Council surplus £459,000 will fund one-off projects

This Is Wiltshire: Council leader David Renard Council leader David Renard

SWINDON Council is predicting that it will have saved more than £450,000 of taxpayer’s money by the end of the financial year to plough back into one-off schemes.

In a cabinet report on February 5, the council revealed that it hasunderspent £459,000 in this year’s budget, which will be added to some of a £1.2m pot of contingency money to put towards one-off investments around the town.

David Renard, leader of the council, said: “The figures are a projection and are a result of careful budget management by the council.

“The budgets are set for the year ahead so that the council can deliver hundreds of services and it has to make some estimates.

“Everyone agreed to the plans in the Scrutiny Committee. It was decided that the underspend would be added to contingency money and would be invested in one-off projects, such as School Safety Zones.

“Most schools around the borough have asked for a one-off investment for the schemes, so the money we have been able to save will go towards that.

“If we didn’t have the underspend to spend on that then the schools would have to go without.”

But some councillors have raised concerns that the council has mismanaged the budget and over-charged residents, and then made cuts to important projects around the town.

Derique Montaut (Lab, Liden, Eldene and Park South) said: “Council mismanagement of the budget has meant the council is sitting on a £1.6m pot of money. The budget is set at the start of the year and they charge the council tax accordingly. That’s around two per cent of what they got that they haven’t spent.

“But where a couple of months ago Swindon was a pot hole city, especially in my area, it is now the Olympic champion of pot holes, with residents and councillors asking the council to do something about it but nothing has been done.

“They then cut services like Sure Start, and they cut funding for the regeneration of Liden and Eldene centres.”

But the council has reassured residents that any existing long-term project plans will continue to run, and that the saved money will strictly go towards one-off investments.

Coun Renard said: “There is a long term plan to regenerate village centres around Swindon, which will continue. The money is being invested in one-off projects we wouldn’t have been able to support had we not made the savings.

“Considering that the Eldene centre is to be demolished it seemed a waste of taxpayers money to invest in regenerating it.”

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8:10am Tue 18 Feb 14

anotherimigrant says...

Renard is an outright and blatant liar.

He didn't save anything, his mignons simply didn't do all the things they were supposed to, and it's the end of the financial year.

They have to spend it or the ,Gov cuts their rates for the next financial year.

Who are these thieves and liars trying to kid all the time.
Renard is an outright and blatant liar. He didn't save anything, his mignons simply didn't do all the things they were supposed to, and it's the end of the financial year. They have to spend it or the ,Gov cuts their rates for the next financial year. Who are these thieves and liars trying to kid all the time. anotherimigrant

8:43am Tue 18 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Moaner Montaut moans when the council overspend and Moaner Montaut moans when the council underspends... there's a bit of a pattern there I'd suggest.
Moaner Montaut moans when the council overspend and Moaner Montaut moans when the council underspends... there's a bit of a pattern there I'd suggest. ChannelX

9:14am Tue 18 Feb 14

stratton man says...

Why not give the cash to Ricky Hunt to start up a WiFi network.
Why not give the cash to Ricky Hunt to start up a WiFi network. stratton man

9:43am Tue 18 Feb 14

Richard Symonds says...

stratton man wrote:
Why not give the cash to Ricky Hunt to start up a WiFi network.
If we had not loaned the Digital City Money we would be a further £400,000 better off, or is that closer to a million with all the associated hidden costs?

I am still mystified as to why David Renard is so unwilling to find out what happened to all of it by getting a FULL Investigation by the Police as recommended by The Scrutiny Committee. Or is the decision not to formally ask them to find the money, as only they can, a matter of political expediency?

Anyway he now has the money to fund the Detailed Panning of the Thamesdown Drive Extension, but he won't will he?
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: Why not give the cash to Ricky Hunt to start up a WiFi network.[/p][/quote]If we had not loaned the Digital City Money we would be a further £400,000 better off, or is that closer to a million with all the associated hidden costs? I am still mystified as to why David Renard is so unwilling to find out what happened to all of it by getting a FULL Investigation by the Police as recommended by The Scrutiny Committee. Or is the decision not to formally ask them to find the money, as only they can, a matter of political expediency? Anyway he now has the money to fund the Detailed Panning of the Thamesdown Drive Extension, but he won't will he? Richard Symonds

9:47am Tue 18 Feb 14

Richard Symonds says...

I know I have only been away for a few days but has Derique Montaut taken back the leadership of the Labour Group?

