Multi-million pound superstore deal to deliver Wichel centre at last
8:20am Saturday 12th January 2013 in Latest News By David Wiles
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Coun Dale Heenan at the site on the junction of Foxham Way and Mill Lane, Wichelstowe
WAITROSE is set to sign a multi-million pound deal to deliver the planned Wichel-stowe District Centre and kick-start the next phase of home-building.
The 3.5-hectare district centre site, in what will be Middle Wichel, is at fields off Peglars Way and Foxham Way.
But there is outline permission for the site, which includes a convenience store of up to 2,500 square metres net floor space and a car park with 250 spaces.
Swindon Council is to enter into an agreement, subject to planning consent and a sale price being established, to sell the site to a major supermarket, known by the Adver to be Waitrose, which would then develop the canal-front district centre, with its shop as the anchor store.
The authority would use the cash to progress infrastructure works, including associated ecological clearance works, which will help enable the early delivery of the supermarket, unlock immediate housing development for the first 200 homes in Middle Wichel and bring forward the district centre.
Coun Dale Heenan, cabinet member for strategic planning and sustainability, said he hoped the deal would be completed by the end of the month.
The name of the chain would then be announced, and subject to planning approval, work could begin in the summer, with the aim of the store opening by the end of the year.
He said that there were some supermarket chains conspicuous by their absence in Swindon and the deal would mean Swindon-based shoppers of the chain would not have to travel to branches in surrounding towns. The nearest Waitrose stores are in Marlborough and Cirencester.
He said the sale was also key to deliver the key phase of Wichelstowe, which overall has outline planning consent for between 3,800 and 4,500 homes, 12.6 hectares of employment or commercial uses and other retail, mixed use and community uses.
“The idea is that it’s the council’s land that we will sell to the supermarket, so it’s a capital receipt and it’s several million pounds,” he said. “That will then be used to improve the roads and access to other parts of Wichelstowe so we can start building out another 200 houses.
“This deal is the lynch-pin to enable the next phase of Wichelstowe. At the end of the day, it always comes down to money and this is a significant deal. And it makes it more attractive to live in Wichelstowe, but no doubt residents across the town will be using this district centre.”
Coun Garry Perkins, cabinet member for regeneration, said: “The fact the supermarket and the district centre is going forward and there’s investment going into that proves we’re on the right track, even though it has been a little while coming.
“It’s for the whole of Swindon, it’s not just for Wichelstowe. And they obviously see the future of Swindon and they’re willing to invest in it. With the development of Swindon and Muse [town centre plan] and everything else, they can see their customers will be in Swindon.”
Comments(99)
Redhouse Red
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9:14am Sat 12 Jan 13
A john lewis and a waitrose in swinfon - at last
Wichelstowe and the canal will be lovely once finished.
A great shopping and recreational area for all
Just need the football ground redeveloping now...
Oldtownmum
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9:50am Sat 12 Jan 13
Localboy86
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10:08am Sat 12 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:U are so faux posh, ur comments always make me smile, you have to make out ur wealthy in every post. Ur trying to hard love, what's the bet u grew up in a council estate and now u have married up (someone with a job) u look down on ur roots. I've found the wealthier people are the less they talk about it so guessing u drive a BMW and u think that makes u upper class lol
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
RichardR1
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11:19am Sat 12 Jan 13
Perhaps we could know how much Swindon Council has promised them.
Oldtownmum
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11:46am Sat 12 Jan 13
Localboy86 wrote:What a ridiculous comment! I have no council background or 'married up'. I live a normal life and just aspire to more than being a chav and living a chav lifestyle. I'm not from Swindon so maybe see things that those who've never ventured onto the m4 have. Swindon is dated and tired so needs something more than pound shops and the godawful family bargains style stores. What a sad little life you lead, picking apart positive posts. Get a job, get a life. 'Lol'
Oldtownmum wrote:U are so faux posh, ur comments always make me smile, you have to make out ur wealthy in every post. Ur trying to hard love, what's the bet u grew up in a council estate and now u have married up (someone with a job) u look down on ur roots. I've found the wealthier people are the less they talk about it so guessing u drive a BMW and u think that makes u upper class lol
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
Former Kingsdownman
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12:29pm Sat 12 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Good question but how about this for an answer. The link from Old Town into Wichelstowe is very good, it has good access from Wroughton, Bassett and some of the villages to the south of Swindon and if Waitrose want a store in Swindon it will probably be the only place they could build one. Also people who want to shop at Waitrose will travel across town to one.
No dispute about Waitrose coming to Swindon, but this location seems a little bizarre as they are hardly the cheapest.
Perhaps we could know how much Swindon Council has promised them.
Finally despite what some people think, there are those of us who live in East Wichel who not only have jobs, but have good jobs, have mortgages and will use a Waitrose.
Another view
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12:46pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Between this and the slow but ongoing redevelopment of the town centre, Swindon should come out of the recession better than most similar-type towns.
itsamess3
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12:56pm Sat 12 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:There is very little difference in Waitrose pricing-just the quality which does not suit all-being more expensive does not guarantee quality.
No dispute about Waitrose coming to Swindon, but this location seems a little bizarre as they are hardly the cheapest.
Perhaps we could know how much Swindon Council has promised them.
Your jealousy of our council and intonations of foul play show how little you know of other factors that have delayed building works.
One being the near completion of the massive sewer and drainage system and eco projects.
