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FULL TIME: Town 1 Charlton 1

ANOTHER late goal saw Swindon surrender three points at the death against Charlton at the County Ground this afternoon.

Nicky Bailey wheels away after scoring Charlton's late equaliser Nicky Bailey wheels away after scoring Charlton's late equaliser

After Kevin Amankwaah had steered home from a corner for his third goal of the season in the 65th minute, the Robins looked set to secure their sixth consecutive home win.

But those hopes were dashed in the 93rd minute when Nicky Bailey fired home beneath David Lucas to restore parity and leave a wear-looking Town frustrated once again.

In a cagey affair, the hosts dominated the majority of the first half, and hit the crossbar via Gordon Greer's header. But Charlton utilised their substitutes to good effect as the game dragged on, and were worthy of a point.

Here are the key moments from today's match:

12 minutes: Simon Ferry robs Nicky Bailey of possession 30 yards from goal and threads through Jonathan Douglas, but the midfielder's effort is well saved by Rob Elliot in the visiting goal.

From the ensuing corner Gordon Greer's flicked header crashes against the crossbar with Elliot beaten, and Scott Cuthbert nods the follow-up over the top of the goal and into the Stratton Bank.

17 mins: Absolute mayhem in the Charlton area as Amankwaah's cross eventually falls to Billy Paynter who can only stab his shot at Elliot.

The ball breaks for Ferry, but his tame effort is accidentally blocked by Paynter on the line with Elliot stranded.

21 mins: Town are all over their guests here, winning every 50-50 challenge and finding space right across the pitch.

Danny Ward sees his cross blcked by Frazer Richardson and his appeals for handball are waved away by referee Hall.

32 mins: Uncharacteristic miss from Charlie Austin. The striker latches onto a loose ball 12 yards out but cannot wrap his foot around it well enough to steer it goalwards and the 20-year-old's strike skids wide of Charlton's left hand post.

38 mins: Finally Charlton show their class and are within a hair's breadth of taking the lead after Jonjo Shelvery hammers his shot against the bar after Akpo Sodje's pull back.

39 mins: Kyel Reid's long range effort is comfortably dealt with by Lucas.

47 mins: Greer and Therry Racon's heads collide midway inside the Town half.

Racon requires stitches to a head wound and leaves the field of play.

Greer re-emerges three minutes later modelling the latest look from the Terry Butcher range.

65 mins: GOAL (Amankwaah, 1-0) McGovern and Greer produce a free kick right off the training ground as the midfielder's neat short corner is flicked on by the Robins' skipper at the near post and Kevin Amankwaah has the space to guide in his third of the season from eight yards out.

68 mins: Forget the sink, Charlton are throwing the entire proverbial kitchen at Town in search of an equaliser.

Addicks boss Phil Parkinson sends on his final sub, striker Deon Burton, in place of left-back Grant Basey. Nicky Bailey's long rage drive is simple for Lucas to parry and collect.

85 mins: There are a lot of tired Swindon legs out there now, and the visitors are looking more and more threatening.

Jean-Francois almost plays his side into trouble, hesitating on the edge of the area and allowing Sodje a sight of goal.

But Greer slides in before the big centre forward has a chance to pull the trigger.

90 (+3) mins: GOAL (Bailey, 1-1) It's happened again. Town give Nicky Bailey space in the area and the visiting captain latches onto Burton's pass to fire beneath Lucas and level affairs.

Swindon Town: (4-4-2) David Lucas, Kevin Amankwaah, Scott Cuthbert, Gordon Greer, Lecsinel Jean-Francois; Jon-Paul McGovern, Jonathan Douglas, Simon Ferry, Danny Ward; Charlie Austin, Billy Paynter

Charlton Athletic:: (4-4-1-1) Rob Elliot, Frazer Richardson, Sam Sodje, Christian Dailly, Grant Basey; Scott Wagstaff, Nicky Bailey, Therry Racon, Kyel Reid; Jonjo Shelvey; Akpo Sodje


Comments (90)

06/02/10

TenerifeRed says...

not again :(

06/02/10

TenerifeRed says...

with so many other results going our way that hurts

06/02/10

lunnyboy says...

FFS !!! , how many more points are we gonna drop because we cant defend for a whole 90 minutes ! . I knew this was gonna happen !!! , gonna cost us a play off place come may you watch !! . Sort it out ffs !!!

06/02/10

vikingred says...

Same old story. Annoying, but I guess we are still on a decent run. Forget top two cos that ain't never gonna happen. We gotta keep one eye looking over our shoulders cos we are being chased hard by a few Clubs. Does feel like four points thrown away in the last two games and they could prove vital in the run in. Would be nice to have a big gap between us and seventh place.

06/02/10

Redhouse Red says...

Why?

06/02/10

swindon30 says...

Sat in my car and I'm still in shock. Yet another 2 points dropped. That's 4 in 2 games not to mention the ones in the early season.

I don't think a top 2 finish is totaly out of the question with games I'm hand, but playoff spot is much more likely.

It was bad defending at the end and you could question tatics again but what really frustrates me even more than the draw is the **** booing at the end

grow up and go support somone else if u want that to boo at what was genualy a good performance.

Yes it's bloody annoying, and I'm as oissed off just as much as anyone, and I'm a big moaner about these loss of points, but booing is just hidious.

06/02/10

jam1 says...

Again for some reason we sat back and defended for the last 10 minutes of the match, hanging on for dear life. Why is it we only play this way towards the end of matches? The greatest defence in the world cant hang on for that long under constant pressure! The annoying thing is i new it was going to happen. 1-1 not a terrible result, but I'm so **** off with the manner of it! Also why the substitution??

06/02/10

Wonder Strike says...

Disappointing game. I thought I'd see a good game of football between 2 good teams. All I saw was Charlton playing spoiling tactics and dragging us down to their level. I guess it worked. We need to beat teams like this.

06/02/10

vikingred says...

Shame that Pericard was unavailable today cos it seems that Charlie had an off day and I think our lack of depth in the squad may cost us over the coming weeks. Not that the main eleven are doing anything other than giving 100%, they are fantastic, but playing every game and not being able to rotate a bit could see a few players getting burnt out. Let's hope for a few good quality loan signings in the next week or so, just to give this squad a boost for the final third of the season.

06/02/10

woolster0 says...

just back from the game and gutted, we out played charlton, got the goal then the alarm bells started to ring, as soon as we scored we lost all shape let them back in, gutted

06/02/10

mattytown says...

