Swindon library user is upset over 50p socket fee

This Is Wiltshire: Library user Josh Paul Lugembe is bemused about a new scheme to charge people 50p per day to use power sockets Buy this photo Library user Josh Paul Lugembe is bemused about a new scheme to charge people 50p per day to use power sockets

LIBRARY user Josh Paul Lugembe is bemused about a new 50p charge to use the electricity sockets at Central Library – which Swindon Council says aims to tackle crime.

Last month, plastic covers were installed over the twin wall sockets on all floors of the library, in Regent Circus, each bearing a sticker asking those wishing to charge a laptop or phone to pay 50p at the desk.

After being given a receipt to use the service for the day, a staff member then uses a plastic key to unlock the cover, which folds back to enable devices to be plugged in.

Afterwards, the user should clip the cover back into place.

Josh, 30, a freelance copywriter who uses the library for reference materials, says the library staff claimed the move aimed to tackle “crime rates” but did not explain the nature of the socket-related crime, and he suspects the charge simply aims to raise money.

He says there are better ways to cut crime or raise income, and fears the levy could deter students and other unemployed people from using the library regularly, adding that he has already seen one man pack up his laptop and go after learning of the charge.

He said: “If they aren’t working, 50p is going to be a great deal for them.

“These people shouldn’t be deterred from using libraries just for 50p.

“It’s a public library. Everyone should be able to go in and use their sockets.

“If they tell us ‘we want to increase our income of libraries’, that’s a better reason than saying ‘we are deterring crime’.

“Crime in a library? I find it very hard to believe that a library is a place people come to commit crime. And what sort of crime?”

Josh, a father-of-three, who lives in Okus Road, said he thought the scheme might be linked to the introduction of wi-fi in the library earlier this year, and feared the introduction of other petty charges.

He said: “The sockets were there originally and there was no introduction of 50p until they introduced the wi-fi, so are they trying to catch up with the costs for the wi-fi or their payments for the wi-fi?”

He said he wanted to see before and after crime statistics to assess whether the scheme is working, adding: “Now, because it’s three weeks almost, on Monday it’s going to be the fourth week, it’s a good time to check it out.”

A Swindon Council spokesman said: “We have been forced to charge for the use of sockets in the Central Library because after we introduced free wi-fi, a number of people started to come into the library to use the sockets to charge their phones and laptops, became bored while they waited, and caused significant and regular disruption.

“Staff and library users have been abused and threatened, and furniture and fittings have been damaged.

“We know that charging for the sockets will also affect library users who just want to use the library to study and learn, but we had to introduce a deterrent to those who were intent on causing trouble. It has had a positive effect, and the problems have reduced considerably.

Wi-fi access is still free in the library and if users have a device with a well-charged battery, they can use it anywhere they like without the need for a socket.

“It’s theoretically true that people could pay the 50p and still cause trouble, but by and large they haven’t.”

Library staff record all incidents, and for the three months of January, February and March there were 38 incidents which can be attributed to the presence of people in the library who were only there for phone charging, which is an average of just under 13 per month. Since April 15, there have been four incidents.”

The council bought 60 socket covers at £5.60 each – a total of £336.

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12:27pm Sat 11 May 13

Concerned of Wiltshire says...

"Josh, 30, a freelance copywriter who has used the library as a place to work for about three years"

And now he's whinging about 50p for the electricity. My goodness!
"Josh, 30, a freelance copywriter who has used the library as a place to work for about three years" And now he's whinging about 50p for the electricity. My goodness! Concerned of Wiltshire
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12:36pm Sat 11 May 13

RichardR1 says...

Concerned of Wiltshire my sentiments exactly he's running a business using public funded facilities, and now it's going to cost him 50p a day.

I some how think other local business people would love all inclusive rates, electric, internet access and an office for 50p a day.

However it has to be said proving all these facilities for free was always going to end in tears. Some people simply find it impossible not to take advantage.

Go to any big hotel with free wifi and see the amount of business people who use/abuse the service, even holding interviews in public areas.
Concerned of Wiltshire my sentiments exactly he's running a business using public funded facilities, and now it's going to cost him 50p a day. I some how think other local business people would love all inclusive rates, electric, internet access and an office for 50p a day. However it has to be said proving all these facilities for free was always going to end in tears. Some people simply find it impossible not to take advantage. Go to any big hotel with free wifi and see the amount of business people who use/abuse the service, even holding interviews in public areas. RichardR1
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12:47pm Sat 11 May 13

salt and vinegar says...

What a tight git!!!
What a tight git!!! salt and vinegar
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1:04pm Sat 11 May 13

Fox in Exile says...

Anyone from the council read this? Mr Lugembe owes you three years back rent, business rates, and service bills. If you do not collect I expect my rates, gas and electric to be paid by the council, who would you like me to send the invoice to.
Anyone from the council read this? Mr Lugembe owes you three years back rent, business rates, and service bills. If you do not collect I expect my rates, gas and electric to be paid by the council, who would you like me to send the invoice to. Fox in Exile
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1:05pm Sat 11 May 13

Davey Gravey says...

Library's are not there to provide free charging of electronic devices. 50p is more than reasonable.
Library's are not there to provide free charging of electronic devices. 50p is more than reasonable. Davey Gravey
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1:06pm Sat 11 May 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Quote "Josh, 30, a freelance copywriter who has used the library as a place to work for about three years,"

So essentially he's freelancing using tax payer subsidies via free electricity, heating, lighting and office space of the public library.

It he is there to genuinely use the library for research etc fair enough, but if he's simply using it as cheap office space that is unacceptable.


@RichardR1

At least in a hotel its private property and therefore up to the managers/owners to deal with it. Most hotels in the UK don't provide free wifi and charge up to £15 per day for it.



In any case don't we have free WiFi all over Swindon these days from digital city.... ! Ha ha ha ha.
Quote "Josh, 30, a freelance copywriter who has used the library as a place to work for about three years," So essentially he's freelancing using tax payer subsidies via free electricity, heating, lighting and office space of the public library. It he is there to genuinely use the library for research etc fair enough, but if he's simply using it as cheap office space that is unacceptable. @RichardR1 At least in a hotel its private property and therefore up to the managers/owners to deal with it. Most hotels in the UK don't provide free wifi and charge up to £15 per day for it. In any case don't we have free WiFi all over Swindon these days from digital city.... ! Ha ha ha ha. LordAshOfTheBrake
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1:24pm Sat 11 May 13

99cats says...

