Why aren't the scum on community orders doing this sort of work?

Because Grumpy, that would infringe on their human rights.

Remember, the kids who do the graffiti and dump shopping trolleys into rivers are the real victims. Victims of a society that doesn't care.

Well done to these folks by the way, for getting off their **** and cleaning up the area where they live.

Of course, it may buy a few votes ... Conservative this ... Conservative that!!!

Of course, it may buy a few votes ... Conservative this ... Conservative that!!!

I don't see many Labour Councilors or prospective MP's getting their hands dirty.

They are probably far to busy spoiling the country in other ways.

I bet this will find Its way onto their expense sheet.
Never mind,the new canal will be a bigger and better place to offload your unwanted junk.

thenoose wrote:

Of course, it may buy a few votes ... Conservative this ... Conservative that!!!

I don't see many Labour Councilors or prospective MP's getting their hands dirty. They are probably far to busy spoiling the country in other ways.

Yes Donkey I think you've shot yourself in the foot by trying to turn this into a party political issue.

Your comment has only served to higjlight the sheer lack of any Labour members' involvement.

These guys have done a good job, we should congratulate them.

Why is there still Graffiti all over the park this morning then? I counted 8 people there on sturday as soon as the photoshoot was over they scarpered: I know as I was just about to join them they moved fast though!!!!!!!!!!!

Graffiti is still in Westlea park as predominant as ever

swinetown wrote:
Why is there still Graffiti all over the park this morning then? I counted 8 people there on sturday as soon as the photoshoot was over they scarpered: I know as I was just about to join them they moved fast though!!!!!!!!!!! Graffiti is still in Westlea park as predominant as ever

There was probably only so much that the volunteers could do in the time they had.

Are you going to go back and try and clean some of the graffiti off yourself then Swinetown?

I'm sure someone with your community spirit wouldn't need to wait for a group of volunteers for you to do your bit.

Buster wrote:

swinetown wrote: Why is there still Graffiti all over the park this morning then? I counted 8 people there on sturday as soon as the photoshoot was over they scarpered: I know as I was just about to join them they moved fast though!!!!!!!!!!! Graffiti is still in Westlea park as predominant as ever

There was probably only so much that the volunteers could do in the time they had. Are you going to go back and try and clean some of the graffiti off yourself then Swinetown? I'm sure someone with your community spirit wouldn't need to wait for a group of volunteers for you to do your bit.

I do my bit everyday (without the photoshoot)thankyou. I agree in the two hours they spent there, there wasn't much they could do.

ps I run several groups in the area: so yes I do plenty. Not involved in politics though just residents interests.

Donkey wrote:
Of course, it may buy a few votes ... Conservative this ... Conservative that!!!

Donkey -- Methinks you ar definitely an ****!

malkym wrote:

Donkey wrote: Of course, it may buy a few votes ... Conservative this ... Conservative that!!!

Donkey -- Methinks you ar definitely an ****!

Why has the three letter word **** which is the alternative name for a domesticated Donkey or a person who is being stupid or foolish been censored with four asterisks which indicates a slang swear word used to describe someone's derriere?

malkym wrote:

malkym wrote:

Donkey wrote: Of course, it may buy a few votes ... Conservative this ... Conservative that!!!

Donkey -- Methinks you ar definitely an ****!

Why has the three letter word **** which is the alternative name for a domesticated Donkey or a person who is being stupid or foolish been censored with four asterisks which indicates a slang swear word used to describe someone's derriere?

There you are Adver -you've done it again!!

Hello Everyone, I'm surprised to collect such hatred from my fellow contributors on here today?

I will say that this was a 'Conservative Councillors in West Swindon' initiative as a form of publicity and the Adver just happened to be thereabouts at the right time!!!

Labour Councillors, you will find, have in the recent past and will in the near future, do an identical job of work in their areas, only that if they contacted the Swindon Advertiser about it, the neswpaper would respond with the words ... 'SO WHAT!'

Donkey wrote:
Hello Everyone, I'm surprised to collect such hatred from my fellow contributors on here today? I will say that this was a 'Conservative Councillors in West Swindon' initiative as a form of publicity and the Adver just happened to be thereabouts at the right time!!! Labour Councillors, you will find, have in the recent past and will in the near future, do an identical job of work in their areas, only that if they contacted the Swindon Advertiser about it, the neswpaper would respond with the words ... 'SO WHAT!'

Yeah that'd be right. Afterall no one could ever accuse the Labour party of media manipulation and spin, could they?

I heard a rumour that Donkey is a Labour Councillor - perhaps Donkey could confirm or deny?

As my previous posts were ignored I will state them again. Why is there still loads of Graffitti in Westlea Park today? Why was the clean-up less than 2 hours long? Why did everyone scarper once the photoshoot was over?

Am I the only person who cares about Westlea on this board without politics coming into it?

Seems to me all the replies so far have been political point scoring: very sad indeed. You'd get more respect for actually doing something ( I don't mean a 2 hour photoshoot either).