Its so exciting this season. To think we are outplaying teams like Leeds and Charlton (the big boys) brings back memories of the last time we had success. Lets hope the lads work on changing their mindset in the later stages of the games and with the class we have now, we will be fine. I would love to think we can make the play-offs at least and we CAN win them. Loads of plus points to look at!!

06/02/10

swindonmatt says...

absolultely gutted charlton have robbed us of 2 wins so pi***d off we just cant defend 4 90 mins so frustrating. we need 2 win on tue nt now and the table will look alot better. i was hoping dons and millwall would get beat now its getting tight.

06/02/10

grim reapers gone says...

to be fair once burton came on and went 4-4-2 we struggled, same as southend anyone we play who reverts back to 4-4-2 get a sniff at us.
gutted---gutted---gu
tted
why---why---why---wh
y

06/02/10

Custodian says...

Why does the management make needless substitutions that disrupt the balance of the team? Do the subs sulk if they don't get a game? From what I could see there was absolutely no need to make any changes. We were one-up not three. Charlton were rubbish.

06/02/10

mikek says...

Predicted this result before the game can't win em all. Just fancied Charlton to get something from the game but we had the game won to be honest with a superb first half hour when we should have been 2-0 up. Ferry was unlucky with a great shot in the first half and was outstanding but it was poor marking in the end that let them back in. Also we seem to panic and stop doing all the great stuff and end up giving the ball away too much and it seemed a matter of time before Charlton scored. Danny seemed very upset after the game and needs to rectify this issue as its costing us far too many points and could cost us play offs. Automatics are out now as we have not learnt from these mistakes so need to just keep playing like we did in first half hour. Greer for me was MOM he was truly outstanding.

06/02/10

grim reapers gone says...

looked at previous stats everytime amakwaah scores we go 1-0 up and finishes 1-1.
jimx or wot

06/02/10

stroudred1959 says...

Just got back from the game,utterly dejected,and not a little annoyed.Thought we had some jaded looking players out there today lack of depth begining to tell?Can't understand why Macklin was put up front,surely would have been better to move Ward up front ,use Macklins pace out wide he looks far better with the ball at his feet going forward than with his back to goal.We will have to learn how to deal with teams who come & play very negative,spoiling tactics as Charlton did today,very few teams are going to give us time&space wer'e too good to be given time &space.2 points lost gutted.

06/02/10

lambo says...

was enjoying some hospitality today at the match.

ferry m.o.m. did a speech post game and said that after the match they talked about the number of points lost with last minute goals. dw, pointed out that this season it has happened 7 times and cost us 14 points..........

still - we played well in parts, and are still unbeaten so there is plenty of positive to be had. We'll get our chances to close the gap in the next few games.

Would like to see some more atmosphere out there, the leeds match was sensational, today felt flat for a long time.

macklin looks out of his depth at the moment, and i thought would benefit from a game when we are 3-0 up and no pressure. he looked like a boy amongst men today. tuesday expect to see pericard back and a comfortable win.

06/02/10

stroudred1959 says...

lambo wrote:
was enjoying some hospitality today at the match. ferry m.o.m. did a speech post game and said that after the match they talked about the number of points lost with last minute goals. dw, pointed out that this season it has happened 7 times and cost us 14 points.......... still - we played well in parts, and are still unbeaten so there is plenty of positive to be had. We'll get our chances to close the gap in the next few games. Would like to see some more atmosphere out there, the leeds match was sensational, today felt flat for a long time. macklin looks out of his depth at the moment, and i thought would benefit from a game when we are 3-0 up and no pressure. he looked like a boy amongst men today. tuesday expect to see pericard back and a comfortable win.
We should see what we are made of Tuesday night the old town would have played cr*p 7lost don't think this set of lads will though.For what its worth I think we will win 2-0 but as I have to work Tuesday won't be able to go,do it reds

06/02/10

bradley red 1 says...

very frustrating! why he brought macklin on i will never know,charlie and billy were not in the game much today for me easton should have come on and filled the midfield,lack of quality in the squad and new loans needed asap,if this team could learn to see games out we would be top two no doubt! charlton were poor and deserved nothing,points lost and lets hope we get back to winning ways on tuesday.

06/02/10

bradley red 1 says...

did wilson really need to change things with macklin on for austin??

06/02/10

Bondy54 says...

Yes very disappointed conceding yet another late goal but could see it coming. We began to panic at the back again towards the end. Re the booing after the game. I do not think that it was aimed at the players but the officials. The Charlton players all game were trying to slow the tempo down by just falling down & pretending to be injured when there was not a Town player near them. The officials appeared to just let them get away with it. To be honest I thought they were not a very good side at all & they're support for a team near the top of the league was pathetic. I can see them start to slip. My immediate worry for the Town is that they have got a very strong st eleven but not a great deal on the bench as proved when we brought on Macklin. He is either not ready or not god enough. We need good quality back up or if we gt a few injuries or suspensions we could be in trouble.

06/02/10

P*ssed Off says...

If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!

06/02/10

Davidsyrett says...

What dissapointed me the most today was the reaction of a section of the crowd that booed at the end, what a disgrace.It was embarressing to class these so called supporters as Swindon Fans. Having posted earlier in the day about attendance levels I have now changed my mind. Instead of the mineless part time morans increasing are gates, stay at home. Lets just have the hard core 6500 fans who can get behind the team. Of course it was dissapointing to lose a late goal, but lets get a reality check, this is Charlton, 3rd in the league, Swindon played very well at times, and failed to kill of the game, we tend to defend far to deep for the last 15mins instead of trying to kill of the game, but believe in DW. He may not be perfect but he has produced a very good team here, on the brink of the play-offs. he cant be that bad. Roll on Oldham when we will be back to 6000 gate and the rear fans.

06/02/10

swindontown says...

thought we played ok, they shut us down well, not enough movement off the ball for me, we could have been more organised. some people are over reacting... again!

I personally thought the booing at the end was for the ref??? could be wrong tho...

