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Revolutionary help for addicts

7:49am Friday 13th April 2007

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ON a Wednesday afternoon in a hall in Trowbridge a small group of people are learning how to administer a life saving drug.

Naloxone is an antidote to opiates and can reverse the effects of a heroin overdose and buy 20 precious minutes before the emergency services arrive.

Wiltshire has become the first place in England to pilot the treatment and substance users who visit a new drop in centre, run by Wiltshire Users Forum and held in the Alabare Christian Care Centre, in Duke Street, Trowbridge, are some of the first to find out more about the antidote.

Mick Webb, of the Wiltshire Drug and Alcohol Action Team, said: "The reason we picked it up is because of our involvement with service users. Every single service user who cares for a drug user wants this.

"We have to accept people take drugs and look at how we can reduce harm. We can't get any message of hope of recovery to a substance user if they are dead."

Naloxone works by reversing the effect of opiates and can be administered by a member of the public if they have received appropriate training.

Mr Webb said it was unlikely drug users would be tempted to take bigger hits because they thought they could fall back on Naloxone if they overdosed.

"The evidence at the trials carried out in Maudsley showed that never happened," he said.

"They didn't use Naloxone as an excuse for a big hit. One reason is it sends them into withdrawal.

In 2003 there were 536 deaths in the UK related to heroin and morphine and despite a Government bid to reduce this by 20 per cent by 2004, this target was not met anywhere except Glasgow, where Naloxone has already been piloted.

The antidote is also widely used in Chicago, USA.

Wiltshire Users Forum chairman Arron Gibbings said: "We are aiming it at the most chaotic people who are out on the streets.

"If we can encourage them to come in for a little bit of basic training on how it works we can engage them so they can see what other treatments are available."

As well as piloting Naloxone training, the weekly drop-in centres in Trowbridge offer a wealth of other information, training and advice to users.

There is the chance for training and the opportunity to build up confidence and gain certificates, which could eventually lead to employment.

People can drop in to use computers, bid for housing, learn about therapies including acupuncture and talk to their peers about their experiences whatever stage of treatment they are at.

The forum was set up under an initiative of the National Treatments Agency and its organisers are mainly former addicts who are able to share their experiences.

Mr Gibbings, 30, was addicted to drugs and alcohol for 19 years before finally getting clean last July following a DTTO (Drug Treatment and Testing Order), issued by the courts.

"It woke me up to change when I entered a structured day care programme," he said.

"I had put so much effort into taking drugs that I didn't know what to do when I got clean.

"Then Mick Webb spoke about the forum and I thought there's something I can put my effort into and put something back into something where I understand where people are coming from."

The forum is also behind the Wiltshire Rural Support Groups, which are run in Trowbridge and Chippenham by Andrew Davidson.

They are mainly geared towards those with alcohol addictions but are not run like fellowships, such as Alcoholics Anonymous and are more about peer support than following 12-step programmes.

"There is a serious problem in Wiltshire. Seven out of 10 people with addictions are addicted to alcohol yet services and referrals are abysmal and it takes longer to get into treatments," said Mr Davidson.

"We provide a safe environment to explore what's going on with their addiction."

The groups run in Bridge House, Trowbridge, on Monday nights and Tuesday nights in The Salvation Army Hall, in Chippenham.


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moaning morgan, Trowbridge says...
9:01am Fri 13 Apr 07

I don't get it.

We (the public) are expected to help drug users WHY?

Maybe we could organise "get out of jail cards" for people who steel cars, mug old ladies and vandilise town centres.


Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder, Wiltshire says...
1:15pm Fri 13 Apr 07

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There is a serious problem in Wiltshire. Seven out of 10 people with addictions are addicted to alcohol
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Guess you missed that fact then 'moaning morgan'! Too eager to mis-interpret the word 'addict'I suspect. If we can get people who are addicted to whatever substance off of it, then it reduces costs all round, NHS, crime, courts etc.
Alcohol ruins more lives than any other mind altering chemical (including the families of the addict), but most people don't get to see that and don't think they have a problem. Neither do they even consider that they are just as 'addicted' as the crack addict/cannabis user/whatever. Snobbery, hypocrisy, call it what you will, but I bet everyone knows someone who drinks more than they should, or who thinks nothing of having a drink and then driving their car.
Just because it's a 'legal drug', doesn't make it less harmful.
Thanks for listening...

