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Man falsely claimed £34k
A TROWBRIDGE man who falsely claimed £34,197 in Income Support and Council Tax benefit has been given a suspended jail sentence.
Roger Miller, 59, from Jenkins Street, had claimed income support and council tax benefits since 1999 following an injury at work which prevented him from working again.
He claimed for himself and his wife, Freda, on the basis that neither was working.
However an investigation revealed that Mrs Miller had been employed by Bath NHS Trust since 1995.
Mr Miller was interviewed by benefit investigation officers from the Department for Work and Pensions and West Wiltshire District Council.
He admitted making a series of benefit applications to both the DWP and the District Council on the basis that his wife was out of work.
Between December 28 2001 and March 16 2006, Miller falsely obtained £30,782.90 in income support and £3,415.08 in council tax benefits.
He pleaded guilty to four of the six charges against him and was sentenced to eight months imprisonment, suspended for 12 months, with a six month supervision order.
He was also ordered to repay the £34,197 in benefits.
Cllr Roy While, the district council's finance portfolio holder, said: "This case shows that people should be truthful in any benefit claim they make.
"The system is there to help people, but the rules are very clear and the penalties can be severe if these are ignored."
10:50am Wednesday 26th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Disgusted of, Westbury on 11:08am Wed 26 Mar 08
He should have just said he was an MP and the matter would have been forgot about or swept under the carpet.
He should have just said he was an MP and the matter would have been forgot about or swept under the carpet.
Posted by: moonrakin_wurzel, Trowbridge on 11:45am Wed 26 Mar 08
Doh - more silly sentencing from the magistrates - Bath sent a bloke to prison for less than this last year - fat chance he'll pay the money back.
Doh - more silly sentencing from the magistrates - Bath sent a bloke to prison for less than this last year - fat chance he'll pay the money back.
Posted by: Disgusted of, Westbury on 12:45pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]moonrakin_wurzel[/bold] wrote:
Doh - more silly sentencing from the magistrates - Bath sent a bloke to prison for less than this last year - fat chance he'll pay the money back.[/quote]
Why should he? Derek Conway doesn't have to pay any of the money that he scammed off the public back.
Sauce for the goose....
moonrakin_wurzel wrote:
Doh - more silly sentencing from the magistrates - Bath sent a bloke to prison for less than this last year - fat chance he'll pay the money back.
Why should he? Derek Conway doesn't have to pay any of the money that he scammed off the public back.
Sauce for the goose....
Posted by: moonrakin_wurzel, Trowbridge on 2:53pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Disgusted of[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]moonrakin_wurzel[/bold] wrote:
Doh - more silly sentencing from the magistrates - Bath sent a bloke to prison for less than this last year - fat chance he'll pay the money back.[/quote]
Why should he? Derek Conway doesn't have to pay any of the money that he scammed off the public back.
Sauce for the goose....
[/quote] I suppose my point would be they're a load of do as I say and not as I do goons.
I recall the the girl in Sunderland who was nicked for diving her Ford Escort after two pints of lager and got a custodial and the man who owns Littlecote Manor who was twice the limit in his Jag on the M4 and didn't even get disqualified.
There's a exceedingly good case for getting rid of magistrates altogether.
Disgusted of wrote:
moonrakin_wurzel wrote:
Doh - more silly sentencing from the magistrates - Bath sent a bloke to prison for less than this last year - fat chance he'll pay the money back.
Why should he? Derek Conway doesn't have to pay any of the money that he scammed off the public back.
Sauce for the goose....
I suppose my point would be they're a load of do as I say and not as I do goons.
I recall the the girl in Sunderland who was nicked for diving her Ford Escort after two pints of lager and got a custodial and the man who owns Littlecote Manor who was twice the limit in his Jag on the M4 and didn't even get disqualified.
There's a exceedingly good case for getting rid of magistrates altogether.
Posted by: Kerry McColgan, trowbridge on 3:31pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Before you pass judgement make sure you know the facts becuase by what you have got above i know **** well that you haven't!! You have got so much wrong in this article you may as well start again, employee some proper reporters!!