06/02/10

old town robin says...

bradley red 1 wrote:
very frustrating! why he brought macklin on i will never know,charlie and billy were not in the game much today for me easton should have come on and filled the midfield,lack of quality in the squad and new loans needed asap,if this team could learn to see games out we would be top two no doubt! charlton were poor and deserved nothing,points lost and lets hope we get back to winning ways on tuesday.
good account of the game today, in fact I agree with everybodies comments today. Greer and Cuthbert were immense, Charlie tried hard but was subjected to some uncompromising attention from their defenders and was given no protection from a poor ref who seemed to take no notice of their cheating tatics. Billy was well below his norm and I would go as far to say his failure to try to win the ball in their half lead to them getting the ball forward to score their goal. Jon Douglas looked knackered in the last 20 minutes. None of this is critical of the guys, under the circumstances the performance was quite good but unfortunately we continue to drop points in the last 5 minutes and it has to be asked Why! Charlton had 5 minutes before half time and again in injury time, for the rest of the time all the football came form us.it's plain to see the squad is very tired and too small to rotate.We don't have the quality in depth to rest the tired legs and unless Danny brings in 3 loanees and Pericard, Sheenon and O'brien can return soon, we could be facing some very diificult games in the next few weeks.

06/02/10

therock4u says...

I bet Danny was'nt too impressed either. If Macklin had scored he would have a hero.He made his choice of sub and it's not worked today on another day, well who knows. Trouble is it's always too easy to look back and say he should have done this or that,but he dosen't have a crystal ball,and he is not on the pitch,so the players must take the blame. Must look for a psyco. Have to agree another 2 points lost.They have a chance on tuesday to put things right.

06/02/10

therock4u says...

Forgot to mention, where did 5+ mins extra come from?? Sorry had to miss the game today.

06/02/10

old town robin says...

therock4u wrote:
Forgot to mention, where did 5+ mins extra come from?? Sorry had to miss the game today.
Charlton cheats throwing themselves on the ground even when they were no where near swindon players. Referee was very weakand just let them get away with it.

06/02/10

Orrible Cnut says...

therock4u wrote:
Forgot to mention, where did 5+ mins extra come from?? Sorry had to miss the game today.
A clash of heads bewtween Greer and there striker plus the goalkeeper went down for a couple of mins with a fake hand injury , so Iwas not surprised to see 5 mins go up. What was annoying was the way we turned into a pub team for the last 10 instead of just carrying on playing as we had done for the previous 80

06/02/10

Bassett Robin says...

P*ssed Off wrote:
If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!
I'd have to dissagree that Macklin is the worst player in the squad because that honour would have to go to Leschinel, who is without doubt abysmal & amongst the worst defenders i've ever seen in the proffesional game.

The lack of quality on the bench is so evident with the likes of Macklin & Marshall & the players who are playing very game are now suffering from fatique.

We need 3 players in as loan signings asap.

The tactics of Charlton were dreadful & the performance of the referee was atrocious.

Onwards & upwards now to 3 points on Tuesday night for the Reds.

06/02/10

stroudred1959 says...

Don't know what anyone else thinks but Charlton were much like Millwall going down as if shot at the least little touch,and sometimes even when they weren't touched aka thier goalie,some of thier challenges were well out of order.For saying that I really thought we only played well in short spells albeit that Charlton came to stiffle,and fraustrate.Think the criticism of Macklin is harsh,I'd like to see him play a couple of full games on the wing reckon he'd be a different proposition then.Don't understand why Ward wasn't moved up front to put Macklin on the left wing,thought Ward only showed glimpses of his recent form on the left today,and he's a bonafise striker whereas Macklin isn't.

06/02/10

avo says...

Must admit to not hearing the booing at the end? utterly disgraceful imho and f**k em.

as to the game, charlton came and did a job on us and hit us with the sucker punch right at the death, they are probably jubilant tonight and rightly so, because how the hell they manged to steal a point from us, god only knows?

Nothing to fear in this league though, and we continue to march on towards promotion, in wilson we trust, this club is only going in one direction, that is obvious to all that watch the team week in week out.

06/02/10

woolster0 says...

avo wrote:
oh and to be totally honest, if that f-ing dog keeps barking much longer, i am going to go round there and rip its f-ing head off, and shove it down its owners throat.
lol, explain

06/02/10

umpcah says...

woolster0 wrote:
avo wrote: oh and to be totally honest, if that f-ing dog keeps barking much longer, i am going to go round there and rip its f-ing head off, and shove it down its owners throat.
lol, explain
Leave my little Fido alone !

06/02/10

London Red says...

I don't get the attitude you can not boo at the end of the game. Why not?

If the team play well they get a cheered and clapped off

So if they don't play well, or in the case of today fans were frustrated and angry - what else can you do?

The players will know it was a frustration boo - which was picked up by the long debrief - the talk about 14 lost points via late goals etc.

As for the game - Charlton were like a team fighting relegation looking for a "bonus" point at a top team - came here simply to to disrupt us and stop us playing - and too be fair to them it worked because after 30 mins we simply stopped playing.

The criticism of subs and Macklin is over the top as well.

Sub - it was designed to change things about as we needed it as Charlton had come back into it - the idea was to get pace in the side and have us run with the ball into the channels and eat up time. Not just keep hoofing it back to them to start again - whioch is what happened.

Macklin - OK didn't work the way it should but lets not forget he is only 17 - he is a kid so slating him will not do him any good.

What we really needed was O'Brien as he is more experienced and probably would have done what Wilson was trying - obviously not fit.

We need our loanees DW wants as we are too short of players. But lets remember we were cack last year so to have 13/14 good players is a great turn around - and we must accept it will take time to get that up to the 20 odd we need.

With less deadwood needed to go in the summer DW knows adding 4 or 5 like we did this year will just boost us to the desired number - plus the fact we have been so good this year means more quality players will want to sign for us too.

Anyway - heres to 3 points on Tuesday as Aljofree is in defense so they will poor.

06/02/10

SAPFanSTFC says...

Then stay away London Red, you aren't wanted....we did NOT play badly we got sucker punched at the end again.
I'm in full agreement with Dave Syrett here, booing is for a team who don't try and play badly!!
In the past it has been, why did we defend so much..moan moan moan we should have gone for the killer goal....moan moan moan - Well today he put a bit of pace on to keep them busy at the back and we got caught!
Would you rather that we had scored 7 times in the last 5 minutes to draw, or they score 7 times in the last minute to claw a draw of us!? Last year we would be losing all of these in the last 5 mins!!
Come on negative Town fans, we are in 6th SIXTH with GAMES IN HAND!!!
Get behind the team and slap the next person to boo the team off after a performance like today's!!
Come on You Reds...and yes I was gutted again today and last week when I sat ion the train home from Southend and at all the other late draws....BUT!!...6th and Play-Offs beckon!!

06/02/10

stroudred1959 says...