misunderstood1, B-o-A says...
4:55pm Fri 13 Apr 07


Well said'Abstinence''
funny isn't it that two out of the top three causes of death in this country are addictions ! no.1 is smoking, No.2 is high blood pressure, and No.3 is Alcohol.But as has been mentioned, this is NOT a well known fact. Also Treatment not criminalisation is the answer.

moaning morgan, Trowbridge says...
6:13pm Fri 13 Apr 07

Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder wrote:
quote
There is a serious problem in Wiltshire. Seven out of 10 people with addictions are addicted to alcohol
quote
Guess you missed that fact then \'moaning morgan\'! Too eager to mis-interpret the word \'addict\'I suspect. If we can get people who are addicted to whatever substance off of it, then it reduces costs all round, NHS, crime, courts etc. Alcohol ruins more lives than any other mind altering chemical (including the families of the addict), but most people don\'t get to see that and don\'t think they have a problem. Neither do they even consider that they are just as \'addicted\' as the crack addict/cannabis user/whatever. Snobbery, hypocrisy, call it what you will, but I bet everyone knows someone who drinks more than they should, or who thinks nothing of having a drink and then driving their car. Just because it\'s a \'legal drug\', doesn\'t make it less harmful. Thanks for listening...
wow, A bit defensive there Abstinence.

In which part of my comment did I mention alcohol????

The article talks about heroin and naloxone, (which can reverse the effects of a heroin overdose).

As far as I'm aware, heroin is illegal, booze is not.

If the govenment are happy to permit the sale of alcohol, they should be prepapred for the consequences, one of which is addiction.

Heroin is not an approved drug. Suppliers do not have the backing and support of the government. Therefore, why should the UK taxpayer help fund the loosers who decide to experiment with those drugs?

misunderstood1, B-o-A says...
7:23pm Fri 13 Apr 07

Hang on Moaning morgan,so you are going to decide whos'e life is worthy to be saved? they drink let them die,they take prescription pills, they die too? we are talking saving lives,do surgeons ask what the patient does?or nurses? There are a lot of reformed addicts and alcoholics who do fantastic work for others and the community, and work full time to help others, just thank your lucky stars you were not born with the problem!! It's a curse

Disillusioned, says...
9:01pm Fri 13 Apr 07

No - you two; 'abstinence' and 'misunderstood' have both missed the point. The article was about training to save drug addicts that have overdosed. Not one mention of alcohol. They're not training people to pick up drunks from the gutter - they're focusing on heroine addicts. So why did you turn it into a debate about addiction in general. Stick to the point of the article please. Heroine is illegal and addicts are scum who make their choice to take the stuff knowing the consequences. We ALL have that choice. No-one is born with that 'curse', unless they are born to an addict in which case they are weaned off it as soon as possible. If they choose to take it - leave them turning blue - you're doing them a favour.

Sympathetic, Holland says...
9:20pm Fri 13 Apr 07

All life is worthy of saving, junk or not.
Many things can happen in somebodys life, which turns them to heroine. Growing up in Britain being one of them, after all 60% of the worlds heroine production is consumed in the UK. Just wait Moaning Morgan, as it's been predicted that in the next couple of years the world will be flooded with cheap heroine and will you turn your back on your loved ones when they get dragged down???
Scum to you maybe but they are all somebodys son, daughter,brother, sister etc. I see you people who write such **** have no other stimulation in life other than sitting in front of the PC knocking out nonsense. Get a Life...

Dearodear, chippenham says...
9:31pm Fri 13 Apr 07

opinions usually have more weight when armed with the facts. what about the harm to families and loved ones when there is a death ? These people, by wanting treatment have made a desicion to step away from the problem. Opiates, as the article talks about , like methadone and morphine are legal. Many deaths are atributed to them. Death usually occurs when things like valium and alcohol are added to the mix, rarely from heroin alone. Naloxone takes the catalist out of the equation.

misunderstood, a long way from where i started says...
10:21pm Fri 13 Apr 07

YES there was mention of alcohol,didn't u read all the article?
You are the one who stands by and watches someone drowning, and asks, have you had any drugs or drink?, and then walks away, i hope none of your children ever have a problem.

talk to crank, trowbridge says...
7:37am Sat 14 Apr 07

I agree with moaning morgan.