You fail again to read the article as it clearly states the land is being sold to Waitrose-no doubt further announcements will be made in the coming months.
faatmaan
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12:57pm Sat 12 Jan 13
WoodsideLady
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1:01pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:Well your comment has made my mind up, I'm signing out of this site for good today - your snobby criticisms of Swindon and it's residents are beyond belief! If you hate the town that much please feel free to move away............ far far away.
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
Blackmalkin
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1:10pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Former Kingsdownman
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1:12pm Sat 12 Jan 13
faatmaan wrote:Valid concerns and questions but in response to that (a), Waitrose know what they are doing and will not plan a store if it will harm their total business, (b), the Ciren and Marlborough stores always seem full of customers and (c), Waitrose I believe have just announced very good results showing good year on year growth.
whilst different brands of retailers are always welcome in Swindon, this may actually harm the long term future of the stores in Cirencester and Marlborough, this will take the footfall away from these locations and offer less bright future for them, once people experience Waitrose pricing, the only people shopping there in this ongoing downturn in the economy will be the carrier bag brigade, who will acquire their supply of carrier bags and then shop at Aldis/lidle etc.But we wish waitrose well.
Former Kingsdownman
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1:18pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Blackmalkin wrote:I think size wise it is going to be the size of the Old Town Co-Op plus 25% which is a fairly decent size.
Only a convenience store? I was hoping for a proper Waitrose. Through work, I can get a decent discount there. Marlborough or Cirencester are too far to go though.
Apparently the planning permission is for no electrical goods and no clothes so overall the size looks like it will be more Marlborough sized than Ciren.
By the way, I know I should get out more but there was a very informative session about the Wichelstowe district centre development in East Wichel school a few weeks ago.
Tim Newroman
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3:05pm Sat 12 Jan 13
itsamess3 says...
There is very little difference in Waitrose pricing
Very true. Waitrose are no more expensive than Sainsburys or Tescos for the basic shopping requirements. They do offer higher quality options and also carry lines that other supermarkets do not. It's consistently voted the best supermarket chain in the UK - by a wide range of customers.
Frankly, many of those who are anti-Waitrose are the tedious inverted snobs who like to try and bring everything down to the lowest common denominator.
Oldtownmum
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3:13pm Sat 12 Jan 13
WoodsideLady wrote:Good riddance you miserable so and so! I like Swindon and want it to do well. Shame it's born and bred residents are so stuck in a time warp that they fight any attempts at lifting it's image. You really need that chip on your shoulder seeing to.
Oldtownmum wrote:Well your comment has made my mind up, I'm signing out of this site for good today - your snobby criticisms of Swindon and it's residents are beyond belief! If you hate the town that much please feel free to move away............ far far away.
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
RichardR1
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3:33pm Sat 12 Jan 13
'A typical weekly basket, worth £76.86 at Ocado (Waitrose own brand), costs £70.69 at Sainsbury's, £69.43 at Tesco and £65.67 at Asda.
The reality is people are turning to own brand cheaper foods because they have to. Asda's quality and range and their ownership of Aldi and Lidl give them huge market share.
http://money.aol.co.
uk/2013/01/09/how-wi
ll-the-supermarkets-
fare-in-2013/
louisa74
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3:52pm Sat 12 Jan 13
candid friend
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3:54pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Waitrose applied for planning permission , some years ago,on what is now the Park and Ride Site near Nationwide.
This was turned down.
Probably "behind the scenes pressure from the COOP on their Labour Party pals"!
What the impact will be in Cirencester and Marlborough, where many Swindon shoppers go now, is hard to gauge.
In any event the Council got the land free from WCC on the last local government re-organisation.
Some compensation for the millions that Swindon ratepayers paid to WCC to be spend on County Hall, Library in Salisbury, and the like.
S
itsamess3
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3:54pm Sat 12 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Perhaps you should compare the real facts that matter--as a self proclaimed super barman--you would know that for example cheap lime juice is less concentrated hence the flavour is lost.
Let's not let the truth get in the way of the defence of Waitrose, which I have nothing against, however reality is that Waitrose never appears in price comparisons because they are overall more expensive than the top 4, as one small study of 30 everyday items showed.
'A typical weekly basket, worth £76.86 at Ocado (Waitrose own brand), costs £70.69 at Sainsbury's, £69.43 at Tesco and £65.67 at Asda.
The reality is people are turning to own brand cheaper foods because they have to. Asda's quality and range and their ownership of Aldi and Lidl give them huge market share.
http://money.aol.co.
uk/2013/01/09/how-wi
ll-the-supermarkets-
fare-in-2013/
Cheap supermarket foods lack taste as the main ingredients are reduced-or low quality meats in pies etc.
You get what you pay for-simple.
house on the hill
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4:06pm Sat 12 Jan 13
The impact on Ciren and Malrborough will be that those in Swindon who used to go there wont now need to, but with the extra expected people from the Swindon area who will now go there will increase sales for the 3 added together so a good business decison.
the differences between the "weekly basket" are pretty small bearing in mind the average person spends around £50 a week on smoking, drinking and going out and take aways etc, so it is more about what you choose to spend your money on rather than what you earn.
This is really good news and we should all be happy that Swindon is seen as somewhere a major company would want to come to.
darrey80
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5:39pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Phantom Poster
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5:44pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:Remember that some people have read your previous posts, with your snobbish, biased, derisory views on Swindon and its people - so please don't play the martyr!