Anyone from the council read this? Mr Lugembe owes you three years back rent, business rates, and service bills. If you do not collect I expect my rates, gas and electric to be paid by the council, who would you like me to send the invoice to.

totally agree with Fox in Exile!! and at our library they have started charging 50p to write and tell you your book it ready for collection, and you cannot opt out of being written to...!!!! this i do object to....paying 50p to charge your phone / laptop, i don't have a problem with!!!!
Anyone from the council read this? Mr Lugembe owes you three years back rent, business rates, and service bills. If you do not collect I expect my rates, gas and electric to be paid by the council, who would you like me to send the invoice to. totally agree with Fox in Exile!! and at our library they have started charging 50p to write and tell you your book it ready for collection, and you cannot opt out of being written to...!!!! this i do object to....paying 50p to charge your phone / laptop, i don't have a problem with!!!! 99cats
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1:33pm Sat 11 May 13

Merlin'sBeard says...

On a weekday the library is open for 9.5 hours, so I think 50p is very reasonable for a whole day of office space. Plus I've been in the library when there has been trouble with large groups of teenagers only being there to charge phones and they have thrown books around and abused the staff who have asked them to stop. So if it stops that kind of behaviour, making it a suitable environment for Mr. Lugembe to work in, I don't see what the problem is.

Incidentally, they do charge in other libraries across the country and in some places it is significantly more.
On a weekday the library is open for 9.5 hours, so I think 50p is very reasonable for a whole day of office space. Plus I've been in the library when there has been trouble with large groups of teenagers only being there to charge phones and they have thrown books around and abused the staff who have asked them to stop. So if it stops that kind of behaviour, making it a suitable environment for Mr. Lugembe to work in, I don't see what the problem is. Incidentally, they do charge in other libraries across the country and in some places it is significantly more. Merlin'sBeard
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1:58pm Sat 11 May 13

Elizabeth A says...

Are people really that gullible? I'm surprised at all the comments in support of this idea. Can any of those buying into this please explain how a well charged device reduces crime and unruly behaviour? This library user is right to bring this silly excuse to everyone's attention. It is clearly only about making money.
Are people really that gullible? I'm surprised at all the comments in support of this idea. Can any of those buying into this please explain how a well charged device reduces crime and unruly behaviour? This library user is right to bring this silly excuse to everyone's attention. It is clearly only about making money. Elizabeth A
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2:10pm Sat 11 May 13

Bimbosforjustice says...

Fully support the 50p charge. Maybe this man should get his own office with electricity and wifi. He's had three years to put his house in order.

What a prat
Fully support the 50p charge. Maybe this man should get his own office with electricity and wifi. He's had three years to put his house in order. What a prat Bimbosforjustice
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2:11pm Sat 11 May 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Elizabeth A wrote:
Are people really that gullible? I'm surprised at all the comments in support of this idea. Can any of those buying into this please explain how a well charged device reduces crime and unruly behaviour? This library user is right to bring this silly excuse to everyone's attention. It is clearly only about making money.
Your not reading the comments properly.

Most commenting think that the individuals use of the library as an office for him to work from is unacceptable.

Whether the charge for the use of a plug is due to raising cash or preventing trouble from others is not the point most are referring to.

Perhaps everyone around Swindon who has the capacity to work from home should start taking up space in the library.
[quote][p][bold]Elizabeth A[/bold] wrote: Are people really that gullible? I'm surprised at all the comments in support of this idea. Can any of those buying into this please explain how a well charged device reduces crime and unruly behaviour? This library user is right to bring this silly excuse to everyone's attention. It is clearly only about making money.[/p][/quote]Your not reading the comments properly. Most commenting think that the individuals use of the library as an office for him to work from is unacceptable. Whether the charge for the use of a plug is due to raising cash or preventing trouble from others is not the point most are referring to. Perhaps everyone around Swindon who has the capacity to work from home should start taking up space in the library. LordAshOfTheBrake
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3:02pm Sat 11 May 13

swindonurock says...

I honestly don't see a problem with this gentleman using the library as a place to work; it's reasonably quiet, and he is a writer after all, and I'm sure he makes good use of the books available.

Much rather that than the library being a white elephant with nobody using it, or with people misusing it.

In any case, the story doesn't say that he uses it as a 9-5 office; it just says that he has used the library as a place to work; maybe he uses it for a couple of hours each day, or just one day a week ... But it wouldn't bother me if he used it 9-5 every day, so long as he's not abusing/misusing anything or anyone.

As for the 50p charge, then I suppose if it helps reduce problems for the library, then all well and good; it's hardly extortion; I guess I just wish there was a better way of providing a deterrent for those that would cause problems.
I honestly don't see a problem with this gentleman using the library as a place to work; it's reasonably quiet, and he is a writer after all, and I'm sure he makes good use of the books available. Much rather that than the library being a white elephant with nobody using it, or with people misusing it. In any case, the story doesn't say that he uses it as a 9-5 office; it just says that he has used the library as a place to work; maybe he uses it for a couple of hours each day, or just one day a week ... But it wouldn't bother me if he used it 9-5 every day, so long as he's not abusing/misusing anything or anyone. As for the 50p charge, then I suppose if it helps reduce problems for the library, then all well and good; it's hardly extortion; I guess I just wish there was a better way of providing a deterrent for those that would cause problems. swindonurock
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3:04pm Sat 11 May 13

deepforest says...

what kind of 'criminal' activity do the library hope to deter by a 50p plug charge? Must be a fairly unsucessful undertaking if a 50p charge is going to deter them
what kind of 'criminal' activity do the library hope to deter by a 50p plug charge? Must be a fairly unsucessful undertaking if a 50p charge is going to deter them deepforest
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3:11pm Sat 11 May 13

house on the hill says...

