Bid to cut offences by the mentally-ill

MENTAL health nurses are to be posted in police stations and courts in a bid to reduce re-offending by mentally ill criminals.

The £25m pilot scheme, which is to be tested in 10 areas across England, will mean that people with mental health problems are treated as early as possible, Care and Support Minister Norman Lamb said.

Identifying people with mental health needs who come into contact with the criminal justice system at the earliest possible stage will help to divert them from offending, Mr Lamb said.

He said that too often criminals with mental health problems, learning difficulties or substance misuse issues are only diagnosed once they reach prison.

The majority of people who end up in prison have a mental health problem, a substance misuse problem or a learning disability.

And one in four has a severe mental health illness such as depression or psychosis, a Department Of Health spokeswoman said.

Over the next year, the money will be used to join up police and courts systems with mental health services in Avon and Wiltshire, Merseyside, London, Leicester, Sussex, Dorset, Sunderland and Middlesbrough, Coventry, south Essex and Wakefield.

Mentally ill people, as well as those with substance abuse problems and learning disabilities, will be assessed when they come into contact with police. The information will be shared with officers and the courts to ensure charging decisions take into consideration a person’s health needs, the spokeswoman said.

It will also mean treatment is given sooner, which will help stop re-offending.

If the pilot is successful, it will be rolled out across the rest of the country by 2017.

Mr Lamb said: “We want to help them get treatment as early as possible. “Diverting the individual away from offending and helping to reduce the risk of victims suffering due to offences benefits everyone.

“That’s why we are investing £25m for liaison and diversion services at police services and courts. These will help identify when someone in a police station or involved in court proceedings has mental health problems.

“They can then be referred to the right mental health services and are given the help and support they need.”

Policing Minister Damian Green said: “Police officers should be focused on fighting crimes and people with mental health conditions should get the care they need as early as possible.

“These pilots will not only ensure that happens but will help drive down re-offending by individuals who, with treatment, can recover fully.”

The move follows a scheme which sees nurses on patrol alongside police officers in a bid to improve responses to mental health emergencies.

The pilot mimics schemes established in Leicestershire and Cleveland, which have shown that having nurses on hand can help to reduce the number of mentally ill people taken into custody and reduce demands on police time.

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6:16am Sat 4 Jan 14

HAROLDAMAIO says...

"the" mentally ill? All of us? We are a very broad demographic, surely you do not mean what you wrote.

Harold A. Maio
"the" mentally ill? All of us? We are a very broad demographic, surely you do not mean what you wrote. Harold A. Maio HAROLDAMAIO
  • Score: 5

11:01am Sat 4 Jan 14

Ringer says...

How odd, because mental health charities are always so at pains to tell everyone that the mentally ill are 'just like the rest of us'.
How odd, because mental health charities are always so at pains to tell everyone that the mentally ill are 'just like the rest of us'. Ringer
  • Score: 6

8:20am Sun 5 Jan 14

house on the hill says...

Part of the problem is the Govt's "dont care in the community" policy where they are not looked after as they should be. Many shouldnt be out in the community for their own saftey in the first place
Part of the problem is the Govt's "dont care in the community" policy where they are not looked after as they should be. Many shouldnt be out in the community for their own saftey in the first place house on the hill
  • Score: 11

8:27am Sun 5 Jan 14

Localboy86 says...

More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see
More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see Localboy86
  • Score: -7

9:32am Sun 5 Jan 14

Ringеr says...

Localboy86 wrote:
More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see
So you are saying, publicly, that the mentally ill ARE just like the rest of us?
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see[/p][/quote]So you are saying, publicly, that the mentally ill ARE just like the rest of us? Ringеr
  • Score: 0

9:41am Sun 5 Jan 14

Localboy86 says...

Anybody can suffer from mental health issues at any time
Anybody can suffer from mental health issues at any time Localboy86
  • Score: -3

12:16pm Sun 5 Jan 14

trolley dolley says...

By all means treat the mentally ill but do not use this as an excuse for criminal behaviour.

If a person has committed an offence and it is claimed to be through mental illness, then if the offence is serious they should be detained and treated until they are cured enough to release back into society without risk of reoffending.

