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Window cleaner's call to stop conmen

Matthew Softley, 39 Matthew Softley, 39

A CONCERNED window cleaner is warning householders they could face expensive legal action if they pay uninsured workers to wash their windows.

Matthew Softley, 39, who trades as the Window Man, says these cleaners can often be much cheaper but can leave residents with extra costs if they cause injury or damage.

He wants to set up a scheme where residents can access the names and contact details of legitimate window cleaners.

He said: “If you have got any offers to clean your house for under £10, I would seriously question them and if they cannot give you satisfactory answers or produce any paperwork, avoid them like the plague.

“The main thing I have been trying to tell people is with these guys there’s no way on earth they are going to have any form of insurance.

“If you have got an uninsured tradesman on your house and they injure a member of the public, the member of the public can sue the householder.

“Also, if an uninsured tradesman is on your house and he wants to put in a claim against you because he has injured himself and he isn’t insured, he can sue the householder.”

Mr Softley said people can ask to see an insurance document, which should state that the worker is insured to clean windows, including with the use of a ladder if that person has a ladder.

He said residents can call the insurance provider to check it is legitimate and still in date. He said people should be particularly wary of window cleaners who do not have contact details and will only be paid in cash.

Mr Softley, of Abbey Meads, said rogue window cleaners are rife across Swindon, but often target vulnerable and elderly people on council estates.

He said: “Some of these guys have got whole areas sewn up and a lot of the people in these areas are just getting ripped off because the quality of the work is disgusting.

“A lot of the old dears who are having this work done, you are trying to poach them but they are absolutely terrified of change or confrontation with anyone. I have been window cleaning for about a year and a half and predominantly a lot of it is on the council estates that this is going on.”

Coun Paul Baker (Lab, Penhill) is backing Mr Softley’s plans for the scheme to protect residents. He said: “Then you know you have a recognised and respectable person doing the job and there’s no fear of anybody, especially elderly people, getting ripped off.”

Comments(7)

Gooey says...
10:11am Tue 30 Aug 11

In other words he's saying let me clean your windows and a not the other cheaper options who are taking my potential customers.

I 2 Could B says...
11:21am Tue 30 Aug 11

@Gooey: I can see what you mean, it does seem a bit like an advert using an undertone of creating a level of fear in the marketplace.

That said, the guy does have a good point. Window cleaning, because anyone can do it, has long been a favoured means for benefit cheats and others to top up their income. All cash payments, establish a little 'sector' (often old people) and you've got a steady, reliable income for a couple of days work per week.

Problem is, no insurance, they're not paying tax and they will often not do a very good job. It is right that elderly and timid people have some level of protection from the scam artists, although how that can actually be provided in reality is anyone's guess.

johnboy207 says...
5:31pm Tue 30 Aug 11

Please correct me if im wrong but whether the cleaner has insurance or not if a member of the public gets hurt they can claim off the occupant anyway cant they? The window cleaner 9 out of 10 times would deny it was his fault and wash his hands with it(please excuse the pun).

windowman1 says...
8:15pm Tue 30 Aug 11

johnboy207 wrote:
Please correct me if im wrong but whether the cleaner has insurance or not if a member of the public gets hurt they can claim off the occupant anyway cant they? The window cleaner 9 out of 10 times would deny it was his fault and wash his hands with it(please excuse the pun).
Well I take on-board all the comments above. I don't really need to advertise with my reputation and customer base and the fact I only work part-time at the moment. I believe in what I have said and this is not about me I want something in place where all window cleaners get a better name and not a bad reputation and are not damaged by these people.
How would you feel if a member of your family got taken to the cleaners by one of these people. How would you feel if some one took your job and never paid there tax etc whilst doing it????????

Chowmai says...
8:24pm Tue 30 Aug 11

johnboy207 wrote:
Please correct me if im wrong but whether the cleaner has insurance or not if a member of the public gets hurt they can claim off the occupant anyway cant they? The window cleaner 9 out of 10 times would deny it was his fault and wash his hands with it(please excuse the pun).
So Johnboy, If the uninsured individual cleaning your windows damages your neighbour’s property you are quite happy to pay extra insurance premiums on your house are you?

And what if you are the injured party and neither the householder or the window cleaner are insured?

To me the idea of having a register of reliable and HONEST tradesman has to be a bonus to householders and must help prevent the more vulnerable amongst us being ripped off by the less than honest who are out there.

johnboy207 says...
9:38pm Tue 30 Aug 11

Chowmai wrote:
johnboy207 wrote: Please correct me if im wrong but whether the cleaner has insurance or not if a member of the public gets hurt they can claim off the occupant anyway cant they? The window cleaner 9 out of 10 times would deny it was his fault and wash his hands with it(please excuse the pun).
So Johnboy, If the uninsured individual cleaning your windows damages your neighbour’s property you are quite happy to pay extra insurance premiums on your house are you? And what if you are the injured party and neither the householder or the window cleaner are insured? To me the idea of having a register of reliable and HONEST tradesman has to be a bonus to householders and must help prevent the more vulnerable amongst us being ripped off by the less than honest who are out there.
Chowmai. I clean my own windows so i dont need a window cleaner and in the event of anyone coming onto my property and getting injured they would be covered by my public liability insurance.

brandy33 says...
8:00am Wed 31 Aug 11

Well I have one of the best window cleaners around and he is fully insured pays his taxes etc. doesnt rip anyone off and does the windows for under £10 I have had knocks at my door asking if I have a window cleaner and do I know if he is insured and He can possible clean your windows under a tenner

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