Before you pass judgement make sure you know the facts becuase by what you have got above i know **** well that you haven't!! You have got so much wrong in this article you may as well start again, employee some proper reporters!!
Posted by: walter, wilshur on 3:51pm Wed 26 Mar 08
In which case, Kerry, tell us.
In which case, Kerry, tell us.
Posted by: mrsclunky, melksham on 3:55pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Kerry McColgan[/bold] wrote:
Before you pass judgement make sure you know the facts becuase by what you have got above i know **** well that you haven't!! You have got so much wrong in this article you may as well start again, employee some proper reporters!! [/quote] he is either a benefit theif or he is not doesnt matter if it was £1 or 30,000 he still claimed something that he was not entitled to.
maybe if the reporters have some information wrong he was still found guilty (for what it was worth)
Kerry McColgan wrote:
Before you pass judgement make sure you know the facts becuase by what you have got above i know **** well that you haven't!! You have got so much wrong in this article you may as well start again, employee some proper reporters!!
he is either a benefit theif or he is not doesnt matter if it was £1 or 30,000 he still claimed something that he was not entitled to.
maybe if the reporters have some information wrong he was still found guilty (for what it was worth)
Posted by: MrOldTownRed, Swindon on 3:58pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Kerry McColgan[/bold] wrote:
Before you pass judgement make sure you know the facts becuase by what you have got above i know **** well that you haven't!! You have got so much wrong in this article you may as well start again, employee some proper reporters!! [/quote] The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger.
Kerry McColgan wrote:
Before you pass judgement make sure you know the facts becuase by what you have got above i know **** well that you haven't!! You have got so much wrong in this article you may as well start again, employee some proper reporters!!
The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger.
Posted by: Kerry McColgan, trowbridge on 4:40pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[bold]The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry?
Jail the lazy workshy scrounger.[/bold] Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business
The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry?
Jail the lazy workshy scrounger. Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business
Posted by: MrOldTownRed, Swindon on 4:46pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Kerry McColgan[/bold] wrote:
[bold]The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger.[/bold] Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business[/quote] go and make us a cup of tea love and leave business to the men eh?
Kerry McColgan wrote:
The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger. Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business
go and make us a cup of tea love and leave business to the men eh?
Posted by: Kerry McColgan, trowbridge on 4:57pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Well if they got the article right i wouldnt be making a point would i!?
Make your own cup of tea, you've obviously got nothing better to do.
Well if they got the article right i wouldnt be making a point would i!?
Make your own cup of tea, you've obviously got nothing better to do.
Posted by: westburygirl, westbury on 5:07pm Wed 26 Mar 08
suspended sentence AGAIN !!!! dont the courts dish out appropriate sentences any more?? what a lot of money.... couldnt be accidently could it?? because you have to repeat the claim in another 6 months or so......
suspended sentence AGAIN !!!! dont the courts dish out appropriate sentences any more?? what a lot of money.... couldnt be accidently could it?? because you have to repeat the claim in another 6 months or so......
Posted by: mikee, trowbridge on 5:40pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Kerry McColgan[/bold] wrote:
[bold]The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger.[/bold] Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business[/quote] Kerry...I believe this has something to do with all of us. Those of us that work and contribute to the tax funds, do so to assist deserving cases where assistance is needed. We do not contribute to assist with fraudulent claims for benefits.
The article may not tell the whole story but it certainly tells me that yet another person guilty of fraud has been brought to some kind of justice (allbeit a token!!)
Kerry McColgan wrote:
The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger. Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business
Kerry...I believe this has something to do with all of us. Those of us that work and contribute to the tax funds, do so to assist deserving cases where assistance is needed. We do not contribute to assist with fraudulent claims for benefits.
The article may not tell the whole story but it certainly tells me that yet another person guilty of fraud has been brought to some kind of justice (allbeit a token!!)
Posted by: man-made, Wiltshire on 5:43pm Wed 26 Mar 08
"sentenced to eight months imprisonment, suspended for 12 months, with a six month supervision order" That yob who has given Kevin Watson brain damage is now getting let out in the summer. How does this even make sense???