The criminal element should be dealt with properly and help given where it is needed, stopping reoffending is the goal but this can only happen if they respond to treatment.

What happens whilst they are being treated or fail to respond.
By all means treat the mentally ill but do not use this as an excuse for criminal behaviour. If a person has committed an offence and it is claimed to be through mental illness, then if the offence is serious they should be detained and treated until they are cured enough to release back into society without risk of reoffending. The criminal element should be dealt with properly and help given where it is needed, stopping reoffending is the goal but this can only happen if they respond to treatment. What happens whilst they are being treated or fail to respond. trolley dolley
  • Score: 8

12:55pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Phantom Poster says...

Ringеr wrote:
Localboy86 wrote:
More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see
So you are saying, publicly, that the mentally ill ARE just like the rest of us?
Well they are certainly like you! You're so schizophrenic that one moment you will make the most extremely crass and bigoted comment (or at least more than normal) and the next claim that it was from someone who "cloned" your account!

Tell me, how does an account get "cloned"? You're the only person I've heard it ever happen to.
[quote][p][bold]Ringеr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see[/p][/quote]So you are saying, publicly, that the mentally ill ARE just like the rest of us?[/p][/quote]Well they are certainly like you! You're so schizophrenic that one moment you will make the most extremely crass and bigoted comment (or at least more than normal) and the next claim that it was from someone who "cloned" your account! Tell me, how does an account get "cloned"? You're the only person I've heard it ever happen to. Phantom Poster
  • Score: 6

5:00pm Sun 5 Jan 14

house on the hill says...

Localboy86 wrote:
Anybody can suffer from mental health issues at any time
you are living proof
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: Anybody can suffer from mental health issues at any time[/p][/quote]you are living proof house on the hill
  • Score: -5

5:03pm Sun 5 Jan 14

house on the hill says...

Ringеr wrote:
Localboy86 wrote:
More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see
So you are saying, publicly, that the mentally ill ARE just like the rest of us?
Dont bother with him Ringer, he is one the worst bigots on here, a typical ignorant cyber bully who think old people should be taken off the roads and basically put down (coffin dodgers I think is his favourite expression). Complete retard.
[quote][p][bold]Ringеr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see[/p][/quote]So you are saying, publicly, that the mentally ill ARE just like the rest of us?[/p][/quote]Dont bother with him Ringer, he is one the worst bigots on here, a typical ignorant cyber bully who think old people should be taken off the roads and basically put down (coffin dodgers I think is his favourite expression). Complete retard. house on the hill
  • Score: -6

5:23pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Localboy86 says...

house on the hill wrote:
Ringеr wrote:
Localboy86 wrote:
More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see
So you are saying, publicly, that the mentally ill ARE just like the rest of us?
Dont bother with him Ringer, he is one the worst bigots on here, a typical ignorant cyber bully who think old people should be taken off the roads and basically put down (coffin dodgers I think is his favourite expression). Complete retard.
I'm sorry that you have to be so bitter
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringеr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: More disgusting comments from the old bigots I see[/p][/quote]So you are saying, publicly, that the mentally ill ARE just like the rest of us?[/p][/quote]Dont bother with him Ringer, he is one the worst bigots on here, a typical ignorant cyber bully who think old people should be taken off the roads and basically put down (coffin dodgers I think is his favourite expression). Complete retard.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry that you have to be so bitter Localboy86
  • Score: -4

8:42am Mon 6 Jan 14

Ringer says...

Localboy86 wrote:
Anybody can suffer from mental health issues at any time
True, but isn't that a bit like saying anybody could be stabbed to death in broad daylight by a person suffering from mental health issues at any time?
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: Anybody can suffer from mental health issues at any time[/p][/quote]True, but isn't that a bit like saying anybody could be stabbed to death in broad daylight by a person suffering from mental health issues at any time? Ringer
  • Score: 4

8:44am Mon 6 Jan 14

RichardR1 says...

Mental illness is clearly alive and well on this forum. This is a serious problem. I in 4 of us each year will suffer some form of mental disorder each year. It is still a stigma and the hostility shown on here clearly highlights that.