So people are complaining about 50p to charge their devices? seriously? As for reducing crime that's just plain bonkers and another SBC excuse, it isn't nearly enough to discourage those they seem to be talking about. Just say its a reasonable fee which it is. I cant honestly see people shying away from using it for 50p. What a crazy excuse to come up with.
So people are complaining about 50p to charge their devices? seriously? As for reducing crime that's just plain bonkers and another SBC excuse, it isn't nearly enough to discourage those they seem to be talking about. Just say its a reasonable fee which it is. I cant honestly see people shying away from using it for 50p. What a crazy excuse to come up with. house on the hill
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3:16pm Sat 11 May 13

Elizabeth A says...

deepforest wrote:
what kind of 'criminal' activity do the library hope to deter by a 50p plug charge? Must be a fairly unsucessful undertaking if a 50p charge is going to deter them
Exactly! And if Swindon really believes a well charged device reduces crime and anti-social behaviour why aren't they encouraging it by offering recharge at no cost? Simples!
[quote][p][bold]deepforest[/bold] wrote: what kind of 'criminal' activity do the library hope to deter by a 50p plug charge? Must be a fairly unsucessful undertaking if a 50p charge is going to deter them[/p][/quote]Exactly! And if Swindon really believes a well charged device reduces crime and anti-social behaviour why aren't they encouraging it by offering recharge at no cost? Simples! Elizabeth A
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3:26pm Sat 11 May 13

Silver Lining says...

However did this rubbish end up as a page three story in today's Advertiser. Obviously a quiet news day in Swindon.

Sorry Advertiser, but very poor journalism in my view.

I'm glad to see so many reasoned comments that see this bit of 'council bashing' nonsense for what it is.

Perhaps Mr Lugembe should get an office and pay for his own electricity, like other businesses. The library isn't a charity set up to support him.
However did this rubbish end up as a page three story in today's Advertiser. Obviously a quiet news day in Swindon. Sorry Advertiser, but very poor journalism in my view. I'm glad to see so many reasoned comments that see this bit of 'council bashing' nonsense for what it is. Perhaps Mr Lugembe should get an office and pay for his own electricity, like other businesses. The library isn't a charity set up to support him. Silver Lining
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4:45pm Sat 11 May 13

Always Grumpy says...

Silver Lining wrote:
However did this rubbish end up as a page three story in today's Advertiser. Obviously a quiet news day in Swindon.

Sorry Advertiser, but very poor journalism in my view.

I'm glad to see so many reasoned comments that see this bit of 'council bashing' nonsense for what it is.

Perhaps Mr Lugembe should get an office and pay for his own electricity, like other businesses. The library isn't a charity set up to support him.
Well, it is yet another politically biased story from so called reported David Wiles, so what do you expect?
[quote][p][bold]Silver Lining[/bold] wrote: However did this rubbish end up as a page three story in today's Advertiser. Obviously a quiet news day in Swindon. Sorry Advertiser, but very poor journalism in my view. I'm glad to see so many reasoned comments that see this bit of 'council bashing' nonsense for what it is. Perhaps Mr Lugembe should get an office and pay for his own electricity, like other businesses. The library isn't a charity set up to support him.[/p][/quote]Well, it is yet another politically biased story from so called reported David Wiles, so what do you expect? Always Grumpy
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4:46pm Sat 11 May 13

swindonurock says...

Silver Lining wrote:
However did this rubbish end up as a page three story in today's Advertiser. Obviously a quiet news day in Swindon.

Sorry Advertiser, but very poor journalism in my view.

I'm glad to see so many reasoned comments that see this bit of 'council bashing' nonsense for what it is.

Perhaps Mr Lugembe should get an office and pay for his own electricity, like other businesses. The library isn't a charity set up to support him.
What tosh.

Nowhere (except in the comments section) does the story suggest he's using the library for an office; it just says he uses the library to work - as many, many other people do, including students, etc - and nowhere does it even hint at how often he uses the library, or for how long.

I'm happy for people like him to use the library 9-5 if they would like to; at least it means the library is fulfilling a useful societal role.

Nowhere is it written that the library must only be used for non-profit purposes, or for reading only, or for educational purposes only, etc, and Mr Lugembe is as entitled as the next person to make as much - or as little use - of the library as he wishes.

And, I expect the truth is that he's mostly just tapping away on his laptop, and making use of reference materials, and bothering nobody, and using the library exactly as it was intended.

It's "our" library - not just "your" library or "my" library, and people may use it however they see fit, so long as it's not in any destructive kind of way, and they abide by the library rules.
[quote][p][bold]Silver Lining[/bold] wrote: However did this rubbish end up as a page three story in today's Advertiser. Obviously a quiet news day in Swindon. Sorry Advertiser, but very poor journalism in my view. I'm glad to see so many reasoned comments that see this bit of 'council bashing' nonsense for what it is. Perhaps Mr Lugembe should get an office and pay for his own electricity, like other businesses. The library isn't a charity set up to support him.[/p][/quote]What tosh. Nowhere (except in the comments section) does the story suggest he's using the library for an office; it just says he uses the library to work - as many, many other people do, including students, etc - and nowhere does it even hint at how often he uses the library, or for how long. I'm happy for people like him to use the library 9-5 if they would like to; at least it means the library is fulfilling a useful societal role. Nowhere is it written that the library must only be used for non-profit purposes, or for reading only, or for educational purposes only, etc, and Mr Lugembe is as entitled as the next person to make as much - or as little use - of the library as he wishes. And, I expect the truth is that he's mostly just tapping away on his laptop, and making use of reference materials, and bothering nobody, and using the library exactly as it was intended. It's "our" library - not just "your" library or "my" library, and people may use it however they see fit, so long as it's not in any destructive kind of way, and they abide by the library rules. swindonurock
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5:43pm Sat 11 May 13

FlowerPower says...

50p charge for the use of electricity to charge a phone or laptop is very reasonable imo. Would rather that instead of an increase in council tax to cover the increasing electricity bill at the library.
50p charge for the use of electricity to charge a phone or laptop is very reasonable imo. Would rather that instead of an increase in council tax to cover the increasing electricity bill at the library. FlowerPower
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6:00pm Sat 11 May 13

Paul Hughes says...

I need someone to copy write my book, with no overheads to pay, Josh should be quite competitive.

Get in touch Josh, cheers!
I need someone to copy write my book, with no overheads to pay, Josh should be quite competitive. Get in touch Josh, cheers! Paul Hughes
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6:36pm Sat 11 May 13

Davey Gravey says...