"sentenced to eight months imprisonment, suspended for 12 months, with a six month supervision order" That yob who has given Kevin Watson brain damage is now getting let out in the summer. How does this even make sense???
Posted by: ronnie, deepest wiltshire on 6:27pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Kerry I don't know the whole story only what I have read but unless the person in question is mentaly Ill ( I doubt that) or had a gun held to his head for the 5 years in question than he knew what he was doing if the benifits agency made a mistake and paid him money he was not entilted to then he would not have been taken to court he would have just been told to pay it back so much a week. and if the sum was to much to pay each week he could have appeal
I was pay a benift even thought I told them I was not entitled and when eventually they realise I was told to pay back £8 a week I went to a tribunal and half of the arrers were written off and the rest was paid back at £4 per week I think is is a case of misquided loyalty Kerry. if you don't like the comments then tell us the truth.
Kerry I don't know the whole story only what I have read but unless the person in question is mentaly Ill ( I doubt that) or had a gun held to his head for the 5 years in question than he knew what he was doing if the benifits agency made a mistake and paid him money he was not entilted to then he would not have been taken to court he would have just been told to pay it back so much a week. and if the sum was to much to pay each week he could have appeal
I was pay a benift even thought I told them I was not entitled and when eventually they realise I was told to pay back £8 a week I went to a tribunal and half of the arrers were written off and the rest was paid back at £4 per week I think is is a case of misquided loyalty Kerry. if you don't like the comments then tell us the truth.
Posted by: blackdog, southwick on 6:49pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Why doesn,t this thief just take the shirt of my back as well as my tax.Why can he not'work'off the money he stole.Put these workshy scum on an island and leave them there, with no one to bail them out time and time again.
Why doesn,t this thief just take the shirt of my back as well as my tax.Why can he not'work'off the money he stole.Put these workshy scum on an island and leave them there, with no one to bail them out time and time again.
Posted by: Andy on 6:49pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Kerry McColgan[/bold] wrote:
[bold]The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry?
Jail the lazy workshy scrounger.[/bold] Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business[/quote] Hang on. You introduced the fact there was more too it. Now you tell people to mind their own business.
It seems quite straightforward. He dishonestly claimed benefit, simple as that.
Send these benefit scroungers to prison, maybe it will deter others who think they can rip off the tax paying public.
Kerry McColgan wrote:
The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry?
Jail the lazy workshy scrounger. Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business
Hang on. You introduced the fact there was more too it. Now you tell people to mind their own business.
It seems quite straightforward. He dishonestly claimed benefit, simple as that.
Send these benefit scroungers to prison, maybe it will deter others who think they can rip off the tax paying public.
Posted by: Kerry McColgan, trowbridge on 6:56pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Kerry McColgan[/bold] wrote: [bold]The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger.[/bold] Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business[/quote] Hang on. You introduced the fact there was more too it. Now you tell people to mind their own business. It seems quite straightforward. He dishonestly claimed benefit, simple as that. Send these benefit scroungers to prison, maybe it will deter others who think they can rip off the tax paying public.[/quote] He is paying it back.. has for the last 3 years..and had an accident so is classified as disabled so is unable to work, at least he is paying it back, yh he has a suspended sentence which is better than sending a sick man to jail! Most just go to jail and then still dont pay it back, at least he is! Scrounger, i think not, if he could work he would.
Andy wrote:
Kerry McColgan wrote: The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger. Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business
Hang on. You introduced the fact there was more too it. Now you tell people to mind their own business. It seems quite straightforward. He dishonestly claimed benefit, simple as that. Send these benefit scroungers to prison, maybe it will deter others who think they can rip off the tax paying public.
He is paying it back.. has for the last 3 years..and had an accident so is classified as disabled so is unable to work, at least he is paying it back, yh he has a suspended sentence which is better than sending a sick man to jail! Most just go to jail and then still dont pay it back, at least he is! Scrounger, i think not, if he could work he would.
