We will catch these motoring menaces

This Is Wiltshire: JUMPING red lights, doing double the speed limit and using a mobile phone were just some of the offences seen during a driving clampdown in North Swindon. JUMPING red lights, doing double the speed limit and using a mobile phone were just some of the offences seen during a driving clampdown in North Swindon.

JUMPING red lights, doing double the speed limit and using a mobile phone were just some of the offences seen during a driving clampdown in North Swindon.

A police operation on dangerous and anti-social driving has been widely welcomed by local people.

The first of a series of operations aimed at tackling driving offences in the area took place during the evening of March 27.

Although largely focused on motorcyclists riding irresponsibly – the incidents of which have previously risen during the lighter months –the adverse weather conditions saw fewer bikes on the road, and led officers to target more car drivers.

Enforcement on Thamesdown Drive was part of the day of action and seven motorists were given fixed penalty notices.

One was given a court summons after being caught doing 74mph along Thamesdown Drive – nearly double the speed limit of 40mph.

Other offences included three drivers who were stopped for speeding, two running red lights, one person not wearing a seat belt and one person using their mobile phone.

Acting Police Sergeant Gavin Brewster said: “The operation was very well received by residents and dog walkers,who were pleased to see police patrolling cycle paths and fields on foot, bicycles and motorcycles.

“We will continue our drive to tackle anti-social riding of motorcycles throughout the coming months and I would like to remind all drivers that this is an on-going operation.

“Thamesdown Drive seems to get treated like a dual carriageway by motorists, but it serves a high residential population and is clearly signposted as a 40 miles per hour zone.

“The dangers of running red lights and travelling at excess speed are well known and are high contributors towards serious and fatal road traffic collisions, which is why the Roads Policing Unit along with the Neighbourhood Policing Teams will continue to enforce such offences.”

The operation was organised after complaints from residents about anti-social riders in Pinehurst, Penhill and Abbey Meads, with spring and summer seeing an increase in incidents involving irresponsible bikers.

Roads Policing Unit and West and North Swindon Neighbour-hood Policing Teams will be working together on special days of action as well as stepping up patrols generally, with off-road motorcycle patrols, foot patrols and unmarked cars to tackle the issue.

Sgt Brewster said: “We want to deter people from using their mini-motos, mopeds, motorcycles or quad bikes in public areas in an anti-social manner.

“There is a real risk of people getting seriously injured when these vehicles are misused.”

Anyone wishing to report anti-social driving should contact Wiltshire Police on 101 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111, anonymously if desired.

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8:56am Sat 30 Mar 13

oldlegtrailer says...

Nothing against the police for doing this but nuisance bikers is a result of Local Council's attitudes over the years to prevent anyone from opening an off road track for bikers to ride at. Badlands, 3 tracks at Wootton Bassett, and upteen others have fallen by the wayside because of negative help from Councils and if the council had its way Foxhill a source of great revenue to the town in the 80s and 90s would be shut but thankfully still operating. You are now reaping what you have sown.
Nothing against the police for doing this but nuisance bikers is a result of Local Council's attitudes over the years to prevent anyone from opening an off road track for bikers to ride at. Badlands, 3 tracks at Wootton Bassett, and upteen others have fallen by the wayside because of negative help from Councils and if the council had its way Foxhill a source of great revenue to the town in the 80s and 90s would be shut but thankfully still operating. You are now reaping what you have sown. oldlegtrailer
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9:40am Sat 30 Mar 13

Affronted says...

Only ONE person using a mobile phone? I see drivers doing it on a daily basis time after time after time after time after time.......... it's outrageous, dangerous and irresponsible - more effort should be put into stopping it TOTALLY!
Only ONE person using a mobile phone? I see drivers doing it on a daily basis time after time after time after time after time.......... it's outrageous, dangerous and irresponsible - more effort should be put into stopping it TOTALLY! Affronted
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9:52am Sat 30 Mar 13

Davey Gravey says...

Make driving penalties at least twice as harsh and make bans permanant. Too many morons on the roads that need removing.
Make driving penalties at least twice as harsh and make bans permanant. Too many morons on the roads that need removing. Davey Gravey
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9:59am Sat 30 Mar 13

stfcdod says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Make driving penalties at least twice as harsh and make bans permanant. Too many morons on the roads that need removing.
Isn't it strange, all these 'morons on the roads', being lambasted by drivers who are probably perfect.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Make driving penalties at least twice as harsh and make bans permanant. Too many morons on the roads that need removing.[/p][/quote]Isn't it strange, all these 'morons on the roads', being lambasted by drivers who are probably perfect. stfcdod
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11:24am Sat 30 Mar 13

Affronted says...

I think I have a right to comment, I had stopped at red traffic lights and the moron behind me was so busy texting on his mobile phone that he ran into the back of my car at great speed and caused a 3 car pile up with me sandwiched in the middle. He got away with it by hiding his phone!!!!

I rest my case!
I think I have a right to comment, I had stopped at red traffic lights and the moron behind me was so busy texting on his mobile phone that he ran into the back of my car at great speed and caused a 3 car pile up with me sandwiched in the middle. He got away with it by hiding his phone!!!! I rest my case! Affronted
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11:38am Sat 30 Mar 13

Oik1 says...

"Although largely focused on motorcyclists riding irresponsibly"

Erm, given the results and there being far more irresponsible car drivers on the roads at any time of the year,

" One was given a court summons after being caught doing 74mph along Thamesdown Drive – nearly double the speed limit of 40mph.

Other offences included three drivers who were stopped for speeding, two running red lights, one person not wearing a seat belt and one person using their mobile phone."