London Red wrote:
I don't get the attitude you can not boo at the end of the game. Why not? If the team play well they get a cheered and clapped off So if they don't play well, or in the case of today fans were frustrated and angry - what else can you do? The players will know it was a frustration boo - which was picked up by the long debrief - the talk about 14 lost points via late goals etc. As for the game - Charlton were like a team fighting relegation looking for a "bonus" point at a top team - came here simply to to disrupt us and stop us playing - and too be fair to them it worked because after 30 mins we simply stopped playing. The criticism of subs and Macklin is over the top as well. Sub - it was designed to change things about as we needed it as Charlton had come back into it - the idea was to get pace in the side and have us run with the ball into the channels and eat up time. Not just keep hoofing it back to them to start again - whioch is what happened. Macklin - OK didn't work the way it should but lets not forget he is only 17 - he is a kid so slating him will not do him any good. What we really needed was O'Brien as he is more experienced and probably would have done what Wilson was trying - obviously not fit. We need our loanees DW wants as we are too short of players. But lets remember we were cack last year so to have 13/14 good players is a great turn around - and we must accept it will take time to get that up to the 20 odd we need. With less deadwood needed to go in the summer DW knows adding 4 or 5 like we did this year will just boost us to the desired number - plus the fact we have been so good this year means more quality players will want to sign for us too. Anyway - heres to 3 points on Tuesday as Aljofree is in defense so they will poor.
Good post sums up the afternoon perfectly,although I didnt think we deserved to be booed off.Fraustrating ,but we weren't that bad.

06/02/10

yeti says...

P*ssed Off wrote:
If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!
well done.slate a young lad trying to make his mark in the game.
tw@
he's a kid fresh out of the youth team.give him a break you cretin

07/02/10

TownEnd D.Romain says...

? after we went 1 up...
After we scored we were shocking

07/02/10

avo says...

no matter how angry you feel, you should never boo your team.

what do you hope to achieve?

dont bother answering-its a losing argument.

07/02/10

NORRO says...

Millwall 2 - 1 Naaaaarwich.

Enuf said, see you lot at The Den on the 8th May !

07/02/10

swindon30 says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Then stay away London Red, you aren't wanted....we did NOT play badly we got sucker punched at the end again.
I'm in full agreement with Dave Syrett here, booing is for a team who don't try and play badly!!
In the past it has been, why did we defend so much..moan moan moan we should have gone for the killer goal....moan moan moan - Well today he put a bit of pace on to keep them busy at the back and we got caught!
Would you rather that we had scored 7 times in the last 5 minutes to draw, or they score 7 times in the last minute to claw a draw of us!? Last year we would be losing all of these in the last 5 mins!!
Come on negative Town fans, we are in 6th SIXTH with GAMES IN HAND!!!
Get behind the team and slap the next person to boo the team off after a performance like today's!!
Come on You Reds...and yes I was gutted again today and last week when I sat ion the train home from Southend and at all the other late draws....BUT!!...6th and Play-Offs beckon!!
Well said. I posted early on the booing, totaly out of order. If we had played really badly on the day( which we didn't) and going a serious bad patch (which we are not) then you could sort of understand it.

07/02/10

swindon30 says...

yeti wrote:
P*ssed Off wrote:
If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!
well done.slate a young lad trying to make his mark in the game.
tw@
he's a kid fresh out of the youth team.give him a break you cretin
Yeti, am I going to get a sorry from you for your remarks about me lying about smith being given a contract?? Last weekend well before it was released in the press??

07/02/10

Stratton Red says...

Can't believe some posts on here. We played really well and in the first half we took them apart. Some of the moves were sintilating. The booing was ridiculous. DW has to some how shake the Malpas last 5 minute voodoo that is still on our club. He's got to drill it into the team that it's a 95 minute game these days and the last 10 is all about absolute concentration. Was a little surprised by the sub. Like a few other posters we were speculating that DW would bring on O'Brien or Macklin on the wing and put Ward up front. I do think DWs tinkering does at times not help. JPM MotM for me...

07/02/10

ciclosporindorset says...

Bringing on O-Brien would effectively mean 2 positional changes so I can understand why he would bring on Macklin. He will also want to save CA's legs - he is still developing physically to the league game. OK - so maybe it didnt work - the alternative is CA gets burnt out prematurely or we reshuffle lots of positions and loose more shape still.

07/02/10

SAPFanSTFC says...

Lets take emotion out of this for a moment as I'm sure the players and all at the club are just as gutted as any of us...in fact I'm sure more so as it is their proffession and future.
On more of a discussion basis, if you look at when we score and concede could it be that they are responding to when we score goals and getting desperate in the last few minutes?
At least it is THEM scoring last minute goals to DRAW!? :-)
Below is a list of
Minutes Played range then Goals scored (% of total goals scored) then Goals conceded (% of total goals conceded)
0 - 9 4gls (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%)
10 - 19 6 (12.5%) v 3 (8.3%)
20 - 29 4 (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%)
30 - 39 5 (10.4%) v 6 (16.7%)
40 - 49 4 (8.3%) v 0 (0.0%)
50 - 59 7 (14.6%) v 2 (5.6%)
60 - 69 4 (8.3%) v 1 (2.8%)
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70 - 79 8 (16.7%) v 3 (8.3%)
80 - 89 4 (8.3%) v 10 (27.8%)
90 - 99 2 (4.2%) v 5 (13.9%)

50% of the goals scored against us have come in the last 20 minutes + injury time...
....thought as to why?

07/02/10

M.Dobbo says...

There has to be a question mark about the coaching tactics within the club. Wilson and his henchman need to install some mental strength into the defence or they will continue to let in late goals. STFC has now got the reputation of not being able to last 90mins.(see Charlton's manager Phil Parkinson comments about our defence) Assessing players, Jean-Francois and Ward had bad games along with Austin but on the positive side Ferry was the MOM, utter class.
A defeat against Oldham on Tuesday and we can forget about play-off's, as for automatic prom, no way Jose.

07/02/10

burley01rs says...

If there was any booing I thought it was directed at the Charlton team who are poor excuses for sportsmen. And maybe booing the ref who was in the wrong on numerous occasions

07/02/10

swindon30 says...

burley01rs wrote:
If there was any booing I thought it was directed at the Charlton team who are poor excuses for sportsmen. And maybe booing the ref who was in the wrong on numerous occasions
Not from where I was sat

07/02/10

STFC-Steve says...