Posted by: MrOldTownRed, Swindon on 7:25pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Kerry McColgan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Kerry McColgan[/bold] wrote: [bold]The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger.[/bold] Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business[/quote] Hang on. You introduced the fact there was more too it. Now you tell people to mind their own business. It seems quite straightforward. He dishonestly claimed benefit, simple as that. Send these benefit scroungers to prison, maybe it will deter others who think they can rip off the tax paying public.[/quote] He is paying it back.. has for the last 3 years..and had an accident so is classified as disabled so is unable to work, at least he is paying it back, yh he has a suspended sentence which is better than sending a sick man to jail! Most just go to jail and then still dont pay it back, at least he is! Scrounger, i think not, if he could work he would.[/quote] [bold]How very noble of him. Paying back the money he has stolen from us and he is so disabled he cannot do any job????
He should be made to pay back in full and if he can't, then all assets should be sold includng his house to pay us back.
If he cannot raise enough his wife should be put on the game![/bold]
Kerry McColgan wrote:
Andy wrote: Kerry McColgan wrote: The facts are he accidently claimed £30k then Kerry? Jail the lazy workshy scrounger. Haha what a joke..Grow up! Do you even know him.. no so keep your opinions to yourself!.. i know what happened and this article doesnt tell the whole truth..end of! And No i wont tell.. its got nothing to with you so concentrate on what effects you instead of other people's business
Hang on. You introduced the fact there was more too it. Now you tell people to mind their own business. It seems quite straightforward. He dishonestly claimed benefit, simple as that. Send these benefit scroungers to prison, maybe it will deter others who think they can rip off the tax paying public.
He is paying it back.. has for the last 3 years..and had an accident so is classified as disabled so is unable to work, at least he is paying it back, yh he has a suspended sentence which is better than sending a sick man to jail! Most just go to jail and then still dont pay it back, at least he is! Scrounger, i think not, if he could work he would.
How very noble of him. Paying back the money he has stolen from us and he is so disabled he cannot do any job????
He should be made to pay back in full and if he can't, then all assets should be sold includng his house to pay us back.
If he cannot raise enough his wife should be put on the game! Posted by: Bob, Paxcroft City on 7:31pm Wed 26 Mar 08
So the Bath NHS trust employ staff that can’t work, how do I sign up?
Kerry if as you say the story mis represents the facts, that is that Mr, opps another giro miller, is not a lying thief who is responsible for stealing tax payers money, which according to the story is what it mounts up too, than surly you owe it to him to tell us what the truth is.
He didn’t steal the money?
He didn’t lie to the government agencies?
He didn’t work whilst claiming he could not?
I can think of 34,197 reasons why this is something I should be aware of and that makes it by business.
As for going to prison, no I think the not Mr Miller has cost the tax payer far too much already, best find him a way of repaying the money plus interest.
So the Bath NHS trust employ staff that can’t work, how do I sign up?
Kerry if as you say the story mis represents the facts, that is that Mr, opps another giro miller, is not a lying thief who is responsible for stealing tax payers money, which according to the story is what it mounts up too, than surly you owe it to him to tell us what the truth is.
He didn’t steal the money?
He didn’t lie to the government agencies?
He didn’t work whilst claiming he could not?
I can think of 34,197 reasons why this is something I should be aware of and that makes it by business.
As for going to prison, no I think the not Mr Miller has cost the tax payer far too much already, best find him a way of repaying the money plus interest.
Posted by: mummy 1, trowbridge on 7:53pm Wed 26 Mar 08
And i expect he is paying it back at £1 a week, which will take 367 years!! I am completely fed up with all these work-shy scroungers,and i agree with: MrOldTownRed take everything of any value including his house to repay it
And i expect he is paying it back at £1 a week, which will take 367 years!! I am completely fed up with all these work-shy scroungers,and i agree with: MrOldTownRed take everything of any value including his house to repay it
Posted by: wiltshiregirl, westbury on 8:05pm Wed 26 Mar 08
I think it's about time the benefit people went round checking peoples houses and other assets,how can people on benefits afford posh cars motor bikes named clothes for themselfs as well have the latest gadgets.I am fed up with working like an idiot whilst the goverment give my money away to greedy people who work and claim.It's bloody terrible on the tax payer that works hard for what they have!