WoodsideLady wrote:Good riddance you miserable so and so! I like Swindon and want it to do well. Shame it's born and bred residents are so stuck in a time warp that they fight any attempts at lifting it's image. You really need that chip on your shoulder seeing to.
Oldtownmum wrote:Well your comment has made my mind up, I'm signing out of this site for good today - your snobby criticisms of Swindon and it's residents are beyond belief! If you hate the town that much please feel free to move away............ far far away.
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
Oh, and before you make your usual predictable assumption - I don't come from anywhere remotely near Swindon.
Hearditallbefore
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5:57pm Sat 12 Jan 13
dc the 2nd
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6:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13
When I go to tesco's or asda I'm always amazed at how many families seem to treat it as a day out. Kids running around shouting, sneezing on the fruit and veg or screaming because they are on a sugar come-down.
Pompey-Bound
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6:48pm Sat 12 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Why don't you f_ck off now you have moved to Portsmouth there is no need for you to come on this site anymore.
Let's not let the truth get in the way of the defence of Waitrose, which I have nothing against, however reality is that Waitrose never appears in price comparisons because they are overall more expensive than the top 4, as one small study of 30 everyday items showed.
'A typical weekly basket, worth £76.86 at Ocado (Waitrose own brand), costs £70.69 at Sainsbury's, £69.43 at Tesco and £65.67 at Asda.
The reality is people are turning to own brand cheaper foods because they have to. Asda's quality and range and their ownership of Aldi and Lidl give them huge market share.
http://money.aol.co.
uk/2013/01/09/how-wi
ll-the-supermarkets-
fare-in-2013/
Al Smith
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7:02pm Sat 12 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Asda don't own Aldi or Lidl.
Let's not let the truth get in the way of the defence of Waitrose, which I have nothing against, however reality is that Waitrose never appears in price comparisons because they are overall more expensive than the top 4, as one small study of 30 everyday items showed.
'A typical weekly basket, worth £76.86 at Ocado (Waitrose own brand), costs £70.69 at Sainsbury's, £69.43 at Tesco and £65.67 at Asda.
The reality is people are turning to own brand cheaper foods because they have to. Asda's quality and range and their ownership of Aldi and Lidl give them huge market share.
http://money.aol.co.
uk/2013/01/09/how-wi
ll-the-supermarkets-
fare-in-2013/
Lidl: The company's full name is Lidl Stiftung & Co. KG. It belongs to the holding company Schwarz Gruppe, which also owns the store chains Handelshof and hypermarket Kaufland.
Aldi: Karl Albrecht retains ownership of Aldi Süd, there are two Aldi's Nord and Süd (we have Süd).
Anyway, glad to see Waitrose opening a store, more competition is a good thing. The location doesn't surprise me (I think I once stated that this is where it'd open), it's close to the money in places like Old Town, Broome Manor, Lakeside and Lawn.
Pompey-Bound
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7:16pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Oldtownmum
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8:24pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Phantom Poster wrote:Dear oh dear..... I've posted approx 4 comments on this site but this will be the last as I've come to realise it's only for social inadequates. You sit on your PCs b*tching and sniping like a bunch of old women trying to pick arguments with people. It's obviously not for anyone who wants to make an intelligent comment. Just a bunch of losers who have no one else to talk to. You've really proved the image of Swindonians to be right (slow hand clap). I actually like living in Swindon and want it to do well. Shame.
Oldtownmum wrote:Remember that some people have read your previous posts, with your snobbish, biased, derisory views on Swindon and its people - so please don't play the martyr!
WoodsideLady wrote:Good riddance you miserable so and so! I like Swindon and want it to do well. Shame it's born and bred residents are so stuck in a time warp that they fight any attempts at lifting it's image. You really need that chip on your shoulder seeing to.
Oldtownmum wrote:Well your comment has made my mind up, I'm signing out of this site for good today - your snobby criticisms of Swindon and it's residents are beyond belief! If you hate the town that much please feel free to move away............ far far away.
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
Oh, and before you make your usual predictable assumption - I don't come from anywhere remotely near Swindon.
Always Grumpy
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8:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13
dc the 2nd wrote:I don't lile the chavvy brat kids either (Asda appears full of them especially - why aren't they at school I often wonder), but I'm also not too keen on the tweedy dressed old biddies that seem to crawl around the Cirencester Waitrose - it's a bit like the Old Town Co-op with better accents. Some of them are a complete menace and a danger to other store users.
I love waitrose because its not filled with your horrible chavvy brat kids. I will happily pay extra for that.
When I go to tesco's or asda I'm always amazed at how many families seem to treat it as a day out. Kids running around shouting, sneezing on the fruit and veg or screaming because they are on a sugar come-down.
Let's hope the new store has a better car park than Cirencester. The problem with the new store though is it's the wrong side of Swindon for me.
klempner69
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9:30pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Ian13
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9:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13
klempner69 wrote:There is a Toby cavery in Haydon Wick
Congrats Waitrose from me..any chance we could have a Toby Carvery too one day?
Redhouse Red
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10:20pm Sat 12 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:A few pointers,
Let's not let the truth get in the way of the defence of Waitrose, which I have nothing against, however reality is that Waitrose never appears in price comparisons because they are overall more expensive than the top 4, as one small study of 30 everyday items showed.
