pubs fault, its the government who sets the outrageous tax on alcohol and not helping pubs with their overheheads
Not sure how I'm a sad f..... By pointing out its cheaper not to go to the pub???
Clearly the places you frequent to drag you're knuckles around are better value. Were you one of the benefits brigade asked to leave Lava last week when the cops shut it down or just a previous landlord who's pub is now boarded up because you're sparkling personality wasn't enough to keep the punters flocking in?
Course your a sad one , you got no mates so why would you go to a pub and drink on your own, stick to the cheap co op lager in ya front room with the mrs son, Im off to Lava
Enjoy Lava with all your benefit scrounging tattoo covered fag smoking swindon scummers, don't forget casbah will be open for you and your intellectual mates as well .........
[quote][p][bold]daws[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daws[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mango man[/bold] wrote: £10 in a pub will get you a pint and a large glass of average wine. £10 spent elsewhere will get you a couple of bottles of decent wine (if choosing half price ones). It's a no brainer in terms of affordability, hence the need for less pubs[/p][/quote]you obviously aint got many friends to go out with and socialize you sad f..... Not the pubs fault, its the government who sets the outrageous tax on alcohol and not helping pubs with their overheheads[/p][/quote]Not sure how I'm a sad f..... By pointing out its cheaper not to go to the pub??? Clearly the places you frequent to drag you're knuckles around are better value. Were you one of the benefits brigade asked to leave Lava last week when the cops shut it down or just a previous landlord who's pub is now boarded up because you're sparkling personality wasn't enough to keep the punters flocking in?[/p][/quote]Course your a sad one , you got no mates so why would you go to a pub and drink on your own, stick to the cheap co op lager in ya front room with the mrs son, Im off to Lava[/p][/quote]Enjoy Lava with all your benefit scrounging tattoo covered fag smoking swindon scummers, don't forget casbah will be open for you and your intellectual mates as well ......... Mango man

2:16am Wed 1 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

So when you complain about the cost of your beer just think how few hours you may have worked to be able to buy it. I have heard it said that the majority of tenants of pubs probably earn as little as 50p per hour each.


LOL
[quote]So when you complain about the cost of your beer just think how few hours you may have worked to be able to buy it. I have heard it said that the majority of tenants of pubs probably earn as little as 50p per hour each.[/quote] LOL Empty Car Park

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