Swindon's library's have seen many cut backs recently, would those moaning about a 50p charge like it if the library was closed down due to electric charges. Our Tory council will close it if they get chance. Be careful what you criticize as it may go eventually.
Swindon's library's have seen many cut backs recently, would those moaning about a 50p charge like it if the library was closed down due to electric charges. Our Tory council will close it if they get chance. Be careful what you criticize as it may go eventually. Davey Gravey
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6:45pm Sat 11 May 13

timt1964 says...

at my local library most of the "customers" are just sat at the pcs on facebook whilst using their mobiles and listening to music.if you dont want to pay try charging your laptop or phone at home like we all do.or maybe the adver could start a charity to raise money for the "poor" deprived folk who can afford to pay for contract phones but draw the line at 50p to use council services.
at my local library most of the "customers" are just sat at the pcs on facebook whilst using their mobiles and listening to music.if you dont want to pay try charging your laptop or phone at home like we all do.or maybe the adver could start a charity to raise money for the "poor" deprived folk who can afford to pay for contract phones but draw the line at 50p to use council services. timt1964
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7:11pm Sat 11 May 13

squiggles87 says...

as a frequent visitor to the liburay i can understand every reason they have done it. one of the biggest problems in there is the amount of people who go in thier and congrigate in groups and abuse staff as well as customers. and charging phones and laptops. and causing a neisence in there in general - so dettering crime yea i can vouch for it have witnessed security being squared up to by kids. at the end of the day 50p is nothing in todays society and is it a a half hour or hour no its a whole day and besides your a freelance copywriter - own business - surely there a clause in that about using the wifi in thier any ways
as a frequent visitor to the liburay i can understand every reason they have done it. one of the biggest problems in there is the amount of people who go in thier and congrigate in groups and abuse staff as well as customers. and charging phones and laptops. and causing a neisence in there in general - so dettering crime yea i can vouch for it have witnessed security being squared up to by kids. at the end of the day 50p is nothing in todays society and is it a a half hour or hour no its a whole day and besides your a freelance copywriter - own business - surely there a clause in that about using the wifi in thier any ways squiggles87
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7:19pm Sat 11 May 13

Al Smith says...

50p for a 1 days use!

1kWh costs about 12p.

He's paying for 4kWh of electricity (equiv. to running a 100w bulb for 40 hours), there's just no way he'll use that much in one day.

PLUS he's already paid for it (and the library) through his council tax.

Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration.

Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".
50p for a 1 days use! 1kWh costs about 12p. He's paying for 4kWh of electricity (equiv. to running a 100w bulb for 40 hours), there's just no way he'll use that much in one day. PLUS he's already paid for it (and the library) through his council tax. Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration. Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!". Al Smith
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7:58pm Sat 11 May 13

swindonurock says...

squiggles87 wrote:
as a frequent visitor to the liburay i can understand every reason they have done it. one of the biggest problems in there is the amount of people who go in thier and congrigate in groups and abuse staff as well as customers. and charging phones and laptops. and causing a neisence in there in general - so dettering crime yea i can vouch for it have witnessed security being squared up to by kids. at the end of the day 50p is nothing in todays society and is it a a half hour or hour no its a whole day and besides your a freelance copywriter - own business - surely there a clause in that about using the wifi in thier any ways
Check out a couple of spelling books the next time you're in the library squiggles87.

As for your ridiculous comment about using the wi-fi, then I can't help but laugh at you.

As residents we're each entitled to use the library, and all of its resources, as much or as little as we like, for whatever purpose we choose; it's a "public" library.

There's plenty of room in the library, and many seats and the wi-fi is freely available for everyone, as it should be - for business purposes; for research; for entertainment; or whatever anyone chooses.

I'm all in favour of Mr Lugembe - or anyone else - using the library as much as possible, for whatever purpose he likes, so long as it doesn't hog resources and so long as library rules are respected.

As for moaning about the 50p charge, then I think he should probably have saved his energy for bigger battles.
[quote][p][bold]squiggles87[/bold] wrote: as a frequent visitor to the liburay i can understand every reason they have done it. one of the biggest problems in there is the amount of people who go in thier and congrigate in groups and abuse staff as well as customers. and charging phones and laptops. and causing a neisence in there in general - so dettering crime yea i can vouch for it have witnessed security being squared up to by kids. at the end of the day 50p is nothing in todays society and is it a a half hour or hour no its a whole day and besides your a freelance copywriter - own business - surely there a clause in that about using the wifi in thier any ways[/p][/quote]Check out a couple of spelling books the next time you're in the library squiggles87. As for your ridiculous comment about using the wi-fi, then I can't help but laugh at you. As residents we're each entitled to use the library, and all of its resources, as much or as little as we like, for whatever purpose we choose; it's a "public" library. There's plenty of room in the library, and many seats and the wi-fi is freely available for everyone, as it should be - for business purposes; for research; for entertainment; or whatever anyone chooses. I'm all in favour of Mr Lugembe - or anyone else - using the library as much as possible, for whatever purpose he likes, so long as it doesn't hog resources and so long as library rules are respected. As for moaning about the 50p charge, then I think he should probably have saved his energy for bigger battles. swindonurock
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8:18pm Sat 11 May 13

Moth says...

Paul Hughes wrote:
I need someone to copy write my book, with no overheads to pay, Josh should be quite competitive.

Get in touch Josh, cheers!
It doesn't cost anything to copyright a book. I take it you mean "Copyright" and not copy write as in copying what you've written and re-writing it?

It is very easy to copyright anything you've written (I've got several poems/songs copyrighted).

Look up the internet as there's plenty of information on there but beware of the various companies who would charge you an arm and a leg and make sure you put UK in the search.

As for the gentleman in the article objecting to being charged 50p to charge his phone/laptop...umm..
.we charge them at home and it costs us money which we pay on the electric bill (me stating the obvious).

I suppose some people just want everything for nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hughes[/bold] wrote: I need someone to copy write my book, with no overheads to pay, Josh should be quite competitive. Get in touch Josh, cheers![/p][/quote]It doesn't cost anything to copyright a book. I take it you mean "Copyright" and not copy write as in copying what you've written and re-writing it? It is very easy to copyright anything you've written (I've got several poems/songs copyrighted). Look up the internet as there's plenty of information on there but beware of the various companies who would charge you an arm and a leg and make sure you put UK in the search. As for the gentleman in the article objecting to being charged 50p to charge his phone/laptop...umm.. .we charge them at home and it costs us money which we pay on the electric bill (me stating the obvious). I suppose some people just want everything for nothing. Moth
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8:24pm Sat 11 May 13

Hmmmf says...

deepforest wrote:
what kind of 'criminal' activity do the library hope to deter by a 50p plug charge? Must be a fairly unsucessful undertaking if a 50p charge is going to deter them
Stealing electricity.