Used to live in Westlea (Watercrok Mews, opposite the park) and was forever hearing idiots breaking bottles over there. Many times I went across and confronted these small minded idiots.

People just don't care anymore.


Incidentally, if you type arse, not ****, it still prints

Happy days
xx

Answer for SwindonBorn, no I am not a Labour Councillor, I am an ex-Labour Party member as it happens. The thing is, I am also Swindon born and have lived here all my life, and the local newspaper has always been pro Conservative. I do not like to read absolute garbage stories about how marvellous it is for Conservative members to go and do a little clearing up in a stream. This, especially, because the same opportunity was/is not offered to the other political parties when they choose to 'do their bit' for the community.

Stage managed news is always a non event and I am telling it as it is regardless of what wording those certain correspondents insult me with on here.

Incidentally, SwindonBorn, are you a Conservative Councillor? I doubt it because very few, if any are 'Swindon Born'?

swinetown wrote:
As my previous posts were ignored I will state them again. Why is there still loads of Graffitti in Westlea Park today? Why was the clean-up less than 2 hours long? Why did everyone scarper once the photoshoot was over? Am I the only person who cares about Westlea on this board without politics coming into it? Seems to me all the replies so far have been political point scoring: very sad indeed. You'd get more respect for actually doing something ( I don't mean a 2 hour photoshoot either).

That's a very good question.

In one of your earlier posts you said that you were about to join them when they 'scarpered'. Being such a community spirited person, I'm sure that wouldn't have stopped you from doing your bit.......How long did you stay on Saturday to try and clean it up?

Donkey wrote:
Answer for SwindonBorn, no I am not a Labour Councillor, I am an ex-Labour Party member as it happens. The thing is, I am also Swindon born and have lived here all my life, and the local newspaper has always been pro Conservative. I do not like to read absolute garbage stories about how marvellous it is for Conservative members to go and do a little clearing up in a stream. This, especially, because the same opportunity was/is not offered to the other political parties when they choose to 'do their bit' for the community. Stage managed news is always a non event and I am telling it as it is regardless of what wording those certain correspondents insult me with on here. Incidentally, SwindonBorn, are you a Conservative Councillor? I doubt it because very few, if any are 'Swindon Born'?

Donkey, Swindon has grown exponentially over the last 20 years or so, it is therefore not only necessary but, in my opinion, very welcome to see non Swindon-born people involved in local politics.

Thsi is regardless of their political views.

Are you saying that anyone not born in Swindon should leave the running of the town to the likes of you?

Buster wrote:

Donkey wrote: Answer for SwindonBorn, no I am not a Labour Councillor, I am an ex-Labour Party member as it happens. The thing is, I am also Swindon born and have lived here all my life, and the local newspaper has always been pro Conservative. I do not like to read absolute garbage stories about how marvellous it is for Conservative members to go and do a little clearing up in a stream. This, especially, because the same opportunity was/is not offered to the other political parties when they choose to 'do their bit' for the community. Stage managed news is always a non event and I am telling it as it is regardless of what wording those certain correspondents insult me with on here. Incidentally, SwindonBorn, are you a Conservative Councillor? I doubt it because very few, if any are 'Swindon Born'?

Donkey, Swindon has grown exponentially over the last 20 years or so, it is therefore not only necessary but, in my opinion, very welcome to see non Swindon-born people involved in local politics. Thsi is regardless of their political views. Are you saying that anyone not born in Swindon should leave the running of the town to the likes of you?

Regarding the last paragraph ... Not at all, Buster, it was a question to SwindonBorn about his political stance since he asked for mine. Then, 'writing aloud', I described the scenario which apparently exists in Swindon, newcomers want to change the place into some kind of model of whence they came, so they become Conservative Councillors, perhaps?

Have A Nice Day ... I know I will.

This is a local town for local people

Buster wrote:

swinetown wrote: As my previous posts were ignored I will state them again. Why is there still loads of Graffitti in Westlea Park today? Why was the clean-up less than 2 hours long? Why did everyone scarper once the photoshoot was over? Am I the only person who cares about Westlea on this board without politics coming into it? Seems to me all the replies so far have been political point scoring: very sad indeed. You'd get more respect for actually doing something ( I don't mean a 2 hour photoshoot either).

That's a very good question. In one of your earlier posts you said that you were about to join them when they 'scarpered'. Being such a community spirited person, I'm sure that wouldn't have stopped you from doing your bit.......How long did you stay on Saturday to try and clean it up?

If you'd also read my OTHER post in reply to you, you will see that I run various groups within the area. These are ongoing and last more than a 2 hour photoshoot.

Donkey, I am proud to say I was born in Swindon at Princess Margaret Hospital and apart from being away to study, I am proud that Swindon is my home. Yes I am also a Conservative Councillor but only give my personal views on these articles.

swinetown wrote:

Buster wrote:

swinetown wrote: As my previous posts were ignored I will state them again. Why is there still loads of Graffitti in Westlea Park today? Why was the clean-up less than 2 hours long? Why did everyone scarper once the photoshoot was over? Am I the only person who cares about Westlea on this board without politics coming into it? Seems to me all the replies so far have been political point scoring: very sad indeed. You'd get more respect for actually doing something ( I don't mean a 2 hour photoshoot either).

