Fear cheats might exploit foodbanks

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SWINDON Foodbank is at risk of being exploited by phony claimants who plead with GPs to refer them to the charity despite knowing nothing of their financial situation.

Doctors, along with social workers, health visitors and social organisations, have the power to refer members of the public who are most in need to foodbank organisations, who offer food handouts.

These professional groups act as a filter for foodbanks, deciding who is and who is not in genuine need of help with food.

However, Peter Swinyard, a practitioner at Phoenix Surgery in Toothill, and chair of the Family Doctors Association, does not believe GPs are best placed to make such crucial decisions.

He said: “In all honesty I don’t think we are best placed to decide who goes to foodbanks, because we don’t know what their financial circumstances are.

“It is very difficult for us to see who is in need and who is not. People can play the system.

“This is better done by the social services, who actually look into someone’s financial situation, and make a logical decision.

“I don’t know where this [referral system] was dumped from.

“When I see anything that says GPs are best placed to do something, I come out in a horrible rash.”

The potential for phony claimants may rise in balance with the soaring numbers who seek to claim food handouts from Swindon Foodbank.

At the start of last month, demand for the help on offer at the foodbank would rise by 25 per cent in comparison with previous years, according to David Hartridge, the project manager in Swindon.

At the time, David said he was confident the rising numbers were a direct result of more people falling into crisis.

He said: “It was much busier than normal [ahead of Christmas], probably 25 per cent up year-on-year. This could be down to factors including an awareness that help is at hand.

“More and more people know the foodbank is there.

“Michael Gove seemed to dismiss the increase in usage simply being along the lines of more awareness.

“I am 100 per cent adamant people genuinely need more help.

“Unfortunately this is just a feature of the economic difficulties that individuals and families face today.”

As a part of the foodbank’s desire to meet the needs of those in crisis, it this week opened a satellite collection station in West Swindon, which has already had an impact on Dr Swinyard and his colleagues.

“We have just been asked by a new foodbank in Freshbrook if there was anyone we could recommend they contact with help,” he said.

“I don’t wish to deny people access to foodbanks, I want the right people to get access.

“This is a lifeline for people and it must not be abused. I just don’t think we are best placed to give this the okay. How can I know if someone is poor or not?”

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7:07am Mon 3 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

A sad but true worry and one that a few of us having been trying to point out for a while. There should be a check first before free food is just given away and some bugetting advice too to help them understand and manage their money better would help.
A sad but true worry and one that a few of us having been trying to point out for a while. There should be a check first before free food is just given away and some bugetting advice too to help them understand and manage their money better would help. house on the hill

8:17am Mon 3 Feb 14

Chowmai says...

Peter Swinyard, thank you for being brave enough to actually voice some common realistic sense.
The obvious place to be the only point of referral for vouchers for the foodbank is the Swindon Emergency Assistance Fund which runs out of the one stop shop at Wat Tyler House.
That way those in genuine need will be given or signposted to the right help and the pressure will be off others who have to maintain a relationship with those who request assistance.
Peter Swinyard, thank you for being brave enough to actually voice some common realistic sense. The obvious place to be the only point of referral for vouchers for the foodbank is the Swindon Emergency Assistance Fund which runs out of the one stop shop at Wat Tyler House. That way those in genuine need will be given or signposted to the right help and the pressure will be off others who have to maintain a relationship with those who request assistance. Chowmai

8:23am Mon 3 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

Chowmai wrote:
Peter Swinyard, thank you for being brave enough to actually voice some common realistic sense.
The obvious place to be the only point of referral for vouchers for the foodbank is the Swindon Emergency Assistance Fund which runs out of the one stop shop at Wat Tyler House.
That way those in genuine need will be given or signposted to the right help and the pressure will be off others who have to maintain a relationship with those who request assistance.
Agree but as with everything it depends on the the people making that decision too. We need to stop blindly giving out stuff without looking at the root cause. For many bad budgeting and not prioritising are the main issues and there should be help with that to help them understand better that they need to take control of their lives. The food bank do a very good job, but some still take advantage way too much.
[quote][p][bold]Chowmai[/bold] wrote: Peter Swinyard, thank you for being brave enough to actually voice some common realistic sense. The obvious place to be the only point of referral for vouchers for the foodbank is the Swindon Emergency Assistance Fund which runs out of the one stop shop at Wat Tyler House. That way those in genuine need will be given or signposted to the right help and the pressure will be off others who have to maintain a relationship with those who request assistance.[/p][/quote]Agree but as with everything it depends on the the people making that decision too. We need to stop blindly giving out stuff without looking at the root cause. For many bad budgeting and not prioritising are the main issues and there should be help with that to help them understand better that they need to take control of their lives. The food bank do a very good job, but some still take advantage way too much. house on the hill