I thought Jim Grant was Leader!!
I know I have only been away for a few days but has Derique Montaut taken back the leadership of the Labour Group? I thought Jim Grant was Leader!! Richard Symonds

9:56am Tue 18 Feb 14

1 2 Could B says...

Guess we can look forward to another wifi style farce then, whilst services are cut to shreds
Guess we can look forward to another wifi style farce then, whilst services are cut to shreds 1 2 Could B

10:21am Tue 18 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Wifi anyone.....
Wifi anyone..... A.Baron-Cohen

10:22am Tue 18 Feb 14

Davethered says...

Why not help those poor people out who have been hit with that dreadful bedroom tax . I'm sure it would help them.
Why not help those poor people out who have been hit with that dreadful bedroom tax . I'm sure it would help them. Davethered

10:41am Tue 18 Feb 14

oldbutawake says...

Perhaps they could use it to finish that badly made footpath in Liden. They did the bit round by the Tory voting Oakbourne Park but then stopped. The rest of it is unusable as the gravel and ash path is a soggy flooded mess.
Why don't they lay a normal asphalt path?
Perhaps they could use it to finish that badly made footpath in Liden. They did the bit round by the Tory voting Oakbourne Park but then stopped. The rest of it is unusable as the gravel and ash path is a soggy flooded mess. Why don't they lay a normal asphalt path? oldbutawake

10:43am Tue 18 Feb 14

beach1e says...

and add into the pot the money have conned out of council taxpayers who have paid for the year but not getting a full year of recycling collection.two months of council tax for no service...and they don't even have the courtesy to respond to questions about it, the ombudsman will be aware of it soon enough.
and add into the pot the money have conned out of council taxpayers who have paid for the year but not getting a full year of recycling collection.two months of council tax for no service...and they don't even have the courtesy to respond to questions about it, the ombudsman will be aware of it soon enough. beach1e

10:45am Tue 18 Feb 14

MR. MASS says...

use it to fix our poxy roads then! dont buy a giant **** potplant to look pretty in the town center! fix the bloody roads! they damage our cars with all these massive holes everywhere...
use it to fix our poxy roads then! dont buy a giant **** potplant to look pretty in the town center! fix the bloody roads! they damage our cars with all these massive holes everywhere... MR. MASS

10:55am Tue 18 Feb 14

ChannelX says...


If we had not loaned the Digital City Money we would be a further £400,000 better off, or is that closer to a million with all the associated hidden costs?


Moaner Montaut would have moaned TWICE as much if that was the case.

People really need to decide what they want:

a) money spent by the council
b) money not spent by the council

If it's (a) you have to accept that not all of it will be spent how you would rather it was spent and on the things that interest/benefit you personally.

If it's the latter, stop whinging about 'cuts' (that actually never seem to happen in any case).
[quote] If we had not loaned the Digital City Money we would be a further £400,000 better off, or is that closer to a million with all the associated hidden costs? [/quote] Moaner Montaut would have moaned TWICE as much if that was the case. People really need to decide what they want: a) money spent by the council b) money not spent by the council If it's (a) you have to accept that not all of it will be spent how you would rather it was spent and on the things that interest/benefit you personally. If it's the latter, stop whinging about 'cuts' (that actually never seem to happen in any case). ChannelX

11:32am Tue 18 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time. Davey Gravey

11:40am Tue 18 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.[/p][/quote]Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else. ChannelX

12:02pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.
He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too?
They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.[/p][/quote]Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.[/p][/quote]He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too? They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town. Davey Gravey

12:28pm Tue 18 Feb 14

stratton man says...

I have met Cllr Montaut he has served the people of Swindon with integrity for decades.What have you and your hapless sidekick Cllr Heenan doneChannelX/Ringer other than vote to keep your inflated and undeserved allowances.
I have met Cllr Montaut he has served the people of Swindon with integrity for decades.What have you and your hapless sidekick Cllr Heenan doneChannelX/Ringer other than vote to keep your inflated and undeserved allowances. stratton man

12:33pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Swindon999 says...

fix Swindon's roads SBC you are a disgrace
fix Swindon's roads SBC you are a disgrace Swindon999

1:24pm Tue 18 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.
He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too?
They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.
Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.[/p][/quote]Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.[/p][/quote]He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too? They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.[/p][/quote]Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning? ChannelX

1:54pm Tue 18 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

anotherimigrant wrote:
Renard is an outright and blatant liar.

He didn't save anything, his mignons simply didn't do all the things they were supposed to, and it's the end of the financial year.

They have to spend it or the ,Gov cuts their rates for the next financial year.