'A typical weekly basket, worth £76.86 at Ocado (Waitrose own brand), costs £70.69 at Sainsbury's, £69.43 at Tesco and £65.67 at Asda.
The reality is people are turning to own brand cheaper foods because they have to. Asda's quality and range and their ownership of Aldi and Lidl give them huge market share.
http://money.aol.co.
uk/2013/01/09/how-wi
ll-the-supermarkets-
fare-in-2013/
Ocado is not, nor has ever been Waitrose 'own brand'. They were in partnership with Waitrose when ocado (a very seperate conpany) launched. Approx two years ago Waitrose sold their shares in ocado. Ocado still have an agreement to sell Waitrose products. However They are now very much in competition.
Any price analysis will show Waitrose will be matched to tesco on all branded products. The extra cost will likely be on meat products, they pay the farmer a fair price and the animals get to see the light of day and likely sourced in the uk - this costs more. and the other will be alcohol - where Waitrose, unlike others don't sell below cost price.
Finally asda don't own aldi or lidl, they did buy netto in 2010 for about 700m pounds.
adver
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10:41pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Davey Gravey
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9:06am Sun 13 Jan 13
female resident
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9:32am Sun 13 Jan 13
darrey80
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11:06am Sun 13 Jan 13
female resident wrote:Couldn't agree more. The masterplan lacks improvement of the town centre itself, lots of surrounding parts such as railway corridor, North Star etc but the main streets = nothing. Union Square may be the catalyst though. Parade and much of regent st, fleet st needs bulldozing.
It will be nice for people to have more choice - Waitrose are poor for some items but excellent for meat and other treats (and the origins of these items is clear unlike Aldi & Lidl which are excellent for some other items). Alas, it won't improve the town centre, but nothing ever has, even in the late 80's when the town was up and coming some nice shops came to Swindon for a while but didn't get enough trade to stay for long. Until there is something culturally attractive about the place the centre will not be the first choice for visitors or locals.
Betty Bo
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11:29am Sun 13 Jan 13
Davey Gravey
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11:57am Sun 13 Jan 13
Davey Gravey
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12:05pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Melgee
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1:57pm Sun 13 Jan 13
For those who have commented against Waitrose as a high priced Supermarket then it's quite simple don't shop there.
house on the hill
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2:20pm Sun 13 Jan 13
What it has done is created jobs, given shoppers more local choice and shown that big retailers will still come to Swindon, not sure what there is to moan about there, but then there are some who would still moan if they won a £million because it wasnt £2million.
Phantom Poster
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2:35pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:Please read your previous posts on other threads - you'll find that there are a lot more than four! Most were spiteful posts about how much money you have (thanks to your husband) and how superior you are to born and bred Swindonians (as you've done again in this post).
Phantom Poster wrote:Dear oh dear..... I've posted approx 4 comments on this site but this will be the last as I've come to realise it's only for social inadequates. You sit on your PCs b*tching and sniping like a bunch of old women trying to pick arguments with people. It's obviously not for anyone who wants to make an intelligent comment. Just a bunch of losers who have no one else to talk to. You've really proved the image of Swindonians to be right (slow hand clap). I actually like living in Swindon and want it to do well. Shame.
Oldtownmum wrote:Remember that some people have read your previous posts, with your snobbish, biased, derisory views on Swindon and its people - so please don't play the martyr!
WoodsideLady wrote:Good riddance you miserable so and so! I like Swindon and want it to do well. Shame it's born and bred residents are so stuck in a time warp that they fight any attempts at lifting it's image. You really need that chip on your shoulder seeing to.
Oldtownmum wrote:Well your comment has made my mind up, I'm signing out of this site for good today - your snobby criticisms of Swindon and it's residents are beyond belief! If you hate the town that much please feel free to move away............ far far away.
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
Oh, and before you make your usual predictable assumption - I don't come from anywhere remotely near Swindon.
Just out of curiosity - how can you tell whether a person who posts here is a born and bred Swindonian?
I also think it best if that were to be your last post here as you are obviously a pathetic losers who can dish it out but can't take it back! But maybe born and bred Swindonians have more backbone than you (saying that objectively, as I'm not one!)
dinger76
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5:26pm Sun 13 Jan 13
dinger76
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5:27pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Fartim Poster
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6:13pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Big deal.
I don't have a problem with it but, except for locals, I think anyone overjoyed by its' arrival needs to get out more.
house on the hill
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8:35pm Sun 13 Jan 13
As to the previous poster asking why not a store that everyone can afford to use, as you said there is a mix of housing on the estate so whatever you put there wouldnt please everyone. Clearly other supermarkets didnt think it worth their while and Waitrose did.
Redhouse Red
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8:35pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Fartim Poster wrote:Save me driving 15 miles to Cirencester to do my weekly shop. So yes I'm delighted!
It's just ANOTHER supermarket.
Big deal.
I don't have a problem with it but, except for locals, I think anyone overjoyed by its' arrival needs to get out more.
Ifyoudontlikeswindon-move!
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10:10pm Sun 13 Jan 13
sums it up !
People that live here do so because it's still cheaper it's safer (still very low crime rates) and still has jobs (just) also M4 corridor means nothing is too far away. Really - if you don't like Swindon or its people go and live in Oxford or Cheltenham ....ahhhh but you can't because actually you're not as well off as you like to think or brag about. So appreciate Swindon because you're stuck with it !!!!
Fair play to Waitrose - Lets hope their new store can offset some of the Honda casualties.
