Homeless charity appeals for compassion for town's 750 'invisible' people

This Is Wiltshire: Robert beds down for the night in a multi-storey car park Robert beds down for the night in a multi-storey car park

AS SWINDON tucks into a week of gastronomic festive celebrations, hundreds will be left out in the cold to scavenge for their Christmas dinner.

While families come together around the town to celebrate the season of goodwill, a handful of men and women who have no homes or families to go to will sleep rough in the doorways and car parks of Swindon.

Each year Threshold Housing Link helps more than 750 vulnerable people get off the streets and find a better way of life, but there are simply not enough systems in place to help support some of the town’s most needy.

Part of the trouble is that many people do not recognise how close they are to becoming homeless.

Babs Harris, the business manager at Threshold homelessness charity, said: “These days the living standard is very high, but on average everyone is only two missed pay packets away from being homeless, because people no longer have the reserves to prevent that from happening and they stretch their money as far as it will go.

“This time of year is particularly difficult for homeless people, when people get together and go out for parties and do their shopping, walking past laughing and joking. It is a real slap in the face if you are homeless and have no where to go.”

Another big problem is that there are not enough beds in emergency hostels to go round, and not enough council housing for any but the most vulnerable of people.

“The council hasn’t housed me because I’m not a priority,” said Robert Boston Thomas, 43, who has been on and off the streets for more than 20 years and has to carry his home on his back.

He said: “I carry it around – you can’t leave it anywhere because other people go through it. It’s heavy, and has caused all my back problems.

“I have supplies in there and a spare change of clothes and shoes. I wear everything until it falls apart.

“You do what you can to earn money or get food, whether it’s selling drugs or alcohol or other things.”

Robert thinks the situation could be helped if members of the public chose to address their plight rather than shun them.

He said: “Some people abuse us, spit on us, urinate on us. Others ignore us or shun us. They don’t like seeing us on the streets, but they don’t do anything about it. If you don’t like it, do something about it.

“We’re human beings, we’re not rats. But people treat us like rats.

“I don’t want to be sleeping in a car park, having to search for food and carry everything on my back. But I haven’t got a choice.”

Babs says the treatment Robert has sometimes received from members of the public is a sad fact of living life on the street, and that abuse grows worse during the party season.

She said: “Obviously it’s abysmal and it gets worse over Christmas.

“It tends to be groups of young men who do it when they are out during the party season, when they pass them in the car parks or in shop doorways.

“They think it’s funny. No one would ever do something like that when they were on their own walking down the street.”

Some of the most popular places to sleep rough are multi-storey car parks, which provide shelter from the wind and rain.

Robert said: “You can have a wash but there’s not a lot of point because then you have to sleep on the floor, where people have peed and it’s dirty and dusty. You do what you can to stay clean but you wake up filthy.”

Robert first became homeless when he was 21, and at first he enjoyed the lifestyle.

“It just happened,” he said. “I just went out with mates one day and decided to spend the night on a park bench. One night turned into two and before I knew it I was living on the streets.

“I would go and stay in hostels sometimes but then end up back on the streets.

“When I turned 40 I realised I didn’t want this any more. I’ve got arthritis and I don’t want to be here. But I can’t get anywhere to live, and who wants a member of staff who is filthy and lives on the streets?”

Robert thinks that the recent benefit cuts will have a huge effect on the number of homeless in the town. He said: “It’s a ticking time bomb. At the moment there are more people sleeping on other people’s sofas because they have been thrown out or they can’t pay their bills because of the cuts.

“And it’s been getting worse.

“A lot of the people out on the street have mental health issues as well as physical issues, but there isn’t much help for us.

“We all know each other and help each other. Sometimes when you hear that somebody died because of alcohol or an overdose it is worrying, but what can you do?”

Although the weather has been mild for this time of year, Threshold staff are concerned about how difficult it is for those out on the streets at this time of year.

The charity is always in need of warm blankets and coats, particularly during the winter, as well as food and other items they can use to help people who find themselves homeless around the town.

To donate food, blankets and warm coats, take the items to Culvery Court, in Harding Street. To find out more about Threshold, visit www.thl.org.uk or call 01793 524661.