It's a public library, not a public power outlet. The unemployed (sorry, 'freelance') can charge their gadgets at their own expense, not the taxpayer's.
[quote][p][bold]deepforest[/bold] wrote: what kind of 'criminal' activity do the library hope to deter by a 50p plug charge? Must be a fairly unsucessful undertaking if a 50p charge is going to deter them[/p][/quote]Stealing electricity. It's a public library, not a public power outlet. The unemployed (sorry, 'freelance') can charge their gadgets at their own expense, not the taxpayer's. Hmmmf
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9:07pm Sat 11 May 13

Hmmmf says...

Al Smith wrote:
Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration.

Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".”

This is what the free wifi and free electricity (paid for by the Swindon taxpayer) is being used to produce: http://awewrite.co.u
k/

I've amended your copy slightly: "Want to sit in the warm all day, with free power and free broadband, and build a web-based business but pay no rates or taxes? Come to Swindon!"
[quote][p][bold]Al Smith[/bold] wrote: Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration. Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".”[/quote] This is what the free wifi and free electricity (paid for by the Swindon taxpayer) is being used to produce: http://awewrite.co.u k/ I've amended your copy slightly: "Want to sit in the warm all day, with free power and free broadband, and build a web-based business but pay no rates or taxes? Come to Swindon!" Hmmmf
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9:29pm Sat 11 May 13

Davey Gravey says...

The library gets all sorts of undesirables in there which causes problems for the staff. They haven't to employ security officers and have had drunks and druggies in there frequently. It's not a hang out for people who cannot charge their phones or conduct their affairs elsewhere.
The library gets all sorts of undesirables in there which causes problems for the staff. They haven't to employ security officers and have had drunks and druggies in there frequently. It's not a hang out for people who cannot charge their phones or conduct their affairs elsewhere. Davey Gravey
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9:43pm Sat 11 May 13

Davey Gravey says...

Have not haven't. Predictable text
Have not haven't. Predictable text Davey Gravey
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10:01pm Sat 11 May 13

nigelej says...

Al Smith wrote:
50p for a 1 days use!

1kWh costs about 12p.

He's paying for 4kWh of electricity (equiv. to running a 100w bulb for 40 hours), there's just no way he'll use that much in one day.

PLUS he's already paid for it (and the library) through his council tax.

Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration.

Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".
Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .
[quote][p][bold]Al Smith[/bold] wrote: 50p for a 1 days use! 1kWh costs about 12p. He's paying for 4kWh of electricity (equiv. to running a 100w bulb for 40 hours), there's just no way he'll use that much in one day. PLUS he's already paid for it (and the library) through his council tax. Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration. Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".[/p][/quote]Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library . nigelej
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10:11pm Sat 11 May 13

billymcred says...

if it was down to me i would remove all sockets its a library not some where to charge lap tops phone etc for free
if it was down to me i would remove all sockets its a library not some where to charge lap tops phone etc for free billymcred
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10:31pm Sat 11 May 13

Hmmmf says...

nigelej wrote:
Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .”

Pot. Kettle.
[quote][p][bold]nigelej[/bold] wrote: Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .”[/quote] Pot. Kettle. Hmmmf
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10:36pm Sat 11 May 13

billymcred says...

just a quick thought I live near library could I run an extension lead freom there to my house that would save me some money
just a quick thought I live near library could I run an extension lead freom there to my house that would save me some money billymcred
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10:54pm Sat 11 May 13

Concerned of Wiltshire says...

I'm thinking of setting up a web site which will enable me to charge (scuse the pun) people to be referred to our library as some where to sleep, use the loo, charge the lap top.

Should be much cheaper than those new hotels nearby and will rake in a few quid for me.

Josh Paul Lugembo might have to budge up a bit on the seats though.
I'm thinking of setting up a web site which will enable me to charge (scuse the pun) people to be referred to our library as some where to sleep, use the loo, charge the lap top. Should be much cheaper than those new hotels nearby and will rake in a few quid for me. Josh Paul Lugembo might have to budge up a bit on the seats though. Concerned of Wiltshire
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12:09am Sun 12 May 13

nigelej says...

Hmmmf wrote:
nigelej wrote:
Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .”

Pot. Kettle.
I think you will find I have a very strong opinion on one particular subject which we are not discussing here . So go get your pot put the kettle on and settle down .
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nigelej[/bold] wrote: Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .”[/quote] Pot. Kettle.[/p][/quote]I think you will find I have a very strong opinion on one particular subject which we are not discussing here . So go get your pot put the kettle on and settle down . nigelej
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7:58am Sun 12 May 13

Eppster says...

Mr Lugembe you are nothing more than a whingeing freeloader.
Pay your 50p, sit down, plug your laptop in and then research and work out how much it would cost you to lease an office, furnish it, connect broadband, water, electric and how much all the related rates and taxes would cost on top too.
Then kindly shut up.
Mr Lugembe you are nothing more than a whingeing freeloader. Pay your 50p, sit down, plug your laptop in and then research and work out how much it would cost you to lease an office, furnish it, connect broadband, water, electric and how much all the related rates and taxes would cost on top too. Then kindly shut up. Eppster
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8:28am Sun 12 May 13

RichardR1 says...

Now I am no expert of battery life times of various devices, although I do know my laptop lasts at least 3 hours on the battery.

This article shows the talk times of the most common smart phones, the Galaxy 3 is 12 hours. So heaven knows what the stand by time is.

http://blogs.which.c
o.uk/technology/smar
tphones/which-smartp
hone-has-the-best-ba
ttery-life/

So is there any need for anyone to charge their phones or computers in the first place.

I note the support for those who are complaining about the fee. It really isn't about that, as has been explained.

If the reports are correct and this has reduced anti social behaviour and abuse that is a good thing.