I think it's about time the benefit people went round checking peoples houses and other assets,how can people on benefits afford posh cars motor bikes named clothes for themselfs as well have the latest gadgets.I am fed up with working like an idiot whilst the goverment give my money away to greedy people who work and claim.It's bloody terrible on the tax payer that works hard for what they have!
Posted by: mrsclunky, melksham on 8:39pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote]He is paying it back.. has for the last 3 years..and had an accident so is classified as disabled so is unable to work, at least he is paying it back, yh he has a suspended sentence which is better than sending a sick man to jail! Most just go to jail and then still dont pay it back, at least he is! Scrounger, i think not, if he could work he would[/quote]
is he paying it back out of his benefits? our taxpayers money paying back...taxpayers money
He is paying it back.. has for the last 3 years..and had an accident so is classified as disabled so is unable to work, at least he is paying it back, yh he has a suspended sentence which is better than sending a sick man to jail! Most just go to jail and then still dont pay it back, at least he is! Scrounger, i think not, if he could work he would
is he paying it back out of his benefits? our taxpayers money paying back...taxpayers money
Posted by: ronnie, deepest wiltshire on 9:00pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mrsclunky[/bold] wrote:
[quote]He is paying it back.. has for the last 3 years..and had an accident so is classified as disabled so is unable to work, at least he is paying it back, yh he has a suspended sentence which is better than sending a sick man to jail! Most just go to jail and then still dont pay it back, at least he is! Scrounger, i think not, if he could work he would[/quote] is he paying it back out of his benefits? our taxpayers money paying back...taxpayers money[/quote] If he can,t work then he must be paying it back out of his benifits if he is disabled and can't work how did he get in this mess can't work get benifits work and don't get benifits although if you can only work fewer hours because of disabilty you can get tax credit plus extra if over 50 Wife must have worked and they forgot to tell DWP Kerry before you make things worse stop posting threads or tell us the real turth.
mrsclunky wrote:
He is paying it back.. has for the last 3 years..and had an accident so is classified as disabled so is unable to work, at least he is paying it back, yh he has a suspended sentence which is better than sending a sick man to jail! Most just go to jail and then still dont pay it back, at least he is! Scrounger, i think not, if he could work he would
is he paying it back out of his benefits? our taxpayers money paying back...taxpayers money
If he can,t work then he must be paying it back out of his benifits if he is disabled and can't work how did he get in this mess can't work get benifits work and don't get benifits although if you can only work fewer hours because of disabilty you can get tax credit plus extra if over 50 Wife must have worked and they forgot to tell DWP Kerry before you make things worse stop posting threads or tell us the real turth.
Posted by: moonrakin_wurzel, Trowbridge on 9:19pm Wed 26 Mar 08
OK put it this way - if you were giving a relative hundreds of pounds a month in financial support through hard times - would you nip around every now and again to check up on how they're doing ?
Part of the problem is that the money being handed out doesn't belong to the hander - outers and the modern curse of idiotic beaurocracy means that things aren't generally found out until someone's clearly taking the p*ss.
Disability benefit has been roundly abused too - with the government keen to push the unemployment figures around - apparently half the working population of Barrow on Furness were disabled when the big shipyard closed......
OK put it this way - if you were giving a relative hundreds of pounds a month in financial support through hard times - would you nip around every now and again to check up on how they're doing ?
Part of the problem is that the money being handed out doesn't belong to the hander - outers and the modern curse of idiotic beaurocracy means that things aren't generally found out until someone's clearly taking the p*ss.
Disability benefit has been roundly abused too - with the government keen to push the unemployment figures around - apparently half the working population of Barrow on Furness were disabled when the big shipyard closed......