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6:21pm Mon 23 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

I'm afraid many are struggling to make ends meet themselves. Having watched a lot of programmes at various times about so called homeless people it seems many actually choose the life style, for whatever reason. I even read of a guy in a good ,well paid job that chose to live in a tent. Choice.
I'm afraid many are struggling to make ends meet themselves. Having watched a lot of programmes at various times about so called homeless people it seems many actually choose the life style, for whatever reason. I even read of a guy in a good ,well paid job that chose to live in a tent. Choice. RichardR1

6:33pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

Not all of us walk on by, abuse and insult or cast such ill informed judgements on this website about the homeless and needy. There are some people left who care and try to do something.

Many comments on here about this subject recently are appalling. No more so than the one above from Bobfm aka Richard.
Not all of us walk on by, abuse and insult or cast such ill informed judgements on this website about the homeless and needy. There are some people left who care and try to do something. Many comments on here about this subject recently are appalling. No more so than the one above from Bobfm aka Richard. Davey Gravey

7:59pm Mon 23 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.
Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess. RichardR1

8:00pm Mon 23 Dec 13

house on the hill says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Not all of us walk on by, abuse and insult or cast such ill informed judgements on this website about the homeless and needy. There are some people left who care and try to do something.

Many comments on here about this subject recently are appalling. No more so than the one above from Bobfm aka Richard.
There always 2 sides to this and it isnt as black and white as you seem to always believe. After nearly 10 years in social housing and 15 years of debt recovery/counselling I can tell you from the inside that yes there are some in great need of our help and some who know very well how to play the system. And there are those as the first poster says who you truly cant help as they don't want to be helped.

Reality is not abuse or ill informed judgement, it is just that reality. The same is true of the food banks, some are in genuine need, but others still drink and smoke and have mobile phones and see the various charities as a way of funding that, by getting their food there. For many it isnt about much or how little money they have it is about how they spend it. I have seen thousands go bankrupt who didnt need to and hundreds evicted from their homes purely because they chose to spend their money on luxuries over neccessities.

Just handing stuff out isnt always the answer, but to many its a nice quick answer, instead of dealing with the real problem of helping to educate and support them better, not to mention those who like to make themselves feel better by just giving something and then walking away. Just handing over money or goods may be your way of fixing things but sadly it doesnt address what is really needed.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Not all of us walk on by, abuse and insult or cast such ill informed judgements on this website about the homeless and needy. There are some people left who care and try to do something. Many comments on here about this subject recently are appalling. No more so than the one above from Bobfm aka Richard.[/p][/quote]There always 2 sides to this and it isnt as black and white as you seem to always believe. After nearly 10 years in social housing and 15 years of debt recovery/counselling I can tell you from the inside that yes there are some in great need of our help and some who know very well how to play the system. And there are those as the first poster says who you truly cant help as they don't want to be helped. Reality is not abuse or ill informed judgement, it is just that reality. The same is true of the food banks, some are in genuine need, but others still drink and smoke and have mobile phones and see the various charities as a way of funding that, by getting their food there. For many it isnt about much or how little money they have it is about how they spend it. I have seen thousands go bankrupt who didnt need to and hundreds evicted from their homes purely because they chose to spend their money on luxuries over neccessities. Just handing stuff out isnt always the answer, but to many its a nice quick answer, instead of dealing with the real problem of helping to educate and support them better, not to mention those who like to make themselves feel better by just giving something and then walking away. Just handing over money or goods may be your way of fixing things but sadly it doesnt address what is really needed. house on the hill

8:29pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.
How am I trolling? A bit rich coming from you bobfm. The biggest troll this site has ever see. I guess its also a coincidence how your comment went from -5 to +5 in the space of a few mins and mine went the other way just as quickly.
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.[/p][/quote]How am I trolling? A bit rich coming from you bobfm. The biggest troll this site has ever see. I guess its also a coincidence how your comment went from -5 to +5 in the space of a few mins and mine went the other way just as quickly. Davey Gravey

8:36pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
RichardR1 wrote:
Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.
How am I trolling? A bit rich coming from you bobfm. The biggest troll this site has ever see. I guess its also a coincidence how your comment went from -5 to +5 in the space of a few mins and mine went the other way just as quickly.
You've admitted always voting my posts down whenever you see them, can you be surprised if others then do the same to you?