Most of you have said that one day this could effect someone in my family. This is correct.

But at present, the biggest killer in my family is cancer. Over the last 15 years, I have lost 7 family members to cancer.

If all members of the public gave one hour a week to help others, I'd rather see the public helping a cancer charity, and not a drop in centre for drug addicts.

dearodear, chippenham says...
8:26am Sat 14 Apr 07

Compassion for anyone suferring loss through cancer. But for the people still ruled by prujudice and ignorance around addiction, ther are over 50000 doctors in this country with addiction problems, please remember this when next visiting your GP

Scott, Trowbridge says...
11:53am Sat 14 Apr 07

misunderstood wrote:
YES there was mention of alcohol,didn\'t u read all the article? You are the one who stands by and watches someone drowning, and asks, have you had any drugs or drink?, and then walks away, i hope none of your children ever have a problem.
I wouldn't watch some druggy drowning.

I'd be far too busy picking up needles and syringes left in the playgrounds.

Every week I find at least one.

As far as I'm concerned, out of everything in this world worth saving, drug users are at the bottom of my list.



ANON, trowbridge says...
11:58am Sat 14 Apr 07

I agree with you moaning morgan.
I think drug users have a choice and if they choose to ruin their lives why should the taxpayer foot the bill. A family member on my partners side nearly ruined our lives because he was hooked on Heroin. Everytime he was arrested by the police he gave my partners details. So the police came knocking on our door to arrest my partner for crimes he did not do. And the worse one was a possible charge of manslaugter. Imagine CID knocking on your door after weeks of surveillance to arrest an innocent person for manslaughter. We had to attend court to get one of the charges removed!!
This person has been in and out of prison and thats what his life will always be. He has been given so much help, support and treatment to get off the stuff but every time he is back on the street he is back on the heroin. Just think of the amount of Tax payers money that has been spent for that one person. It doesnt start with just the treatment, its the crimes, the police time and the prison. Not to mention the distress this has caused us.
I am not saying this about every addict because I expect that there are a minority that want the help and truly want to get off the stuff. This is just my experince with one addict, and it was not pleasant.

DH, Warminster says...
3:16pm Sat 14 Apr 07

I didn't fight in Iraq to help losers in this country.

dearodear, chippenham says...
5:19pm Sat 14 Apr 07

Nobodies asking you to !

Sympathetic, Holland says...
8:01pm Sat 14 Apr 07

DH wrote:
I didn\'t fight in Iraq to help losers in this country.
What did you fight in Iraq for??? To help the biggest losers in the world, the USA.

Sympathetic, Holland says...
8:14pm Sat 14 Apr 07

The root of the problem is British society in general. As I remember Trowbridge was always a centre of decay. Got to laugh at Polbridge residents constantly whining, now over the polish immigrants, was it the same when the west indians came over? Trowbridge was the Glue sniffers capital in the early eighties,face it it's nothing more than a big S**t hole!! you'd be better of emigrating. I did and have'nt even bothered going back. Just like reading this site to see what I'm missing, hah hah!!

misunderstood, nowhere special says...
9:33pm Sat 14 Apr 07

luckily some of the most hard working,trustworthy,caring and unselfish people I.ve met and worked with,have been reformed addicts and alcoholics,who are making a real contribution to society, some get well, some try all their lives, and some dont make it, please dont condemn all, you obviously dont know much about addictions/alcoholism, i have as much trouble accepting all our town Centres being ''Wild West' zones at the weekends, all violence and vomit, they are addicts in waiting !

Jake, Warminster says...
9:14am Sun 15 Apr 07

Sympathetic from Holland- so you have become a migrant worker just like those you dispise! Hypocrit!!!!!!

dearodear, chippenham says...
9:46am Sun 15 Apr 07

Scott wrote:
misunderstood wrote: YES there was mention of alcohol,didn\'t u read all the article? You are the one who stands by and watches someone drowning, and asks, have you had any drugs or drink?, and then walks away, i hope none of your children ever have a problem.
I wouldn't watch some druggy drowning. I'd be far too busy picking up needles and syringes left in the playgrounds. Every week I find at least one. As far as I'm concerned, out of everything in this world worth saving, drug users are at the bottom of my list.
Thanks for the honesty ANON. Good point about needle rubbish. This clearly needs urgent action to sort out.Addicts and alcoholics that have recovered will be the first to admit that they are like tornados ripping through peoples lives, and that simply to stop taking drugs isnt enough. When the tornado stops blowing what happens to all the devastation. Takes years to build any trust up again. A long period of reconstruction is ahead. A cornerstone for recovery is realising that one cant get away with thier s**t anymore.Who better to help than a recovered addict working with another, not buying into into the excuses and justifications, nor the self pity.

