Claire Perry, MP for Devizes - Same sex marriage is a move to be supported
12:00pm Thursday 7th February 2013 in Latest News
This week’s activities ranged from internet safety to the armed forces but were dominated by the debate over same gender marriage.
Last Wednesday, I met Britain’s leading internet service providers to hear more about their plans for family-friendly filters.
The good news is that the industry has made huge progress in recognising the problem and by the end of this year they will all offer products that allow us to protect all internet-enabled devices in the home with ‘one-click’ filtering which will be a massive step forward.
Much more needs to be done on age verification and access but there is a real willingness to move forward that is very welcome.
On Friday, I spent the day at Trenchard Lines, Upavon, discussing plans for Army 2020, reviewing the local military-civilian partnership and seeing the exceptional kit and training now offered to support our ISTAR efforts (Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition, and Reconnaissance).
From there it was off to an advice surgery in Great Bedwyn where the issue of marriage came up again. There have been so many myths propagated about the proposal that it has been quite difficult to have a real debate about the heart of the matter and so I have posted a ‘myth buster’ on my website to try and sort out the facts.
This proposal is to allow couples of the same gender to marry in a civil setting, not in church and churches cannot be compelled to marry such couples under UK law. There is no facility under European law to allow Europe to overrule us on this. No teacher can be sacked for refusing to endorse this change or for refusing to tell pupils about this form of union. But ultimately it comes down to fairness and I think it is fair to allow as many people as possible to marry regardless of race, colour or sexual orientation.
Marriage is the bedrock of our society and anything that strengthens it is to be supported and this move will strengthen, not weaken, marriage. I reach this view as a practising Christian and it is one shared by our Bishop, the Rt Rev Nicholas Holtam.
I support this legislation, although the irony of the matter is that urgent Government business required me to miss the vote on the Second Reading of the Bill on Tuesday. I have appreciated the communications from my constituents on this issue – both sides of the argument have been represented without rancour and helped me reach my decision.
Comments(42)
Old retired bloke
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1:31pm Thu 7 Feb 13
notscot
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2:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Old retired bloke wrote:Probably not.
I couldn't care less whether gay people can get married or not. What I object to is the amount parliamentry time this has occupied when there are clearly more important issues to resolve. Oh yeah, and does this equality extend to allowing hetrosexual couples to have a civil partnership if they wish?
shed
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8:51pm Thu 7 Feb 13
she didn't vote due to being elsewhere on "urgent Government business".
handy that, so she hasn't upset her pal call me Dave, she hasn't upset the sodomites, she hasn't upset the electorate and in future if it comes back to bite her on the bum, she wasn't just sitting on the fence here, she was on the other side of the field altogether.
So, room to jump either way, if need be.
She's one to watch this girl, a tactician of the Blair kind.
Meanwhile I wonder if she would care to publish the proportion for/against letters she has received on this matter?
xgaygreg
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10:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13
shed
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10:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13
you weren't "gay" you were a sodomite and a pervert.
Now you are just nuts.
2013 and superstitious nonsense is still thriving.
There's no hope.
SJAnder
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12:43am Fri 8 Feb 13
shed wrote:Bring on the wedding!
yeah right.
you weren't "gay" you were a sodomite and a pervert.
Now you are just nuts.
2013 and superstitious nonsense is still thriving.
There's no hope.
It's about time Britain caught up with the century..
lordbuckethead
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1:02am Fri 8 Feb 13
ps - 'gaygreg' keep taking the pills
shed
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9:35am Fri 8 Feb 13
SJAnder wrote:Is that a proposal?
shed wrote:Bring on the wedding!
yeah right.
you weren't "gay" you were a sodomite and a pervert.
Now you are just nuts.
2013 and superstitious nonsense is still thriving.
There's no hope.
It's about time Britain caught up with the century..
FromTheWirral
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10:02am Fri 8 Feb 13
shed
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10:49am Fri 8 Feb 13
FromTheWirral wrote:you are assuming then that SJAnder is male?
Methinks Shed protest too much, come out of the closet, the air is clearer...
it might be your preference, I make no judgement.
FromTheWirral
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11:31am Fri 8 Feb 13
Hope that clears that up.
thelittlemorgan
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2:00pm Fri 8 Feb 13
You really must find a way of getting help. Being so repressed must be very hard to live with each day.
It really doesn't matter that you like watching 'those' clips on the internet...and nobody can see your abuse of a cucumber on a Saturday night with a glass of sherry.
Be brave, be bold. Come out of the closet.
shed
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3:31pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Yep sodomites, thats the proper name for a man who sticks his penis into another mans anus.
Not 'Gay'
Not homosexual,
but perverted. ie un-natural (and queer.)
So can we get back to discussing smirkys evasion tactics?
Or are you her gay stormtroopers?