There is a lot of dubious use of the 'thumb' system. I notice that both you and Empty Car Park often go from -4 or so to a +4 within around 60 seconds, odd that, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.[/p][/quote]How am I trolling? A bit rich coming from you bobfm. The biggest troll this site has ever see. I guess its also a coincidence how your comment went from -5 to +5 in the space of a few mins and mine went the other way just as quickly.[/p][/quote]You've admitted always voting my posts down whenever you see them, can you be surprised if others then do the same to you? There is a lot of dubious use of the 'thumb' system. I notice that both you and Empty Car Park often go from -4 or so to a +4 within around 60 seconds, odd that, isn't it? Ringer

8:38pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

Keep hitting those thumbs. The real trolls. Hilarious how quickly you do it. Morons!
Keep hitting those thumbs. The real trolls. Hilarious how quickly you do it. Morons! Davey Gravey

8:45pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

Ringer wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
RichardR1 wrote:
Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.
How am I trolling? A bit rich coming from you bobfm. The biggest troll this site has ever see. I guess its also a coincidence how your comment went from -5 to +5 in the space of a few mins and mine went the other way just as quickly.
You've admitted always voting my posts down whenever you see them, can you be surprised if others then do the same to you?

There is a lot of dubious use of the 'thumb' system. I notice that both you and Empty Car Park often go from -4 or so to a +4 within around 60 seconds, odd that, isn't it?
I've not admitted that as it is a lie. As is the tactic you employ yet accuse me of it.
Time to do something about it.
[quote][p][bold]Ringer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.[/p][/quote]How am I trolling? A bit rich coming from you bobfm. The biggest troll this site has ever see. I guess its also a coincidence how your comment went from -5 to +5 in the space of a few mins and mine went the other way just as quickly.[/p][/quote]You've admitted always voting my posts down whenever you see them, can you be surprised if others then do the same to you? There is a lot of dubious use of the 'thumb' system. I notice that both you and Empty Car Park often go from -4 or so to a +4 within around 60 seconds, odd that, isn't it?[/p][/quote]I've not admitted that as it is a lie. As is the tactic you employ yet accuse me of it. Time to do something about it. Davey Gravey

9:13pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Tyran66 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Not all of us walk on by, abuse and insult or cast such ill informed judgements on this website about the homeless and needy. There are some people left who care and try to do something.

Many comments on here about this subject recently are appalling. No more so than the one above from Bobfm aka Richard.
I cannot see that he has said anything is even mildly offensive, let alone "appalling". What I can see is that you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder with a few members (bearing in mind I am relatively new and unaligned) and as a result you seem all too eager to resort to insults and unsubstantiated hyperbole.

Its a fact, many of the homeless choose to be homeless. Just as some don't. What's is the issue?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Not all of us walk on by, abuse and insult or cast such ill informed judgements on this website about the homeless and needy. There are some people left who care and try to do something. Many comments on here about this subject recently are appalling. No more so than the one above from Bobfm aka Richard.[/p][/quote]I cannot see that he has said anything is even mildly offensive, let alone "appalling". What I can see is that you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder with a few members (bearing in mind I am relatively new and unaligned) and as a result you seem all too eager to resort to insults and unsubstantiated hyperbole. Its a fact, many of the homeless choose to be homeless. Just as some don't. What's is the issue? Tyran66

10:23pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Empty Car Park says...

Is it really too much to ask for people to show a little compassion at christmas time?

For anyone believing that RichardR1 is Robfm, please remember that Robfm used to post prolifically on virtually every topic. Not just an occasional remark on a random topic

Back on topic...
In adverse weather, where some are reluctant to go outside or even drive, it's difficult to believe that some would CHOOSE to be homeless.

I remember walking the dog before setting off for work one morning, the dog found someone asleep in the park.
There were 2 inches of snow on the ground at the time and the guy had one blanket.
That is not a choice.
To make things worse, the local yobs later stole his shoes.

I don't care how many thumbs (up or down) that I get for making this comment
Is it really too much to ask for people to show a little compassion at christmas time? For anyone believing that RichardR1 is Robfm, please remember that Robfm used to post prolifically on virtually every topic. Not just an occasional remark on a random topic Back on topic... In adverse weather, where some are reluctant to go outside or even drive, it's difficult to believe that some would CHOOSE to be homeless. I remember walking the dog before setting off for work one morning, the dog found someone asleep in the park. There were 2 inches of snow on the ground at the time and the guy had one blanket. That is not a choice. To make things worse, the local yobs later stole his shoes. I don't care how many thumbs (up or down) that I get for making this comment Empty Car Park

10:54pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Davethered says...

