Anger over plan to move blaze rubbish near Penhill

This Is Wiltshire: Coun Mark Dempsey, Paul Baker and Joe Tray protesting about the waste from Averies Recycling being dumped near Penhill. Picture: Thomas Kelsey Buy this photo Coun Mark Dempsey, Paul Baker and Joe Tray protesting about the waste from Averies Recycling being dumped near Penhill. Picture: Thomas Kelsey

RESIDENTS living near the former Groundwell park and ride site came together yesterday to express anger over plans to move waste from the Averies Recycling fire to the site.

Around 60 people protested against the plans announced on Wednesday, which will eventuaally see around half of the non-hazardous waste from the Marshgate base moved to the Swindon Council-owned site.

It will allow firefighters to deal more quickly with the blaze that has been going since July 21.

Firefighters are working with Averies, Swindon Council, NHS England, Wiltshire Police and the Environment Agency to deal with the incident.

Glynis Hales, who lives in Penhill, said: “This plan needs more thought as it was decided by a few individuals and not the full council. The feeling in Penhill is that the council think we are rubbish and that they’re happy to dump rubbish here. I know that might not be the case but that is the feeling.

“I do appreciate that the people living at Marshgate are suffering but the council shouldn’t make both areas suffer.”

Residents are concerned by the affect the waste could have on air quality, nearby water and the wildlife living around the park and ride site.

Nigel Fraser, who lives in Queensfield, said: “I feel bloody angry. It is a private business who the council are putting before residents who live here.”

Motorists beeped in support of the protesters who were waving banners which read “don’t dump waste on our community” and “no fly-tipping”.

Some Swindon councillors also went to the demonstration to back the residents.

Coun Joe Tray (Lab, Penhill and Upper Stratton), said: “This is a fantastic turnout within hours notice and shows the strength of feeling in this community.

Coun Mark Dempsey (Lab, Walcot and Park North), the North Swindon Parliamentary Candidate, said: “If the council do not listen to these people they will be making a huge error.

“The site is not designed or licensed for the storage of waste. I think the authorities should use a specialised site.”

As the park and ride compound is covered by trees, the authorities claim that the waste will be out of sight. All of the burnt waste will be fully extinguished and checked before being taken to the site. It will also be covered over to reduce adverse smells.

In addition to the high perimeter fencing at the compound there will also be 24-hour security.

Once the Marshgate fire is put out the authorities aim to return the waste to Averies.

Coun David Renard, Swindon Council Leader (Con, Haydon Wick), said: “Numerous sites have been considered and this site meets the necessary criteria agreed with partner agencies. Public safety is the number one priority and I can reassure residents that no waste which poses any danger to them will be transferred to the site.”

Averies has repeatedly apologised for the issues that the fire has caused to Swindon’s residents and businesses. North Swindon MP Justin Tomlinson (Con) wants to see the Averies fire extinguished as quickly as possible.

He said: “Frankly, the Environment Agency should be forcing Averies’ insurance to pay for the safe storage of the waste. I’m disappointed that the agency isn’t using the full force of the law to bring this to a swift conclusion for the sake of local residents.”

Concerned residents can attend a meeting at St Peter’s Church Hall, in Penhill, at 7pm tonight.

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8:29am Fri 8 Aug 14

Always Grumpy says...

The Adver seem to be milking this particular topic for all it's worth, with their never ending repeats! It's worse than BBC daytime television.
Is there anything new happening in Swindon to report?
The Adver seem to be milking this particular topic for all it's worth, with their never ending repeats! It's worse than BBC daytime television. Is there anything new happening in Swindon to report? Always Grumpy
  • Score: -8

9:05am Fri 8 Aug 14

BCDR99 says...

I believe there are some bus lane cameras that the Adver seem to have missed reporting.
I believe there are some bus lane cameras that the Adver seem to have missed reporting. BCDR99
  • Score: -2

9:12am Fri 8 Aug 14

Eastcott says...