Perhaps the Police should be spending a hell of a lot more time chasing up the car drivers, these results show there is a serious case or need for it.
"Although largely focused on motorcyclists riding irresponsibly" Erm, given the results and there being far more irresponsible car drivers on the roads at any time of the year, " One was given a court summons after being caught doing 74mph along Thamesdown Drive – nearly double the speed limit of 40mph. Other offences included three drivers who were stopped for speeding, two running red lights, one person not wearing a seat belt and one person using their mobile phone." Perhaps the Police should be spending a hell of a lot more time chasing up the car drivers, these results show there is a serious case or need for it. Oik1
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11:38am Sat 30 Mar 13

stfcdod says...

Affronted wrote:
I think I have a right to comment, I had stopped at red traffic lights and the moron behind me was so busy texting on his mobile phone that he ran into the back of my car at great speed and caused a 3 car pile up with me sandwiched in the middle. He got away with it by hiding his phone!!!!

I rest my case!
And the police were unable to find it ! Sounds strange to me.
[quote][p][bold]Affronted[/bold] wrote: I think I have a right to comment, I had stopped at red traffic lights and the moron behind me was so busy texting on his mobile phone that he ran into the back of my car at great speed and caused a 3 car pile up with me sandwiched in the middle. He got away with it by hiding his phone!!!! I rest my case![/p][/quote]And the police were unable to find it ! Sounds strange to me. stfcdod
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1:36pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Raef Barnes says...

stfcdod wrote:
Affronted wrote:
I think I have a right to comment, I had stopped at red traffic lights and the moron behind me was so busy texting on his mobile phone that he ran into the back of my car at great speed and caused a 3 car pile up with me sandwiched in the middle. He got away with it by hiding his phone!!!!

I rest my case!
And the police were unable to find it ! Sounds strange to me.
Agree that does sound strange as surely whether a phone was involved or not, you're saying you were hit from behind at great speed. How was the driver not charged with driving without due care and attention?
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Affronted[/bold] wrote: I think I have a right to comment, I had stopped at red traffic lights and the moron behind me was so busy texting on his mobile phone that he ran into the back of my car at great speed and caused a 3 car pile up with me sandwiched in the middle. He got away with it by hiding his phone!!!! I rest my case![/p][/quote]And the police were unable to find it ! Sounds strange to me.[/p][/quote]Agree that does sound strange as surely whether a phone was involved or not, you're saying you were hit from behind at great speed. How was the driver not charged with driving without due care and attention? Raef Barnes
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1:55pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Davey Gravey says...

stfcdod wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Make driving penalties at least twice as harsh and make bans permanant. Too many morons on the roads that need removing.
Isn't it strange, all these 'morons on the roads', being lambasted by drivers who are probably perfect.
Nobody is perfect. Irrelivant anyway to the point i made.

Harsher laws would make the bad drivers think a bit more,and if it didn't would get them off the roads.
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Make driving penalties at least twice as harsh and make bans permanant. Too many morons on the roads that need removing.[/p][/quote]Isn't it strange, all these 'morons on the roads', being lambasted by drivers who are probably perfect.[/p][/quote]Nobody is perfect. Irrelivant anyway to the point i made. Harsher laws would make the bad drivers think a bit more,and if it didn't would get them off the roads. Davey Gravey
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2:09pm Sat 30 Mar 13

house on the hill says...

That is pretty much the norm these days, speeding phoning not bothering to indicate are everyday occurrences on our roads. On my 15 min commute I see at least one red light jumper and half a dozen on their phones every day and I have followed more than one car all the way home who didn't bother to indicate once around 6 roundabouts and the same number of junctions. We still kill an average of 9 people a day in crashes the motoring organisations agree most are driver error, so we are killing ourselves and each other through stupidity or selfishness. Sad but true and no it won't change
That is pretty much the norm these days, speeding phoning not bothering to indicate are everyday occurrences on our roads. On my 15 min commute I see at least one red light jumper and half a dozen on their phones every day and I have followed more than one car all the way home who didn't bother to indicate once around 6 roundabouts and the same number of junctions. We still kill an average of 9 people a day in crashes the motoring organisations agree most are driver error, so we are killing ourselves and each other through stupidity or selfishness. Sad but true and no it won't change house on the hill
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3:21pm Sat 30 Mar 13

nobody says...

There should be traffic police policing the roads all the time not just once in a blue moon.
There should be traffic police policing the roads all the time not just once in a blue moon. nobody
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3:59pm Sat 30 Mar 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Sounds to me like they weren't trying. I see that much in one journey the length of Thamesdown drive.

Dashboard camera's are becoming a necessity these days, simply to protect yourself from people who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions.

The punishment for motoring offenses should be much harsher. As an example, if you were caught exceeding the speed limit by more than 15mph, the vehicle regardless of ownership should be crushed. You wouldn't need to be caught many times if at all for a change of driving habit to take effect.

@oldlegtrailer
When you are driving/riding on the public highway you have legal responsibilities. If you break those responsibilities it is because you have made a conscious decision to do so at your own risk and you accept the repercussions of your actions.
Sounds to me like they weren't trying. I see that much in one journey the length of Thamesdown drive. Dashboard camera's are becoming a necessity these days, simply to protect yourself from people who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions. The punishment for motoring offenses should be much harsher. As an example, if you were caught exceeding the speed limit by more than 15mph, the vehicle regardless of ownership should be crushed. You wouldn't need to be caught many times if at all for a change of driving habit to take effect. @oldlegtrailer When you are driving/riding on the public highway you have legal responsibilities. If you break those responsibilities it is because you have made a conscious decision to do so at your own risk and you accept the repercussions of your actions. LordAshOfTheBrake
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4:43pm Sat 30 Mar 13

taffy888 says...