FromTheWirral
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3:51pm Fri 8 Feb 13
FromTheWirral
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4:10pm Fri 8 Feb 13
shed
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5:06pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Neither of them feel the need for some sham "marriage" nor do they need to feel a need to shove their lifestyle in every ones face.
Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?
elfwyn
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6:46pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Old retired bloke
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8:18pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Shed - what about a hetrosexual man who puts his penis into a woman's anus? And what about homosexual men who do not engage in sodomy? Your arguements are flawed.
FTW - I think your assumption may be correct!
shed
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10:38pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Old retired bloke wrote:Absolutely nothing to do with the original post, all this is a diversionary tactic,typical of noisy lefty minorities eager to ram their peculiar lifestyle into everyone's face.
Elfwyn - have you actually read this thread?
Shed - what about a hetrosexual man who puts his penis into a woman's anus? And what about homosexual men who do not engage in sodomy? Your arguements are flawed.
FTW - I think your assumption may be correct!
That practice is no less unsavoury whoever does it, or with what gender
But that's not the topic here the subject is the evasionary tactics of an an ambitious and manipulative politician.
None of you in your eagerness to promote or defend a disgusting practice are able or willing to answer the question I asked earlier
"Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?"
notscot
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7:58am Sat 9 Feb 13
shed wrote:That kind of poison you can't hide - so no - I don't believe you have any gay friends.
Having a couple of "gay" friends, believe or not, I am aware that being homosexual is necessarily a requirement to commit sodomy.
Neither of them feel the need for some sham "marriage" nor do they need to feel a need to shove their lifestyle in every ones face.
Now back to the smirker, what is your Gay opinion of the fact that while she is all for gay "marriage" she evidently does not have the guts to stand up and be counted? presumably so it does not affect her rabid ambitions?
Basic fact - men DON'T have to be a homosexual to engage in anal sex.
The world isn't flat, either.
You're a bit of a throwback, shed. Hopefully if you have any offspring they have only a diluted form of your hatred. But I think they're more likely to be embarrassed by it.
shed
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10:31am Sat 9 Feb 13
Old retired bloke
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10:40am Sat 9 Feb 13
shed
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11:08am Sat 9 Feb 13
Old retired bloke wrote:Bang on Old retired bloke.
I think the woman is a power hungry, political lightweight who hs bought her way into parliament and will do anything to get her picture in the paper. However, I believe she will rise to great heights within the Tory party.
At least two of us can see through this person we have been lumbered with for Devizes constituency.
She is fond of any opportunity to get her smug mug into the media, but can you think of one connected directly to this constituency?
Can anyone come up with any one thing she has done for Devizes constituency and area?
Any campaign that relates to Devizes constituency that is not directly connected to her hunger for political advancement?
My point in my original post before it got hijacked was to highlight the self serving manner in which she avoided taking any direct stance on the Gay marriage issue by being 'elsewhere' for the vote. neither for nor against, in order to placate both sides, not even abstaining in order not to go against her puppet master Dave.
Its cynical opportunism worthy of Blair.
Lets hope she gets her come-uppance at the next election, but I fear you are right Old retired bloke.
Ancram was a far better MP who would get involved in local issues.
notscot
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12:29pm Sat 9 Feb 13
shed wrote:Amazing -when your ancient and ridiculous view on homosexuality is met with dissent - you snipe about others' inability to stick to the actual subject of the item. Not just a throwback - bit of a hypocrite, too.
Well, as long as the sodomite vote stays with smirky Perry, it will have been worth it.
Meanwhile back in the real world of normal decent folk... with real concerns about the world around them.............
shed
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3:43pm Sat 9 Feb 13
My view on homo's is my own, as I am entitled to hold, and I do not force it on others as others are trying to force theirs on me.
I am sick of these gays, homos queers what ever you wish to call them parading their sick perversions about as some kind of social benefit to us all.
If they wish to follow their odd life choice behind closed doors that's up to them, Let them keep all of it in their respective closets.
So there you are Notscot.
Have I made myself clear?
I presume you are one of them, most lefties are.
If you are so keen to stand up for them I suggest you do it , for exaple,on the Stormfront site where you will get a really robust debate.
Now what are your views on the Perry smirker?
notscot
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4:34pm Sat 9 Feb 13
shed wrote:You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you.
The article was about granting certain privileges to a minority section of society and the evasion tactics of our rabidly ambitious MP.
My view on homo's is my own, as I am entitled to hold, and I do not force it on others as others are trying to force theirs on me.
I am sick of these gays, homos queers what ever you wish to call them parading their sick perversions about as some kind of social benefit to us all.
If they wish to follow their odd life choice behind closed doors that's up to them, Let them keep all of it in their respective closets.
So there you are Notscot.
Have I made myself clear?
I presume you are one of them, most lefties are.
If you are so keen to stand up for them I suggest you do it , for exaple,on the Stormfront site where you will get a really robust debate.