How is this story any different to this one from yesterday?

http://www.swindonad
vertiser.co.uk/news/
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rotest_against_Averi
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How is this story any different to this one from yesterday? http://www.swindonad vertiser.co.uk/news/ 11396268.Residents_p rotest_against_Averi es_waste_transfer/ Eastcott
  • Score: 8

9:20am Fri 8 Aug 14

BCDR99 says...

It was a rather small scale demonstration with the wrong message.

"Don't put rubbish next to my house" is not going to win anyone any arguments. It has to go somewhere and the people protesting create rubbish as well. If it was in Wanborough or South Marston, the tag NIMBY would have been chucked around very quickly.

The message should have been "This is not a licensed waste handling area and there is a danger to the environment putting waste on this site." The council would not have been able to ignore that one.
It was a rather small scale demonstration with the wrong message. "Don't put rubbish next to my house" is not going to win anyone any arguments. It has to go somewhere and the people protesting create rubbish as well. If it was in Wanborough or South Marston, the tag NIMBY would have been chucked around very quickly. The message should have been "This is not a licensed waste handling area and there is a danger to the environment putting waste on this site." The council would not have been able to ignore that one. BCDR99
  • Score: 12

9:31am Fri 8 Aug 14

Localboy86 says...

This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP
This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP Localboy86
  • Score: 9

9:59am Fri 8 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Take it to a proper disposal site 🙉
Take it to a proper disposal site 🙉 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 7

10:18am Fri 8 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

Localboy86 wrote:
This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP
I think you have hit the nail on the head there. There are so many parties involved all blaming or waiting for each other that in the end nothing actually gets done. As for putting it out I think they explained that they couldn't because that much water would seep into the river and pollute that! All in all a complete shambles but ultimately caused by Averies who should not only foot the bill but also be moved away from any area with housing that close.
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP[/p][/quote]I think you have hit the nail on the head there. There are so many parties involved all blaming or waiting for each other that in the end nothing actually gets done. As for putting it out I think they explained that they couldn't because that much water would seep into the river and pollute that! All in all a complete shambles but ultimately caused by Averies who should not only foot the bill but also be moved away from any area with housing that close. house on the hill
  • Score: 8

11:48am Fri 8 Aug 14

Isthisthebestswindon cando says...

house on the hill wrote:
Localboy86 wrote:
This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP
I think you have hit the nail on the head there. There are so many parties involved all blaming or waiting for each other that in the end nothing actually gets done. As for putting it out I think they explained that they couldn't because that much water would seep into the river and pollute that! All in all a complete shambles but ultimately caused by Averies who should not only foot the bill but also be moved away from any area with housing that close.
All interesting, and valid, points. I guess the blaze needs putting out before the inquisition.

As for the mountain of recycling/rubbish there - well I recycle - I put stuff in the wheelie bin. Maybe we should all think about our role as creators of the waste mountain as well?
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP[/p][/quote]I think you have hit the nail on the head there. There are so many parties involved all blaming or waiting for each other that in the end nothing actually gets done. As for putting it out I think they explained that they couldn't because that much water would seep into the river and pollute that! All in all a complete shambles but ultimately caused by Averies who should not only foot the bill but also be moved away from any area with housing that close.[/p][/quote]All interesting, and valid, points. I guess the blaze needs putting out before the inquisition. As for the mountain of recycling/rubbish there - well I recycle - I put stuff in the wheelie bin. Maybe we should all think about our role as creators of the waste mountain as well? Isthisthebestswindon cando
  • Score: 5

1:36pm Fri 8 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
Localboy86 wrote:
This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP
I think you have hit the nail on the head there. There are so many parties involved all blaming or waiting for each other that in the end nothing actually gets done. As for putting it out I think they explained that they couldn't because that much water would seep into the river and pollute that! All in all a complete shambles but ultimately caused by Averies who should not only foot the bill but also be moved away from any area with housing that close.
All interesting, and valid, points. I guess the blaze needs putting out before the inquisition.