Running your business at Rate payers expense is not right.
Now I am no expert of battery life times of various devices, although I do know my laptop lasts at least 3 hours on the battery. This article shows the talk times of the most common smart phones, the Galaxy 3 is 12 hours. So heaven knows what the stand by time is. http://blogs.which.c o.uk/technology/smar tphones/which-smartp hone-has-the-best-ba ttery-life/ So is there any need for anyone to charge their phones or computers in the first place. I note the support for those who are complaining about the fee. It really isn't about that, as has been explained. If the reports are correct and this has reduced anti social behaviour and abuse that is a good thing. Running your business at Rate payers expense is not right. RichardR1
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8:55am Sun 12 May 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration.

Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".”

This is what the free wifi and free electricity (paid for by the Swindon taxpayer) is being used to produce: http://awewrite.co.u

k/

I've amended your copy slightly: "Want to sit in the warm all day, with free power and free broadband, and build a web-based business but pay no rates or taxes? Come to Swindon!"
Looking at the quality of some of the web site, its no wonder he needs to do things on the cheap/free.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Al Smith[/bold] wrote: Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration. Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".”[/quote] This is what the free wifi and free electricity (paid for by the Swindon taxpayer) is being used to produce: http://awewrite.co.u k/ I've amended your copy slightly: "Want to sit in the warm all day, with free power and free broadband, and build a web-based business but pay no rates or taxes? Come to Swindon!"[/p][/quote]Looking at the quality of some of the web site, its no wonder he needs to do things on the cheap/free. LordAshOfTheBrake
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10:15am Sun 12 May 13

Ringer says...

I had no idea my council tax was being used to give people free electricity.
I had no idea my council tax was being used to give people free electricity. Ringer
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11:30am Sun 12 May 13

Peter Mallinson says...

Lets have a 50p plugin charge in Fleet Street and Old Town on a Friday and Saturday night.

If it deters crime then it would be worth it !!
Lets have a 50p plugin charge in Fleet Street and Old Town on a Friday and Saturday night. If it deters crime then it would be worth it !! Peter Mallinson
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11:45am Sun 12 May 13

Hmmmf says...

nigelej wrote:
I think you will find I have a very strong opinion on one particular subject which we are not discussing here . So go get your pot put the kettle on and settle down .

You really are astonishing. Here you are posting on this thread but claiming you only have opinions on one subject which is not this one. And in your breathtaking ignorance you truly cannot see the irony and hypocrisy of posting the kind of illiterate nonsense an eight year-old would be ashamed of in order to suggest that people you disagree with 'should go to the library.'
Have another look at what you've written. Compare it other people's posts. If nothing else, at least you might learn where a full-stop is supposed to go. Then use your internet connection to learn about sentence case, commas, and verbs (hint: "to an" isn't one).
nigelej wrote:
Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .

Even the freeload copywriter Lugembe is aware of the importance of basic grammar when using the written word to communicate.
[quote][p][bold]nigelej[/bold] wrote: I think you will find I have a very strong opinion on one particular subject which we are not discussing here . So go get your pot put the kettle on and settle down .[/quote] You really are astonishing. Here you are posting on this thread but claiming you only have opinions on one subject which is not this one. And in your breathtaking ignorance you truly cannot see the irony and hypocrisy of posting the kind of illiterate nonsense an eight year-old would be ashamed of in order to suggest that people you disagree with 'should go to the library.' Have another look at what you've written. Compare it other people's posts. If nothing else, at least you might learn where a full-stop is supposed to go. Then use your internet connection to learn about sentence case, commas, and verbs (hint: "to an" isn't one). [quote][p][bold]nigelej[/bold] wrote: Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .[/quote] Even the freeload copywriter Lugembe is aware of the importance of basic grammar when using the written word to communicate. Hmmmf
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1:08pm Sun 12 May 13

nigelej says...

Hmmmf wrote:
nigelej wrote:
I think you will find I have a very strong opinion on one particular subject which we are not discussing here . So go get your pot put the kettle on and settle down .

You really are astonishing. Here you are posting on this thread but claiming you only have opinions on one subject which is not this one. And in your breathtaking ignorance you truly cannot see the irony and hypocrisy of posting the kind of illiterate nonsense an eight year-old would be ashamed of in order to suggest that people you disagree with 'should go to the library.'
Have another look at what you've written. Compare it other people's posts. If nothing else, at least you might learn where a full-stop is supposed to go. Then use your internet connection to learn about sentence case, commas, and verbs (hint: "to an" isn't one).
nigelej wrote:
Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .

Even the freeload copywriter Lugembe is aware of the importance of basic grammar when using the written word to communicate.
How rude . Have a nice weekend .
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nigelej[/bold] wrote: I think you will find I have a very strong opinion on one particular subject which we are not discussing here . So go get your pot put the kettle on and settle down .[/quote] You really are astonishing. Here you are posting on this thread but claiming you only have opinions on one subject which is not this one. And in your breathtaking ignorance you truly cannot see the irony and hypocrisy of posting the kind of illiterate nonsense an eight year-old would be ashamed of in order to suggest that people you disagree with 'should go to the library.' Have another look at what you've written. Compare it other people's posts. If nothing else, at least you might learn where a full-stop is supposed to go. Then use your internet connection to learn about sentence case, commas, and verbs (hint: "to an" isn't one). [quote][p][bold]nigelej[/bold] wrote: Very well put .im beginning to think some people just like to an opinion on nearly everything and they think they know everything when probably they know nothing .maybe they should go to the library .[/quote] Even the freeload copywriter Lugembe is aware of the importance of basic grammar when using the written word to communicate.[/p][/quote]How rude . Have a nice weekend . nigelej
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3:18pm Sun 12 May 13

Hmmmf says...

nigelej wrote:
How rude . Have a nice weekend .

im sure ill do just that .thanks you too .
[quote][p][bold]nigelej[/bold] wrote: How rude . Have a nice weekend .[/quote] im sure ill do just that .thanks you too . Hmmmf
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4:33pm Sun 12 May 13

Ringer says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration.

Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".”

