Honda rejects get ‘tap on shoulder’

This Is Wiltshire: Unite oficer Jim D’Avila Unite oficer Jim D’Avila

WORKERS set for redundancy at Honda are allegedly being identified with a tap of their shoulder whilst they work, in full view of their friends and co-workers.

The allegations have come from the wife of a production associate who has watched his friends picked off, one-by-one, by line managers who are stalking departments with the bad news.

The claims have been backed by Unite’s regional co-ordinating officer in Swindon, Jim D’Avila, who has blasted the methods being adopted by chiefs at Honda of the UK Manufacturing (HUM).

The wife, who chose to remain anonymous, said: “This week they made their announcement on compulsory redundancies and they have been using a shoulder tap to let people know if they are going.

“People are doing their jobs and the powers that be are going around tapping them on their shoulders.

“They are walking them to their lockers and escorting them off-site. They are letting them work their full shift and then being told they’re out. It’s just the most appalling way to be handling the situation.”

On Monday, HUM announced it would be making 99 compulsory redundancies as a part of its wider attempt to cut 340 permanent and 160 temporary staff from its ranks.

It has spent this week informing those unfortunate few who will be made redundant, though they are being offered the same enhanced package dished out to those who chose to leave voluntarily in April.

Mr D’Avila said Unite was creating a list of all the actions taken by HUM which must be improved upon in any future redundancy option.

“We advised them to do it differently. If they have to do it, they should’ve done it by letter and said you will continue to work until you get invited to a meeting.

“Now, it’s like the secret police or Gestapo are coming along while they’re all working. When somebody’s spoken to, everyone knows they’re going. They don’t even get the opportunity of saying goodbye. It’s done deliberately so the individuals feel isolated.”

A HUM spokeswoman said: “Associates have been discreetly asked to come off line to a preliminary meeting to discuss provisional selection for redundancy.

“At the preliminary meeting they are given a very polite letter that invites them to attend an individual consultation meeting . After this preliminary meeting they are allowed to leave site on full pay.

“We are hoping to complete the process by May 22 and will then write to all associates to take them off risk.”

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7:53am Sat 17 May 14

Davethered says...

What a great company to work for . I done 6 years in there and every second was like hell . So glad I got out when I did . Feel sorry for you fellas.
I bet the agencies are gearing themselves up now for the next influx of temps to go into Honda. Come September.
What a great company to work for . I done 6 years in there and every second was like hell . So glad I got out when I did . Feel sorry for you fellas. I bet the agencies are gearing themselves up now for the next influx of temps to go into Honda. Come September. Davethered
  • Score: 16

10:57am Sat 17 May 14

red_gilly says...

Honda have treated them disgustingly, taken in and told up for redundancy, then sent home once escorted off by security.consultatio
n meetings already happened but despite what is said, won't make a difference, told you have 2 days to sign your package or you loose enhance package, so have you over a barrel, lovely way to treat loyal workers. Even been said they are loosing some of their best workers due to the scoring system.. i would be worried if i was still working there and think even though it is hard it is better to get out now, as the treatment of staff there is not going to get any better, more redundancies will keep happening. Wonder what will happen if we come out of EU.
Honda have treated them disgustingly, taken in and told up for redundancy, then sent home once escorted off by security.consultatio n meetings already happened but despite what is said, won't make a difference, told you have 2 days to sign your package or you loose enhance package, so have you over a barrel, lovely way to treat loyal workers. Even been said they are loosing some of their best workers due to the scoring system.. i would be worried if i was still working there and think even though it is hard it is better to get out now, as the treatment of staff there is not going to get any better, more redundancies will keep happening. Wonder what will happen if we come out of EU. red_gilly
  • Score: 9

12:26pm Sat 17 May 14

faatmaan says...

no different to Motorola, and I suspect many other companies, it is something that will never be able to be done without discomfort and bad feelings, good luck to the unlucky ones.

Just for interest, I wonder how many of the ones selected were the so called bad boys ?
no different to Motorola, and I suspect many other companies, it is something that will never be able to be done without discomfort and bad feelings, good luck to the unlucky ones. Just for interest, I wonder how many of the ones selected were the so called bad boys ? faatmaan
  • Score: 5

1:15pm Sat 17 May 14

red_gilly says...

Well i know of several who were not bad boys and had very good attendance, attitude and were hard workers, wonder how many were under 35??. Redundancies happen in all buisnesses but this is about how they were treated when first told they were the provisional ones and how they have been treated since!!!
Well i know of several who were not bad boys and had very good attendance, attitude and were hard workers, wonder how many were under 35??. Redundancies happen in all buisnesses but this is about how they were treated when first told they were the provisional ones and how they have been treated since!!! red_gilly
  • Score: 8

7:47pm Sun 18 May 14

billymcred says...

