We don’t want traffic plan back, say residents

This Is Wiltshire: Jeyam Anthony, owner of Queensfield store, left, supported the lifting of the Queensfield traffic ban along with other residents, including Pat Jones and Reg Jones Jeyam Anthony, owner of Queensfield store, left, supported the lifting of the Queensfield traffic ban along with other residents, including Pat Jones and Reg Jones

RESIDENTS have voted overwhelmingly against the reinstatement of a divisive traffic regulation order which stopped motorists using Queensfield and its adjoining streets as a rat run at rush hour.

A 12-month traffic regulation order began in February 2012 to prevent motorists from turning into Queensfield from Cricklade Road from 7.30am to 9.30am on weekdays and turning out of Queensfield on to Cricklade Road from 4.30pm to 6.30pm on weekdays.

Following a consultation into whether the order should return permanently, 161 residents voted against with 86 voting for.

Of those people living in Queensfield itself, 36 people voted against the order with 23 for.

The initial experiment came after what some residents said was a 15-year wait for action to stop Queensfield, Duchess Way and Hathaway Road being used as rat runs for commuters.

But some residents said there were other solutions, such as linking Crompton Road with Hyde Road, and handed in a 400-signature petition calling for the ban to be suspended.

The trial for the regulation order divided people and at the end of six months of debating whether it should be reinstated, a petition came before full council last autumn, asking for it not to return to the area.

Councillors decided to hand the decision back to Stratton’s ward councillors, who then put the decision out to a public consultation, which ran until January of this year.

Coun Joe Tray (Lab, Penhill & Upper Stratton) said: “Demo-cracy has spoken, so we have agreed there will be no more traffic regulation orders.

“Highways felt it was better to see traffic being reduced through there, but it wasn’t being policed all that often, so whether it was successful I don’t know. It certainly had an impact though.

“I feel sorry for the people that live on the main road through. I know that will mean more traffic for them, but I am happy we have gone through the process of consultation.”

With a line drawn under the Queensfield traffic issue, Coun Tray is keen to address wider issues with roads in the north of Swindon, including the congestion he said is caused by access to the A419.

He said: “The traffic infrastructure of North Swindon has been ignored for years by the council.

“Their ignoring of the build up on roads has pushed people to use the roads through estates as rat runs.

“I will now push to see the council commit to improving things like the roundabout at Moonrakers and the access the north of the town has to the A419.

“They have spent millions on knocking down a car park in the town centre only to put another car park in its place.

“This is money which could be spent improving the infrastructure across the north of the town.”

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9:45am Wed 12 Feb 14

stratton man says...

we are fortunate in penhill and upper Stratton in having ward councillors who live in the ward and listen to us.Its a shame that so many wards in Swindon are represented by councillors who only turn up at election time pleading for a vote and are not seen until the next election.
we are fortunate in penhill and upper Stratton in having ward councillors who live in the ward and listen to us.Its a shame that so many wards in Swindon are represented by councillors who only turn up at election time pleading for a vote and are not seen until the next election. stratton man

10:36am Wed 12 Feb 14

Mochyndeaer says...

There is no such thing as a rat run. It's a road, get use to it!
There is no such thing as a rat run. It's a road, get use to it! Mochyndeaer

10:49am Wed 12 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

What happens when all the estates roads in Swindon are closed to traffic?
What happens when all the estates roads in Swindon are closed to traffic? A.Baron-Cohen

11:07am Wed 12 Feb 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

Common sense prevails.

And it's not just access to the A419 that's the issue, it's the A419 itself which is already struggling at peak times. Can't imagine what it's going to be like once they've directed thousands more cars from the yet to be built new housing estates onto it...
Common sense prevails. And it's not just access to the A419 that's the issue, it's the A419 itself which is already struggling at peak times. Can't imagine what it's going to be like once they've directed thousands more cars from the yet to be built new housing estates onto it... The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man

12:14pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

Now open Upham and Ferndale roads up to cars and get the traffic moving.
Now open Upham and Ferndale roads up to cars and get the traffic moving. Davey Gravey

12:55pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Mochyndeaer says...

