Cars choke Devizes roads

The only way to save Devizes from traffic congestion and air pollution is to get more people to leave their cars at home and take the bus, according to campaign group Devizes Passengers.

The group says Devizes streets are choked with traffic fumes, with air pollution reaching illegal levels, but people are not using buses because services are not user-friendly.

It is organising a public meeting to discuss the problem. Jasper Selwyn, chairman of Devizes Passengers, said: “For many people, the reason they drive is because the local buses are not a realistic alternative.

“When there is such a big squeeze on Wiltshire Council’s bus budget, the future for public transport might seem bleak.

“Some £260,000 needs to be saved from the subsidised bus services this year, and a further £230,000 from renegotiated bus contracts.

“A silver lining comes in the form of a recent review of local authority practice in cutting bus services. The report (from Passenger Focus) found that if local authorities set up a meaningful dialogue with all parties, especially operators and users, savings could be made.”

The Devizes Community Area Partnership has recently published its Devizes Transport Strategy. When it was approved at the recent meeting of Devizes Area Board, Wiltshire councillor Richard Gamble said air quality problems at Shanes Castle would spread to other points if congestion increased further. He said: “We have public transport links with other towns but those links are rather limited and there is no easy link with the railway network. Buses within the town are also limited.

“We are extremely keen to involve bus users as well as people who do not currently use the bus. We want to find out whether the sorts of solutions that the group comes up with are sufficiently attractive.”

The meeting will take place at the town hall on Wednesday, November 7, at 7.30pm.

Comments(14)

jamiedavey21 says...
4:32pm Thu 25 Oct 12

If there were more frequent buses to main towns/cities such as Swindon, Bath, Salisbury and also late evening bus services then I would happily consider not driving around Devizes.

whatisgoingon says...
5:49pm Thu 25 Oct 12

I use the bus most days,49 bus (Swindon) is late due to the heavy traffic through Devizes.I want to go by train to Southampton from Trowbridge ,but you need to leave Southampton early to link up with the last bus back from Trowbridge,buses need to run later.

Yer Tis says...
6:54pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Ummm
Just one question as most vehicles are passing through to other destinations, what do you do about them. Oh I know when it was suggested a bypass could be built the good people of Devizes fought it hammer and nail.

You had the chance of a solution, you chose to reject it

Daedalus says...
8:00pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Does anyone actually use the local buses within Devizes? Most of the circular route ones I see are empty or are only carrying one or two passengers. In addition, they add to the congestion due to the poorly designed layout of the bus stops in the Market Place. This results in buses stopping in the middle of the road whilst waiting to turn right to get to the bus island, during which the traffic behind them is held up. How about getting rid of all internal buses and see what happens!

cris says...
3:04pm Fri 26 Oct 12

its cheaper to run a car from Market Lavington to Devizes than it is to catch the bus.

Really it is...

need i really say more about this as all things these days come down to cost.

GPNHS bod says...
3:25pm Fri 26 Oct 12

nightmare

GPNHS bod says...
3:29pm Fri 26 Oct 12

I undersatand the A458 is choked as well

wondering why says...
1:14am Sat 27 Oct 12

took the bus today from Devizes to Swindon, 1hr 10 mins set against 30 mins by car. It's just not a viable alternative, 45 mins would be an acceptable timescale.

A bypass linking the A360 and A4361 would help and can't be ignored, but I guarantee it will be ignored.

Phorever says...
10:12am Sat 27 Oct 12

If public transport was cheaper than driving, as convenient as driving, if the buses and taxi's were driven by people that actually took a driving test, instead of cutting their licenses from special packs of cornflakes, then I may consider public transport.

Tulip says...
4:20pm Sat 27 Oct 12

The routes of the town bus are daft. And information about where to catch it in Pan's Lane etc is a bad joke. No wonder buses are poorly used but no point moaning when the group goes to the trouble of giving everyone a chance to have their say. So I'm going.

jasperselwyn says...
5:49pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Buses need to go when and where people need them to. Then they would be used. Why does the 49 always go through Bishop's Cannings, for example? The town bus is not at all user friendly, as it only goes round its loops in one direction. If you need a timetable, you have to pick one up from Scrummylicious in the Market Place. If only we still had our Information Centre!

Tulip says...
1:40pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Completely agree

CutGlass says...
9:43pm Mon 29 Oct 12

GPNHS bod wrote:
I undersatand the A458 is choked as well
Might be a bit busy getting out of Birmingham City centre. Slow moving through Halesowen and The Lye. Stourbridge Ring Road can be exciting if you get in the wrong lane, but once you get past Wollaston the rolling scenery is beautiful, especially around Enville & Six Ashes. Bridgenorth is a bit of a bottleneck. Are you sure you meant the A458?

Don Jones says...
9:26am Tue 30 Oct 12

jasperselwyn wrote:
Buses need to go when and where people need them to. Then they would be used. Why does the 49 always go through Bishop's Cannings, for example? The town bus is not at all user friendly, as it only goes round its loops in one direction. If you need a timetable, you have to pick one up from Scrummylicious in the Market Place. If only we still had our Information Centre!
Well said, Jasper. The BC loop is a right pain in the backside – especially on the way out of Devizes. Not only does it add a few minutes to the journey but the right turn onto the A4361 is an accident waiting to happen. A compromise would be for just the bus from Swindon to go through the village. Anyone who wanted to get to Swindon could then change by Lidl, where there is a pedestrian crossing. Id rise that point (agin) at the meetigbut I can’t make it that night – please pass on my apologies.

I’d challenge an earlier poster’s claims about the times. Their journey might well have taken 70 minutes but there have been roadworks in Devizes, Wroughton and Swindon. Most are gone now so the journey should be back to 50-55 minutes. Sure, it’s quicker to drive but then you’ve got to park and that takes a bit of time too. I’ve worked in the centre of Swindon for most of the last 24 years and I’d put the door-to-desk figures for me at about 45 minutes for the car and an hour for the bus. And then there’s the cost. A daily return is £5.20 but a weekly ticket is £19.50 and a three-monther works out at around £16 a week. You can’t drive and park for that sort of money. I o accept, though, that as I live close t a bus stop in Devizes and work near one in Swindon, it’s relatively easy for me. If I worked on the edge of town and had to change, I’d drive.

Finally, the case for a bypass is not yet proven, IMHO. We’ve never been given proper traffic stats. I reckon that the majority of journeys start &/or finish in Devizes and that lazysoditis is responsible for a fair bit of our congestion.

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