M.Dobbo wrote:
There has to be a question mark about the coaching tactics within the club. Wilson and his henchman need to install some mental strength into the defence or they will continue to let in late goals. STFC has now got the reputation of not being able to last 90mins.(see Charlton's manager Phil Parkinson comments about our defence) Assessing players, Jean-Francois and Ward had bad games along with Austin but on the positive side Ferry was the MOM, utter class.
A defeat against Oldham on Tuesday and we can forget about play-off's, as for automatic prom, no way Jose.
Wow, are you for real? 'Forget about the play-offs if we lose to Oldham!? That has to be one of the most idiotic posts I've read on here.

07/02/10

Redhouse Red says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Lets take emotion out of this for a moment as I'm sure the players and all at the club are just as gutted as any of us...in fact I'm sure more so as it is their proffession and future. On more of a discussion basis, if you look at when we score and concede could it be that they are responding to when we score goals and getting desperate in the last few minutes? At least it is THEM scoring last minute goals to DRAW!? :-) Below is a list of Minutes Played range then Goals scored (% of total goals scored) then Goals conceded (% of total goals conceded) 0 - 9 4gls (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 10 - 19 6 (12.5%) v 3 (8.3%) 20 - 29 4 (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 30 - 39 5 (10.4%) v 6 (16.7%) 40 - 49 4 (8.3%) v 0 (0.0%) 50 - 59 7 (14.6%) v 2 (5.6%) 60 - 69 4 (8.3%) v 1 (2.8%) -------------------- ------------------- 70 - 79 8 (16.7%) v 3 (8.3%) 80 - 89 4 (8.3%) v 10 (27.8%) 90 - 99 2 (4.2%) v 5 (13.9%) 50% of the goals scored against us have come in the last 20 minutes + injury time... ....thought as to why?
I love it.

Stat-o, stat-o!!!!! (For those who remember fantasy football).

Putting the emotion back in. Steve Claridge says we are having a "fantastic season". So I'm happy!!!

07/02/10

Penhill54 says...

What happened to the Ready to Go song from Republica before the teams came out,?????? Could this have had a psycological effect on the players who did not seem as focussed as normal.....

07/02/10

Another view says...

Lot of doom and gloom on here. I was generally happy with our performance apart from the last 10 minutes. Remember the 3rd-placed team came here to play for a draw right from the start. It's not easy to play against a totally negative team. Maybe that's why their fans didn't bother turning up.

If I have to criticise DW then maybe he should be making a subsitution to counteract the late collapses.

Despite his goals I still think Billy is a support player, which is why Coxy and Charlie have prospered with him. If Danny Ward was given more freedom to move in from the wings then he could pick up a lot of assists from Billy.

Maybe it's slow, but we are progressing.

07/02/10

Tosh Man says...

As always it's normally the style of how you end up with the points as to how the fans are feeling. Had we snuck a last minute equalizer it would feel very different. All in all, Leeds and charlton at home with Southend sandwiched in between - 5 from those 9 points isn't too shabby. Let's not forget the size of 2 of those clubs - they shouldn't even be in the same league as us if we're all honest. We're not going up automatically and with our squad size I don't think we'll go up via the play-offs, I think we'll make the playoff positions but to win those 3 games might be a bit too much to ask but who knows - we might be in a rich vein of form at the time. talking of which it's funny that if you look at the season's results it's hard to see when we're in or out of form - we're pretty consistant - it could well be that we haven't even hit anything like form yet - equally we may have and it could be all down hill from here! Either way, taking the last few years into account it's been pretty good and whatever happens we're on the right track at long last - still need a deeper squad but it's been an enjoyable season with "hope" which has been lacking for ages - everyone should remember how it's been the last few years and just enjoy

07/02/10

Tosh Man says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Lets take emotion out of this for a moment as I'm sure the players and all at the club are just as gutted as any of us...in fact I'm sure more so as it is their proffession and future. On more of a discussion basis, if you look at when we score and concede could it be that they are responding to when we score goals and getting desperate in the last few minutes? At least it is THEM scoring last minute goals to DRAW!? :-) Below is a list of Minutes Played range then Goals scored (% of total goals scored) then Goals conceded (% of total goals conceded) 0 - 9 4gls (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 10 - 19 6 (12.5%) v 3 (8.3%) 20 - 29 4 (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 30 - 39 5 (10.4%) v 6 (16.7%) 40 - 49 4 (8.3%) v 0 (0.0%) 50 - 59 7 (14.6%) v 2 (5.6%) 60 - 69 4 (8.3%) v 1 (2.8%) -------------------- ------------------- 70 - 79 8 (16.7%) v 3 (8.3%) 80 - 89 4 (8.3%) v 10 (27.8%) 90 - 99 2 (4.2%) v 5 (13.9%) 50% of the goals scored against us have come in the last 20 minutes + injury time... ....thought as to why?
I think the attitude of a loss has changed in recent times. I think sides would rather lose 2 or 3 nil now than 1-0 so they are prepared to throw everything at getting a draw. Like you say we haven't conceeded many late losing goals.

07/02/10

grim reapers gone says...

before austin was called into the squad i strongly believed wilson was an inept manager whos tactics was poor, has he got the last two games wrong once again? sounds like it from previous post, but at least i am enjoying the football post austin again even if he throws games with subs, we did not look like conceeding against charlton/southend untill he took charlie off, yes he might have been tired , hey but they all were, not moaning just frustrated the post above shows passion to the team. its not ment as nasty but we live and die for our great club, and this has an effect on our whole week or weekend, lets keep flying the flag on tuesday.im sure we can hammer oldham if we give 95 mins of concentraction.

07/02/10

ciclosporindorset says...

With Sheehan, O'Brien and Pericard to come back - we wil have more fresh legs. I believe that Morrison will still play a good part in our season - and Macklin if played out right will develop into a competitive option as the season unfolds - we are looking good. We are averaging 2 points a game consistently since the first dozen games. This is likely to continue in my view and see us in the play offs. Then its anyones to be fair. Expect some defeats and draws - but there are only 8 teams going to be in contention for play offs and we are one of them.

07/02/10

Another view says...

Anybody who was at yesterday's game will not be surprised to see how Charlton got their point in mid-week. This clip shows their player starting his dive to win the penalty beofre he is tackled! Most players try to con the ref very occassionaly with a dive, but Charlton seem to make it part of their game.

http://news.bbc.co.u
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07/02/10

robins69 says...

I watching Caddis on sky sports at moment, gave foul away for pen. Can't see him coming when loan window opens tomorrow.

07/02/10

wiki27 says...

Am as upset as anyoneon this board having conceded in the last minute y again. I really believe we need some professional pschycological help to ensure players keep playing for the full 90 minutes. Its amazing to watch how we dominate for 80 minutes and literally fall apart for the last 10-15 mins. There are loads of sports pshyologists about who can help. DW - please take a shot at this. You have nothing to lose - except points and games that is.