It's time to remove all bus lanes, bus gates & any restrictions on the free flow of traffic.
It's time to remove all bus lanes, bus gates & any restrictions on the free flow of traffic. Mochyndeaer

1:11pm Wed 12 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Mochyndeaer wrote:
It's time to remove all bus lanes, bus gates & any restrictions on the free flow of traffic.
Absolutely. Spot on. We're forced to pay for these roads - so let us use them.
[quote][p][bold]Mochyndeaer[/bold] wrote: It's time to remove all bus lanes, bus gates & any restrictions on the free flow of traffic.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Spot on. We're forced to pay for these roads - so let us use them. ChannelX

1:34pm Wed 12 Feb 14

swindondad says...

Mochyndeaer wrote:
It's time to remove all bus lanes, bus gates & any restrictions on the free flow of traffic.
IHMO the bus lanes on Cricklade road should have been removed the day the Copse park & ride was closed.
[quote][p][bold]Mochyndeaer[/bold] wrote: It's time to remove all bus lanes, bus gates & any restrictions on the free flow of traffic.[/p][/quote]IHMO the bus lanes on Cricklade road should have been removed the day the Copse park & ride was closed. swindondad

2:06pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

Mochyndeaer wrote:
It's time to remove all bus lanes, bus gates & any restrictions on the free flow of traffic.
Bus lanes should remain in most places. Take them away and the traffic will still end up in hand where they end anyway. People should be encouraged to use public transport as there are too many cars on the road. That said there are roads that shouldn't be bus only and some of the bus lanes should go.
[quote][p][bold]Mochyndeaer[/bold] wrote: It's time to remove all bus lanes, bus gates & any restrictions on the free flow of traffic.[/p][/quote]Bus lanes should remain in most places. Take them away and the traffic will still end up in hand where they end anyway. People should be encouraged to use public transport as there are too many cars on the road. That said there are roads that shouldn't be bus only and some of the bus lanes should go. Davey Gravey

2:13pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

Jams not hand
Jams not hand Davey Gravey

4:52pm Wed 12 Feb 14

BCDR99 says...

Just to echo a previous comment - there is no such thing as a "rat run." They are roads that lead from A to B.

However, what we don't need is a mass scrapping of bus lanes and other traffic schemes just because some people are still confused in to thinking they pay "road tax" and that that gives them the entitlement to drive where and how they want to.

What we do need, however, is a coherent and joined-up transport plan for the town. What do we want the town to look like? How do we want to get around? Where are people going to and from all the time? How far are people travelling? What is the best way to do that?
All of these questions and many more need answering and all of those considerations need taking in to account when ANYTHING is planned in the town. Not only new residential developments, but the location of new shops, retail parks, offices, leisure facilities, hospitals, libraries etc, etc.

There are many roads in town that cause bottlenecks where they needn't be. Equally, there are many people on the roads, in cars by themselves when they needn't be also.
Just to echo a previous comment - there is no such thing as a "rat run." They are roads that lead from A to B. However, what we don't need is a mass scrapping of bus lanes and other traffic schemes just because some people are still confused in to thinking they pay "road tax" and that that gives them the entitlement to drive where and how they want to. What we do need, however, is a coherent and joined-up transport plan for the town. What do we want the town to look like? How do we want to get around? Where are people going to and from all the time? How far are people travelling? What is the best way to do that? All of these questions and many more need answering and all of those considerations need taking in to account when ANYTHING is planned in the town. Not only new residential developments, but the location of new shops, retail parks, offices, leisure facilities, hospitals, libraries etc, etc. There are many roads in town that cause bottlenecks where they needn't be. Equally, there are many people on the roads, in cars by themselves when they needn't be also. BCDR99

9:28am Thu 13 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

The residents want peace and quiet, fair play to play to them and great to see that they are being consulted.
Like it or not they vox populi has been heard, however it is a little unfair that that collective taxation is used to maintain and build private roads, maybe some local tolls could be implemented?
The residents want peace and quiet, fair play to play to them and great to see that they are being consulted. Like it or not they vox populi has been heard, however it is a little unfair that that collective taxation is used to maintain and build private roads, maybe some local tolls could be implemented? A.Baron-Cohen

12:10pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

Thumb fiddling
Thumb fiddling Davey Gravey

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