As for the mountain of recycling/rubbish there - well I recycle - I put stuff in the wheelie bin. Maybe we should all think about our role as creators of the waste mountain as well?
Now you are opening a massive can of worms. Maybe we should also look at how the NHS spends tens if not hundreds of £millions on self inflicted illnesses injuries and disabilities while today saying they cant afford a cancer drug to save and/or prolong life. Or if we were a bit less selfish and stupid on the roads how many deaths and serious injuries we could avoid? Lack of responsibility is one of the biggest issues we have in this me me me money driven society.
[quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP[/p][/quote]I think you have hit the nail on the head there. There are so many parties involved all blaming or waiting for each other that in the end nothing actually gets done. As for putting it out I think they explained that they couldn't because that much water would seep into the river and pollute that! All in all a complete shambles but ultimately caused by Averies who should not only foot the bill but also be moved away from any area with housing that close.[/p][/quote]All interesting, and valid, points. I guess the blaze needs putting out before the inquisition. As for the mountain of recycling/rubbish there - well I recycle - I put stuff in the wheelie bin. Maybe we should all think about our role as creators of the waste mountain as well?[/p][/quote]Now you are opening a massive can of worms. Maybe we should also look at how the NHS spends tens if not hundreds of £millions on self inflicted illnesses injuries and disabilities while today saying they cant afford a cancer drug to save and/or prolong life. Or if we were a bit less selfish and stupid on the roads how many deaths and serious injuries we could avoid? Lack of responsibility is one of the biggest issues we have in this me me me money driven society. house on the hill
  • Score: 5

1:47pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Grimsbygal says...

Localboy86 wrote:
This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP
Actually I think you'll find that the Fire Service cannot extinguish the fire at the base of the rubbish until Averies move all of the rubbish which is on top of the fire.....quite hard to put a fire out under about 10 tonnes of waste and believe it or not the Fire Brigade are not paid to hire specialist equipment to remove tonnes of waste. Think about the basics before disrespecting our Firefighters who have been there for the duration breathing in toxic fumes when it should be the waste company removing the hazard first. Well done Swindon Firefighters!!
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP[/p][/quote]Actually I think you'll find that the Fire Service cannot extinguish the fire at the base of the rubbish until Averies move all of the rubbish which is on top of the fire.....quite hard to put a fire out under about 10 tonnes of waste and believe it or not the Fire Brigade are not paid to hire specialist equipment to remove tonnes of waste. Think about the basics before disrespecting our Firefighters who have been there for the duration breathing in toxic fumes when it should be the waste company removing the hazard first. Well done Swindon Firefighters!! Grimsbygal
  • Score: 11

2:17pm Fri 8 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

if this was not so serious you could mistake it as a comedy sketch with SBC and the EA dressed as Roman emperor Nero fiddling whilst Rome burns. reading other reports the EA had the opportunity to close Averies down when they took them to court as they were operating with out a licence. SBC warned them about the amount of waste on site why did they not insist that it was removed then if this was done maybe the fire would not have started. but as always the authorities take the easy option an do nothing. when the fire is out and the dust settled there should be a full public enquiry as to what went wrong and who is to blame for this fiasco
if this was not so serious you could mistake it as a comedy sketch with SBC and the EA dressed as Roman emperor Nero fiddling whilst Rome burns. reading other reports the EA had the opportunity to close Averies down when they took them to court as they were operating with out a licence. SBC warned them about the amount of waste on site why did they not insist that it was removed then if this was done maybe the fire would not have started. but as always the authorities take the easy option an do nothing. when the fire is out and the dust settled there should be a full public enquiry as to what went wrong and who is to blame for this fiasco somwal25
  • Score: 0

2:50pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Isthisthebestswindon cando says...

house on the hill wrote:
Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
Localboy86 wrote:
This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP
I think you have hit the nail on the head there. There are so many parties involved all blaming or waiting for each other that in the end nothing actually gets done. As for putting it out I think they explained that they couldn't because that much water would seep into the river and pollute that! All in all a complete shambles but ultimately caused by Averies who should not only foot the bill but also be moved away from any area with housing that close.
All interesting, and valid, points. I guess the blaze needs putting out before the inquisition.