Not only Thamesdown Drive,the junction of Victoria Road and Groundwell Road is just as bad, waiting at the redlight at Victoria Road to change amber, just started to proceed on green, a lunatic sped past me from Groundwell Road holding a mobile phone in the ear, Where are the cameras to detect stupid drivers, sooner or later there will be a fatal accident on that junction. There is a pedestrian crossing at the junctions, so not only the motorist will be injuried, also the pedestrian.
Not only Thamesdown Drive,the junction of Victoria Road and Groundwell Road is just as bad, waiting at the redlight at Victoria Road to change amber, just started to proceed on green, a lunatic sped past me from Groundwell Road holding a mobile phone in the ear, Where are the cameras to detect stupid drivers, sooner or later there will be a fatal accident on that junction. There is a pedestrian crossing at the junctions, so not only the motorist will be injuried, also the pedestrian. taffy888
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4:49pm Sat 30 Mar 13

dukeofM4 says...

Harsher and harsher punishments start to follow the law of 'diminishing returns.' Even if you hit someone with big fines and insurance premiums that doesn't deter everyone until they get 12 points and some of them will continue to drive while banned.

There are no easy quick fixes. I'm afraid the only effective route to road safety is road design (stop stupid drivers doing stupid things), vehicle safety (airbags, and pedestrian friendly bumpers - no bull bars) and off course emergency service response times (and perhaps bystanders assistance at roadside).

Technology has proved to be a mixed bag as we all know from speed cameras and governmental infighting over money.

Putting the police on every corner is too expensive and a one-off police operation fades with people's memories.

So what is the answer? We're back to social acceptability/respon
sibility and people's attitudes again.
Harsher and harsher punishments start to follow the law of 'diminishing returns.' Even if you hit someone with big fines and insurance premiums that doesn't deter everyone until they get 12 points and some of them will continue to drive while banned. There are no easy quick fixes. I'm afraid the only effective route to road safety is road design (stop stupid drivers doing stupid things), vehicle safety (airbags, and pedestrian friendly bumpers - no bull bars) and off course emergency service response times (and perhaps bystanders assistance at roadside). Technology has proved to be a mixed bag as we all know from speed cameras and governmental infighting over money. Putting the police on every corner is too expensive and a one-off police operation fades with people's memories. So what is the answer? We're back to social acceptability/respon sibility and people's attitudes again. dukeofM4
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5:16pm Sat 30 Mar 13

dukeofM4 says...

Oh....I forgot to add for the future. Some places in the world have recently (US States of California and Nevada) has recently allowed Google (http://en.wikipedia
.org/wiki/Google_dri
verless_) to test its driverless cars legally on the public roads.

Future offenses may include 'failure to update a vehicle's manufacturing software and causing bodily harm.'

Will drink driving still be illegal or just harder to catch?
Oh....I forgot to add for the future. Some places in the world have recently (US States of California and Nevada) has recently allowed Google (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Google_dri verless_) to test its driverless cars legally on the public roads. Future offenses may include 'failure to update a vehicle's manufacturing software and causing bodily harm.' Will drink driving still be illegal or just harder to catch? dukeofM4
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5:56pm Sat 30 Mar 13

timt1964 says...

any drivers ignoring the rules that we all know should have their cars taken away.the police are not effective because theres not enough officers on the roads/beat at once.because they catch the odd idiot doesnt make a difference.the people of swindon are not quaking in their boots because the morons who take the p**s out of the road laws think their above the law.why do boy racers always look about 3 feet tall,no seat belt,**** exhaust and think they are fast and furious?
any drivers ignoring the rules that we all know should have their cars taken away.the police are not effective because theres not enough officers on the roads/beat at once.because they catch the odd idiot doesnt make a difference.the people of swindon are not quaking in their boots because the morons who take the p**s out of the road laws think their above the law.why do boy racers always look about 3 feet tall,no seat belt,**** exhaust and think they are fast and furious? timt1964
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6:04pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Hmmmf says...


why do boy racers always look about 3 feet tall,no seat belt,**** exhaust and think they are fast and furious?”

The bigger the pipe at the back, the smaller the d1ck in the front.
[quote][p][bold][/bold] why do boy racers always look about 3 feet tall,no seat belt,**** exhaust and think they are fast and furious?”[/quote] The bigger the pipe at the back, the smaller the d1ck in the front. Hmmmf
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7:24pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Meldrews Dad says...

Wow! Three whole police officers seen at the same time. Shame they weren't doing something useful like chasing real crime.

Try calling in about theft and see how long it takes them to find someone to attend. - Park on a double yellow and their are hordes of them.

Get you priorities right officer: crime first and petty motoring offences in spare time.

Sounds like yet another police fund raising exercise.
Wow! Three whole police officers seen at the same time. Shame they weren't doing something useful like chasing real crime. Try calling in about theft and see how long it takes them to find someone to attend. - Park on a double yellow and their are hordes of them. Get you priorities right officer: crime first and petty motoring offences in spare time. Sounds like yet another police fund raising exercise. Meldrews Dad
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7:31pm Sat 30 Mar 13

Gerequois says...

oldlegtrailer wrote:
Nothing against the police for doing this but nuisance bikers is a result of Local Council's attitudes over the years to prevent anyone from opening an off road track for bikers to ride at. Badlands, 3 tracks at Wootton Bassett, and upteen others have fallen by the wayside because of negative help from Councils and if the council had its way Foxhill a source of great revenue to the town in the 80s and 90s would be shut but thankfully still operating. You are now reaping what you have sown.
Countless twits on motorbikes riding along fully paved pedestrian & cycle paths has nothing whatsoever to do with lack of off road facilities - how is riding along paved footpaths a substitute for riding off road?

By the same token, motorbikes riding at 70mph in 40 zones (just like the idiot car driver in the story was not due to 'lack of off road car tracks') is nothing to do with 'lack of off road bike tracks' what nonsense.