That's a very good question. In one of your earlier posts you said that you were about to join them when they 'scarpered'. Being such a community spirited person, I'm sure that wouldn't have stopped you from doing your bit.......How long did you stay on Saturday to try and clean it up?

If you'd also read my OTHER post in reply to you, you will see that I run various groups within the area. These are ongoing and last more than a 2 hour photoshoot.

I did read your other reply and would summarise them as having criticised these people for not spending long enough, leaving some of the graffiti and for having photographs taken before they left.

I respect the fact that you take part in other activities, but does that give you the right to pour scorn on what these people have done?

I'm not pouring scorn on what they have done. Just asking what exactly it is that they have done on Saturday, as myself and us local residents haven't noticed any difference whastsoever!

swinetown, it was just a photoshoot ... study the clean hands, spotless tool and unstained attire of the prospective Parliamentary candidate in the picture. He probably was told how to pose for the cameraman and not to fall in! Laughable!

The last two comments highlight why the good people of Swindon simply give up. What's the point in trying to make a difference when even voluntary efforts are treated in this way by the apathetic people of Swindon. People who probably spend their weekends watching the X factor.

Donkey wrote:
swinetown, it was just a photoshoot ... study the clean hands, spotless tool and unstained attire of the prospective Parliamentary candidate in the picture. He probably was told how to pose for the cameraman and not to fall in! Laughable!

what do you do for Westlea? Nothing go and have tea with Maggie thatcher you conservative ****

comment was directed at Buster who is obviously some conservative councillor hiding behind an annonymous name that would be more suitable for a dog on an internet forum. Not aimed at you Donkey.

Come on Buster what have you done for Westlea? I haven't seen YOU at any recent action plans yet your quick to judge others, THEN ATTACK/Throw your toys out of the pram when confronted

Buster wrote:
The last two comments highlight why the good people of Swindon simply give up. What's the point in trying to make a difference when even voluntary efforts are treated in this way by the apathetic people of Swindon. People who probably spend their weekends watching the X factor.

Bit of a generalisation? "apathetic" people of Swindon? Typical politician make generalisation and attck the very people who you then expect votes from.

ps: what is this X Factor you speak of? You obviously watch it, I however am to busy working in the community to be able to have the luxury of sitting on an overweight bum watching TV

Donkey wrote:
swinetown, it was just a photoshoot ... study the clean hands, spotless tool and unstained attire of the prospective Parliamentary candidate in the picture. He probably was told how to pose for the cameraman and not to fall in! Laughable!

I know for a fact this was a photoshoot.

Swinetown ignore the dog who didn't6 get his bone: in the same way he ignored your questions: where was he on saturday? watching the X Factor.

Westlea Park was looking bad today; oh and before you comment Buster: get down there and take a look yourself; after all you are commenting on an area you OBVIOUSLY know nowt about.

Buster wrote:
The last two comments highlight why the good people of Swindon simply give up. What's the point in trying to make a difference when even voluntary efforts are treated in this way by the apathetic people of Swindon. People who probably spend their weekends watching the X factor.

Pathetic "voluntary efforts" deserve to be treated in such a way. Adver reported "clean up day" Clean up 15 mins for photoshoot more like it. Buster go to dog training classes and come back when you can pee and poo on a lampost in Westlea park AND (clean up after yourself) then and only then should you comment on an area you know nothing about.

Wow Swinetown, 4 posts in a row directed at me. I do seem to have ruffled your feathers don;t I. You can huff and puff as much as you like, but you are still just one of those people that put down the efforts of others. That is a real shame. Whay not accept that these people tried to make a positive difference, that should be welcomed. The fact that this area is a mess isn't their fault. You just need to accept that.

mavis wrote:

Donkey wrote: swinetown, it was just a photoshoot ... study the clean hands, spotless tool and unstained attire of the prospective Parliamentary candidate in the picture. He probably was told how to pose for the cameraman and not to fall in! Laughable!

I know for a fact this was a photoshoot. Swinetown ignore the dog who didn't6 get his bone: in the same way he ignored your questions: where was he on saturday? watching the X Factor. Westlea Park was looking bad today; oh and before you comment Buster: get down there and take a look yourself; after all you are commenting on an area you OBVIOUSLY know nowt about.

Mavis you really do seem to have lost the plot.

So Westlea park is looking a mess, whose fault is that then? how does the 2 hours of effort put in by these people make them responsible for the state of the park today?

If you had read and UNDERSTOOD my comments on here, you will have seen that I was commenting on those people that were putting down the efforts made by others, not the state of the park. Yes it is a mess, but perhaps you should accept that it may, just may, be a little less messy thanks to the efforts made by these volunteers.

At the end of the day, these people gave up their time to try and help, you can't blame them if the Adver hasn't reported it accurately. But the fact remains that these people at least tried.

As for your very strange comments about dogs and pooing on lamposts, I suggest you take those to your psychiatrist.

What have you done to try and clean up the park?