Now what are your views on the Perry smirker?
THEN you do the usual - accuse every dissenter of being what you're afraid of - in the hope it will embarass them into silence, like a child.
An idiot child.
shed
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6:08pm Sat 9 Feb 13
What you always do is come on in the middle of somene elses and proceed to add your hysterical insults everywhere; always the same hysterical phrases but in a varied order, and you always end up calling someone an idiot.
You are the a typical leftie student fanatic who is forever howling down other speakers, while ranting about freedom of speech,we see you ANL and similar deluded fools shouting and screaming your bile all the time, hopefully getting well thrashed by the police.
Please produce figures to back up your assertion that the "rest of humanity does not feel as I do"
Now, what are your views on the Perry affair?
notscot
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7:41pm Sat 9 Feb 13
shed wrote:So - where are the "hysterical phrases"?
you know notscot you never come on here with an opinion of your own or an original thought.
What you always do is come on in the middle of somene elses and proceed to add your hysterical insults everywhere; always the same hysterical phrases but in a varied order, and you always end up calling someone an idiot.
You are the a typical leftie student fanatic who is forever howling down other speakers, while ranting about freedom of speech,we see you ANL and similar deluded fools shouting and screaming your bile all the time, hopefully getting well thrashed by the police.
Please produce figures to back up your assertion that the "rest of humanity does not feel as I do"
Now, what are your views on the Perry affair?
I probably do end up calling you an idiot - your posts make you seem like an idiot.
Leftie student fanatic???
Screaming bile - getting thrashed by the police?!!! Think I can see the hysteria creeping in - but I'm afraid it's yours, not mine.
So - who said "the rest of humanity"?
Not me - but hey - you've never let the truth get in the way before!
shed
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8:56pm Sat 9 Feb 13
"You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you"
all your posts are hysterical..
notscot
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9:21pm Sat 9 Feb 13
shed wrote:As I said - don't let the truth get in the way!!
"rest of humanity" read your own words
"You're not quite as sick of homosexuals as you are of the fact that most of the rest of humanity doesn't feel the same way as you"
all your posts are hysterical..
"most of the rest of humanity"
is not "the rest of humanity".
Had to twist even that?!!
You really are an hysterical, hating bigot.
And an idiot.
shed
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11:35pm Sat 9 Feb 13
notscot
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9:42am Sun 10 Feb 13
shed wrote:Oh - NOW you want to discuss the upwardly mobile politically sharp destined for great heights (with the cleverly camouflaged brown nose) Claire Perry?
and your opinion on Claire Perry and her machinations is..........?
shed
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10:18am Sun 10 Feb 13
notscot
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11:16am Sun 10 Feb 13
Old retired bloke
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11:32am Sun 10 Feb 13
notscot wrote:To be fair he has asked for opinions of CP on almost all of his posts....
shed wrote:Oh - NOW you want to discuss the upwardly mobile politically sharp destined for great heights (with the cleverly camouflaged brown nose) Claire Perry?
and your opinion on Claire Perry and her machinations is..........?
shed
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12:34pm Sun 10 Feb 13
I see from today's papers that it would seem to suspicious minds such as mine that the whole issue of gay marriage, guaranteed as it is to cause this sort of divided opinion has been used as a smoke screen to hide the resurrection of something sinister viz the "Justice and Security Bill."
The bLiars tactic of hiding bad news is thriving it would seem.
I anticipate hearing The Smirkers stance on that one.
But I expect she'll be in the Gambia again when that comes to a vote.
notscot
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12:41pm Sun 10 Feb 13
Old retired bloke wrote:Irony.
notscot wrote:To be fair he has asked for opinions of CP on almost all of his posts....
shed wrote:Oh - NOW you want to discuss the upwardly mobile politically sharp destined for great heights (with the cleverly camouflaged brown nose) Claire Perry?
and your opinion on Claire Perry and her machinations is..........?
shed
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1:45pm Sun 10 Feb 13
notscot
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6:49pm Sun 10 Feb 13
shed wrote:yawn.....zzzzzzzzz
Does the smirk irony her husbands shirts or does she have an imported maid to do it?
cris
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9:23am Tue 12 Feb 13
1, Internet safety is already out there you have to want it and bother to understand it. (Waste to tax payers money)
2, there is nothing really left at the Trenchard Lines just a lot of post officers waiting to retire. (Waste of tax payers’ money) go to one of the real bases and try and keep some of our soldiers in JOBs. They have earned it…. You haven’t.
3, you went to see you doctor. Fantastic
4, the rest is just Cr@p that’s out of your control but thanks for you opinion most of us done share it…
Angolan Red
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6:37am Thu 14 Feb 13
shed says...
1:24pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Meanwhile back in the real world of normal decent folk... with real concerns about the world around them.............