07/02/10

zippy1722 says...

i am annoyed at the last min goal yesterday mainly because it is a lesson the team hasnt learnt yet. it isnt just one game, 2 in 2 and charlton away, them 4 seprate 1-1 draws against wycombe,millwall at home and exeter away. so many dropped points this season, we could have pushed up the table with a win today 5 points behind chalrtlon with 3 games in hand but now auto promotion looks too far for us now.i know one game doesnt change alot but everyone else above dropped points and cant see them dropping many more points for us to catch them. we are having a good season so cant complain but i am sure i am not the only fan yesterday who saw the goal coming.maybe instead of taking charlie off every game, maybe take the left back off in last 10? the frog has played well lately but maybe loses discipline in the last few minutes. macklin did nothing to hold the ball up and to behonest he doesnt look a good player.he may be fast and young but i cant see him being a pro for anyother club.not that he was to blame but once we took charlie off, we had nobody to control the game up top.outside the first 11 we dont have much depth except perricard and sheean.i will still settle for play offs but it could have been much more if you look at the dropped points.maybe we need 3 goals to see a game out?

07/02/10

Mondeaux says...

I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci.
OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland.
He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in).

To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys."

I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team.

He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces.

Am I alone in thinking this way????

07/02/10

the_gloves says...

Mondeaux wrote:
I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci. OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland. He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in). To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys." I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team. He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces. Am I alone in thinking this way????
No, I'm with you on that. He's frustrating to watch and does make mistakes but he's got a fantastic cross on him and a solid tackle. I think his weakness' are poor concentration and more than any player i,ve ever seen is effected by cionfidence. He can be in a game for and playing really well and then he'll take his eye off the ball and get skinned or loose his man. More often than not this leads to a chance. Thats when his head drops and his game can fall apart. You'll often see Gordon or Lucas go and put an arm around him to get his confidence back. These probs are psychological and can prob be ironed out. Sheenan is my first choice left back but Lecs can do a job. I fear he is going much the way of Smith in that no matter how well he plays some fans will get on his back at the first opportunity.

07/02/10

TenerifeRed says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Lets take emotion out of this for a moment as I'm sure the players and all at the club are just as gutted as any of us...in fact I'm sure more so as it is their proffession and future. On more of a discussion basis, if you look at when we score and concede could it be that they are responding to when we score goals and getting desperate in the last few minutes? At least it is THEM scoring last minute goals to DRAW!? :-) Below is a list of Minutes Played range then Goals scored (% of total goals scored) then Goals conceded (% of total goals conceded) 0 - 9 4gls (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 10 - 19 6 (12.5%) v 3 (8.3%) 20 - 29 4 (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 30 - 39 5 (10.4%) v 6 (16.7%) 40 - 49 4 (8.3%) v 0 (0.0%) 50 - 59 7 (14.6%) v 2 (5.6%) 60 - 69 4 (8.3%) v 1 (2.8%) -------------------- ------------------- 70 - 79 8 (16.7%) v 3 (8.3%) 80 - 89 4 (8.3%) v 10 (27.8%) 90 - 99 2 (4.2%) v 5 (13.9%) 50% of the goals scored against us have come in the last 20 minutes + injury time... ....thought as to why?
We're scoring over 85% of our goals in the first 80 minutes and then trying to defend the lead for the last 10. We're sitting back and letting the other teams come at us and the defence has tired legs and is getting out of shape/panicing. 10 minutes is a long time to try to defend a lead.
The best form of defence is attack, right to the end.

07/02/10

Oi Den! says...

We need to get away from the idea that some teams are better than us because they represent bigger clubs. Leeds, Charlton and Norwich are where they deserve to be - just like us. We have proved we are as good as anyone by beating Leeds easily and having Charlton on the ropes twice. Many people were writing these games off before a ball was kicked. It is still not too late to mount a challenge to the top two. But we need belief - and belief that we could win was the ingredient missing from the last two games. It seems to me that this is more of a problem than fatigue, lack of concentration etc.

07/02/10

Mondeaux says...

Zippy,

Because someone speaks French, that doesn't make them a Frog. (To which, millions of Canadians, Haitians, Vietnamese & West Africans will testify). Lots of French men also.

Lesci is Haitian, Haiti is in the Caribbean not Western Europe.

07/02/10

Bondy54 says...

You cannot knock Lechs for his play. He has been going through a really tough time but always gives Swindon 100%. As I said yesterday I am worried that our bench is not very strong. Yes I would have brought on Easton instead of Macklin to sure up the midfield. Luckily enough there is is not much damage & Danny has said that he will now bring in loan signings to cover all the games we have left in one of the papers. Come on Lads & Lasses lets go out there Tuesday night & raise the roof & get behind Gorden & the boys We need to win. We are the twelve man or woman.

07/02/10

stroudred1959 says...

The reason for late goals is much less complicated than some might think.Tired players make mistakes,it's as simple as that,and the only solution is to rest players.The general shortage of quality replacements means key players can't be rested hence mistakes late on in games occur.At the risk of iritating some posters Tuesdays game should see Charlie or Billy rested Pericard to play if fit,Macklin to start rest JPM,Morrison to replace Greer who should be restedWard rested O'brian or Marshall to deputise,we should still have enough to see Oldham off.I'll wait for the inevitable flack!

07/02/10

avo says...

Mondeaux wrote:
I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci. OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland. He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in). To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys." I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team. He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces. Am I alone in thinking this way????
you are not alone at all.

Lesc does not get the credit he deserves.

'viva lescinel, viva lescinel, flying down the wing, here the swindon sing, viva lescinel'

I was on my own with that song yesterday but i am persisting with it anyway lol....

07/02/10

Bondy54 says...

Sorry to interupt but has anybody seen or heard from Who Am I ? Has he emigrated to Chelski ????

07/02/10

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

avo wrote:
Mondeaux wrote: I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci. OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland. He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in). To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys." I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team. He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces. Am I alone in thinking this way????
you are not alone at all. Lesc does not get the credit he deserves. 'viva lescinel, viva lescinel, flying down the wing, here the swindon sing, viva lescinel' I was on my own with that song yesterday but i am persisting with it anyway lol....
Agree avo.

Getting on Lec's back.
Having a go at Macklin.
Booing at the end.

We are 6th in the league and playing the best football in years. The Club is once again moving forward.

What is wrong with some of our Supporters. Get behind the lads.