Posted by: mad maggie, westbury on 10:18pm Wed 26 Mar 08
the wt were only reporting what was said in court, or did the court make up he is abenefit cheat,as they say on the radio hes a knock off nigel,and hes been knocked of his grubby little benefit claims
the wt were only reporting what was said in court, or did the court make up he is abenefit cheat,as they say on the radio hes a knock off nigel,and hes been knocked of his grubby little benefit claims
Posted by: Bilbo, Trowbridge on 10:19pm Wed 26 Mar 08
So what, another person found claiming money they shouldn't. When it gets paid back, or if it gets paid back, it'll only get wasted some other way by the government. I'm supprised the numpties in charge of giving out this money realised in the first place, it's about time this country found a better system to hand out benifits, instead of filling out countless forms, maybe if they did face to face interviews this sort of thing would be less common and less costly to the tax payer ! ! !
So what, another person found claiming money they shouldn't. When it gets paid back, or if it gets paid back, it'll only get wasted some other way by the government. I'm supprised the numpties in charge of giving out this money realised in the first place, it's about time this country found a better system to hand out benifits, instead of filling out countless forms, maybe if they did face to face interviews this sort of thing would be less common and less costly to the tax payer ! ! !
Posted by: anon, wiltshire on 1:10pm Thu 27 Mar 08
I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell
I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell
Posted by: Itchy Harris, Westbury on 2:18pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Good luck to the bloke. It's £34k less for this poxxy government to spend dropping bombs on women and kids in Iraq.
Good luck to the bloke. It's £34k less for this poxxy government to spend dropping bombs on women and kids in Iraq.
Posted by: westburygirl, westbury on 5:28pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mad maggie[/bold] wrote:
the wt were only reporting what was said in court, or did the court make up he is abenefit cheat,as they say on the radio hes a knock off nigel,and hes been knocked of his grubby little benefit claims [/quote] not exactly a " little benefit claim " is it? was quite a lot of money..quite a tidy some when added up along with his wife working as well..... cant have been a mistake becasue the forms all ask if there are any changes you wish to notify them of clearly....and where its signed too...
mad maggie wrote:
the wt were only reporting what was said in court, or did the court make up he is abenefit cheat,as they say on the radio hes a knock off nigel,and hes been knocked of his grubby little benefit claims
not exactly a " little benefit claim " is it? was quite a lot of money..quite a tidy some when added up along with his wife working as well..... cant have been a mistake becasue the forms all ask if there are any changes you wish to notify them of clearly....and where its signed too...
Posted by: moonrakin_wurzel, Trowbridge on 8:17pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Itchy Harris[/bold] wrote:
Good luck to the bloke. It's £34k less for this poxxy government to spend dropping bombs on women and kids in Iraq.
[/quote] b o l l o c k s
They're pretty much all hiding in a series of bunkers 10km outside Basra doing SFA
Itchy Harris wrote:
Good luck to the bloke. It's £34k less for this poxxy government to spend dropping bombs on women and kids in Iraq.
b o l l o c k s
They're pretty much all hiding in a series of bunkers 10km outside Basra doing SFA
Posted by: anon, Trowbridge on 10:03pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]anon[/bold] wrote:
I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell [/quote] I think it stinks that my husband and my self have to work hard to support our family while others sit at home and do jack s*** but you need to not tar all people with the same brush, just because someones disabled it doesn't mean they're getting free cars and screwing the system. Also a lot of disabled people have worked hard all of their lives but unfortunate accidents or poor health stop them from doing so, they also have the right to claim back some of the money they've paid in to the system through taxes.
anon wrote:
I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell
I think it stinks that my husband and my self have to work hard to support our family while others sit at home and do jack s*** but you need to not tar all people with the same brush, just because someones disabled it doesn't mean they're getting free cars and screwing the system. Also a lot of disabled people have worked hard all of their lives but unfortunate accidents or poor health stop them from doing so, they also have the right to claim back some of the money they've paid in to the system through taxes.
Posted by: annon, westbury on 10:15pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]man-made[/bold] wrote:
"sentenced to eight months imprisonment, suspended for 12 months, with a six month supervision order" That yob who has given Kevin Watson brain damage is now getting let out in the summer. How does this even make sense??? [/quote] relevent? not?
man-made wrote:
"sentenced to eight months imprisonment, suspended for 12 months, with a six month supervision order" That yob who has given Kevin Watson brain damage is now getting let out in the summer. How does this even make sense???
relevent? not?