It's time the administrator at the adver stopped these people with multi log on. It doesn't do the paper any justice when the same person makes multiple quotes under different names . Also it's boring for the people who want to have a decent discussion . Behind the keyboard bullies come to mind.
It's time the administrator at the adver stopped these people with multi log on. It doesn't do the paper any justice when the same person makes multiple quotes under different names . Also it's boring for the people who want to have a decent discussion . Behind the keyboard bullies come to mind. Davethered

6:16am Tue 24 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Davethered wrote:
It's time the administrator at the adver stopped these people with multi log on. It doesn't do the paper any justice when the same person makes multiple quotes under different names . Also it's boring for the people who want to have a decent discussion . Behind the keyboard bullies come to mind.
You're aware of Empty Car Park's work then? Yes, he should be stopped. He should be banned, really, and I would not say that about anyone else, not even Davey.
[quote][p][bold]Davethered[/bold] wrote: It's time the administrator at the adver stopped these people with multi log on. It doesn't do the paper any justice when the same person makes multiple quotes under different names . Also it's boring for the people who want to have a decent discussion . Behind the keyboard bullies come to mind.[/p][/quote]You're aware of Empty Car Park's work then? Yes, he should be stopped. He should be banned, really, and I would not say that about anyone else, not even Davey. Ringer

7:43am Tue 24 Dec 13

Ringеr says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.
Bob, most regular visitors to this site know exactly who you are and they also haven't forgotten the fact that you were the worst troll to ever urinate over these forums. Were it not for the fact that itsamess seems to have disappeared I've no doubt you'd still be doing it now.
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Trolling again Davey I see. What's wrong with pointing out the truth and where did I post anything remotely as you describe. Just part of the troll mentality I guess.[/p][/quote]Bob, most regular visitors to this site know exactly who you are and they also haven't forgotten the fact that you were the worst troll to ever urinate over these forums. Were it not for the fact that itsamess seems to have disappeared I've no doubt you'd still be doing it now. Ringеr

8:41am Tue 24 Dec 13

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Is it really too much to ask for people to show a little compassion at christmas time?

For anyone believing that RichardR1 is Robfm, please remember that Robfm used to post prolifically on virtually every topic. Not just an occasional remark on a random topic

Back on topic...
In adverse weather, where some are reluctant to go outside or even drive, it's difficult to believe that some would CHOOSE to be homeless.

I remember walking the dog before setting off for work one morning, the dog found someone asleep in the park.
There were 2 inches of snow on the ground at the time and the guy had one blanket.
That is not a choice.
To make things worse, the local yobs later stole his shoes.

I don't care how many thumbs (up or down) that I get for making this comment
So what did you do? Did you try to help him? Did you ask him if he had chosen to be there? Did you find out what his story was?
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: Is it really too much to ask for people to show a little compassion at christmas time? For anyone believing that RichardR1 is Robfm, please remember that Robfm used to post prolifically on virtually every topic. Not just an occasional remark on a random topic Back on topic... In adverse weather, where some are reluctant to go outside or even drive, it's difficult to believe that some would CHOOSE to be homeless. I remember walking the dog before setting off for work one morning, the dog found someone asleep in the park. There were 2 inches of snow on the ground at the time and the guy had one blanket. That is not a choice. To make things worse, the local yobs later stole his shoes. I don't care how many thumbs (up or down) that I get for making this comment[/p][/quote]So what did you do? Did you try to help him? Did you ask him if he had chosen to be there? Did you find out what his story was? The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man

10:08am Tue 24 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

Ringer why have you suddenly turned your attention getting bored with attacking others. I seem to recall some suggestion Robfm was also Itsamess, but then there is a lot of speculation on this forum.

Back to thread those who are homeless through no fault of their own should be helped, but not just to allow them to use their benefits to purchase more booze or drugs.
Ringer why have you suddenly turned your attention getting bored with attacking others. I seem to recall some suggestion Robfm was also Itsamess, but then there is a lot of speculation on this forum. Back to thread those who are homeless through no fault of their own should be helped, but not just to allow them to use their benefits to purchase more booze or drugs. RichardR1

11:06am Tue 24 Dec 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

According to the article, the individual mentioned chose albeit 20 years ago to live on the street. Now he seems to expect society to provide for him because he has changed his mind.

Quite a few people I know, no longer give to beggars or the homeless on the streets, because for some (and I expect it to be a small minority) have chosen it as a way to earn a living from other people's good nature and sympathetic views. A good friend of mine was insulted and abused by one who they offered to buy food and a hot drink for because they were only interested in getting cash.