10:36am Mon 3 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

I completely agree with the Dr. They have nothing to do with patients finances.
I completely agree with the Dr. They have nothing to do with patients finances. Davey Gravey

12:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Very brave of the doctor to highlight this growing problem.
Very brave of the doctor to highlight this growing problem. ChannelX

12:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

beach1e says...

theres enough cheats sponging benefits so why does anyone think the foodbanks would be any different, its a sad fact of life that some people are just out to take all they can, they have no morals and are disgusting excuses for humans.
theres enough cheats sponging benefits so why does anyone think the foodbanks would be any different, its a sad fact of life that some people are just out to take all they can, they have no morals and are disgusting excuses for humans. beach1e

12:57pm Mon 3 Feb 14

swindondad says...

It is sad but true; some people will go out of their way to take advantage of the generosity of others.

Even whilst this country continues to provide some of the highest levels of benefits in the world there will always be individuals / families that fall through the cracks and need emergency help. I do not begrudge help to those who are through no fault of their own in genuine need and when it comes to something as basic as food for the table I would sooner that a few “unworthy” manage to cheat a system rather than it be so complicated / long winded that those in true need go hungry.
It is sad but true; some people will go out of their way to take advantage of the generosity of others. Even whilst this country continues to provide some of the highest levels of benefits in the world there will always be individuals / families that fall through the cracks and need emergency help. I do not begrudge help to those who are through no fault of their own in genuine need and when it comes to something as basic as food for the table I would sooner that a few “unworthy” manage to cheat a system rather than it be so complicated / long winded that those in true need go hungry. swindondad

1:28pm Mon 3 Feb 14

nigelej says...

swindondad wrote:
It is sad but true; some people will go out of their way to take advantage of the generosity of others.

Even whilst this country continues to provide some of the highest levels of benefits in the world there will always be individuals / families that fall through the cracks and need emergency help. I do not begrudge help to those who are through no fault of their own in genuine need and when it comes to something as basic as food for the table I would sooner that a few “unworthy” manage to cheat a system rather than it be so complicated / long winded that those in true need go hungry.
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone had your outlook .you should bottle it up and pass it around . I think in this day and age the fact we have food banks is a disgrace and we need to look at why on earth do we need them .mostly due to unfair sanctions being put on people on benefits example a man as a heart attack during his assesmentambulance is called then they stop his money because he failed to continue with the assesment this is a major problem that needs to addressed urgently
[quote][p][bold]swindondad[/bold] wrote: It is sad but true; some people will go out of their way to take advantage of the generosity of others. Even whilst this country continues to provide some of the highest levels of benefits in the world there will always be individuals / families that fall through the cracks and need emergency help. I do not begrudge help to those who are through no fault of their own in genuine need and when it comes to something as basic as food for the table I would sooner that a few “unworthy” manage to cheat a system rather than it be so complicated / long winded that those in true need go hungry.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't it be nice if everyone had your outlook .you should bottle it up and pass it around . I think in this day and age the fact we have food banks is a disgrace and we need to look at why on earth do we need them .mostly due to unfair sanctions being put on people on benefits example a man as a heart attack during his assesmentambulance is called then they stop his money because he failed to continue with the assesment this is a major problem that needs to addressed urgently nigelej

1:48pm Mon 3 Feb 14

stfcdod says...