Word of mouth story without facts, did lose some good associates Jim Davila forgot to mention " unite " the union insisted on the scoring system that cost the good associates there jobs. Bad boys got to stay as they are the ones who use the unions the most.
The associates that were asked to leave were told just after there shift had started, when else would they be told. Oh and of course they were escorted to there lockers and off site do you know how much damage could be done to cars or machinery if they were allowed to stay it's not rocket science is it.
Good luck to those who were unfortunate to lose there jobs when they didn't deserve to, those who did deserve to because the played the system or kept making the same mistakes got what they deserved didn't they.
Word of mouth story without facts, did lose some good associates Jim Davila forgot to mention " unite " the union insisted on the scoring system that cost the good associates there jobs. Bad boys got to stay as they are the ones who use the unions the most. The associates that were asked to leave were told just after there shift had started, when else would they be told. Oh and of course they were escorted to there lockers and off site do you know how much damage could be done to cars or machinery if they were allowed to stay it's not rocket science is it. Good luck to those who were unfortunate to lose there jobs when they didn't deserve to, those who did deserve to because the played the system or kept making the same mistakes got what they deserved didn't they. billymcred
  • Score: 5

6:09am Mon 19 May 14

omitec12 says...

We suffered 10 years of that at Clares equipment you felt like you were in the sights of a sniper but when we got hold of the union to do something about it they weren't interested......
We suffered 10 years of that at Clares equipment you felt like you were in the sights of a sniper but when we got hold of the union to do something about it they weren't interested...... omitec12
  • Score: 0

12:44pm Mon 19 May 14

ChannelX says...

When will people learn that the ONLY thing unions are interested in is your subscription payments?
When will people learn that the ONLY thing unions are interested in is your subscription payments? ChannelX
  • Score: 5

10:33pm Mon 19 May 14

asimo says...

billymcred wrote:
Word of mouth story without facts, did lose some good associates Jim Davila forgot to mention " unite " the union insisted on the scoring system that cost the good associates there jobs. Bad boys got to stay as they are the ones who use the unions the most.
The associates that were asked to leave were told just after there shift had started, when else would they be told. Oh and of course they were escorted to there lockers and off site do you know how much damage could be done to cars or machinery if they were allowed to stay it's not rocket science is it.
Good luck to those who were unfortunate to lose there jobs when they didn't deserve to, those who did deserve to because the played the system or kept making the same mistakes got what they deserved didn't they.
If so many bad boys got to stay how is that the fault of the union or the company . . . engage your brain before making stupid comments I say billymcred . . who by the way can't spell THEIR !. Do you honestly think the company would discriminate against those not in the union and how would the company know who was in the union ? Please explain how unite insisted on a scoring system when full consultations took place ? The fact is nobody deserved to go but with a tough economic climate something somewhere had to give. If you think for a minute the system players as you seem to think (not even a half educated guess) stayed then you really are talking out of your arse. . . Who do the workers turn to when they have a problem . . . you've guessed it billymcred the company ? I think not ! Fact !
[quote][p][bold]billymcred[/bold] wrote: Word of mouth story without facts, did lose some good associates Jim Davila forgot to mention " unite " the union insisted on the scoring system that cost the good associates there jobs. Bad boys got to stay as they are the ones who use the unions the most. The associates that were asked to leave were told just after there shift had started, when else would they be told. Oh and of course they were escorted to there lockers and off site do you know how much damage could be done to cars or machinery if they were allowed to stay it's not rocket science is it. Good luck to those who were unfortunate to lose there jobs when they didn't deserve to, those who did deserve to because the played the system or kept making the same mistakes got what they deserved didn't they.[/p][/quote]If so many bad boys got to stay how is that the fault of the union or the company . . . engage your brain before making stupid comments I say billymcred . . who by the way can't spell THEIR !. Do you honestly think the company would discriminate against those not in the union and how would the company know who was in the union ? Please explain how unite insisted on a scoring system when full consultations took place ? The fact is nobody deserved to go but with a tough economic climate something somewhere had to give. If you think for a minute the system players as you seem to think (not even a half educated guess) stayed then you really are talking out of your arse. . . Who do the workers turn to when they have a problem . . . you've guessed it billymcred the company ? I think not ! Fact ! asimo
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10:52pm Mon 19 May 14

billymcred says...