Who are these thieves and liars trying to kid all the time.
Clearly you have worked in the public sector as that is how it works. If you don't spend your budget, you get it cut and next years is based on what you spent rather than what you need. All areas of the council are checking their finances to make sure they spend it all before the end of March on stuff they dont even need, its a complete joke!
[quote][p][bold]anotherimigrant[/bold] wrote: Renard is an outright and blatant liar. He didn't save anything, his mignons simply didn't do all the things they were supposed to, and it's the end of the financial year. They have to spend it or the ,Gov cuts their rates for the next financial year. Who are these thieves and liars trying to kid all the time.[/p][/quote]Clearly you have worked in the public sector as that is how it works. If you don't spend your budget, you get it cut and next years is based on what you spent rather than what you need. All areas of the council are checking their finances to make sure they spend it all before the end of March on stuff they dont even need, its a complete joke! house on the hill

1:57pm Tue 18 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

Davethered wrote:
Why not help those poor people out who have been hit with that dreadful bedroom tax . I'm sure it would help them.
Its not a tax and why help people already being helped by the taxpayer to have more than they actually need? The housing waiting list is now over 15,000.
[quote][p][bold]Davethered[/bold] wrote: Why not help those poor people out who have been hit with that dreadful bedroom tax . I'm sure it would help them.[/p][/quote]Its not a tax and why help people already being helped by the taxpayer to have more than they actually need? The housing waiting list is now over 15,000. house on the hill

2:34pm Tue 18 Feb 14

twasadawf says...

Do as the banks do and give it to the few as a Brucey Bonus or maybe spend repairing the roads and pavements which have suffered under the resent weather ,which one will get it i wonder?
Do as the banks do and give it to the few as a Brucey Bonus or maybe spend repairing the roads and pavements which have suffered under the resent weather ,which one will get it i wonder? twasadawf

2:44pm Tue 18 Feb 14

nobody says...

Considering the state of the roads and there continuing deterioration, it has to go towards fixing them properly.
The council are legally responsible for maintaining local roads, it's one of the reasons for paying council tax.
Considering the state of the roads and there continuing deterioration, it has to go towards fixing them properly. The council are legally responsible for maintaining local roads, it's one of the reasons for paying council tax. nobody

4:01pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.
He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too?
They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.
Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?
Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.[/p][/quote]Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.[/p][/quote]He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too? They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.[/p][/quote]Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?[/p][/quote]Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them. Davey Gravey

4:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.
He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too?
They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.
Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?
Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.
Hilarious.

You'd, 'win easily' if you had the time and financial backing.

So, in other words, you'll never win anything.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.[/p][/quote]Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.[/p][/quote]He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too? They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.[/p][/quote]Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?[/p][/quote]Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.[/p][/quote]Hilarious. You'd, 'win easily' if you had the time and financial backing. So, in other words, you'll never win anything. ChannelX

4:23pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.
He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too?
They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.
Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?
Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.
Hilarious.

You'd, 'win easily' if you had the time and financial backing.

So, in other words, you'll never win anything.
Correct, i won't win as I'm not in the race for the reasons stated. That means we are lumbered with the useless lot we currently have which is nothing to celebrate is it?
I'm sure there are plenty of better people who cannot or won't stand for the same reasons.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.[/p][/quote]Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.[/p][/quote]He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too? They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.[/p][/quote]Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?[/p][/quote]Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.[/p][/quote]Hilarious. You'd, 'win easily' if you had the time and financial backing. So, in other words, you'll never win anything.[/p][/quote]Correct, i won't win as I'm not in the race for the reasons stated. That means we are lumbered with the useless lot we currently have which is nothing to celebrate is it? I'm sure there are plenty of better people who cannot or won't stand for the same reasons. Davey Gravey

4:41pm Tue 18 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.
He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too?
They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.
Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?
Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.
Hilarious.

You'd, 'win easily' if you had the time and financial backing.

So, in other words, you'll never win anything.
Correct, i won't win as I'm not in the race for the reasons stated. That means we are lumbered with the useless lot we currently have which is nothing to celebrate is it?
I'm sure there are plenty of better people who cannot or won't stand for the same reasons.
It's just amusing how you state that you'd 'win easily'.

I'd easily win the gold medal for the 100m at the next Olympics, but I don't really have the time.