house on the hill wrote:
Chowmai wrote:
Peter Swinyard, thank you for being brave enough to actually voice some common realistic sense.
The obvious place to be the only point of referral for vouchers for the foodbank is the Swindon Emergency Assistance Fund which runs out of the one stop shop at Wat Tyler House.
That way those in genuine need will be given or signposted to the right help and the pressure will be off others who have to maintain a relationship with those who request assistance.
Agree but as with everything it depends on the the people making that decision too. We need to stop blindly giving out stuff without looking at the root cause. For many bad budgeting and not prioritising are the main issues and there should be help with that to help them understand better that they need to take control of their lives. The food bank do a very good job, but some still take advantage way too much.
Totally agree. Food banks may be necessary for some but how about the claimants who smoke, drink and have 38" tv's and Sky, giving up some of those luxuries before sponging off others.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chowmai[/bold] wrote: Peter Swinyard, thank you for being brave enough to actually voice some common realistic sense. The obvious place to be the only point of referral for vouchers for the foodbank is the Swindon Emergency Assistance Fund which runs out of the one stop shop at Wat Tyler House. That way those in genuine need will be given or signposted to the right help and the pressure will be off others who have to maintain a relationship with those who request assistance.[/p][/quote]Agree but as with everything it depends on the the people making that decision too. We need to stop blindly giving out stuff without looking at the root cause. For many bad budgeting and not prioritising are the main issues and there should be help with that to help them understand better that they need to take control of their lives. The food bank do a very good job, but some still take advantage way too much.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Food banks may be necessary for some but how about the claimants who smoke, drink and have 38" tv's and Sky, giving up some of those luxuries before sponging off others. stfcdod

1:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

nigelej wrote:
swindondad wrote:
It is sad but true; some people will go out of their way to take advantage of the generosity of others.

Even whilst this country continues to provide some of the highest levels of benefits in the world there will always be individuals / families that fall through the cracks and need emergency help. I do not begrudge help to those who are through no fault of their own in genuine need and when it comes to something as basic as food for the table I would sooner that a few “unworthy” manage to cheat a system rather than it be so complicated / long winded that those in true need go hungry.
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone had your outlook .you should bottle it up and pass it around . I think in this day and age the fact we have food banks is a disgrace and we need to look at why on earth do we need them .mostly due to unfair sanctions being put on people on benefits example a man as a heart attack during his assesmentambulance is called then they stop his money because he failed to continue with the assesment this is a major problem that needs to addressed urgently
You could say that about any charity in the World Nigel, that Govts should never let it get to that stage where they don't even have basic food and shelter, but Utopia doesn't exist. We have to be realistic.

No benefits system will ever be perfect and some will fall through the cracks and some will always abuse it. All we can do is work with what we have to firstly ensure those in genuine need are always looked after and those who do abuse it treated with the contempt they deserve. From my experience of working in social housing, trust me that isnt always easy!
[quote][p][bold]nigelej[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swindondad[/bold] wrote: It is sad but true; some people will go out of their way to take advantage of the generosity of others. Even whilst this country continues to provide some of the highest levels of benefits in the world there will always be individuals / families that fall through the cracks and need emergency help. I do not begrudge help to those who are through no fault of their own in genuine need and when it comes to something as basic as food for the table I would sooner that a few “unworthy” manage to cheat a system rather than it be so complicated / long winded that those in true need go hungry.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't it be nice if everyone had your outlook .you should bottle it up and pass it around . I think in this day and age the fact we have food banks is a disgrace and we need to look at why on earth do we need them .mostly due to unfair sanctions being put on people on benefits example a man as a heart attack during his assesmentambulance is called then they stop his money because he failed to continue with the assesment this is a major problem that needs to addressed urgently[/p][/quote]You could say that about any charity in the World Nigel, that Govts should never let it get to that stage where they don't even have basic food and shelter, but Utopia doesn't exist. We have to be realistic. No benefits system will ever be perfect and some will fall through the cracks and some will always abuse it. All we can do is work with what we have to firstly ensure those in genuine need are always looked after and those who do abuse it treated with the contempt they deserve. From my experience of working in social housing, trust me that isnt always easy! house on the hill

2:09pm Mon 3 Feb 14

bampi says...

Big splash on the news recently how food bank usage has shot up over past year, and what a disgrace it is....of course it has the waifs and strays taking all they can get their hands on whether they need it or not.

"Would you care for some free food as well as a cash hand out?" "Oh no not for me thanks I have plenty." said the scrounger; I don't think so!!!!!
Big splash on the news recently how food bank usage has shot up over past year, and what a disgrace it is....of course it has the waifs and strays taking all they can get their hands on whether they need it or not. "Would you care for some free food as well as a cash hand out?" "Oh no not for me thanks I have plenty." said the scrounger; I don't think so!!!!! bampi

2:24pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

You only have to watch Benefits Street to see the reality of people who exist on benefits. The majority have money for cigarettes, booze, drugs, large screen TVs, mobile phones, pets... all of which are purely lifestyle choices and ones that, for most people, would come far down a list of 'essentials'.