Posted by: mad maggie, westbury on 10:36pm Thu 27 Mar 08
where is mr hawkers point of view he seems to know everything, and can tell us all what is what
where is mr hawkers point of view he seems to know everything, and can tell us all what is what
Posted by: Glos, GLOUCESTER on 10:46pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]anon[/bold] wrote:
I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell [/quote] Apologies to all for diverging further from original article but after just reading what Anon wrote has really annoyed me and I felt I have to speak up. You sound like a very narrow minding and bitter person. Please bear in mind those that are disabled or those that has disabled children as we do, that struggle to finance a car to make their lives just a tiny bit easier. My wife and I have worked all our lives, I don’t see a problem with a little bit of help in our situation. (We do not own a car on disability benefit as of yet!) Apologies once more for commenting on something unrelated to original subject!! [bold]bold[/bold]
anon wrote:
I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell
Apologies to all for diverging further from original article but after just reading what Anon wrote has really annoyed me and I felt I have to speak up. You sound like a very narrow minding and bitter person. Please bear in mind those that are disabled or those that has disabled children as we do, that struggle to finance a car to make their lives just a tiny bit easier. My wife and I have worked all our lives, I don’t see a problem with a little bit of help in our situation. (We do not own a car on disability benefit as of yet!) Apologies once more for commenting on something unrelated to original subject!!
Posted by: YetiJoe, Trow on 11:05pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Every system will be abused. There are "disabled" people and then there are "disabled" people i.e. my back hurts a bit, I have a limp etc.
The problem is that t o s s e r s like this guy who knowingly defraud the system are seen by many as committing a victimless crime.
I'd rather the 34k bought a few more bombs or a nice sniper rifle than lined the pockets of an a r s e h o l e like that who could do A job, if not THE job of his dreams. Too many lazy scum sit on their benefit padded backsides while decent folk work to pay their way for them.
Sorry, my tolerance is very low, the threshold for claiming needs to be much, MUCH higher so only the truly deserving get the cash.
How many young and fit men do you see propping up the bar in the Pitman of a lunchtime, drinking their DLA or mobility allowance or JSA or whatever freebie it is they get from the rest of us?
Jail him, especially if the pay back is from his benefits. If the money is from his wife (an accomplice?) then she can still work and pay it while he makes number plates in jail - or some other forced labour to add value back to society.
Every system will be abused. There are "disabled" people and then there are "disabled" people i.e. my back hurts a bit, I have a limp etc.
The problem is that t o s s e r s like this guy who knowingly defraud the system are seen by many as committing a victimless crime.
I'd rather the 34k bought a few more bombs or a nice sniper rifle than lined the pockets of an a r s e h o l e like that who could do A job, if not THE job of his dreams. Too many lazy scum sit on their benefit padded backsides while decent folk work to pay their way for them.
Sorry, my tolerance is very low, the threshold for claiming needs to be much, MUCH higher so only the truly deserving get the cash.
How many young and fit men do you see propping up the bar in the Pitman of a lunchtime, drinking their DLA or mobility allowance or JSA or whatever freebie it is they get from the rest of us?
Jail him, especially if the pay back is from his benefits. If the money is from his wife (an accomplice?) then she can still work and pay it while he makes number plates in jail - or some other forced labour to add value back to society.
Posted by: anon, wiltshire on 9:33am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Glos[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]anon[/bold] wrote: I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell [/quote] Apologies to all for diverging further from original article but after just reading what Anon wrote has really annoyed me and I felt I have to speak up. You sound like a very narrow minding and bitter person. Please bear in mind those that are disabled or those that has disabled children as we do, that struggle to finance a car to make their lives just a tiny bit easier. My wife and I have worked all our lives, I don’t see a problem with a little bit of help in our situation. (We do not own a car on disability benefit as of yet!) Apologies once more for commenting on something unrelated to original subject!! [bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] I am not against anyone having help but when people sell their £15,000 car and pocket the money because they can get a free one then i think it is wrong and it should be means tested when people can afford to finance their own car in the first place.