Besides, lack of anything is not an excuse for dangerous driving by any kind of driver, be they on a bike, car or anything else.
[quote][p][bold]oldlegtrailer[/bold] wrote: Nothing against the police for doing this but nuisance bikers is a result of Local Council's attitudes over the years to prevent anyone from opening an off road track for bikers to ride at. Badlands, 3 tracks at Wootton Bassett, and upteen others have fallen by the wayside because of negative help from Councils and if the council had its way Foxhill a source of great revenue to the town in the 80s and 90s would be shut but thankfully still operating. You are now reaping what you have sown.[/p][/quote]Countless twits on motorbikes riding along fully paved pedestrian & cycle paths has nothing whatsoever to do with lack of off road facilities - how is riding along paved footpaths a substitute for riding off road? By the same token, motorbikes riding at 70mph in 40 zones (just like the idiot car driver in the story was not due to 'lack of off road car tracks') is nothing to do with 'lack of off road bike tracks' what nonsense. Besides, lack of anything is not an excuse for dangerous driving by any kind of driver, be they on a bike, car or anything else. Gerequois
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7:53pm Sat 30 Mar 13

dannyboy stm says...

I was stopped some time ago on Thamesdown Drive "duel carriageway" at 515 am on my way to work to earn an honest living, when a sneaky plod (hiding in the bushes) with nothing better to do...clocked me doing 48 mph..!!!! 3 points and £60 fine.
What a hero...!!!!!
Phone them to report that house has been burgaled and none of them even bother to turn up!!!!! They are useless IMHO!!!!!
I was stopped some time ago on Thamesdown Drive "duel carriageway" at 515 am on my way to work to earn an honest living, when a sneaky plod (hiding in the bushes) with nothing better to do...clocked me doing 48 mph..!!!! 3 points and £60 fine. What a hero...!!!!! Phone them to report that house has been burgaled and none of them even bother to turn up!!!!! They are useless IMHO!!!!! dannyboy stm
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8:07pm Sat 30 Mar 13

dannyboy stm says...

How many yobs riding illegal motorbikes do these sneaky plod actually catch and prosecute...???
None..!!!!!
Its just a front to persecute the unsuspecting, law abiding motorist!!!!! Useless IMHO!!!!
How many yobs riding illegal motorbikes do these sneaky plod actually catch and prosecute...??? None..!!!!! Its just a front to persecute the unsuspecting, law abiding motorist!!!!! Useless IMHO!!!! dannyboy stm
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8:24pm Sat 30 Mar 13

John Smith II says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
How many yobs riding illegal motorbikes do these sneaky plod actually catch and prosecute...??? None..!!!!! Its just a front to persecute the unsuspecting, law abiding motorist!!!!! Useless IMHO!!!!
Persecution of the law-abiding - an interesting view!

How many of those given fines or court summons' in the above story were not breaking the law?!

The idea of a 'dashboard camera' sounds like fun - I wonder if it is legal to post the footage on YouTube?
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: How many yobs riding illegal motorbikes do these sneaky plod actually catch and prosecute...??? None..!!!!! Its just a front to persecute the unsuspecting, law abiding motorist!!!!! Useless IMHO!!!![/p][/quote]Persecution of the law-abiding - an interesting view! How many of those given fines or court summons' in the above story were not breaking the law?! The idea of a 'dashboard camera' sounds like fun - I wonder if it is legal to post the footage on YouTube? John Smith II
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8:46pm Sat 30 Mar 13

dannyboy stm says...

The facts remain John Smith 11...that acting sergeant Brewster set up this plan to catch irresponsible motorcylists but was unable to catch any cause its a bit nippy outside at the moment,and all the thugs are nice and warm indoors with there pregnant teenage girlfriends, stroking the staffie while watching Jeremy Kyle.....so he turns his attention (and £ooos of tax payers money) to catch a motorist using there cell phone while driving...illegal I agree, but at what cost to myself and other tax payers!!!!
Isuggest acting sergeant Brewster checks the weather forecast before his next plan of action!!!!
The facts remain John Smith 11...that acting sergeant Brewster set up this plan to catch irresponsible motorcylists but was unable to catch any cause its a bit nippy outside at the moment,and all the thugs are nice and warm indoors with there pregnant teenage girlfriends, stroking the staffie while watching Jeremy Kyle.....so he turns his attention (and £ooos of tax payers money) to catch a motorist using there cell phone while driving...illegal I agree, but at what cost to myself and other tax payers!!!! Isuggest acting sergeant Brewster checks the weather forecast before his next plan of action!!!! dannyboy stm
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8:13am Sun 31 Mar 13

house on the hill says...

"""" DukeofM4 Says
So what is the answer? We're back to social acceptability/respon

sibility and people's attitudes again.”"""""

Absolutely spot on Duke, pretty much all of the countries problems can be put down to the lack of a sense of responsibility and a totally selfish attitude. Like the posters who feel that motoring offences are petty but theft is far more of a priority. So the fact there are still 3,000 deaths on the roads and around 10,000 life changing injuries every year against maybe 1 or 2 in burglary somehow makes it petty????

I bet if someone close to you was knocked down and killed by a speeding chav in a penhill porsche and you phoned the Police and they said "sorry, some bloke has had his flascreen knicked and we are a bit busy at the moment" you would go completely mad!

So many have this "it will never happen to me" or "I am a good driver and can ignore the law and make my own decisions how I will drive" attitude until something happens. The vast majority of deaths and injuries on our roads are not "accidents" they are crashes that could have been avoided with a bit more care and attention.

We need more education around the "R"s, Respect, Responsibility ad Reality and people who wont learn are properly punished for their life changing actions. So many people say they care but in reality they dont. There are hundreds of thousands of drink drivers on the road and I defy anyone to say they have never speeded. We all have this double standards attitude to life where we exepct others to live by a higher moral code than we feel we need to, it seems its ok for us to speed, go on mobiles, and just drive like a complete prat, but if anyone else does it and harms someone we care about it then suddenly it all changes.