Ifyoudontlikeswindon-move!
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10:14pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Fartim Poster
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10:53pm Sun 13 Jan 13
I have lost count of the number of posts on here moaning how Swindon is dying and the town centre it just one big charity shop/ pound store and now we are not happy that Waitrose has come to town
It's not going "in the town" is it.
Did you miss the part where I stated i don't have a problem with it
Just don't feel the need to start flag waving
Oldtownmum
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8:14am Mon 14 Jan 13
southside7
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9:17am Mon 14 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:Couldn't resist another look eh?
Thought I'd check one last time how twisted your knickers are! The people on this site are truely laughable. I have never claimed to be wealthy, my post said there are wealthy families who'd like Waitrose, not that I'm am wealthy.I have never said I dislike Swindon. I said it has a reputation as a dull town and it has. My heinous crime is to say Asda is full of chavs, which is a known fact nationwide. You should all be ashamed really as you act like a bunch of bullying school children when someone new joins. I assume many of you have a chip on your shoulder as I live in Old Town. If I'd called myself Pinehurst Mum I'd probably have been welcomed into your ridiculous clique. Carry on your snidey back biting. It's entertaining but I won't be lowering myself to respond in future.
Davey Gravey
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10:02am Mon 14 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:I'm in no clique but you're clearly a snob from your comments on this site. Its clear to all so get off your high horse. You sh1t and p1ss the same as everyone else.
Thought I'd check one last time how twisted your knickers are! The people on this site are truely laughable. I have never claimed to be wealthy, my post said there are wealthy families who'd like Waitrose, not that I'm am wealthy.I have never said I dislike Swindon. I said it has a reputation as a dull town and it has. My heinous crime is to say Asda is full of chavs, which is a known fact nationwide. You should all be ashamed really as you act like a bunch of bullying school children when someone new joins. I assume many of you have a chip on your shoulder as I live in Old Town. If I'd called myself Pinehurst Mum I'd probably have been welcomed into your ridiculous clique. Carry on your snidey back biting. It's entertaining but I won't be lowering myself to respond in future.
A.Baron-Cohen
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10:08am Mon 14 Jan 13
benzss
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10:52am Mon 14 Jan 13
RichardR1
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10:52am Mon 14 Jan 13
But I guess that wouldn't suit the ranters.
As for Waitrose, yes the price match with branded items but the overall price matching done, but Asda and co is all items, so a truly reflection would be to price match against Asda who seem to be streets ahead on price.
Having a Waitrose may fill a void, who knows. My point was never about that merely what the inducement/rate payers money was.
Tim Newroman
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11:31am Mon 14 Jan 13
Fartim Poster wrote:It's not a question of being 'overjoyed', it's a question of, finally, having the option of using a different supermarket without having to travel 12 to 15 miles outside of the town.
It's just ANOTHER supermarket.
Big deal.
I don't have a problem with it but, except for locals, I think anyone overjoyed by its' arrival needs to get out more.
How can it bad news to have more choice, especially when that choice is an award winning company that is known for being at the higher quality end of the market?
The new Waitrose will be within a mile's travelling distance for me, and will become the closest proper (ie, not Co-Op) supermarket for me. I'm really pleased about it opening and becoming a nearby option, as are others, clearly.
If there are people who don't like/can't afford the new supermarket, fine, they can continue to go to the numerous Asdas, Tescos, Lidls, Aldis, Morrisons and Sainsburys that the town already has.
For the life of me, I cannot understand why some people seem so bitter and twisted simply because one Waitrose store is opening here.
itsamess3
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11:32am Mon 14 Jan 13
As usual you are accusing our council of wrongdoing without a shred of proof.
Your motivation comes from pure jealousy that you have never come close to getting your foot through their doors.
Time you realised you know very little and cannot get basic facts right.
What part of Waitrose purchased the land from the council do you not understand?
Still About
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12:44pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Did you miss the bit where I said I don't have a problem with it?
Davey Gravey
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12:59pm Mon 14 Jan 13
itsamess3 wrote:How is your court case vs Richard-robfm coming along?
"Having a Waitrose may fill a void, who knows. My point was never about that merely what the inducement/rate payers money was.”
As usual you are accusing our council of wrongdoing without a shred of proof.
Your motivation comes from pure jealousy that you have never come close to getting your foot through their doors.
Time you realised you know very little and cannot get basic facts right.
What part of Waitrose purchased the land from the council do you not understand?
Davidsyrett
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1:14pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Davidsyrett
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1:14pm Mon 14 Jan 13
house on the hill
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1:45pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Tim Newroman
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1:57pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Still About wrote:Firstly, who is 'Olive'?
Again Olive,
Did you miss the bit where I said I don't have a problem with it?
Secondly, I was responding to posts by Fartim Poster - who twice said he didn't have a problem with it.
Now I'm sure that Fartim Poster and Still About aren't actually the same person, Jason, and it must simply be a case of the website's software playing up, rather than one person being logged in under one of their many different accounts and then accidentally replying from the wrong one.
It would seem that Empty Car Park and Fartim Poster are definitely Still About.
RichardR1
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1:59pm Mon 14 Jan 13
So my question remains, is this going to be another give away like the Union Street development.
Tim Newroman
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2:00pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Davidsyrett wrote:It's incredible, isn't it? That a shop that some people think is expensive and 'posh' ruffles so many feathers.