.....and avo change your season ticket next season and join the South Oxfordshire Reds are welcome.

Under the flag a no boo zone.

07/02/10

grim reapers gone says...

Bondy54 wrote:
You cannot knock Lechs for his play. He has been going through a really tough time but always gives Swindon 100%. As I said yesterday I am worried that our bench is not very strong. Yes I would have brought on Easton instead of Macklin to sure up the midfield. Luckily enough there is is not much damage & Danny has said that he will now bring in loan signings to cover all the games we have left in one of the papers. Come on Lads & Lasses lets go out there Tuesday night & raise the roof & get behind Gorden & the boys We need to win. We are the twelve man or woman.
lesc has been great to what we had in smith,
yeah i will behind them for our much needed 3 points

07/02/10

Keep Fitt says...

I reckon we must have the worst record in the football league for shipping in late goals. In fact I'd say it's likely that we've got the worst record in any league in the world..... ever!!!

Having said that, we we're the better team yesterday no doubt. That's twice we should have beat Charlton. Maybe it'll be 3rd time lucky in the play-offs?

07/02/10

Mondeaux says...

Avo,
Is that to the tune of:-

"Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen,
Robin Hood, Robin Hood, with his band of men.
Feared by the bad, loved by the good,
Robin Hood, Robin Hood, Robin Hood."
"He came to Sherwood Forest, with a sausage in his hand. . . . etc, etc.

07/02/10

umpcah says...

Keep Fitt wrote:
I reckon we must have the worst record in the football league for shipping in late goals. In fact I'd say it's likely that we've got the worst record in any league in the world..... ever!!! Having said that, we we're the better team yesterday no doubt. That's twice we should have beat Charlton. Maybe it'll be 3rd time lucky in the play-offs?
Worst record ? Would you care to get a few facts to back up that suggestion. We are all fed up by late goals against this season but if one reads the Sunday/Monday footie reports late goals are scored all over the UK and not just against Swindon. Reason ? Teams who are losing throw everything forward in the last ten minutes knowing that tired defenders are likely to make mistakes. If they get caught out by a counter blow they`re no worse off !

07/02/10

shaner,bournemouth says...

swindon30 wrote:
yeti wrote:
P*ssed Off wrote: If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!
well done.slate a young lad trying to make his mark in the game. tw@ he's a kid fresh out of the youth team.give him a break you cretin
Yeti, am I going to get a sorry from you for your remarks about me lying about smith being given a contract?? Last weekend well before it was released in the press??
Don't be silly.Yeti abused me on here a while back when i stated a fact about Fraser Digby.I was clearly right and he didn't know the facts,and because he didn't know,he thought he was right,just like last week when he said no players have been offered new contracts.

07/02/10

swindon30 says...

No I know. He is very quiet now though isn't he!! Grow some **** and admit you were wrong and say sorry yeti

07/02/10

London Red says...

SAP - just had a chance to come on a reply - sorry its about 30 comments later - However:

1) If you read my post I never said I was booing - yet you have a go at me for it. All I said was I have no problem with people expressing themselves - as there are only two ways you can really show it at the end - cheer or boo!

I do agree Booing a single player is wrong as that will really effect them - but the team as a whole is fine as it is an expression of emotion.

Also why do some people feel it is fine to boo sometimes - but just not on Sat?

2) I'm actually an owner of the club - so its a bit rich telling me I'm not welcome at MY OWN club!

3) I'm disgusted at the attitude of some that fans are not welcome and should stay away - with out fans there is no STFC - simple as that!

If you boo you are not welcome - is similar to people who moan about fans turning up at Big games only and saying they should stay away - we should never want people to stay away as they will help us move forward.

We should be encouraging as many as possible as we need gates of 8,000+ to get out of this league and 10,000+ if we are to stay up.

Listen to Wray and Fitton - the prices have be set to see how many will come so they can budget around that - with people like you telling people not to come back our budget will be for the likes of Casal and not Douglas!

07/02/10

SAPFanSTFC says...

Mondeaux wrote:
I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci. OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland. He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in). To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys." I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team. He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces. Am I alone in thinking this way????
Totally agree Mondy, at the start of the season DW said he is still learning and will make mistakes.....but hell, he is more of a benefit than a being a hinderance. He has his bad moments but he has been solid in so many games.
Saturday he was up and down the line every 2 minutes, he made some great tackles but got caught up the pitch on a break in the last few minutes.....keep him back is the answer, but then DW gets nobbled for sitting back and defending!?
No win situation eh!!

07/02/10

SAPFanSTFC says...

Hi London Red, I had originally worded it in the 3rd person so wasn't attacking you personally, but after reading the rest of your less than supportive words I find it incredulous that you are part of the ownership team!?
IYou would condone fans booing a team who have worked their socks off like yesterday?.. you should be ashamed of yourself. There are more than two ways of demonsrating your feelings, one would be to leave early....oh no!! As we were winning they were all really happy until 2 minutes into an extended injury time, another is to walk out without comment or clapping....as did many of the fans!! I chose to stay and clap the guys off the pitch although I was just as gutted as anoyone else....but look into the players eyes and they were devastated!!
Don't you dare preach to a life long supporter who welcomes ANYONE into our ground, but if you condone booing at a team who play their hearts out then I would suggest you reconsider your loyalties!!
As a managing consultant I expect commitment to a cause and as a response for good results you get a reward, but equally I would coach mistakes not start slating members of my team for being human and making mistakes.....althoug
h these late goals would seem to need a bit of HR!? :-0....it is still a young team.
I would be glad to discuss this further in the members lounge at any of the home games, so please feel free to buy a bottle of STFC Red Wine and I'll reciprocate over a mode of discussion suitable to this club's current position! :-)

08/02/10

London Red says...

SAP - I'm not on the board so you can rest easily!

I'm just a fan who happened to want to show AF and Co how thankful I was of them saving us and put my hard earned cash in as capital on the recent share issue.

Your views seem to suggest that the team are complete morans and would not understand the difference between being booed out of anger and frustration than to a poor performance!

The feeling in the crowd where I was they are going to equalise you can feel and see it - so when it did come in the 93rd just before the whistle - people where just letting out emotion - the same as if you wrote aaaaarrrgh! on a message board. players can read them too!

I am certain if any player was asked they would simply say we share their frustration and understand the reaction on Sat - i.e. not a dig at the performance.

OK there are few idiots on here who slate the team and management week in week out - but most like myself are delighted by the effort they put in and the results they have delivered to date.

