Speed safety zones created for schools

This Is Wiltshire: Haydonleigh school have been set aside funds to put a safety zone around the school. Pictured Hattie, Head teacher Frances Billing, Jacob, Eve and Debbie Yockney Haydonleigh school have been set aside funds to put a safety zone around the school. Pictured Hattie, Head teacher Frances Billing, Jacob, Eve and Debbie Yockney

SCHOOLS are to have safety zones established around them to deter speeding traffic, paid for from a special fund created in this year’s Swindon Council budget.

Haydonleigh, Peatmoor and Chiseldon primary schools are to receive a share of £30,000 from a pot of money created from left over funds from last year.

School safety zones involve putting speed restrictions around the school as well as markings on the road and are designed to ensure children are safer around the schools.

The headteacher of Haydonleigh welcomed the news, despite being unaware of the funding. Frances Billange said: “Anything which helps to make children safer is obviously a good thing. My school is rapidly expanding and by 2018/19 we could have more than 600 pupils.

“We are working very hard on the walk to school programme so there will be more of our children on the streets, so making the route to school a less dangerous place is something that we certainly welcome.”

However, a political row is brewing over the choice of schools, with allegations they have been chosen for political gain. The Labour Group say all three schools are in Conservative wards and with elections coming up they are concerned funds are being used incorrectly, something the Tories deny.

Labour Group Leader Coun Jim Grant (Lab, Rodbourne Cheney) said: “There is a long list of schools which want a safety zone and we would question why it is these have been selected.

“Some other schools have been waiting for a long time but it is the ones in these wards which are potentially under threat at the next election which have been chosen.

“It seems they are helping their own at the expense of others around the town and one wonders why this is?”

“We do not begrudge the schools who have the money, we just want to know why they have been selected.”

A list of more than 40 schools was developed several years ago listing the needs of each school, taking into account risk factors and number of accidents.

Council Leader David Renard (Con, Haydon Wick) said: “Simply put the three we have chosen are top of the list so that is why they have been selected.

“About two or three years ago we put a list together and now they have reached the top. I have to admit I am a governor at Haydonleigh so I have an interest but that has played no part.

“We would like to be able to give money to help all the schools to improve child safety but we do not have the funds.”

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8:39am Tue 4 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards.

I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case.

Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.
Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards. I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case. Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph. ChannelX
  • Score: 4

8:52am Tue 4 Feb 14

nobody says...

The problem is there are just too many selfish drivers who do not care.
The problem is there are just too many selfish drivers who do not care. nobody
  • Score: 4

9:40am Tue 4 Feb 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

ChannelX wrote:
Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards.

I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case.

Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.
Fair, reasonable and sensible? What's a 20 mph zone around a school got to do with a motorway?
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards. I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case. Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.[/p][/quote]Fair, reasonable and sensible? What's a 20 mph zone around a school got to do with a motorway? The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 1

9:48am Tue 4 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards.

I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case.

Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.
Fair, reasonable and sensible? What's a 20 mph zone around a school got to do with a motorway?
Because speed limits should be set according to the nature of the road.

30mph is too fast around a school when children are using it and 70mph is too slow for an empty motorway on a clear, warm day.

If we take the sensible step to reduce speed around schools there is nothing to stop us taking the equally sensible step of increasing the speed limit on motorways.

Speed limit policy shouldn't ALWAYS just be used against the motorist.
[quote][p][bold]The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards. I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case. Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.[/p][/quote]Fair, reasonable and sensible? What's a 20 mph zone around a school got to do with a motorway?[/p][/quote]Because speed limits should be set according to the nature of the road. 30mph is too fast around a school when children are using it and 70mph is too slow for an empty motorway on a clear, warm day. If we take the sensible step to reduce speed around schools there is nothing to stop us taking the equally sensible step of increasing the speed limit on motorways. Speed limit policy shouldn't ALWAYS just be used against the motorist. ChannelX
  • Score: 2

10:08am Tue 4 Feb 14

have-a-say says...

I have a child who attends Haydon Wick Primary School. The Head Teacher Mr Cowley and parents have been campaigning for many years to have a School Safety Zone set up, However the powers that be from the council always seem to reject it. The school eventually had to fund the yellow zig-zag lines itself, a cost of several thousand pounds. Its complete utter tosh that Council Leader David Renard had nothing do do with it, oh look another pig has just flown by. As far as can recall so far there have been no accidents around Haydonleigh school (thankfully) yet at Haydon Wick school there has been accident involving a child and car in the last 2 years, yet the council don't think there is a problem.........
I have a child who attends Haydon Wick Primary School. The Head Teacher Mr Cowley and parents have been campaigning for many years to have a School Safety Zone set up, However the powers that be from the council always seem to reject it. The school eventually had to fund the yellow zig-zag lines itself, a cost of several thousand pounds. Its complete utter tosh that Council Leader David Renard had nothing do do with it, oh look another pig has just flown by. As far as can recall so far there have been no accidents around Haydonleigh school (thankfully) yet at Haydon Wick school there has been accident involving a child and car in the last 2 years, yet the council don't think there is a problem......... have-a-say
  • Score: 1

1:20pm Tue 4 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

ChannelX wrote:
The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards.

I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case.

Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.
Fair, reasonable and sensible? What's a 20 mph zone around a school got to do with a motorway?
Because speed limits should be set according to the nature of the road.