This is what the free wifi and free electricity (paid for by the Swindon taxpayer) is being used to produce: http://awewrite.co.u

k/

I've amended your copy slightly: "Want to sit in the warm all day, with free power and free broadband, and build a web-based business but pay no rates or taxes? Come to Swindon!"
That site is absolutely shocking - and that's before we mention the numerous errors and non-sensical sentences.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Al Smith[/bold] wrote: Oh yes - a copywriter is some who produces text (copy) for marketing a business, product etc. - hence probably needs access to reference materials / inspiration. Here's my copy for Swindon based on todays comments: "Want to live in a town of full bitter, small-minded and petty people? Come to Swindon!".”[/quote] This is what the free wifi and free electricity (paid for by the Swindon taxpayer) is being used to produce: http://awewrite.co.u k/ I've amended your copy slightly: "Want to sit in the warm all day, with free power and free broadband, and build a web-based business but pay no rates or taxes? Come to Swindon!"[/p][/quote]That site is absolutely shocking - and that's before we mention the numerous errors and non-sensical sentences. Ringer
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8:50pm Sun 12 May 13

Concerned of Wiltshire says...

I'm thinking of popping to the library and ask for a go on people's laptops.

It will save buying my own.
I'm thinking of popping to the library and ask for a go on people's laptops. It will save buying my own. Concerned of Wiltshire
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8:47am Mon 13 May 13

A.Baron-Cohen says...

It is free to work on the train.....and there is no extra charge to charge an iphone or plug a laptop.
Clearly this public service is no longer relevant, and should be scrapped.
It is free to work on the train.....and there is no extra charge to charge an iphone or plug a laptop. Clearly this public service is no longer relevant, and should be scrapped. A.Baron-Cohen
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11:25am Mon 13 May 13

RichardR1 says...

Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.
Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge. RichardR1
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11:30am Mon 13 May 13

blahblahblahblah says...

judging by his site I think Josh is currently writing emails for the nigerian prince who just asked for my bank details so I can receive £25 million.
judging by his site I think Josh is currently writing emails for the nigerian prince who just asked for my bank details so I can receive £25 million. blahblahblahblah
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12:29pm Mon 13 May 13

A.Baron-Cohen says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.
working is free, travelling isn't :-)
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.[/p][/quote]working is free, travelling isn't :-) A.Baron-Cohen
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1:58pm Mon 13 May 13

house on the hill says...

"".Baron-Cohen says...
12:29pm Mon 13 May 13


RichardR1 wrote:
Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.

working is free, travelling isn't :-)”""

But you have to pay to travel before its free to work unlike the library where you dont have to pay extra to go inside (and yes I am well aware it is paid out of our taxes, but taxes are paid by law travelling by train isnt so completely different)
"".Baron-Cohen says... 12:29pm Mon 13 May 13 RichardR1 wrote: Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge. working is free, travelling isn't :-)”"" But you have to pay to travel before its free to work unlike the library where you dont have to pay extra to go inside (and yes I am well aware it is paid out of our taxes, but taxes are paid by law travelling by train isnt so completely different) house on the hill
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8:41pm Mon 13 May 13

itsamess3 says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.
'Fairs are usually huge'--another bobbyism--wonder why the site troll does not put you right?
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.[/p][/quote]'Fairs are usually huge'--another bobbyism--wonder why the site troll does not put you right? itsamess3
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10:52pm Mon 13 May 13

Phantom Poster says...

itsamess3 wrote:
RichardR1 wrote:
Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.
'Fairs are usually huge'--another bobbyism--wonder why the site troll does not put you right?
I really can't think of any troll on here who is obsessed with 'Bobby':

http://alturl.com/vv
von
12:30pm Mon 2 Jan 12

http://alturl.com/jm
wgj
7:56am Fri 27 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.[/p][/quote]'Fairs are usually huge'--another bobbyism--wonder why the site troll does not put you right?[/p][/quote]I really can't think of any troll on here who is obsessed with 'Bobby': http://alturl.com/vv von 12:30pm Mon 2 Jan 12 http://alturl.com/jm wgj 7:56am Fri 27 Jan 12 Phantom Poster
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5:45am Tue 14 May 13

Ringer says...

itsamess3 wrote:
RichardR1 wrote:
Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.
'Fairs are usually huge'--another bobbyism--wonder why the site troll does not put you right?
Looks like you just have.
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Hardly free on the train, the fairs are huge.[/p][/quote]'Fairs are usually huge'--another bobbyism--wonder why the site troll does not put you right?[/p][/quote]Looks like you just have. Ringer
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7:18am Tue 14 May 13

itsamess3 says...

P.P.
"I really can't think of any troll on here who is obsessed with 'Bobby':

I can--but you are too late to help him.
P.P. "I really can't think of any troll on here who is obsessed with 'Bobby': I can--but you are too late to help him. itsamess3
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7:27am Tue 14 May 13

RichardR1 says...

How amusing coming from the Nuclear Scientist who has publicly stated on these forums that he doesn't care about correct Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation as it's only a forum, and yet he's the first to mention others.

How about -- or - or i is that alright Mr Itsamess.

As for Troll, whose the guy who boasts of having an extensive dossier on the now absent former pub Landlord, who seems to be alive and well and not in prison, I am reliably informed, and not in Portsmouth.
How amusing coming from the Nuclear Scientist who has publicly stated on these forums that he doesn't care about correct Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation as it's only a forum, and yet he's the first to mention others. How about -- or - or i is that alright Mr Itsamess. As for Troll, whose the guy who boasts of having an extensive dossier on the now absent former pub Landlord, who seems to be alive and well and not in prison, I am reliably informed, and not in Portsmouth. RichardR1
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8:15am Tue 14 May 13

Ringer says...

itsamess3 wrote:
P.P.
"I really can't think of any troll on here who is obsessed with 'Bobby':

I can--but you are too late to help him.
For once, you're right about something: it's far too late to help you.
[quote][p][bold]itsamess3[/bold] wrote: P.P. "I really can't think of any troll on here who is obsessed with 'Bobby': I can--but you are too late to help him.[/p][/quote]For once, you're right about something: it's far too late to help you. Ringer
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1:51pm Tue 14 May 13

josure says...

It's impressive to see all these comments - most of them being in support of what the library is doing. I totally agree with them all (except for those with dirty lines...for you I'm about to introduce 52p).

Well, I'm Josh Paul Lugembe - the weird looking guy on this article.
First of all, allow me to correct some of the errors on this piece by David Wiles.

I'm not upset with the 50p charge as the article tries to convince us. I have paid that only three times since it was introduced.