However, idiots or not, booing or not, I would never say you are not welcome as all are needed as much as everyone else to make STFC the success we all want.

08/02/10

SAPFanSTFC says...

London Red wrote:
SAP - I'm not on the board so you can rest easily! I'm just a fan who happened to want to show AF and Co how thankful I was of them saving us and put my hard earned cash in as capital on the recent share issue. Your views seem to suggest that the team are complete morans and would not understand the difference between being booed out of anger and frustration than to a poor performance! The feeling in the crowd where I was they are going to equalise you can feel and see it - so when it did come in the 93rd just before the whistle - people where just letting out emotion - the same as if you wrote aaaaarrrgh! on a message board. players can read them too! I am certain if any player was asked they would simply say we share their frustration and understand the reaction on Sat - i.e. not a dig at the performance. OK there are few idiots on here who slate the team and management week in week out - but most like myself are delighted by the effort they put in and the results they have delivered to date. However, idiots or not, booing or not, I would never say you are not welcome as all are needed as much as everyone else to make STFC the success we all want.
I think we will have to agree to differ here....how my message denotes I think the players are morons!!??... you really do take the biscuit and really need to get a brainscan!!...you say "Booing is the same as shouting or typing Aaarrggghhh"!!?? I DID shout Aaaarrrgghhh on Saturday as a sign of frustration, but would not have dreamt of booing the team after Saturday's performance!! Booing that performance when we are in 6th place is a sign of someone who doesn't understand or who can't communicate in English.
Get behind the team and don't clap if you are annoyed, DON'T boo the team until the players don't try!!
You should be ASHAMED London Red

08/02/10

Davidsyrett says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
London Red wrote: SAP - I'm not on the board so you can rest easily! I'm just a fan who happened to want to show AF and Co how thankful I was of them saving us and put my hard earned cash in as capital on the recent share issue. Your views seem to suggest that the team are complete morans and would not understand the difference between being booed out of anger and frustration than to a poor performance! The feeling in the crowd where I was they are going to equalise you can feel and see it - so when it did come in the 93rd just before the whistle - people where just letting out emotion - the same as if you wrote aaaaarrrgh! on a message board. players can read them too! I am certain if any player was asked they would simply say we share their frustration and understand the reaction on Sat - i.e. not a dig at the performance. OK there are few idiots on here who slate the team and management week in week out - but most like myself are delighted by the effort they put in and the results they have delivered to date. However, idiots or not, booing or not, I would never say you are not welcome as all are needed as much as everyone else to make STFC the success we all want.
I think we will have to agree to differ here....how my message denotes I think the players are morons!!??... you really do take the biscuit and really need to get a brainscan!!...you say "Booing is the same as shouting or typing Aaarrggghhh"!!?? I DID shout Aaaarrrgghhh on Saturday as a sign of frustration, but would not have dreamt of booing the team after Saturday's performance!! Booing that performance when we are in 6th place is a sign of someone who doesn't understand or who can't communicate in English. Get behind the team and don't clap if you are annoyed, DON'T boo the team until the players don't try!! You should be ASHAMED London Red
totally agree SAP, London red is does not understand football, How do the players feel after giving 100% to be booed of the pitch. Ashamed you should be! If your unhappy leave the ground without clappin.

08/02/10

London Red says...

As I said from point one I never booed - yet should be ashamed of myself! How does that figure?

All I said is I don't believe booing is an issue - happens at all 92 league teams and probalby a lot of non league teams too.

The ironic thing here is re-reading SAP's posts he said agreed with booing if the performance is bad - which doesn't make sense to me - either you agree or disagree with booing!

08/02/10

Davidsyrett says...

Ok! think it's time to move onto a new subject, lets just get behind the lads tomorrow and hope no-one has any reason to Boo!

sw near-done: just about sums it up.

08/02/10

hertz says...

Avo , No need to take it out on the little dog , blame the owners , to really get your own back go get the dog and put it in your back garden to bark all day , then see how the owners like it :0)

08/02/10

avo says...

Mondeaux wrote:
Avo, Is that to the tune of:- "Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen, Robin Hood, Robin Hood, with his band of men. Feared by the bad, loved by the good, Robin Hood, Robin Hood, Robin Hood." "He came to Sherwood Forest, with a sausage in his hand. . . . etc, etc.
No mondeaux

its to the tune of 'viva ronaldo' sung by manure fans, (used to)

you can google it and get to hear it, i love it and it suits lesc no end.

As to the dog. Yes you are all right, take it out on the owners, so maybe some poo through their letterbox instead.

To the duke of banbry - we will be moving 'across the aisle' next season, 4 of us, but intend having our swindon flag right alongside your 'south ****** reds' one.

See, I cant even bring myself to say the word lol.....

Town end town end give us a song....

08/02/10

SAPFanSTFC says...

London Red wrote:
As I said from point one I never booed - yet should be ashamed of myself! How does that figure? All I said is I don't believe booing is an issue - happens at all 92 league teams and probalby a lot of non league teams too. The ironic thing here is re-reading SAP's posts he said agreed with booing if the performance is bad - which doesn't make sense to me - either you agree or disagree with booing!
Last comment London Red as I think the majority are, like me, against it altogether.
You should try being an interviewer as you make up your own version of events and bend it to suit as time goes by. My comment was not if the team are playing badly, it was that I understand it more when the team are making no effort, or as per other club's performances when it is the the vein of being prima donnas which shows disrespect to the club, its fans and management.
I have, like the majority of true fans always been against booing and was even more angry when fans singled out Lesci earlier in the season.
You have stated that we should welcome everyone and put up with them booing at players regardless, as you want numbers through the gate!!??....I think you should have had your money in with previous money grabbing owners and not with the current shrewd investors!!
Walk out and don't applaud if you are unhappy but don't boo and London Red....if you are a true investor....don't accuse life long STFC fans who pay for opposition fans to come to our games on a regular basis of alienting people and being a negative fcator on STFC's development!!
I am and always have been an STFC fan and will stick up for anyone, except those mindless individuals who have no place in the County Ground....which thankfully are few and far between.
I want to see people coming through the gates who, even if they are nuetral, will clap quality regardless of the result.

08/02/10

SAPFanSTFC says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Ok! think it's time to move onto a new subject, lets just get behind the lads tomorrow and hope no-one has any reason to Boo! sw near-done: just about sums it up.
Cheers DaveSyrett....and totally agree, tomorrow is a must win and can't wait....although hate the thought of a 5am start to get back to Cambridge for work the next day.

Any news on Pericard?