However it should not be used as an underlying reason to excuse a criminal offence that would be a matter for the court. However if indeed the disorder was severe enough to remove the persons mens rea no charge would or should be applied according to CPS guidelines.
Mental illness is clearly alive and well on this forum. This is a serious problem. I in 4 of us each year will suffer some form of mental disorder each year. It is still a stigma and the hostility shown on here clearly highlights that. However it should not be used as an underlying reason to excuse a criminal offence that would be a matter for the court. However if indeed the disorder was severe enough to remove the persons mens rea no charge would or should be applied according to CPS guidelines. RichardR1
  • Score: -4

8:48am Mon 6 Jan 14

Ringer says...


I in 4 of us each year will suffer some form of mental disorder each year.


Yes, mental health charities LOVE trying to imply that we're all mentally ill at some point. The problem is that they've expanded the so-called 'definition' so widely that basically if you feel a bit sad for a couple of weeks you're now considered to have mental health issues.
[quote] I in 4 of us each year will suffer some form of mental disorder each year. [/quote] Yes, mental health charities LOVE trying to imply that we're all mentally ill at some point. The problem is that they've expanded the so-called 'definition' so widely that basically if you feel a bit sad for a couple of weeks you're now considered to have mental health issues. Ringer
  • Score: 4

10:01am Mon 6 Jan 14

Davey Gravey says...

I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ? Davey Gravey
  • Score: -3

10:43am Mon 6 Jan 14

Ringer says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time? Ringer
  • Score: 7

11:29am Mon 6 Jan 14

Davey Gravey says...

Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -4

11:33am Mon 6 Jan 14

Ringer says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.[/p][/quote]Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread? Ringer
  • Score: 3

11:41am Mon 6 Jan 14

Davey Gravey says...

Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?
Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.[/p][/quote]Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?[/p][/quote]Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -5

12:24pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Ringer says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?
Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.
Hmmm. Don't believe you.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.[/p][/quote]Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?[/p][/quote]Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. Don't believe you. Ringer
  • Score: 2

1:49pm Mon 6 Jan 14

benzss says...

Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?
Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.
Hmmm. Don't believe you.
He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives.

ho hum.
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.[/p][/quote]Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?[/p][/quote]Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. Don't believe you.[/p][/quote]He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives. ho hum. benzss
  • Score: 0

2:21pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Davey Gravey says...

benzss wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?
Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.
Hmmm. Don't believe you.
He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives.

ho hum.
I don't play with them. End of.
[quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.[/p][/quote]Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?[/p][/quote]Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. Don't believe you.[/p][/quote]He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives. ho hum.[/p][/quote]I don't play with them. End of. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 0

2:43pm Mon 6 Jan 14

benzss says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
benzss wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?
Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.
Hmmm. Don't believe you.
He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives.

ho hum.
I don't play with them. End of.
I don't think you do

And honestly I don't know why Ringer cares so much
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.[/p][/quote]Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?[/p][/quote]Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. Don't believe you.[/p][/quote]He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives. ho hum.[/p][/quote]I don't play with them. End of.[/p][/quote]I don't think you do And honestly I don't know why Ringer cares so much benzss
  • Score: -6

4:57pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Ringer says...

benzss wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
benzss wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?
Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.
Hmmm. Don't believe you.
He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives.

ho hum.
I don't play with them. End of.
I don't think you do

And honestly I don't know why Ringer cares so much
That's just it, I *don't* care! It's always Davey who claims 'somebody' is 'manipulating' the voting. He tends to imply it's me doing it and all I do is continually tell him it's NOT me.

He then says he'll accept down votes as long as they're 'genuine', which implies he STILL thinks they're not.

As you say, NOBODY CARES IN ANY CASE.

Jeez, this is tedious.
[quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.[/p][/quote]Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?[/p][/quote]Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. Don't believe you.[/p][/quote]He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives. ho hum.[/p][/quote]I don't play with them. End of.[/p][/quote]I don't think you do And honestly I don't know why Ringer cares so much[/p][/quote]That's just it, I *don't* care! It's always Davey who claims 'somebody' is 'manipulating' the voting. He tends to imply it's me doing it and all I do is continually tell him it's NOT me. He then says he'll accept down votes as long as they're 'genuine', which implies he STILL thinks they're not. As you say, NOBODY CARES IN ANY CASE. Jeez, this is tedious. Ringer
  • Score: 10

5:50pm Mon 6 Jan 14

trolley dolley says...