Of course people will try and get hold of free food if they think it's available, why wouldn't they? If you're already happy to exist on handouts that are taken from other people, why not just add food to the list of free stuff?

That then frees up even more money for the cigarettes, booze, drugs, large screen TVs, mobile phones and pets.

As long as Foodbanks remain in operation, the 'demand' will grow. It rarelt has anything to do with genuine need as this country is already forced to pay for one of the most generous welfare benefits systems in the world.

If you hand out free food to people, don't be surprised when lots of them turn up to collect it so that they can spend the rest of their money on 'other' things.
You only have to watch Benefits Street to see the reality of people who exist on benefits. The majority have money for cigarettes, booze, drugs, large screen TVs, mobile phones, pets... all of which are purely lifestyle choices and ones that, for most people, would come far down a list of 'essentials'. Of course people will try and get hold of free food if they think it's available, why wouldn't they? If you're already happy to exist on handouts that are taken from other people, why not just add food to the list of free stuff? That then frees up even more money for the cigarettes, booze, drugs, large screen TVs, mobile phones and pets. As long as Foodbanks remain in operation, the 'demand' will grow. It rarelt has anything to do with genuine need as this country is already forced to pay for one of the most generous welfare benefits systems in the world. If you hand out free food to people, don't be surprised when lots of them turn up to collect it so that they can spend the rest of their money on 'other' things. ChannelX

2:34pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

One very simple way to ensure people do not go hungry would be to pay the element of benefits that has been calculated to be necessary to buy food as vouchers with the recipient's name printed on.

The vouchers could only then be spent in supermarkets and with valid ID. It should also be made illegal for anyone to purchase those food vouchers.

Sure, some benefit types would buy things to sell to get cash, but nobody could ever truly claim they had 'no money to eat'.

An easy system to implement as they already do it with the free food vouchers that parents on benefits receive.

After all, surely everyone wants to make sure people have enough food to eat, right?
One very simple way to ensure people do not go hungry would be to pay the element of benefits that has been calculated to be necessary to buy food as vouchers with the recipient's name printed on. The vouchers could only then be spent in supermarkets and with valid ID. It should also be made illegal for anyone to purchase those food vouchers. Sure, some benefit types would buy things to sell to get cash, but nobody could ever truly claim they had 'no money to eat'. An easy system to implement as they already do it with the free food vouchers that parents on benefits receive. After all, surely everyone wants to make sure people have enough food to eat, right? ChannelX

4:32pm Mon 3 Feb 14

loosewoman says...

What a load of ignorant rubbish has been spouted on here. Do you know how much a job-seeker gets? £70 a week. Could you pay for everything out of that? Thought not. As for 'prioritising' your budget, have you ever had to choose between having a roof over your heads or feeding your kids? Thought not. The vast majority of those who use food banks are in genuine and desperate need, fueled by unfair sanctions from the Job Centre, who seem to be able to stop benefits on a whim, the impositions of the bedroom tax which penalises people with a 'spare bedroom' even though there are no smaller properties for them to move into, and the changes to disabled benefits which means, again, that many people who can't possibly work (including the terminally ill) are judged 'fit' and have their money cut off.
Note that this doctor has no actual proof whatsoever that anyone is actually abusing the system, he's just expressing his concern.
You can't just turn up at a food bank and demand a handout, you have to be referred, and you can't keep going back week after week, most foodbanks will only allow you to visit three or four times a year.

As for voucher, how demeaning. Have we lost all humanity in this country? Judging from the comments above, we've certainly lost it in parts of Wiltshire.
What a load of ignorant rubbish has been spouted on here. Do you know how much a job-seeker gets? £70 a week. Could you pay for everything out of that? Thought not. As for 'prioritising' your budget, have you ever had to choose between having a roof over your heads or feeding your kids? Thought not. The vast majority of those who use food banks are in genuine and desperate need, fueled by unfair sanctions from the Job Centre, who seem to be able to stop benefits on a whim, the impositions of the bedroom tax which penalises people with a 'spare bedroom' even though there are no smaller properties for them to move into, and the changes to disabled benefits which means, again, that many people who can't possibly work (including the terminally ill) are judged 'fit' and have their money cut off. Note that this doctor has no actual proof whatsoever that anyone is actually abusing the system, he's just expressing his concern. You can't just turn up at a food bank and demand a handout, you have to be referred, and you can't keep going back week after week, most foodbanks will only allow you to visit three or four times a year. As for voucher, how demeaning. Have we lost all humanity in this country? Judging from the comments above, we've certainly lost it in parts of Wiltshire. loosewoman

4:35pm Mon 3 Feb 14

loosewoman says...