Glos wrote:
anon wrote: I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell
Apologies to all for diverging further from original article but after just reading what Anon wrote has really annoyed me and I felt I have to speak up. You sound like a very narrow minding and bitter person. Please bear in mind those that are disabled or those that has disabled children as we do, that struggle to finance a car to make their lives just a tiny bit easier. My wife and I have worked all our lives, I don’t see a problem with a little bit of help in our situation. (We do not own a car on disability benefit as of yet!) Apologies once more for commenting on something unrelated to original subject!!
I am not against anyone having help but when people sell their £15,000 car and pocket the money because they can get a free one then i think it is wrong and it should be means tested when people can afford to finance their own car in the first place.
Posted by: ronnie, deepest wiltshire on 9:50am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]anon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Glos[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]anon[/bold] wrote: I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell [/quote] Apologies to all for diverging further from original article but after just reading what Anon wrote has really annoyed me and I felt I have to speak up. You sound like a very narrow minding and bitter person. Please bear in mind those that are disabled or those that has disabled children as we do, that struggle to finance a car to make their lives just a tiny bit easier. My wife and I have worked all our lives, I don’t see a problem with a little bit of help in our situation. (We do not own a car on disability benefit as of yet!) Apologies once more for commenting on something unrelated to original subject!! [bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] I am not against anyone having help but when people sell their £15,000 car and pocket the money because they can get a free one then i think it is wrong and it should be means tested when people can afford to finance their own car in the first place.[/quote] Anon are you talking about people selling thier cars that they have throught the motbilty scheme or selling cars brought privatly then getting a car throught motobilty. To get a car throught motobilty you have to recive high rate DLA mobilty compoment.
the car log book are kept by motobilty and reg in thier name. therefore it is now almost impossiable to sell the car.
anon wrote:
Glos wrote: anon wrote: I expect as he can't work he is getting a brand new car off the tax payer too!! This really anoys me as i know people who have been registered disabled and sold there cars kept the money and got a brand new one free i think this should be stopped aswell
Apologies to all for diverging further from original article but after just reading what Anon wrote has really annoyed me and I felt I have to speak up. You sound like a very narrow minding and bitter person. Please bear in mind those that are disabled or those that has disabled children as we do, that struggle to finance a car to make their lives just a tiny bit easier. My wife and I have worked all our lives, I don’t see a problem with a little bit of help in our situation. (We do not own a car on disability benefit as of yet!) Apologies once more for commenting on something unrelated to original subject!!
I am not against anyone having help but when people sell their £15,000 car and pocket the money because they can get a free one then i think it is wrong and it should be means tested when people can afford to finance their own car in the first place.
Anon are you talking about people selling thier cars that they have throught the motbilty scheme or selling cars brought privatly then getting a car throught motobilty. To get a car throught motobilty you have to recive high rate DLA mobilty compoment.
the car log book are kept by motobilty and reg in thier name. therefore it is now almost impossiable to sell the car.
Posted by: anon, wiltshire on 10:41am Fri 28 Mar 08
i am talking about people who sell their own personal cars and then claim mobility cars and i know several people that have done it and i know they are pretty well off. I think the benefit should be given to needy people and not just help the rich get richer i was not in anyway saying people should not get this benefit as i do know their are people who really need it and it should be given to people who really need it not people who go and sell their BMW's and pocket the money to get a free car that to me is not needy.
i am talking about people who sell their own personal cars and then claim mobility cars and i know several people that have done it and i know they are pretty well off. I think the benefit should be given to needy people and not just help the rich get richer i was not in anyway saying people should not get this benefit as i do know their are people who really need it and it should be given to people who really need it not people who go and sell their BMW's and pocket the money to get a free car that to me is not needy.
Posted by: anon, wiltshire on 10:46am Fri 28 Mar 08
And i know this guy hasn't got a mobility car that we know of but as he is saying he is unable to work due to disability then i wouldn't be surprised if he put a claim in for mobility and got a new car from it
And i know this guy hasn't got a mobility car that we know of but as he is saying he is unable to work due to disability then i wouldn't be surprised if he put a claim in for mobility and got a new car from it
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