I thought the class system was supposed to be a thing of the past? Not according to this thread.
If people don't like it or don't wish to shop there... surely it's simply a question of not going there.
To actively seem to not want Waitrose to open in Swindon seems like a case of quite astonishingly self-defeating inverted snobbery.
Old Town
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2:28pm Mon 14 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Honestly - SHUT UP AND GO AWAY !
Ah the famous Nuclear Scientists crystal ball strikes again. Now I may be wrong here, but I think, 'Swindon Council is to enter into an agreement, subject to planning consent and a sale price being established, to sell the site to a major supermarket, known by the Adver to be Waitrose' means that no price has been agreed for the land, but I could be mistaken.!!!!!!!!
So my question remains, is this going to be another give away like the Union Street development.
Nobody cares about you, or what you have to say - especially now you have moved away - you just cant leave it can you ?
Everyone is sick to death of you coming on here trying to hijack threads just because you failed miserably in your attempts to become a council member.
In case you didn't realise this - the world does NOT revolve around you !
Back to thread - it's great that Waitrose is finally coming to town, a nice change from the usual "low end" supermarket in Swindon - the only (selfish) problem I have is that I'm worried it's going to obscure my perfect view from my back window !!!
itsamess3
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4:22pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Davey Gravey wrote:Not very bright are you?
itsamess3 wrote:How is your court case vs Richard-robfm coming along?
"Having a Waitrose may fill a void, who knows. My point was never about that merely what the inducement/rate payers money was.”
As usual you are accusing our council of wrongdoing without a shred of proof.
Your motivation comes from pure jealousy that you have never come close to getting your foot through their doors.
Time you realised you know very little and cannot get basic facts right.
What part of Waitrose purchased the land from the council do you not understand?
Ifyoudontlikeswindon-move!
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5:56pm Mon 14 Jan 13
I jealous because you live in old town ??? Not at all - I actually live in Broome Manor -so what? I don't care where people live what they do or have - be happy - life is too short to be bitter.
ManWithCar
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6:04pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Plain truth is - Waitrose wouldn't even consider building and trading in Wichelstowe without years of planning, market research etc. No retailer will ever put down roots without making sure they can turn a profit for at least 50% over the term of their lease, or until they pay off the land purchase. They're not building because SBC has asked them to - they're doing it to make a profit.
No one is being forced to shop there. I see plenty of posts from people on this site saying they prefer to shop in Bath, Bristol or Reading etc - so what's your problem? Don't like it when some people exercise their right to free speech and their opinion?
klempner69
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7:00pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Ian13 wrote:I know that of course but its too far from me in Wroughton!
klempner69 wrote:There is a Toby cavery in Haydon Wick
Congrats Waitrose from me..any chance we could have a Toby Carvery too one day?
Ifyoudontlikeswindon-move!
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7:18pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Davey Gravey
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7:18pm Mon 14 Jan 13
itsamess3 wrote:No need for insults in response to my question. Just wondered how it was progressing.
Davey Gravey wrote:Not very bright are you?
itsamess3 wrote:How is your court case vs Richard-robfm coming along?
"Having a Waitrose may fill a void, who knows. My point was never about that merely what the inducement/rate payers money was.”
As usual you are accusing our council of wrongdoing without a shred of proof.
Your motivation comes from pure jealousy that you have never come close to getting your foot through their doors.
Time you realised you know very little and cannot get basic facts right.
What part of Waitrose purchased the land from the council do you not understand?
Phantom Poster
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7:19pm Mon 14 Jan 13
itsamess3 wrote:Davey Gravey asked a very reasonable question, following on from the many, many irrelevant rambling posts which you made in the past regarding your threatened court case against Bob Feal-Martinez (has he started a libel case against you yet?)
Davey Gravey wrote:Not very bright are you?
itsamess3 wrote:How is your court case vs Richard-robfm coming along?
"Having a Waitrose may fill a void, who knows. My point was never about that merely what the inducement/rate payers money was.”
As usual you are accusing our council of wrongdoing without a shred of proof.
Your motivation comes from pure jealousy that you have never come close to getting your foot through their doors.
Time you realised you know very little and cannot get basic facts right.
What part of Waitrose purchased the land from the council do you not understand?
Why have you insulted Davey Gravey by saying that he is "not very bright"? Isn't such an insult against the terms and conditions of this web site? Can we now look forward to "itsamess4"? You must be going for that banned record on this web site! You'll soon be on to "itsamess99"!
Phantom Poster
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7:44pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:So you are so, so superior to everyone here (check what you've posted), but just want to "check one last time". So who's really laughable now then?
Thought I'd check one last time how twisted your knickers are! The people on this site are truely laughable. I have never claimed to be wealthy, my post said there are wealthy families who'd like Waitrose, not that I'm am wealthy.I have never said I dislike Swindon. I said it has a reputation as a dull town and it has. My heinous crime is to say Asda is full of chavs, which is a known fact nationwide. You should all be ashamed really as you act like a bunch of bullying school children when someone new joins. I assume many of you have a chip on your shoulder as I live in Old Town. If I'd called myself Pinehurst Mum I'd probably have been welcomed into your ridiculous clique. Carry on your snidey back biting. It's entertaining but I won't be lowering myself to respond in future.
Please check your previous posts before accusing people of bullying you.
I know that your husband earns lots of money. Why would I know that unless you boasted that fact here? Oh, that was when you enthralled us all with your so humorous play on words - 'chavsda', in relation to Jermaine!