Education and proper fines/punishements are the only way we will cut the number of deaths and injuries as clearly there are more than a few who think the theft of their goldfish is far more important than their loved one being run down by a selfish motorist!!!
"""" DukeofM4 Says So what is the answer? We're back to social acceptability/respon sibility and people's attitudes again.”""""" Absolutely spot on Duke, pretty much all of the countries problems can be put down to the lack of a sense of responsibility and a totally selfish attitude. Like the posters who feel that motoring offences are petty but theft is far more of a priority. So the fact there are still 3,000 deaths on the roads and around 10,000 life changing injuries every year against maybe 1 or 2 in burglary somehow makes it petty???? I bet if someone close to you was knocked down and killed by a speeding chav in a penhill porsche and you phoned the Police and they said "sorry, some bloke has had his flascreen knicked and we are a bit busy at the moment" you would go completely mad! So many have this "it will never happen to me" or "I am a good driver and can ignore the law and make my own decisions how I will drive" attitude until something happens. The vast majority of deaths and injuries on our roads are not "accidents" they are crashes that could have been avoided with a bit more care and attention. We need more education around the "R"s, Respect, Responsibility ad Reality and people who wont learn are properly punished for their life changing actions. So many people say they care but in reality they dont. There are hundreds of thousands of drink drivers on the road and I defy anyone to say they have never speeded. We all have this double standards attitude to life where we exepct others to live by a higher moral code than we feel we need to, it seems its ok for us to speed, go on mobiles, and just drive like a complete prat, but if anyone else does it and harms someone we care about it then suddenly it all changes. Education and proper fines/punishements are the only way we will cut the number of deaths and injuries as clearly there are more than a few who think the theft of their goldfish is far more important than their loved one being run down by a selfish motorist!!! house on the hill
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9:27am Sun 31 Mar 13

stfcdod says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
I was stopped some time ago on Thamesdown Drive "duel carriageway" at 515 am on my way to work to earn an honest living, when a sneaky plod (hiding in the bushes) with nothing better to do...clocked me doing 48 mph..!!!! 3 points and £60 fine.
What a hero...!!!!!
Phone them to report that house has been burgaled and none of them even bother to turn up!!!!! They are useless IMHO!!!!!
Errr................
but I thought the speed limit there was 40mph. The policeman was right then. Stop moaning.
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: I was stopped some time ago on Thamesdown Drive "duel carriageway" at 515 am on my way to work to earn an honest living, when a sneaky plod (hiding in the bushes) with nothing better to do...clocked me doing 48 mph..!!!! 3 points and £60 fine. What a hero...!!!!! Phone them to report that house has been burgaled and none of them even bother to turn up!!!!! They are useless IMHO!!!!![/p][/quote]Errr................ but I thought the speed limit there was 40mph. The policeman was right then. Stop moaning. stfcdod
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10:45am Sun 31 Mar 13

Simples! says...

Errr i think the point being made is that perhaps the police are quick to stop anybody that arent likely to give them a hard time but turn a blind eye to the scroungers and idiots with attitude that are likely to kick off. Ie stop somebody on the way to work thats going just over the speed limit but ignore the tw@ts using mobile phones or driving aggressively or dangerously etc....
Errr i think the point being made is that perhaps the police are quick to stop anybody that arent likely to give them a hard time but turn a blind eye to the scroungers and idiots with attitude that are likely to kick off. Ie stop somebody on the way to work thats going just over the speed limit but ignore the tw@ts using mobile phones or driving aggressively or dangerously etc.... Simples!
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11:02am Sun 31 Mar 13

Simples! says...

At the end of the day there is no deterrant for ppl breaking the law. Worst that can happen is a few nights in a prison that is more like a nice hotel that decent hard working people couldnt afford to stay at!! Fines etc mean little to benefit scroungers as it is prob back at a minimal rate. Seems to me that majority of immigrants dont bother with insurance etc?!!
At the end of the day there is no deterrant for ppl breaking the law. Worst that can happen is a few nights in a prison that is more like a nice hotel that decent hard working people couldnt afford to stay at!! Fines etc mean little to benefit scroungers as it is prob back at a minimal rate. Seems to me that majority of immigrants dont bother with insurance etc?!! Simples!
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12:37pm Sun 31 Mar 13

Hmmmf says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
Stuff that sounded like a baby crying

You got busted for exceeding the speed limit by 20%. Take your lumps like a man, stop whining like a girly, and get over it. And don't do it again.
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: Stuff that sounded like a baby crying[/quote] You got busted for exceeding the speed limit by 20%. Take your lumps like a man, stop whining like a girly, and get over it. And don't do it again. Hmmmf
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1:37pm Sun 31 Mar 13

Brainy_G93 says...

stfcdod wrote:
dannyboy stm wrote:
I was stopped some time ago on Thamesdown Drive "duel carriageway" at 515 am on my way to work to earn an honest living, when a sneaky plod (hiding in the bushes) with nothing better to do...clocked me doing 48 mph..!!!! 3 points and £60 fine.
What a hero...!!!!!
Phone them to report that house has been burgaled and none of them even bother to turn up!!!!! They are useless IMHO!!!!!
Errr................

but I thought the speed limit there was 40mph. The policeman was right then. Stop moaning.
I'm with you Danny. Whilst I agree you were wrong by speeding the Plod do spend a lot of time on the trivial things ie hiding in the bushes at 5.15 in the morning. I friend of mine was also burgled recently... What happened? Nothing.
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: I was stopped some time ago on Thamesdown Drive "duel carriageway" at 515 am on my way to work to earn an honest living, when a sneaky plod (hiding in the bushes) with nothing better to do...clocked me doing 48 mph..!!!! 3 points and £60 fine. What a hero...!!!!! Phone them to report that house has been burgaled and none of them even bother to turn up!!!!! They are useless IMHO!!!!![/p][/quote]Errr................ but I thought the speed limit there was 40mph. The policeman was right then. Stop moaning.[/p][/quote]I'm with you Danny. Whilst I agree you were wrong by speeding the Plod do spend a lot of time on the trivial things ie hiding in the bushes at 5.15 in the morning. I friend of mine was also burgled recently... What happened? Nothing. Brainy_G93
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2:28pm Sun 31 Mar 13

PJC says...