I am just beginning to wonder if a mental health nurse should be at the Adver. website to monitor some of these posters.
I am just beginning to wonder if a mental health nurse should be at the Adver. website to monitor some of these posters. trolley dolley
  • Score: -4

6:45pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Localboy86 says...

The thumbs were all normal this morning before I left for work, when I looked again at work ringer had commented and all the thumbs had clearly been manipulated, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who's responsible. The worrying thing is, why would someone go to the hassle of doing it.
The thumbs were all normal this morning before I left for work, when I looked again at work ringer had commented and all the thumbs had clearly been manipulated, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who's responsible. The worrying thing is, why would someone go to the hassle of doing it. Localboy86
  • Score: 1

6:59pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Ringer says...

Localboy86 wrote:
The thumbs were all normal this morning before I left for work, when I looked again at work ringer had commented and all the thumbs had clearly been manipulated, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who's responsible. The worrying thing is, why would someone go to the hassle of doing it.
What do you mean, they were 'normal'?

Don't you and Davey Gravey understand how voting works?

Seriously, what is wrong with you?
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: The thumbs were all normal this morning before I left for work, when I looked again at work ringer had commented and all the thumbs had clearly been manipulated, doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who's responsible. The worrying thing is, why would someone go to the hassle of doing it.[/p][/quote]What do you mean, they were 'normal'? Don't you and Davey Gravey understand how voting works? Seriously, what is wrong with you? Ringer
  • Score: 9

11:10pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Ringеr says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Mental illness is clearly alive and well on this forum. This is a serious problem. I in 4 of us each year will suffer some form of mental disorder each year. It is still a stigma and the hostility shown on here clearly highlights that.

However it should not be used as an underlying reason to excuse a criminal offence that would be a matter for the court. However if indeed the disorder was severe enough to remove the persons mens rea no charge would or should be applied according to CPS guidelines.
Bob, that's a bit rich (excuse the pun), coming from someone who accused anyone as being mentally ill that simply disagreed with your opinion.
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Mental illness is clearly alive and well on this forum. This is a serious problem. I in 4 of us each year will suffer some form of mental disorder each year. It is still a stigma and the hostility shown on here clearly highlights that. However it should not be used as an underlying reason to excuse a criminal offence that would be a matter for the court. However if indeed the disorder was severe enough to remove the persons mens rea no charge would or should be applied according to CPS guidelines.[/p][/quote]Bob, that's a bit rich (excuse the pun), coming from someone who accused anyone as being mentally ill that simply disagreed with your opinion. Ringеr
  • Score: 0

7:41am Tue 7 Jan 14

Ringer says...

Ringеr wrote:
RichardR1 wrote:
Mental illness is clearly alive and well on this forum. This is a serious problem. I in 4 of us each year will suffer some form of mental disorder each year. It is still a stigma and the hostility shown on here clearly highlights that.

However it should not be used as an underlying reason to excuse a criminal offence that would be a matter for the court. However if indeed the disorder was severe enough to remove the persons mens rea no charge would or should be applied according to CPS guidelines.
Bob, that's a bit rich (excuse the pun), coming from someone who accused anyone as being mentally ill that simply disagreed with your opinion.
Very clever 'Ringer'. Again.

Just to let people know, the 'Ringer' that has been posting under my account name is welcome to the name.

NO post under the 'Ringer' name as of this one will have been made by me, I'm setting up another account name - which the **** who has been using my 'Ringer' name won't be able to clone (but will no doubt try).