asimo wrote:
billymcred wrote:
Word of mouth story without facts, did lose some good associates Jim Davila forgot to mention " unite " the union insisted on the scoring system that cost the good associates there jobs. Bad boys got to stay as they are the ones who use the unions the most.
The associates that were asked to leave were told just after there shift had started, when else would they be told. Oh and of course they were escorted to there lockers and off site do you know how much damage could be done to cars or machinery if they were allowed to stay it's not rocket science is it.
Good luck to those who were unfortunate to lose there jobs when they didn't deserve to, those who did deserve to because the played the system or kept making the same mistakes got what they deserved didn't they.
If so many bad boys got to stay how is that the fault of the union or the company . . . engage your brain before making stupid comments I say billymcred . . who by the way can't spell THEIR !. Do you honestly think the company would discriminate against those not in the union and how would the company know who was in the union ? Please explain how unite insisted on a scoring system when full consultations took place ? The fact is nobody deserved to go but with a tough economic climate something somewhere had to give. If you think for a minute the system players as you seem to think (not even a half educated guess) stayed then you really are talking out of your arse. . . Who do the workers turn to when they have a problem . . . you've guessed it billymcred the company ? I think not ! Fact !
You don't have a clue do you I know associates who use THEIR sick days as extra holidays just staying below "allowed " absence rate or use the unions to get "off" on technicalities when they should be sacked go on long term sick and get other jobs. All true !
Did You know associates used to get a bonus every month just to turn up on time then turned up late anyway so union are trying to get this bonus included into normal wage what a joke you would be surprised what goes on and what associates get away with.
Loads of associates still owe hours won't work over time to pay it back cause " they don't get paid" they have already been paid one talk about killing the goose that laid the golden eggs never had it so good and wanted more for nothing, only other place things like this would happen is working for SBC
[quote][p][bold]asimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billymcred[/bold] wrote: Word of mouth story without facts, did lose some good associates Jim Davila forgot to mention " unite " the union insisted on the scoring system that cost the good associates there jobs. Bad boys got to stay as they are the ones who use the unions the most. The associates that were asked to leave were told just after there shift had started, when else would they be told. Oh and of course they were escorted to there lockers and off site do you know how much damage could be done to cars or machinery if they were allowed to stay it's not rocket science is it. Good luck to those who were unfortunate to lose there jobs when they didn't deserve to, those who did deserve to because the played the system or kept making the same mistakes got what they deserved didn't they.[/p][/quote]If so many bad boys got to stay how is that the fault of the union or the company . . . engage your brain before making stupid comments I say billymcred . . who by the way can't spell THEIR !. Do you honestly think the company would discriminate against those not in the union and how would the company know who was in the union ? Please explain how unite insisted on a scoring system when full consultations took place ? The fact is nobody deserved to go but with a tough economic climate something somewhere had to give. If you think for a minute the system players as you seem to think (not even a half educated guess) stayed then you really are talking out of your arse. . . Who do the workers turn to when they have a problem . . . you've guessed it billymcred the company ? I think not ! Fact ![/p][/quote]You don't have a clue do you I know associates who use THEIR sick days as extra holidays just staying below "allowed " absence rate or use the unions to get "off" on technicalities when they should be sacked go on long term sick and get other jobs. All true ! Did You know associates used to get a bonus every month just to turn up on time then turned up late anyway so union are trying to get this bonus included into normal wage what a joke you would be surprised what goes on and what associates get away with. Loads of associates still owe hours won't work over time to pay it back cause " they don't get paid" they have already been paid one talk about killing the goose that laid the golden eggs never had it so good and wanted more for nothing, only other place things like this would happen is working for SBC billymcred
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4:58pm Tue 20 May 14

Sarah-jane12 says...

There is no "nice " way of being made redundant. A place I worked all staff were called to a meeting, one in room A , another in room B , all those in room B made redundant there and then, escorted to their desk and then off the premises. Most companies escort you off the premises, they have to in case any damage is done. I hope all those who have lost their jobs find new employment and those that stay appreciate still having a job!
There is no "nice " way of being made redundant. A place I worked all staff were called to a meeting, one in room A , another in room B , all those in room B made redundant there and then, escorted to their desk and then off the premises. Most companies escort you off the premises, they have to in case any damage is done. I hope all those who have lost their jobs find new employment and those that stay appreciate still having a job! Sarah-jane12
  • Score: 1

6:45am Wed 21 May 14

edmundfitzgerald says...

Totally agree with channel x.
Totally agree with channel x. edmundfitzgerald
  • Score: 0

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