But then, why only three times?
Well, because I have my place of work with Regus at Windmill Hill Business Park.

I use the library when I have to do some research. As I make a lot of phone calls in the course of my work, how would I do that if Library is my place of work?

Also, I have only lived in Swindon for just over a year. Yes, I'm not from Nigeria or Panama but Reading. And while I'm not trying to change anything in Swindon in respect of what I experienced in Reading, I must say, our libraries are our libraries. We are all entitled to use them.

We cannot turn them into restaurants as some would like to, we cannot even turn them into some kind of call centre or something - as so many people are trying to by making loud private phone conversation within the libraries with no clue that libraries are supposed to be quiet rooms.

Now, if I have only being here for a year or so...then how could I have used library as a place of work for three years? How possibly could I make my every day business calls within the library without being fetched out by those security guys?

In fact, you all need to know this. I wanted to write the article myself. I wanted to do it because I was told by the library's manager that '50p reduces crimes'. Really?

What crimes are being committed in the library?

In fact, I was told that they had to employ the second security guy for the same reason. But what crimes?

Asking these questions as a regular library user, it's difficult to get all the answers. The only way to do it, at least for me, was to pitch the idea to the editor who instead passed it to David Wiles, who eventually didn't want me to write it but himself.

And yes, I was concerned that Advertiser might write what I didn't say - and miss what I said. And I was right. The day before publication I asked David, 'are you sure your piece will reflect what I wanted to know (and what I think local library users would like to know)? Are you sure this is not going to be about me as it's not about me but about the crimes said to be committed in the library, and that 50p would help to cut them down.

Wouldn't it be nice for the Wiltshire Police to know how to cut crimes down by introducing 50p or something?

What about the fact that people commit crimes in the library, if it's true, don't we need to do something about that kind of behavior? But before anything gets done...don't we need to understand first the nature of those crimes and the people who commit them?

Or, should we think unsafe then to visit our local libraries? Remember, there are children who visit libraries as well...so should their parents worry and think 'libraries are in fact unsafe...so no need to go'?

And just to let you know, I do work from home as well. But them is it professional to invite my clients to my home for a business chat while my twin girls are fighting over a dolly's missing eye? What if I invite them to the library, just to use my tax properly if that's the case then...

Don't you see the librarian leaning in to say; 'you aren't allowed to chat in the library'?!

This is not what being professional copywriter is all about. That's why I go to Windmill Hill Business Centre.

And the good news is this: with Regus, I can meet my clients all around the world as long as there are Regus services.

One thing that Swindonian should as well know is this: if I was to write the article I would have written it better than what it is, and that includes getting my name right - not John Paul Lugembe (John Paul II's step brother) but Josh Paul Lugembe.

Lastly, if the library says they want to increase their income so as to stay open, and that means charging 50p...I'm more than happy to pay £1.00. But when they say 50p cuts crimes committed within the libraries then I wonder what they know that Jeremy Browne (Minister for Crime Prevention...) and George Osborne don't.
It's impressive to see all these comments - most of them being in support of what the library is doing. I totally agree with them all (except for those with dirty lines...for you I'm about to introduce 52p). Well, I'm Josh Paul Lugembe - the weird looking guy on this article. First of all, allow me to correct some of the errors on this piece by David Wiles. I'm not upset with the 50p charge as the article tries to convince us. I have paid that only three times since it was introduced. But then, why only three times? Well, because I have my place of work with Regus at Windmill Hill Business Park. I use the library when I have to do some research. As I make a lot of phone calls in the course of my work, how would I do that if Library is my place of work? Also, I have only lived in Swindon for just over a year. Yes, I'm not from Nigeria or Panama but Reading. And while I'm not trying to change anything in Swindon in respect of what I experienced in Reading, I must say, our libraries are our libraries. We are all entitled to use them. We cannot turn them into restaurants as some would like to, we cannot even turn them into some kind of call centre or something - as so many people are trying to by making loud private phone conversation within the libraries with no clue that libraries are supposed to be quiet rooms. Now, if I have only being here for a year or so...then how could I have used library as a place of work for three years? How possibly could I make my every day business calls within the library without being fetched out by those security guys? In fact, you all need to know this. I wanted to write the article myself. I wanted to do it because I was told by the library's manager that '50p reduces crimes'. Really? What crimes are being committed in the library? In fact, I was told that they had to employ the second security guy for the same reason. But what crimes? Asking these questions as a regular library user, it's difficult to get all the answers. The only way to do it, at least for me, was to pitch the idea to the editor who instead passed it to David Wiles, who eventually didn't want me to write it but himself. And yes, I was concerned that Advertiser might write what I didn't say - and miss what I said. And I was right. The day before publication I asked David, 'are you sure your piece will reflect what I wanted to know (and what I think local library users would like to know)? Are you sure this is not going to be about me as it's not about me but about the crimes said to be committed in the library, and that 50p would help to cut them down. Wouldn't it be nice for the Wiltshire Police to know how to cut crimes down by introducing 50p or something? What about the fact that people commit crimes in the library, if it's true, don't we need to do something about that kind of behavior? But before anything gets done...don't we need to understand first the nature of those crimes and the people who commit them? Or, should we think unsafe then to visit our local libraries? Remember, there are children who visit libraries as well...so should their parents worry and think 'libraries are in fact unsafe...so no need to go'? And just to let you know, I do work from home as well. But them is it professional to invite my clients to my home for a business chat while my twin girls are fighting over a dolly's missing eye? What if I invite them to the library, just to use my tax properly if that's the case then... Don't you see the librarian leaning in to say; 'you aren't allowed to chat in the library'?! This is not what being professional copywriter is all about. That's why I go to Windmill Hill Business Centre. And the good news is this: with Regus, I can meet my clients all around the world as long as there are Regus services. One thing that Swindonian should as well know is this: if I was to write the article I would have written it better than what it is, and that includes getting my name right - not John Paul Lugembe (John Paul II's step brother) but Josh Paul Lugembe. Lastly, if the library says they want to increase their income so as to stay open, and that means charging 50p...I'm more than happy to pay £1.00. But when they say 50p cuts crimes committed within the libraries then I wonder what they know that Jeremy Browne (Minister for Crime Prevention...) and George Osborne don't. josure
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