30mph is too fast around a school when children are using it and 70mph is too slow for an empty motorway on a clear, warm day.

If we take the sensible step to reduce speed around schools there is nothing to stop us taking the equally sensible step of increasing the speed limit on motorways.

Speed limit policy shouldn't ALWAYS just be used against the motorist.
How many "warm clear days" do we get. Mostly the weather is cr4p and the motorway is busy and in reality no one seems to care what the limit is anyway!!!
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards. I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case. Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.[/p][/quote]Fair, reasonable and sensible? What's a 20 mph zone around a school got to do with a motorway?[/p][/quote]Because speed limits should be set according to the nature of the road. 30mph is too fast around a school when children are using it and 70mph is too slow for an empty motorway on a clear, warm day. If we take the sensible step to reduce speed around schools there is nothing to stop us taking the equally sensible step of increasing the speed limit on motorways. Speed limit policy shouldn't ALWAYS just be used against the motorist.[/p][/quote]How many "warm clear days" do we get. Mostly the weather is cr4p and the motorway is busy and in reality no one seems to care what the limit is anyway!!! house on the hill
  • Score: 1

1:54pm Tue 4 Feb 14

nobody says...

You need police on the streets enforcing the law, it is obvious they are not doing it by the large number of cars driving around with a front or/and a rear light not working or with an illegal plate.
You need police on the streets enforcing the law, it is obvious they are not doing it by the large number of cars driving around with a front or/and a rear light not working or with an illegal plate. nobody
  • Score: 0

3:17pm Tue 4 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

house on the hill wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards.

I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case.

Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.
Fair, reasonable and sensible? What's a 20 mph zone around a school got to do with a motorway?
Because speed limits should be set according to the nature of the road.

30mph is too fast around a school when children are using it and 70mph is too slow for an empty motorway on a clear, warm day.

If we take the sensible step to reduce speed around schools there is nothing to stop us taking the equally sensible step of increasing the speed limit on motorways.

Speed limit policy shouldn't ALWAYS just be used against the motorist.
How many "warm clear days" do we get. Mostly the weather is cr4p and the motorway is busy and in reality no one seems to care what the limit is anyway!!!
We get several months' worth of 'warm clear days'. As you say yourself, most of the time the reality is that the motorways are so busy that speed regulates itself in any case.

So what would be the harm in raising the speed limit to 80mph? As you've just observed, hardly anyone on the motorway travels at less than 70mph unless forced to by weather conditions, accidents or weight of traffic.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: Silly comments from Labour. The majority of wards in the town are Conservative wards, so it's rather obviously much more likely that the money will be spent in Conservative wards. I really doubt that installing these new speed restriction zones will be much of a vote winner in any case. Still, it is definitely a good thing. ALL schools should eventually have a 20mph speed safety zone installed. In return, it would be only fair, reasonable and sensible for the government to increase the motorway limit to 80mph.[/p][/quote]Fair, reasonable and sensible? What's a 20 mph zone around a school got to do with a motorway?[/p][/quote]Because speed limits should be set according to the nature of the road. 30mph is too fast around a school when children are using it and 70mph is too slow for an empty motorway on a clear, warm day. If we take the sensible step to reduce speed around schools there is nothing to stop us taking the equally sensible step of increasing the speed limit on motorways. Speed limit policy shouldn't ALWAYS just be used against the motorist.[/p][/quote]How many "warm clear days" do we get. Mostly the weather is cr4p and the motorway is busy and in reality no one seems to care what the limit is anyway!!![/p][/quote]We get several months' worth of 'warm clear days'. As you say yourself, most of the time the reality is that the motorways are so busy that speed regulates itself in any case. So what would be the harm in raising the speed limit to 80mph? As you've just observed, hardly anyone on the motorway travels at less than 70mph unless forced to by weather conditions, accidents or weight of traffic. ChannelX
  • Score: 2

9:07pm Tue 4 Feb 14

faatmaan says...

as rates are collected from all areas of the borough, to have expenditure like this targeted at that particular parties supported areas would highlight unbalanced expenditure in this instance, but as we all know most school children are in the same dangers when in comes to passing traffic and irresponsible lazy parents whose only exercise would be pushing their kids out of their cars at the school gates. There is almost a case for a total exclusion zone around schools at certain times of the day with any vehicle infringing that zone ( apart rom a few exceptions like the emergency services) would automatically be given a ticket escalating upwards in severity on repitition
as rates are collected from all areas of the borough, to have expenditure like this targeted at that particular parties supported areas would highlight unbalanced expenditure in this instance, but as we all know most school children are in the same dangers when in comes to passing traffic and irresponsible lazy parents whose only exercise would be pushing their kids out of their cars at the school gates. There is almost a case for a total exclusion zone around schools at certain times of the day with any vehicle infringing that zone ( apart rom a few exceptions like the emergency services) would automatically be given a ticket escalating upwards in severity on repitition faatmaan
  • Score: 1

12:17pm Wed 5 Feb 14

trustnopolitician says...

What we need is a better calibre of councillors - irrespective of political persuasion all Swindon councillors seem to put their personal or their parties interests first
What we need is a better calibre of councillors - irrespective of political persuasion all Swindon councillors seem to put their personal or their parties interests first trustnopolitician
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