What is so, so laughable is that you think that people have a chip on their shoulder because you live in Old Town! Oh my god, you really ought to use the M4 and get out a bit more!
I love the fact that you will obviously be really fuming that my response has put you totally in your place, but you can't reply as your last post was your "last time".
STFCSTFC
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8:20pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:yeah these poor wealthy people with nowhere to shop at the mo gutting! I shop at tesco probably still will even if waitrose is on my doorstep, l as i don't realy want to waste my dosh on something i dont need- I suppose this means I am a chav! but then Chav/Weathly people some good, some bad - i guess u probably fit the later.
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
STFCSTFC
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8:20pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Oldtownmum wrote:yeah these poor wealthy people with nowhere to shop at the mo gutting! I shop at tesco probably still will even if waitrose is on my doorstep, l as i don't realy want to waste my dosh on something i dont need- I suppose this means I am a chav! but then Chav/Weathly people some good, some bad - i guess u probably fit the later.
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
LocalBob80
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9:18pm Mon 14 Jan 13
I can afford it and may well do so but it is just another supermarket.
That is all
Some people need to get over themselves.
Phantom Poster
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10:05pm Mon 14 Jan 13
STFCSTFC wrote:Couldn't we have a "wealth-aid" concert in Swindon to support people such as "oldtownmum", who can find anywhere posh enough to shop in?
Oldtownmum wrote:yeah these poor wealthy people with nowhere to shop at the mo gutting! I shop at tesco probably still will even if waitrose is on my doorstep, l as i don't realy want to waste my dosh on something i dont need- I suppose this means I am a chav! but then Chav/Weathly people some good, some bad - i guess u probably fit the later.
This is just what swindon needs. There are lots of wealthier families in the area who until the last year or so have not been catered to at all. Swindon is a town of pound stores and tat. With the new John Lewis and Next stores, things are finally looking up. Waitrose will help draw other bigger names in as well hopefully.
semitonic
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10:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Oh dear, you have to laugh at old Robbo, he may pretend to be someone else (who could blame him given his history on here) but he can never really pull it off because he always 'reverts to type', as he would say, by accusing anyone who points out he is wrong as being a troll.
O dear the trolls have come out to play again. I apologise if my facts were wrong. I would simply point out I provided the source, perhaps people should contact the author of the piece.
But I guess that wouldn't suit the ranters.
As for Waitrose, yes the price match with branded items but the overall price matching done, but Asda and co is all items, so a truly reflection would be to price match against Asda who seem to be streets ahead on price.
Having a Waitrose may fill a void, who knows. My point was never about that merely what the inducement/rate payers money was.
Pull the other one Robbo!
itsamess3
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10:33pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Why have you insulted Davey Gravey by saying that he is "not very bright"? Isn't such an insult against the terms and conditions of this web site? Can we now look forward to "itsamess4"? You must be going for that banned record on this web site! You'll soon be on to "itsamess99"!”
On your occassional visits you spend most of your time making personal attacks against others rather than the article. Likewise you take up the sword on behalf others- not very bright' refers to raising things with no bearing on the article.
Banned? I like many amend my login and password.
In your eagerness to try to disrupt the article you fail to see that this development will re-start stalled building works and open up employment possibilities which are much needed.
Phantom Poster
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10:40pm Mon 14 Jan 13
itsamess3 wrote:yeeeessssss..... please keep taking the medication!
Davey Gravey asked a very reasonable question, following on from the many, many irrelevant rambling posts which you made in the past regarding your threatened court case against Bob Feal-Martinez (has he started a libel case against you yet?)
Why have you insulted Davey Gravey by saying that he is "not very bright"? Isn't such an insult against the terms and conditions of this web site? Can we now look forward to "itsamess4"? You must be going for that banned record on this web site! You'll soon be on to "itsamess99"!”
On your occassional visits you spend most of your time making personal attacks against others rather than the article. Likewise you take up the sword on behalf others- not very bright' refers to raising things with no bearing on the article.
Banned? I like many amend my login and password.
In your eagerness to try to disrupt the article you fail to see that this development will re-start stalled building works and open up employment possibilities which are much needed.
Phantom Poster
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10:59pm Mon 14 Jan 13
itsamess3 wrote:You really do yourself no favours: "I like many amend my login and password"
Davey Gravey asked a very reasonable question, following on from the many, many irrelevant rambling posts which you made in the past regarding your threatened court case against Bob Feal-Martinez (has he started a libel case against you yet?)
Why have you insulted Davey Gravey by saying that he is "not very bright"? Isn't such an insult against the terms and conditions of this web site? Can we now look forward to "itsamess4"? You must be going for that banned record on this web site! You'll soon be on to "itsamess99"!”
On your occassional visits you spend most of your time making personal attacks against others rather than the article. Likewise you take up the sword on behalf others- not very bright' refers to raising things with no bearing on the article.
Banned? I like many amend my login and password.
In your eagerness to try to disrupt the article you fail to see that this development will re-start stalled building works and open up employment possibilities which are much needed.
So you are now on "itsamess4"! Wow!
itsamess3
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11:36pm Mon 14 Jan 13
LocalBob80
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7:26am Tue 15 Jan 13
Are you from a competitor media company?
Bobfm ,
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7:49am Tue 15 Jan 13
Bobfm ,
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7:50am Tue 15 Jan 13
Tim Newroman
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8:22am Tue 15 Jan 13
Bobfm , wrote:Bobfm - Well done.