You'd really think people would have been things to do in these 'hard times', but clearly not. Oh well.
[quote][p][bold]Ringеr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Mental illness is clearly alive and well on this forum. This is a serious problem. I in 4 of us each year will suffer some form of mental disorder each year. It is still a stigma and the hostility shown on here clearly highlights that. However it should not be used as an underlying reason to excuse a criminal offence that would be a matter for the court. However if indeed the disorder was severe enough to remove the persons mens rea no charge would or should be applied according to CPS guidelines.[/p][/quote]Bob, that's a bit rich (excuse the pun), coming from someone who accused anyone as being mentally ill that simply disagreed with your opinion.[/p][/quote]Very clever 'Ringer'. Again. Just to let people know, the 'Ringer' that has been posting under my account name is welcome to the name. NO post under the 'Ringer' name as of this one will have been made by me, I'm setting up another account name - which the **** who has been using my 'Ringer' name won't be able to clone (but will no doubt try). You'd really think people would have been things to do in these 'hard times', but clearly not. Oh well. Ringer
  • Score: -1

9:59am Tue 7 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

In other words,
Your soap box political campaign, with your 'ringer' login has gone stale.

So now you'll be adding yet another login to your repertoire.

Will it be another one poached from the Talk Swindon forum?
Like Bobby Wright for example
In other words, Your soap box political campaign, with your 'ringer' login has gone stale. So now you'll be adding yet another login to your repertoire. Will it be another one poached from the Talk Swindon forum? Like Bobby Wright for example Empty Car Park
  • Score: 4

10:37am Tue 7 Jan 14

benzss says...

Ringer wrote:
benzss wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
benzss wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again?
Who's being a naughty boy ?
Why do you *continually* accuse people of this?

Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things.

Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?
I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators.

Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.
Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?
Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.
Hmmm. Don't believe you.
He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives.

ho hum.
I don't play with them. End of.
I don't think you do

And honestly I don't know why Ringer cares so much
That's just it, I *don't* care! It's always Davey who claims 'somebody' is 'manipulating' the voting. He tends to imply it's me doing it and all I do is continually tell him it's NOT me.

He then says he'll accept down votes as long as they're 'genuine', which implies he STILL thinks they're not.

As you say, NOBODY CARES IN ANY CASE.

Jeez, this is tedious.
I find it hard to believe that 11 people voted your comment up... and mysteriously 8 people voted mine down. How sad.
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wonder who is playing with the thumbs again? Who's being a naughty boy ?[/p][/quote]Why do you *continually* accuse people of this? Actually, given some of the voting on various comments that happened overnight, I'd suggest that it's probably you and/or Empty Car Park that are manipulating things. Don't think I haven't noticed that you vote me down at least 3 or 4 times on just about every post I make, simply out of spite, it would seem. Why do you bother wasting your time?[/p][/quote]I absolutely 100% guarantee I do not vote 3-4 times. Acompletely false accusation. Feel free to make a complaint stating this lie by reporting this post as i'd welcome it investigating by site moderators. Funnily enough the jumps in votes are by about 4 at a time from what i've noticed. Tracking IP addresses should sort out the culprits.[/p][/quote]Have you been playing with the voting again in this thread?[/p][/quote]Absolutely not. I NEVER have done so either. So less of the "again" please.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. Don't believe you.[/p][/quote]He's so good at playing with the voting that most of his comments are in the negatives. ho hum.[/p][/quote]I don't play with them. End of.[/p][/quote]I don't think you do And honestly I don't know why Ringer cares so much[/p][/quote]That's just it, I *don't* care! It's always Davey who claims 'somebody' is 'manipulating' the voting. He tends to imply it's me doing it and all I do is continually tell him it's NOT me. He then says he'll accept down votes as long as they're 'genuine', which implies he STILL thinks they're not. As you say, NOBODY CARES IN ANY CASE. Jeez, this is tedious.[/p][/quote]I find it hard to believe that 11 people voted your comment up... and mysteriously 8 people voted mine down. How sad. benzss
  • Score: 3

10:55am Tue 7 Jan 14

Davey Gravey says...

I think the best thing is to ignore the fool in the future. Everyone can see what is going on and has only made a complete t1t of himself. If people ignore him he might retreat back under his bridge and leave the rest of us along to comment and behave like respectable adults
I think the best thing is to ignore the fool in the future. Everyone can see what is going on and has only made a complete t1t of himself. If people ignore him he might retreat back under his bridge and leave the rest of us along to comment and behave like respectable adults Davey Gravey
  • Score: 3

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