As for the mountain of recycling/rubbish there - well I recycle - I put stuff in the wheelie bin. Maybe we should all think about our role as creators of the waste mountain as well?
Now you are opening a massive can of worms. Maybe we should also look at how the NHS spends tens if not hundreds of £millions on self inflicted illnesses injuries and disabilities while today saying they cant afford a cancer drug to save and/or prolong life. Or if we were a bit less selfish and stupid on the roads how many deaths and serious injuries we could avoid? Lack of responsibility is one of the biggest issues we have in this me me me money driven society.
I guess it is a massive can or worms, but putting aside your comparison for a moment, I would imagine that when Averies were given the licence for the site Swindon may have been smaller and produced less rubbish. Rubbish is a by product of the consumer society of which we are all a part. Is it lack of responsibility? Maybe.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP[/p][/quote]I think you have hit the nail on the head there. There are so many parties involved all blaming or waiting for each other that in the end nothing actually gets done. As for putting it out I think they explained that they couldn't because that much water would seep into the river and pollute that! All in all a complete shambles but ultimately caused by Averies who should not only foot the bill but also be moved away from any area with housing that close.[/p][/quote]All interesting, and valid, points. I guess the blaze needs putting out before the inquisition. As for the mountain of recycling/rubbish there - well I recycle - I put stuff in the wheelie bin. Maybe we should all think about our role as creators of the waste mountain as well?[/p][/quote]Now you are opening a massive can of worms. Maybe we should also look at how the NHS spends tens if not hundreds of £millions on self inflicted illnesses injuries and disabilities while today saying they cant afford a cancer drug to save and/or prolong life. Or if we were a bit less selfish and stupid on the roads how many deaths and serious injuries we could avoid? Lack of responsibility is one of the biggest issues we have in this me me me money driven society.[/p][/quote]I guess it is a massive can or worms, but putting aside your comparison for a moment, I would imagine that when Averies were given the licence for the site Swindon may have been smaller and produced less rubbish. Rubbish is a by product of the consumer society of which we are all a part. Is it lack of responsibility? Maybe. Isthisthebestswindon cando
  • Score: 6

2:50pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Isthisthebestswindon cando says...

somwal25 wrote:
if this was not so serious you could mistake it as a comedy sketch with SBC and the EA dressed as Roman emperor Nero fiddling whilst Rome burns. reading other reports the EA had the opportunity to close Averies down when they took them to court as they were operating with out a licence. SBC warned them about the amount of waste on site why did they not insist that it was removed then if this was done maybe the fire would not have started. but as always the authorities take the easy option an do nothing. when the fire is out and the dust settled there should be a full public enquiry as to what went wrong and who is to blame for this fiasco
Yes, I believe there should be.
[quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: if this was not so serious you could mistake it as a comedy sketch with SBC and the EA dressed as Roman emperor Nero fiddling whilst Rome burns. reading other reports the EA had the opportunity to close Averies down when they took them to court as they were operating with out a licence. SBC warned them about the amount of waste on site why did they not insist that it was removed then if this was done maybe the fire would not have started. but as always the authorities take the easy option an do nothing. when the fire is out and the dust settled there should be a full public enquiry as to what went wrong and who is to blame for this fiasco[/p][/quote]Yes, I believe there should be. Isthisthebestswindon cando
  • Score: 0

2:56pm Fri 8 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

Isthisthebestswindon cando


i have started a e petition on SBC web site i am just waiting confirmation that its been accepted when it has been i will post the link for everybody who wants to sign it
Isthisthebestswindon cando i have started a e petition on SBC web site i am just waiting confirmation that its been accepted when it has been i will post the link for everybody who wants to sign it somwal25
  • Score: -1

3:03pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Sir Fawn Maker says...

I thought the way the headline is phrased, it was the waste that didn't want to be moved to near Penhill.