ChannelX wrote:
Very brave of the doctor to highlight this growing problem.
Oh, read the article. All he's doing is saying that he doesn't feel qualified to judge whether someone is in need or not. He is NOT saying that people who shouldn't be using food banks are exploiting the system - he's just saying that they MIGHT. That isn't the same as saying that they ARE. See the difference?

Remember, it's said that most of us are only two or three wage packets away from being forced to use food banks ourselves. It might be you in a few months time.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: Very brave of the doctor to highlight this growing problem.[/p][/quote]Oh, read the article. All he's doing is saying that he doesn't feel qualified to judge whether someone is in need or not. He is NOT saying that people who shouldn't be using food banks are exploiting the system - he's just saying that they MIGHT. That isn't the same as saying that they ARE. See the difference? Remember, it's said that most of us are only two or three wage packets away from being forced to use food banks ourselves. It might be you in a few months time. loosewoman

5:25pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

@loosewoman: are you claiming that nobody is cheating the system?

And there's not much point pulling the old, 'Let people cheat the benefits system because it might be you next month' nonsense. It's the same as saying we may as well not pay anyone benefits because they might all get a job next month.

What's 'demeaning' about paying part of benefits as food vouchers? An element of the money IS intended to feed those who receive it, so what's the problem?

Or are you suggesting that handing people free food and free money is also 'demeaning'?
@loosewoman: are you claiming that nobody is cheating the system? And there's not much point pulling the old, 'Let people cheat the benefits system because it might be you next month' nonsense. It's the same as saying we may as well not pay anyone benefits because they might all get a job next month. What's 'demeaning' about paying part of benefits as food vouchers? An element of the money IS intended to feed those who receive it, so what's the problem? Or are you suggesting that handing people free food and free money is also 'demeaning'? ChannelX

5:59pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Hmmmf says...

loosewoman wrote:
Do you know how much a job-seeker gets? £70 a week. Could you pay for everything out of that?

Plus housing benefit, council tax benefit, and any child benefit payments claimable. £70 a week for food and bills is enough to 'live on' when you have no housing costs to worry about, and yes, I did manage on JSA, when I had to (but then I don't smoke, don't have a Sky or Cable TV subscription, pets, or a drug habit to feed). Funny how those who rant about "£70 a week" always seem to forget that JSA is a 'passport benefit' which entitles a claimant to everything else.
[quote][p][bold]loosewoman[/bold] wrote: Do you know how much a job-seeker gets? £70 a week. Could you pay for everything out of that? [/quote] Plus housing benefit, council tax benefit, and any child benefit payments claimable. £70 a week for food and bills is enough to 'live on' when you have no housing costs to worry about, and yes, I did manage on JSA, when I had to (but then I don't smoke, don't have a Sky or Cable TV subscription, pets, or a drug habit to feed). Funny how those who rant about "£70 a week" always seem to forget that JSA is a 'passport benefit' which entitles a claimant to everything else. Hmmmf

6:09pm Mon 3 Feb 14

back_to_reality says...

The people who run the foodbanks have a vested interest in them continuing to flourish, as do all 'career' charity managers. Hence their desperation to seek out new people to 'help'.

As anyone who has looked into these operations in more depth will know, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone taking these extra handouts who genuinely deserves them. In fact as ChannelX has suggested, they actually do more harm than good.

Unfortunately Foodbanks are preying on the good nature of ordinary people by persuading them to donate, when in fact you are being taken for a mug.
The people who run the foodbanks have a vested interest in them continuing to flourish, as do all 'career' charity managers. Hence their desperation to seek out new people to 'help'. As anyone who has looked into these operations in more depth will know, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone taking these extra handouts who genuinely deserves them. In fact as ChannelX has suggested, they actually do more harm than good. Unfortunately Foodbanks are preying on the good nature of ordinary people by persuading them to donate, when in fact you are being taken for a mug. back_to_reality

6:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

back_to_reality says...