Instead they (and I) give donations to charities supporting the homeless.
According to the article, the individual mentioned chose albeit 20 years ago to live on the street. Now he seems to expect society to provide for him because he has changed his mind. Quite a few people I know, no longer give to beggars or the homeless on the streets, because for some (and I expect it to be a small minority) have chosen it as a way to earn a living from other people's good nature and sympathetic views. A good friend of mine was insulted and abused by one who they offered to buy food and a hot drink for because they were only interested in getting cash. Instead they (and I) give donations to charities supporting the homeless. LordAshOfTheBrake

12:59pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Ringer says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Ringer why have you suddenly turned your attention getting bored with attacking others. I seem to recall some suggestion Robfm was also Itsamess, but then there is a lot of speculation on this forum.

Back to thread those who are homeless through no fault of their own should be helped, but not just to allow them to use their benefits to purchase more booze or drugs.
The comment you're referring to was not made by me, but by a cretin who has found a way to either register with the same username or who knows my login details.

I have reported it, several times, to the Adver and they've done nothing.

Much the same as they've done nothing about Empty Car Park manipulating the 'thumbs' voting and his multiple voting on the recent poll regarding the mayor. It's no surprise that he accuses others of doing what he knows he does because he judges everyone else by his own, low, standards. It's also why he fanatically accuses others of using multiple logins, while he himself uses about six now.
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Ringer why have you suddenly turned your attention getting bored with attacking others. I seem to recall some suggestion Robfm was also Itsamess, but then there is a lot of speculation on this forum. Back to thread those who are homeless through no fault of their own should be helped, but not just to allow them to use their benefits to purchase more booze or drugs.[/p][/quote]The comment you're referring to was not made by me, but by a cretin who has found a way to either register with the same username or who knows my login details. I have reported it, several times, to the Adver and they've done nothing. Much the same as they've done nothing about Empty Car Park manipulating the 'thumbs' voting and his multiple voting on the recent poll regarding the mayor. It's no surprise that he accuses others of doing what he knows he does because he judges everyone else by his own, low, standards. It's also why he fanatically accuses others of using multiple logins, while he himself uses about six now. Ringer

2:12pm Tue 24 Dec 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:
According to the article, the individual mentioned chose albeit 20 years ago to live on the street. Now he seems to expect society to provide for him because he has changed his mind.

Quite a few people I know, no longer give to beggars or the homeless on the streets, because for some (and I expect it to be a small minority) have chosen it as a way to earn a living from other people's good nature and sympathetic views. A good friend of mine was insulted and abused by one who they offered to buy food and a hot drink for because they were only interested in getting cash.

Instead they (and I) give donations to charities supporting the homeless.
Well that's an interesting set of down voting.....!

The first statement is based on the content of the article.

The second is based on my interaction with people I know and the experiences of a good friend; so that isn't really debatable since its fact.

The third statement says that I give to charities supporting the homeless is also fact based.


Perhaps someone takes exception to the fact I do give money to charity.....!
[quote][p][bold]LordAshOfTheBrake[/bold] wrote: According to the article, the individual mentioned chose albeit 20 years ago to live on the street. Now he seems to expect society to provide for him because he has changed his mind. Quite a few people I know, no longer give to beggars or the homeless on the streets, because for some (and I expect it to be a small minority) have chosen it as a way to earn a living from other people's good nature and sympathetic views. A good friend of mine was insulted and abused by one who they offered to buy food and a hot drink for because they were only interested in getting cash. Instead they (and I) give donations to charities supporting the homeless.[/p][/quote]Well that's an interesting set of down voting.....! The first statement is based on the content of the article. The second is based on my interaction with people I know and the experiences of a good friend; so that isn't really debatable since its fact. The third statement says that I give to charities supporting the homeless is also fact based. Perhaps someone takes exception to the fact I do give money to charity.....! LordAshOfTheBrake

8:38pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Empty Car Park says...

So what did you do? Did you try to help him? Did you ask him if he had chosen to be there? Did you find out what his story was?


I gave him a flask of hot tea and left to go to work.

I wasn't there when his shoes got stolen. That was later in the day
[quote]So what did you do? Did you try to help him? Did you ask him if he had chosen to be there? Did you find out what his story was?[/quote] I gave him a flask of hot tea and left to go to work. I wasn't there when his shoes got stolen. That was later in the day Empty Car Park

10:08am Thu 26 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

Ringer thank you for your response. There does seem to be someone or perhaps more than one who clones logins. I recall reading previously some boasting how easy it is.