There's probably a punchline to go here, but I don't want to break the world record for negative thumbs
I thought the way the headline is phrased, it was the waste that didn't want to be moved to near Penhill. There's probably a punchline to go here, but I don't want to break the world record for negative thumbs Sir Fawn Maker
  • Score: 2

4:16pm Fri 8 Aug 14

silvergran says...

I can't understand why they just don't take it all to land fill in the first place instead of transporting the darn stuff twice!
I can't understand why they just don't take it all to land fill in the first place instead of transporting the darn stuff twice! silvergran
  • Score: 1

5:09pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Localboy86 says...

Grimsbygal wrote:
Localboy86 wrote:
This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP
Actually I think you'll find that the Fire Service cannot extinguish the fire at the base of the rubbish until Averies move all of the rubbish which is on top of the fire.....quite hard to put a fire out under about 10 tonnes of waste and believe it or not the Fire Brigade are not paid to hire specialist equipment to remove tonnes of waste. Think about the basics before disrespecting our Firefighters who have been there for the duration breathing in toxic fumes when it should be the waste company removing the hazard first. Well done Swindon Firefighters!!
If they wernt on strike when this started it may not have even come to this
[quote][p][bold]Grimsbygal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP[/p][/quote]Actually I think you'll find that the Fire Service cannot extinguish the fire at the base of the rubbish until Averies move all of the rubbish which is on top of the fire.....quite hard to put a fire out under about 10 tonnes of waste and believe it or not the Fire Brigade are not paid to hire specialist equipment to remove tonnes of waste. Think about the basics before disrespecting our Firefighters who have been there for the duration breathing in toxic fumes when it should be the waste company removing the hazard first. Well done Swindon Firefighters!![/p][/quote]If they wernt on strike when this started it may not have even come to this Localboy86
  • Score: 4

5:17pm Fri 8 Aug 14

trolley dolley says...

Grimsbygal wrote:
Localboy86 wrote:
This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP
Actually I think you'll find that the Fire Service cannot extinguish the fire at the base of the rubbish until Averies move all of the rubbish which is on top of the fire.....quite hard to put a fire out under about 10 tonnes of waste and believe it or not the Fire Brigade are not paid to hire specialist equipment to remove tonnes of waste. Think about the basics before disrespecting our Firefighters who have been there for the duration breathing in toxic fumes when it should be the waste company removing the hazard first. Well done Swindon Firefighters!!
The fire fighters are suppose to be the experts. It is their job to extinguish this fire.

The fire fighters are not the only people who have been breathing toxic fumes for days, the local people are having to put up with it.

The polluting of the river with extra water run off has to be balanced against the toxic fumes.

Is it asking too much to say to the fire fighters, get on and finish the job.
[quote][p][bold]Grimsbygal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: This incident has been mishandled from the very beginning, I am absolutley furious. This is why I vote for independent councillors who live locally, as they would actually care. Fire fighters have lost my support - do your job and put the f-ing thing out. EA are just as useless as I always thought. Someone take ownership of this and sort it out ASAP[/p][/quote]Actually I think you'll find that the Fire Service cannot extinguish the fire at the base of the rubbish until Averies move all of the rubbish which is on top of the fire.....quite hard to put a fire out under about 10 tonnes of waste and believe it or not the Fire Brigade are not paid to hire specialist equipment to remove tonnes of waste. Think about the basics before disrespecting our Firefighters who have been there for the duration breathing in toxic fumes when it should be the waste company removing the hazard first. Well done Swindon Firefighters!![/p][/quote]The fire fighters are suppose to be the experts. It is their job to extinguish this fire. The fire fighters are not the only people who have been breathing toxic fumes for days, the local people are having to put up with it. The polluting of the river with extra water run off has to be balanced against the toxic fumes. Is it asking too much to say to the fire fighters, get on and finish the job. trolley dolley
  • Score: 9

5:33pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

Surely the time has come to put it out where it is and then deal with the consequences. Damage is and has already been done. Douse the flames and then deal with the clean up. Moving some of it seems a complete waste of time.
Surely the time has come to put it out where it is and then deal with the consequences. Damage is and has already been done. Douse the flames and then deal with the clean up. Moving some of it seems a complete waste of time. Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: 9

6:08pm Fri 8 Aug 14

ctrctr says...