My car got stolen and written off by joyriders, had the forensics all over it but nobody caught, also had an almost head on collision with some idiot overtaking at 60+mph and had to swerve onto the roadside. My wife still has a car, but I refuse to drive any more. I've had enough of it. I'll advance book the train or take a bus.
My car got stolen and written off by joyriders, had the forensics all over it but nobody caught, also had an almost head on collision with some idiot overtaking at 60+mph and had to swerve onto the roadside. My wife still has a car, but I refuse to drive any more. I've had enough of it. I'll advance book the train or take a bus. PJC
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3:17pm Sun 31 Mar 13

Hmmmf says...

Brainy_G93 wrote:
the Plod do spend a lot of time on the trivial things ie hiding in the bushes at 5.15 in the morning. I friend of mine was also burgled recently... What happened? Nothing.

And if the burglar had been Dannyboy speeding down Thamesdown Drive at 5.15 in the morning, he'd have been caught and 'Plod' lurking in the bushes wouldn't seem so trivial now, would it, 'Brainy'?
See, titles like "Road Policing Unit", "Neighbourhood Policing Team", "Drugs Squad", "Burglary Squad", "Vice Squad" etc all kind of provide a subtle clue as to the specialised function of the officers in them and the work they do. People really don't need to be brainy to understand that the Road Policing Unit will be, well, policing the roads. And you don't need to be brainy to work out that the early hours of the morning is the best time to detect drunk drivers, drugged drivers, speeders, and yes, typical night-time criminals like burglars in a hurry to get away from their latest score. But hey, down with Plod, they're stupid and don't know anything about crime, eh?
[quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: the Plod do spend a lot of time on the trivial things ie hiding in the bushes at 5.15 in the morning. I friend of mine was also burgled recently... What happened? Nothing.[/quote] And if the burglar had been Dannyboy speeding down Thamesdown Drive at 5.15 in the morning, he'd have been caught and 'Plod' lurking in the bushes wouldn't seem so trivial now, would it, 'Brainy'? See, titles like "Road Policing Unit", "Neighbourhood Policing Team", "Drugs Squad", "Burglary Squad", "Vice Squad" etc all kind of provide a subtle clue as to the specialised function of the officers in them and the work they do. People really don't need to be brainy to understand that the Road Policing Unit will be, well, policing the roads. And you don't need to be brainy to work out that the early hours of the morning is the best time to detect drunk drivers, drugged drivers, speeders, and yes, typical night-time criminals like burglars in a hurry to get away from their latest score. But hey, down with Plod, they're stupid and don't know anything about crime, eh? Hmmmf
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4:06pm Sun 31 Mar 13

Brainy_G93 says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Brainy_G93 wrote:
the Plod do spend a lot of time on the trivial things ie hiding in the bushes at 5.15 in the morning. I friend of mine was also burgled recently... What happened? Nothing.

And if the burglar had been Dannyboy speeding down Thamesdown Drive at 5.15 in the morning, he'd have been caught and 'Plod' lurking in the bushes wouldn't seem so trivial now, would it, 'Brainy'?
See, titles like "Road Policing Unit", "Neighbourhood Policing Team", "Drugs Squad", "Burglary Squad", "Vice Squad" etc all kind of provide a subtle clue as to the specialised function of the officers in them and the work they do. People really don't need to be brainy to understand that the Road Policing Unit will be, well, policing the roads. And you don't need to be brainy to work out that the early hours of the morning is the best time to detect drunk drivers, drugged drivers, speeders, and yes, typical night-time criminals like burglars in a hurry to get away from their latest score. But hey, down with Plod, they're stupid and don't know anything about crime, eh?
Don't try and be funny or clever because you're not. I think you'd be annoyed if you had elderly relatives who were burgled in the middle of the day, with jewellery and childhood momentos stolen and then to have the police do nothing. Still, it's much easier to lurk around in the bushes at 5 in the morning.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: the Plod do spend a lot of time on the trivial things ie hiding in the bushes at 5.15 in the morning. I friend of mine was also burgled recently... What happened? Nothing.[/quote] And if the burglar had been Dannyboy speeding down Thamesdown Drive at 5.15 in the morning, he'd have been caught and 'Plod' lurking in the bushes wouldn't seem so trivial now, would it, 'Brainy'? See, titles like "Road Policing Unit", "Neighbourhood Policing Team", "Drugs Squad", "Burglary Squad", "Vice Squad" etc all kind of provide a subtle clue as to the specialised function of the officers in them and the work they do. People really don't need to be brainy to understand that the Road Policing Unit will be, well, policing the roads. And you don't need to be brainy to work out that the early hours of the morning is the best time to detect drunk drivers, drugged drivers, speeders, and yes, typical night-time criminals like burglars in a hurry to get away from their latest score. But hey, down with Plod, they're stupid and don't know anything about crime, eh?[/p][/quote]Don't try and be funny or clever because you're not. I think you'd be annoyed if you had elderly relatives who were burgled in the middle of the day, with jewellery and childhood momentos stolen and then to have the police do nothing. Still, it's much easier to lurk around in the bushes at 5 in the morning. Brainy_G93
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5:24pm Sun 31 Mar 13

timt1964 says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
I was stopped some time ago on Thamesdown Drive "duel carriageway" at 515 am on my way to work to earn an honest living, when a sneaky plod (hiding in the bushes) with nothing better to do...clocked me doing 48 mph..!!!! 3 points and £60 fine.
What a hero...!!!!!
Phone them to report that house has been burgaled and none of them even bother to turn up!!!!! They are useless IMHO!!!!!
looking at the news today its lucky the heroic pc didnt trip up on the way to your car......
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: I was stopped some time ago on Thamesdown Drive "duel carriageway" at 515 am on my way to work to earn an honest living, when a sneaky plod (hiding in the bushes) with nothing better to do...clocked me doing 48 mph..!!!! 3 points and £60 fine. What a hero...!!!!! Phone them to report that house has been burgaled and none of them even bother to turn up!!!!! They are useless IMHO!!!!![/p][/quote]looking at the news today its lucky the heroic pc didnt trip up on the way to your car...... timt1964
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5:39pm Sun 31 Mar 13

stfcdod says...