Sympathetic, Holland says...
10:00am Sun 15 Apr 07

Jake wrote:
Sympathetic from Holland- so you have become a migrant worker just like those you dispise! Hypocrit!!!!!!
Migrant worker I may be, but am integrated.
I speak fluent Polish,Dutch and German, I don't despise migrant workers but do feel that if your going to live in another country at least learn the language.
And know from experience that the UK has severe social problems that you don't encounter in other european countries, otherwise there would'nt be so much addiction, vomit and violence.

Humble, Trowbridge says...
7:23pm Sun 15 Apr 07

I'm a recovering addict. Thank God there were people there to help me!
My best, most trusted friends (and our house-sitter when we go away) are recovering addicts. Our hellish life experience has given us an unique way of empathizing with- and helping others. We know very well what havoc we created in other peoples' lives. If we want to stay well, we will
use every day in recovery, weighing up the bad times with doing our best today.
"Don't judge a fallen man, before you have been in his shoes".....but for the Grace og God go I.

anonamous, says...
10:56pm Mon 16 Apr 07

May i just say, I was once addicted to cocaine, It was my choice to take it! no-one can make any one do anything they really don't wanna do. I choice to take it knowing the risks (just like anyone else who takes it
!!) I have always worked hard even through my addiction! i pay my taxes and i begrudge paying for wasters to live!! i dont work for some smack head or **** head to get help when they do wrong! when you take drugs its your choice! you learn to live with it or you change it! why should other people have to pay for you???
i never once wanted people to pay for me and everyday i carried around a letter stating that. my choice my consequences. as far as i'm concerned anyone who takes a drug knowing what the effects can be should be held liable!! i dont see why why tax payers should hold the brunt for the none working. drug taking i dont give a **** less foetunate of the tow.

dearodear, chippenham says...
7:57am Tue 17 Apr 07

The irony is, the services mentioned in the article ( lets not forget ) are all ran by volunteers, for free. Carrying a letter around eveyday could be seen as a little strange. Yuo also stated that you where a working taxpayer, addicted to cocaine, which is in complete contradiction to your last comment.

Pete Zahut, Trowbo says...
11:13am Tue 17 Apr 07

I think you will find that the drug doesn't 'ween' users off Heroin, it just makes it safer to use. What has it got to do with 'reformed' addicts? These people are killing themselves. Why do i have to pay towards something for people who took the wrong turning? They got themselves in the problem, not me!

misunderstood, somewhere calm says...
11:05pm Tue 17 Apr 07

It doesn't make heroin safer to use,it can delay death by 20 minutes or so,reformed addicts and alcoholics are the ones that were given the chance,and the help, and took it,without this help there would be very few hard working 'Reformed'addicts alive. yet again you dont have to pay.you are paying far more for Accident and Emergency hospital admissions at weekends due to alcohol,knife crime etc........

dearodear, chippenham says...
10:35am Wed 18 Apr 07

We must accept that substance misuse damages our communities in one way or another. As members of the community we should support any initiative that will reduce this harm. Prison doesnt work, people come out and reoffend. If treatment works, we should be supporting it. As we have the biggest drug problem in Europe, with the 2nd highest number or related deaths, we are left with a choice. 1. we can whinge and it just gets worse. 2. we can look towards solution. Either one costs money so get used to it !

voice of reason, Wiltshire says...
11:08am Wed 2 May 07

I hope if any of my children ever become addicts - someone like these people will reach out to save them. I dont care if that person is a hard working immigrant worker. As for the white middle class teenagers that spit, graffiti and vandalise everything in sight around Wiltshire while trying to talk like cockneys - drug them up, lock them away and burn their baseball caps.

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Mick Webb, left, shows how to administer the antidote Mick Webb, left, shows how to administer the antidote

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