The firemen should have been there on the day the fire started instead of sunbathing out the front of there station (on strike). They have lost a hell of a lot of support from most people . So do the job your paid for and put the fire out.. deal with the mess later.
The firemen should have been there on the day the fire started instead of sunbathing out the front of there station (on strike). They have lost a hell of a lot of support from most people . So do the job your paid for and put the fire out.. deal with the mess later. ctrctr
  • Score: 8

6:29pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Dickdock says...

ctrctr wrote:
The firemen should have been there on the day the fire started instead of sunbathing out the front of there station (on strike). They have lost a hell of a lot of support from most people . So do the job your paid for and put the fire out.. deal with the mess later.
Please tell me if the fireman were on strike and sunbathing, then who did I see fighting the fire, or was it an illusion,
[quote][p][bold]ctrctr[/bold] wrote: The firemen should have been there on the day the fire started instead of sunbathing out the front of there station (on strike). They have lost a hell of a lot of support from most people . So do the job your paid for and put the fire out.. deal with the mess later.[/p][/quote]Please tell me if the fireman were on strike and sunbathing, then who did I see fighting the fire, or was it an illusion, Dickdock
  • Score: -2

6:31pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Dickdock says...

Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote:
somwal25 wrote:
if this was not so serious you could mistake it as a comedy sketch with SBC and the EA dressed as Roman emperor Nero fiddling whilst Rome burns. reading other reports the EA had the opportunity to close Averies down when they took them to court as they were operating with out a licence. SBC warned them about the amount of waste on site why did they not insist that it was removed then if this was done maybe the fire would not have started. but as always the authorities take the easy option an do nothing. when the fire is out and the dust settled there should be a full public enquiry as to what went wrong and who is to blame for this fiasco
Yes, I believe there should be.
Because it was in the interests of SBC to impose a £75K fine, instead of actually doing something about the problem, easy way out
[quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: if this was not so serious you could mistake it as a comedy sketch with SBC and the EA dressed as Roman emperor Nero fiddling whilst Rome burns. reading other reports the EA had the opportunity to close Averies down when they took them to court as they were operating with out a licence. SBC warned them about the amount of waste on site why did they not insist that it was removed then if this was done maybe the fire would not have started. but as always the authorities take the easy option an do nothing. when the fire is out and the dust settled there should be a full public enquiry as to what went wrong and who is to blame for this fiasco[/p][/quote]Yes, I believe there should be.[/p][/quote]Because it was in the interests of SBC to impose a £75K fine, instead of actually doing something about the problem, easy way out Dickdock
  • Score: -3

9:21pm Fri 8 Aug 14

ctrctr says...

Dickdock wrote:
ctrctr wrote:
The firemen should have been there on the day the fire started instead of sunbathing out the front of there station (on strike). They have lost a hell of a lot of support from most people . So do the job your paid for and put the fire out.. deal with the mess later.
Please tell me if the fireman were on strike and sunbathing, then who did I see fighting the fire, or was it an illusion,
They were sunbathing as I drove past .The reserves were sent in (and done there best) , so it wasn't a illusion.
[quote][p][bold]Dickdock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctrctr[/bold] wrote: The firemen should have been there on the day the fire started instead of sunbathing out the front of there station (on strike). They have lost a hell of a lot of support from most people . So do the job your paid for and put the fire out.. deal with the mess later.[/p][/quote]Please tell me if the fireman were on strike and sunbathing, then who did I see fighting the fire, or was it an illusion,[/p][/quote]They were sunbathing as I drove past .The reserves were sent in (and done there best) , so it wasn't a illusion. ctrctr
  • Score: 8

11:44pm Fri 8 Aug 14

John. Wootton Bassett says...