If you don't do anything wrong, you don't pay fines and accumulate points. Simple.
If you don't do anything wrong, you don't pay fines and accumulate points. Simple. stfcdod
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10:00pm Sun 31 Mar 13

dannyboy stm says...

Maybe ive been a trifle harsh on the "rozzers".....I was driving at 48 mph on a 40 mph limit dual carriageway,there were no other cars or pedestrians around and the only person I could have hurt was myself (except maybe the plod hiding in the bushes with the speed gizmo!!!Unlikely.)I got caught and paid the price.Done.
I will not do it again but I was angry at being an easy target for the police coffers.
However,when I arrived (late) that morning, a work buddy of mine (hell of a nice lad from Sierra Leone-now a u.k resident) told me that he bought his u.k drivers licience from his local corner store in Glousester...!!!!
I guess that would be a whole new debate altogether!!!!
Maybe ive been a trifle harsh on the "rozzers".....I was driving at 48 mph on a 40 mph limit dual carriageway,there were no other cars or pedestrians around and the only person I could have hurt was myself (except maybe the plod hiding in the bushes with the speed gizmo!!!Unlikely.)I got caught and paid the price.Done. I will not do it again but I was angry at being an easy target for the police coffers. However,when I arrived (late) that morning, a work buddy of mine (hell of a nice lad from Sierra Leone-now a u.k resident) told me that he bought his u.k drivers licience from his local corner store in Glousester...!!!! I guess that would be a whole new debate altogether!!!! dannyboy stm
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12:38am Mon 1 Apr 13

1 2 Could B says...

Ha Ha Ha
13 years of Labour

Ha Ha Ha Ha
Ha Ha Ha 13 years of Labour Ha Ha Ha Ha 1 2 Could B
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9:50am Mon 1 Apr 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

@dannyboy stm

Regardless of how nice a person they are; have you reported them accordingly?

How would you feel if that person caused a accident where someone lost their life..... All because someone was driving illegally in the UK. Their insurance will also be invalid, so what if they crash into your car, will you be happy to foot the bill?
@dannyboy stm Regardless of how nice a person they are; have you reported them accordingly? How would you feel if that person caused a accident where someone lost their life..... All because someone was driving illegally in the UK. Their insurance will also be invalid, so what if they crash into your car, will you be happy to foot the bill? LordAshOfTheBrake
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10:16am Mon 1 Apr 13

dannyboy stm says...

I personally think its horrendous.....but its not my place to enforce the law and grass people up!!!
I personally think its horrendous.....but its not my place to enforce the law and grass people up!!! dannyboy stm
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10:19am Mon 1 Apr 13

house on the hill says...

Danny, sadly that sort of attitude kills people and is typical of todays society. No matter what the road conditions, you dont have the right to choose whether you obey the law or not, if you feel that way about motoring presumably you feel the same about other laws you dont like. The Law isnt pick and mix, you are either law abiding or you are not and clearly you are not. And this "the only person who would have hurt was myself" statement. So say you did crash the car, there would be the emergency services there to clean up the mess, and potentially your ongoing healthcare or worse! then the insurace company would have to pay out, the council would have to mend whatever you hit which may close the road and affect loads of people.

We do live in this double standards world, I bet if someone else had done the same and you had been sat in a queue while they cleaned up the mess making you late for somethnig you would probably be really annoyed and be calling them all the names under the sun. So you think 48mph is ok? why not 49 or 50? where does it stop? if its 3am and its a clear road why not 90mph?

Laws are there to be obeyed all the time not just when you think you dont want to. maybe someone with less money than you thinks its ok to burgle your house, is that ok because he needs the money? So many here moan about judges and the courts, but the real problem is attitudes and double standards. Everyone moaned at celebrities legally "avoiding" tax but are ok with getting jobs done for cash which is illegal or working for cash or buying contraband fags or booze and "evading" tax. And we wonder why the country is in a mess? Because deep down the vast majority dont give a monkeys about anyone but themsleves.
Danny, sadly that sort of attitude kills people and is typical of todays society. No matter what the road conditions, you dont have the right to choose whether you obey the law or not, if you feel that way about motoring presumably you feel the same about other laws you dont like. The Law isnt pick and mix, you are either law abiding or you are not and clearly you are not. And this "the only person who would have hurt was myself" statement. So say you did crash the car, there would be the emergency services there to clean up the mess, and potentially your ongoing healthcare or worse! then the insurace company would have to pay out, the council would have to mend whatever you hit which may close the road and affect loads of people. We do live in this double standards world, I bet if someone else had done the same and you had been sat in a queue while they cleaned up the mess making you late for somethnig you would probably be really annoyed and be calling them all the names under the sun. So you think 48mph is ok? why not 49 or 50? where does it stop? if its 3am and its a clear road why not 90mph? Laws are there to be obeyed all the time not just when you think you dont want to. maybe someone with less money than you thinks its ok to burgle your house, is that ok because he needs the money? So many here moan about judges and the courts, but the real problem is attitudes and double standards. Everyone moaned at celebrities legally "avoiding" tax but are ok with getting jobs done for cash which is illegal or working for cash or buying contraband fags or booze and "evading" tax. And we wonder why the country is in a mess? Because deep down the vast majority dont give a monkeys about anyone but themsleves. house on the hill
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11:00am Mon 1 Apr 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
I personally think its horrendous.....but its not my place to enforce the law and grass people up!!!
Your not being asked to enforce the law, merely report a possible criminal offense. Its that attitude of "grass people up" that is part of the problem.

Just keep your fingers crossed that you are not a victim to one of these illegal drivers.