loosewoman wrote:
What a load of ignorant rubbish has been spouted on here. Do you know how much a job-seeker gets? £70 a week. Could you pay for everything out of that? Thought not. As for 'prioritising' your budget, have you ever had to choose between having a roof over your heads or feeding your kids? Thought not. The vast majority of those who use food banks are in genuine and desperate need, fueled by unfair sanctions from the Job Centre, who seem to be able to stop benefits on a whim, the impositions of the bedroom tax which penalises people with a 'spare bedroom' even though there are no smaller properties for them to move into, and the changes to disabled benefits which means, again, that many people who can't possibly work (including the terminally ill) are judged 'fit' and have their money cut off.
Note that this doctor has no actual proof whatsoever that anyone is actually abusing the system, he's just expressing his concern.
You can't just turn up at a food bank and demand a handout, you have to be referred, and you can't keep going back week after week, most foodbanks will only allow you to visit three or four times a year.

As for voucher, how demeaning. Have we lost all humanity in this country? Judging from the comments above, we've certainly lost it in parts of Wiltshire.
Benefits Street. LOL.
[quote][p][bold]loosewoman[/bold] wrote: What a load of ignorant rubbish has been spouted on here. Do you know how much a job-seeker gets? £70 a week. Could you pay for everything out of that? Thought not. As for 'prioritising' your budget, have you ever had to choose between having a roof over your heads or feeding your kids? Thought not. The vast majority of those who use food banks are in genuine and desperate need, fueled by unfair sanctions from the Job Centre, who seem to be able to stop benefits on a whim, the impositions of the bedroom tax which penalises people with a 'spare bedroom' even though there are no smaller properties for them to move into, and the changes to disabled benefits which means, again, that many people who can't possibly work (including the terminally ill) are judged 'fit' and have their money cut off. Note that this doctor has no actual proof whatsoever that anyone is actually abusing the system, he's just expressing his concern. You can't just turn up at a food bank and demand a handout, you have to be referred, and you can't keep going back week after week, most foodbanks will only allow you to visit three or four times a year. As for voucher, how demeaning. Have we lost all humanity in this country? Judging from the comments above, we've certainly lost it in parts of Wiltshire.[/p][/quote]Benefits Street. LOL. back_to_reality

1:45am Tue 4 Feb 14

deepforest says...

All this talk and so little humanity. We live in a wealthy western country yet large numbers of our citizens are having to use food banks. What a disgrace
And what is everyone worried about? Giving something to someone who may not meet their criteria for worthy.... Swindon I despair of you
All this talk and so little humanity. We live in a wealthy western country yet large numbers of our citizens are having to use food banks. What a disgrace And what is everyone worried about? Giving something to someone who may not meet their criteria for worthy.... Swindon I despair of you deepforest

8:14am Tue 4 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

deepforest wrote:
All this talk and so little humanity. We live in a wealthy western country yet large numbers of our citizens are having to use food banks. What a disgrace
And what is everyone worried about? Giving something to someone who may not meet their criteria for worthy.... Swindon I despair of you
About 120 people in Swindon 'use' Foodbanks. I would suggest it'd be fairly easy for the agencies to guess exactly who most of them are - the same hardcore spongers who grab everything else they can for free.

As has been pointed out by several people above, the UK benefits system pays for EVERYTHING a person needs to house themselves and then gives them £71 a week on top of that to spend on whatever they want. Many on benefits have far more disposable income than those who work hard but on low salaries.

There is nothing 'compassionate' about giving people lots of free money that THEY then decide to waste on things other than food. There is no 'humanity' in handing out free food to people who can then use the money they've saved to buy more drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.

You need to wake up.
[quote][p][bold]deepforest[/bold] wrote: All this talk and so little humanity. We live in a wealthy western country yet large numbers of our citizens are having to use food banks. What a disgrace And what is everyone worried about? Giving something to someone who may not meet their criteria for worthy.... Swindon I despair of you[/p][/quote]About 120 people in Swindon 'use' Foodbanks. I would suggest it'd be fairly easy for the agencies to guess exactly who most of them are - the same hardcore spongers who grab everything else they can for free. As has been pointed out by several people above, the UK benefits system pays for EVERYTHING a person needs to house themselves and then gives them £71 a week on top of that to spend on whatever they want. Many on benefits have far more disposable income than those who work hard but on low salaries. There is nothing 'compassionate' about giving people lots of free money that THEY then decide to waste on things other than food. There is no 'humanity' in handing out free food to people who can then use the money they've saved to buy more drugs, alcohol and cigarettes. You need to wake up. ChannelX

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