Back to thread. The genuine needy should be helped. I remember reading in another local paper how a guy in Cirencester had a council flat with associated benefits but went into the town everyday begging. He apparently boasted about making £500 a week and it took the authorities ages to act to stop him.
Ringer thank you for your response. There does seem to be someone or perhaps more than one who clones logins. I recall reading previously some boasting how easy it is. Back to thread. The genuine needy should be helped. I remember reading in another local paper how a guy in Cirencester had a council flat with associated benefits but went into the town everyday begging. He apparently boasted about making £500 a week and it took the authorities ages to act to stop him. RichardR1

4:14pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Ringеr says...

RichardR1 wrote:
Ringer thank you for your response. There does seem to be someone or perhaps more than one who clones logins. I recall reading previously some boasting how easy it is.

Back to thread. The genuine needy should be helped. I remember reading in another local paper how a guy in Cirencester had a council flat with associated benefits but went into the town everyday begging. He apparently boasted about making £500 a week and it took the authorities ages to act to stop him.
As I said Bob, I have reported the cretin but they've done nothing about it. I also recall you had your previous 'RobFM' login cloned. The adver did seem to nip that in the bud at the time but now they don't apparently care.
[quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Ringer thank you for your response. There does seem to be someone or perhaps more than one who clones logins. I recall reading previously some boasting how easy it is. Back to thread. The genuine needy should be helped. I remember reading in another local paper how a guy in Cirencester had a council flat with associated benefits but went into the town everyday begging. He apparently boasted about making £500 a week and it took the authorities ages to act to stop him.[/p][/quote]As I said Bob, I have reported the cretin but they've done nothing about it. I also recall you had your previous 'RobFM' login cloned. The adver did seem to nip that in the bud at the time but now they don't apparently care. Ringеr

4:38pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

good grief. The hypocrisy is laughable
good grief. The hypocrisy is laughable Davey Gravey

5:29pm Thu 26 Dec 13

semitonic says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
good grief. The hypocrisy is laughable
Indeed - the best laugh I've had all day.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: good grief. The hypocrisy is laughable[/p][/quote]Indeed - the best laugh I've had all day. semitonic

9:50am Fri 27 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Ringеr wrote:
RichardR1 wrote:
Ringer thank you for your response. There does seem to be someone or perhaps more than one who clones logins. I recall reading previously some boasting how easy it is.

Back to thread. The genuine needy should be helped. I remember reading in another local paper how a guy in Cirencester had a council flat with associated benefits but went into the town everyday begging. He apparently boasted about making £500 a week and it took the authorities ages to act to stop him.
As I said Bob, I have reported the cretin but they've done nothing about it. I also recall you had your previous 'RobFM' login cloned. The adver did seem to nip that in the bud at the time but now they don't apparently care.
Yes, very clever - that wasn't me.
[quote][p][bold]Ringеr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichardR1[/bold] wrote: Ringer thank you for your response. There does seem to be someone or perhaps more than one who clones logins. I recall reading previously some boasting how easy it is. Back to thread. The genuine needy should be helped. I remember reading in another local paper how a guy in Cirencester had a council flat with associated benefits but went into the town everyday begging. He apparently boasted about making £500 a week and it took the authorities ages to act to stop him.[/p][/quote]As I said Bob, I have reported the cretin but they've done nothing about it. I also recall you had your previous 'RobFM' login cloned. The adver did seem to nip that in the bud at the time but now they don't apparently care.[/p][/quote]Yes, very clever - that wasn't me. Ringer

2:41pm Fri 27 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

Strange how the master cloner returns to the site when it starts happening again. Tragic people.
Strange how the master cloner returns to the site when it starts happening again. Tragic people. RichardR1

8:26pm Fri 27 Dec 13

semitonic says...

That's exactly what I thought Robbo, but then it can't be you can it, surely? You're as thick as two short planks, you couldn't possibly do that - you even thought the spellchecker was built in to the Adver website, via your "pier to pier net work"!
That's exactly what I thought Robbo, but then it can't be you can it, surely? You're as thick as two short planks, you couldn't possibly do that - you even thought the spellchecker was built in to the Adver website, via your "pier to pier net work"! semitonic

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