The problem is not just about the one driver who got his license in a shop, its about the shop and how many they have sold to other drivers too...!
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: I personally think its horrendous.....but its not my place to enforce the law and grass people up!!![/p][/quote]Your not being asked to enforce the law, merely report a possible criminal offense. Its that attitude of "grass people up" that is part of the problem. Just keep your fingers crossed that you are not a victim to one of these illegal drivers. The problem is not just about the one driver who got his license in a shop, its about the shop and how many they have sold to other drivers too...! LordAshOfTheBrake
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7:14pm Mon 1 Apr 13

dannyboy stm says...

I would never grass on anyone......not even you LordAshOfTheBrake. End of.
I would never grass on anyone......not even you LordAshOfTheBrake. End of. dannyboy stm
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7:25pm Mon 1 Apr 13

PJC says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
I would never grass on anyone......not even you LordAshOfTheBrake. End of.
Please don't use the hateful phrase, "End of." It's a crime against the English language! If you suspect someone is breaking the law and you're not reporting it because 'they seem nice enough', then you are virtually aiding and abetting. It's not 'grassing them up', it's your duty as a citizen. How about if they ran over a child? Would you sleep well then?
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: I would never grass on anyone......not even you LordAshOfTheBrake. End of.[/p][/quote]Please don't use the hateful phrase, "End of." It's a crime against the English language! If you suspect someone is breaking the law and you're not reporting it because 'they seem nice enough', then you are virtually aiding and abetting. It's not 'grassing them up', it's your duty as a citizen. How about if they ran over a child? Would you sleep well then? PJC
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7:42pm Mon 1 Apr 13

dannyboy stm says...

Telling tales to the police is not for me.!!!!! Period.
Telling tales to the police is not for me.!!!!! Period. dannyboy stm
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7:50pm Mon 1 Apr 13

PJC says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
Telling tales to the police is not for me.!!!!! Period.
What, even if you'd witnessed a murder?!!!! Don't say 'period' unless you're American too. It's called a 'full stop' here!
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: Telling tales to the police is not for me.!!!!! Period.[/p][/quote]What, even if you'd witnessed a murder?!!!! Don't say 'period' unless you're American too. It's called a 'full stop' here! PJC
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8:07pm Mon 1 Apr 13

dannyboy stm says...

I am a law abiding citizen......I do not sell dodgey documents or ride illegal motorcycles...(what this story is about).
I am also no "tout."
My conscience is clear.
Blame Tony Blair...not me!!!!!!
I am a law abiding citizen......I do not sell dodgey documents or ride illegal motorcycles...(what this story is about). I am also no "tout." My conscience is clear. Blame Tony Blair...not me!!!!!! dannyboy stm
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9:37pm Mon 1 Apr 13

house on the hill says...

No you are not, you think its ok to choose to break the law when it suits you. Tony Blair or any other polititcian for that matter isnt responsible for attitudes, they come from the individual who refuses to take responsibility for thier own actions instead they just blame others, You will be telling us next its McDonalds fault that people are fat!!!!
This blame and excuse culture is pathetic, people need to grow up and take responsibility for their actions the same way they expect others to do the same.
No you are not, you think its ok to choose to break the law when it suits you. Tony Blair or any other polititcian for that matter isnt responsible for attitudes, they come from the individual who refuses to take responsibility for thier own actions instead they just blame others, You will be telling us next its McDonalds fault that people are fat!!!! This blame and excuse culture is pathetic, people need to grow up and take responsibility for their actions the same way they expect others to do the same. house on the hill
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9:53pm Mon 1 Apr 13

PJC says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
I am a law abiding citizen......I do not sell dodgey documents or ride illegal motorcycles...(what this story is about).
I am also no "tout."
My conscience is clear.
Blame Tony Blair...not me!!!!!!
Hang on a minute, you admitted you were driving at 48mph hour on a 40mph road, so you are 'not' a law abiding citizen!
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: I am a law abiding citizen......I do not sell dodgey documents or ride illegal motorcycles...(what this story is about). I am also no "tout." My conscience is clear. Blame Tony Blair...not me!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hang on a minute, you admitted you were driving at 48mph hour on a 40mph road, so you are 'not' a law abiding citizen! PJC
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10:23pm Mon 1 Apr 13

dannyboy stm says...

That was ages ago... im a good boy now....the points are off my licence...have not broken the law since...!!!!
I take full responsibility for my actions and I do nothing illegal!!!
You can not blame me for anything.
My conscience is still clear.
"Full stop."
That was ages ago... im a good boy now....the points are off my licence...have not broken the law since...!!!! I take full responsibility for my actions and I do nothing illegal!!! You can not blame me for anything. My conscience is still clear. "Full stop." dannyboy stm
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8:13am Tue 2 Apr 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

dannyboy stm wrote:
I would never grass on anyone......not even you LordAshOfTheBrake. End of.
Then your are by your own admission a hypocrite.

I suspect what you really mean is "you haven't been caught breaking the law since".

I usually drive within the speed limit using cruise control (even on Thamesdown drive), yet I accept that occasionally I overstep the ,mark; its rare, but it does happen.


Your conscious may be clear now, but what if that person crashes into another vehicle killing the occupants which may include a child just because you failed to report that someone was driving without a valid driving license and therefore without insurance.
[quote][p][bold]dannyboy stm[/bold] wrote: I would never grass on anyone......not even you LordAshOfTheBrake. End of.[/p][/quote]Then your are by your own admission a hypocrite. I suspect what you really mean is "you haven't been caught breaking the law since". I usually drive within the speed limit using cruise control (even on Thamesdown drive), yet I accept that occasionally I overstep the ,mark; its rare, but it does happen. Your conscious may be clear now, but what if that person crashes into another vehicle killing the occupants which may include a child just because you failed to report that someone was driving without a valid driving license and therefore without insurance. LordAshOfTheBrake
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