How do so many people manage to protest on a week day? I imagine unemployment is high in Penhill then? Maybe some of these people should join up as firefighters?

Problem solved.

Where do I sign up for prime minster?
How do so many people manage to protest on a week day? I imagine unemployment is high in Penhill then? Maybe some of these people should join up as firefighters? Problem solved. Where do I sign up for prime minster? John. Wootton Bassett
  • Score: 7

11:52pm Fri 8 Aug 14

not one to make assumptions says...

Maybe Justin Tomlinson should have attended the meeting this evening at the St Peters Church Hall because according to the top council guys on the panel he said 'Averies are not required by law to have insurance' !!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Justin Tomlinson should have attended the meeting this evening at the St Peters Church Hall because according to the top council guys on the panel he said 'Averies are not required by law to have insurance' !!!!!!!!!!! not one to make assumptions
  • Score: 3

6:36am Sat 9 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

not one to make assumptions wrote:
Maybe Justin Tomlinson should have attended the meeting this evening at the St Peters Church Hall because according to the top council guys on the panel he said 'Averies are not required by law to have insurance' !!!!!!!!!!!
Who was the "top council guy"? 👀
[quote][p][bold]not one to make assumptions[/bold] wrote: Maybe Justin Tomlinson should have attended the meeting this evening at the St Peters Church Hall because according to the top council guys on the panel he said 'Averies are not required by law to have insurance' !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Who was the "top council guy"? 👀 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Sat 9 Aug 14

trolley dolley says...

Dickdock wrote:
ctrctr wrote:
The firemen should have been there on the day the fire started instead of sunbathing out the front of there station (on strike). They have lost a hell of a lot of support from most people . So do the job your paid for and put the fire out.. deal with the mess later.
Please tell me if the fireman were on strike and sunbathing, then who did I see fighting the fire, or was it an illusion,
Maybe it was a man wearing a yellow helmet with a watering can.

The fire service don't appear to have done much more.
[quote][p][bold]Dickdock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctrctr[/bold] wrote: The firemen should have been there on the day the fire started instead of sunbathing out the front of there station (on strike). They have lost a hell of a lot of support from most people . So do the job your paid for and put the fire out.. deal with the mess later.[/p][/quote]Please tell me if the fireman were on strike and sunbathing, then who did I see fighting the fire, or was it an illusion,[/p][/quote]Maybe it was a man wearing a yellow helmet with a watering can. The fire service don't appear to have done much more. trolley dolley
  • Score: 7

2:45pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Melgee says...

Meanwhile from his sunbed in his Villa in Spain Mr. Averies has apologised to the people of Swindon for what has happened which was completely beyond his control and he assures everybody that everything that can be done by SBC and council tax payers to clear up the mess and put out the fire is being done.
Oh! and the payment cheque for all this expensive work and the health and safety fine from last year is in the post.
Meanwhile from his sunbed in his Villa in Spain Mr. Averies has apologised to the people of Swindon for what has happened which was completely beyond his control and he assures everybody that everything that can be done by SBC and council tax payers to clear up the mess and put out the fire is being done. Oh! and the payment cheque for all this expensive work and the health and safety fine from last year is in the post. Melgee
  • Score: 0

4:12pm Sat 9 Aug 14

mikesgta says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
not one to make assumptions wrote:
Maybe Justin Tomlinson should have attended the meeting this evening at the St Peters Church Hall because according to the top council guys on the panel he said 'Averies are not required by law to have insurance' !!!!!!!!!!!
Who was the "top council guy"? 👀
top council guy ? well It sure wasn't you Ollie that's for sure
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]not one to make assumptions[/bold] wrote: Maybe Justin Tomlinson should have attended the meeting this evening at the St Peters Church Hall because according to the top council guys on the panel he said 'Averies are not required by law to have insurance' !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Who was the "top council guy"? 👀[/p][/quote]top council guy ? well It sure wasn't you Ollie that's for sure mikesgta
  • Score: 2

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