No, they are from the Tory
LocalBob80 - what a brilliantly ironic post, considering your login name is based on the same mentality as all of your others: 1 2 Could B, Fartim Poster, Still About etc.
It's really only Empty Car Park that showed any minor glimpse of originality, all of your other names simply make the same very bad attempt at weird versions of other contributors' login names.
And why is it that I suspect Bobfm and LocalBob80 very much know each other?
Cue the denials...
Anyway, back on topic: Waitrose is coming to Swindon, it's a good thing and it's a good, award winning supermarket. Great news for those who've been hoping for a more accessible store, apparently not good news for those who claim they have no intention of shopping there in anycase.
Oh well.
Davey Gravey
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10:04am Tue 15 Jan 13
itsamess3 wrote:Liar. Log in names cannot be amended. You created a new log in identity. As usual you become nasty and Dodge the issue when presented with something you can't worm your way out of. Not very bright are you?
Davey Gravey asked a very reasonable question, following on from the many, many irrelevant rambling posts which you made in the past regarding your threatened court case against Bob Feal-Martinez (has he started a libel case against you yet?)
Why have you insulted Davey Gravey by saying that he is "not very bright"? Isn't such an insult against the terms and conditions of this web site? Can we now look forward to "itsamess4"? You must be going for that banned record on this web site! You'll soon be on to "itsamess99"!”
On your occassional visits you spend most of your time making personal attacks against others rather than the article. Likewise you take up the sword on behalf others- not very bright' refers to raising things with no bearing on the article.
Banned? I like many amend my login and password.
In your eagerness to try to disrupt the article you fail to see that this development will re-start stalled building works and open up employment possibilities which are much needed.
Coolhandkeith
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11:43am Tue 15 Jan 13
I have never read such a back stabbing load of twaddle in all my life I am glad it's just wait rose coming and not fortnum and mason they say that folk in Swindon are among the most miserable in the country judging by all these comments " case proven" wake up Swindon rich -poor- workers -non workers black -white why don't we all start singing from the same hymn sheet and be kind to one and all
LadyElizabeth79
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6:08pm Tue 15 Jan 13
Also I actually find waitrose cheaper than tesco and Asda. I do however prefer to spend the extra bit of money on fuel to get to waitrose for several reasons... Two of them being
I have never seen someone without a child park in a mother and baby space
And I have never been crashed in to with a trolley and not had an apology.
Food shopping is a chore and in my opinion I would rather get it done as stress free as possible.
Now back to the article.....
LocalBob80
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8:43pm Tue 15 Jan 13
And why is it that I suspect Bobfm and LocalBob80 very much know each other?
Cue the denials
Wow you really think your important.
It is none of your business wether Bobfm and I know each other.
Feel free to post the links where I have ever denied being anyone on these threads.
If Bobfm's assessment is correct and you truly are a representative of The Tory Party I feel sorry for you.
Is a local rag comments section the summet of your campaign
Contrary to boosting their campaign you only portray them as being deceitful, dictating, and averse to allowing everyday people the right to free discussion and opinion.
You really are nothing special
Tim Newroman
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7:49am Wed 16 Jan 13
LocalBob80 says...
If Bobfm's assessment is correct and you truly are a representative of The Tory Party I feel sorry for you.
Rather unsurprisingly, Bobfm's assessment is entirely incorrect. Judging from his/her posts, I don't think he/she is the sharpest.
As for the rest of your post - kind of doesn't make any sense given that I have absoutely nothing to do with the Tory party.
BTW, how does my posting here prevent others from 'the right to free discussion and opinion'? If you have internet access and can type, I really fail to see how anyone can stop you posting your opinion. Indeed, you just did it.
RichardR1
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3:26pm Wed 16 Jan 13
As for Waitrose, no deal signed and no confirmation it is them, therefore no story really.
LadyElizabeth79
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3:29pm Wed 16 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Agreed this means that the 90+ comments arguing over weather you are posh enough for waitrose or Chevy enough for Asda is totally pointless
I suspect the absent barman where ever he is, and assuming he does read these threads id probably laughing his socks off, at those who despite him leaving Swindon can't help mentioning him, it must have been unrequited love.
As for Waitrose, no deal signed and no confirmation it is them, therefore no story really.
Davey Gravey
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7:22pm Wed 16 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:We all know who you are. Bob feal Martinez. You fool nobody apart from yourself
I suspect the absent barman where ever he is, and assuming he does read these threads id probably laughing his socks off, at those who despite him leaving Swindon can't help mentioning him, it must have been unrequited love.
As for Waitrose, no deal signed and no confirmation it is them, therefore no story really.
itsamess3
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8:38am Fri 18 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Strange--as Waitrose have announced they have agreed terms for 2 sites in the west. Obviously the Adver picked it up from the news agencies.
I suspect the absent barman where ever he is, and assuming he does read these threads id probably laughing his socks off, at those who despite him leaving Swindon can't help mentioning him, it must have been unrequited love.
As for Waitrose, no deal signed and no confirmation it is them, therefore no story really.
EmmBee
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12:26pm Fri 18 Jan 13
And I have never been crashed in to with a trolley and not had an apology. "
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Perhaps - but you have never shopped in a Waitrose located in Swindon either!
SockPuppet says...
8:34am Sat 12 Jan 13