In many wards, there are independent candidates standing - it's just that nobody ever votes for them in sufficient numbers (and likely never will). The problem with independents is that if there are only a few of them they can't achieve anything and once there are a majority of them they start forming alliances and you're back to the same situation as having party councillors banding together to ensure they get their own way.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.[/p][/quote]Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.[/p][/quote]He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too? They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.[/p][/quote]Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?[/p][/quote]Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.[/p][/quote]Hilarious. You'd, 'win easily' if you had the time and financial backing. So, in other words, you'll never win anything.[/p][/quote]Correct, i won't win as I'm not in the race for the reasons stated. That means we are lumbered with the useless lot we currently have which is nothing to celebrate is it? I'm sure there are plenty of better people who cannot or won't stand for the same reasons.[/p][/quote]It's just amusing how you state that you'd 'win easily'. I'd easily win the gold medal for the 100m at the next Olympics, but I don't really have the time. In many wards, there are independent candidates standing - it's just that nobody ever votes for them in sufficient numbers (and likely never will). The problem with independents is that if there are only a few of them they can't achieve anything and once there are a majority of them they start forming alliances and you're back to the same situation as having party councillors banding together to ensure they get their own way. ChannelX

4:47pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Are there any decent councilors left?
They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.
Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.
He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too?
They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.
Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?
Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.
Hilarious.

You'd, 'win easily' if you had the time and financial backing.

So, in other words, you'll never win anything.
Correct, i won't win as I'm not in the race for the reasons stated. That means we are lumbered with the useless lot we currently have which is nothing to celebrate is it?
I'm sure there are plenty of better people who cannot or won't stand for the same reasons.
It's just amusing how you state that you'd 'win easily'.

I'd easily win the gold medal for the 100m at the next Olympics, but I don't really have the time.

In many wards, there are independent candidates standing - it's just that nobody ever votes for them in sufficient numbers (and likely never will). The problem with independents is that if there are only a few of them they can't achieve anything and once there are a majority of them they start forming alliances and you're back to the same situation as having party councillors banding together to ensure they get their own way.
It was made tounge in cheek. Of course I wouldn't win easily. I would fancy my chances though with time and money to go close at least.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are there any decent councilors left? They all seem utterly incompetent and just bash the opposition all the time.[/p][/quote]Not all of them do that, but you're right, Moaner Montaut does little else.[/p][/quote]He aint the only one is he. Are you not a councilor too? They all seem to do it. Need some independent candidates in the town.[/p][/quote]Why don't you stand? If they're all so bad, surely you're in with a good chance of winning?[/p][/quote]Not enough time I'm afraid.I would win easily though of I did stand and had some financial backing.. I couldn't represent any party though and would have no funding for a campaign. This is why we get stuck with the same rubbish councilors as independent candidates which would be far better don't have a team behind them.[/p][/quote]Hilarious. You'd, 'win easily' if you had the time and financial backing. So, in other words, you'll never win anything.[/p][/quote]Correct, i won't win as I'm not in the race for the reasons stated. That means we are lumbered with the useless lot we currently have which is nothing to celebrate is it? I'm sure there are plenty of better people who cannot or won't stand for the same reasons.[/p][/quote]It's just amusing how you state that you'd 'win easily'. I'd easily win the gold medal for the 100m at the next Olympics, but I don't really have the time. In many wards, there are independent candidates standing - it's just that nobody ever votes for them in sufficient numbers (and likely never will). The problem with independents is that if there are only a few of them they can't achieve anything and once there are a majority of them they start forming alliances and you're back to the same situation as having party councillors banding together to ensure they get their own way.[/p][/quote]It was made tounge in cheek. Of course I wouldn't win easily. I would fancy my chances though with time and money to go close at least. Davey Gravey

5:16pm Tue 18 Feb 14

stratton man says...

Richard Symonds is standing as an independent in Shaw.If I lived in that ward he would get my vote over the odious Mayor Martins wife.
Richard Symonds is standing as an independent in Shaw.If I lived in that ward he would get my vote over the odious Mayor Martins wife. stratton man

6:53pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Wildwestener says...

house on the hill wrote:
anotherimigrant wrote:
Renard is an outright and blatant liar.

He didn't save anything, his mignons simply didn't do all the things they were supposed to, and it's the end of the financial year.

They have to spend it or the ,Gov cuts their rates for the next financial year.

Who are these thieves and liars trying to kid all the time.
Clearly you have worked in the public sector as that is how it works. If you don't spend your budget, you get it cut and next years is based on what you spent rather than what you need. All areas of the council are checking their finances to make sure they spend it all before the end of March on stuff they dont even need, its a complete joke!
I used to work in the public sector and it was always more of a cardinal sin to underspend than overspend. This was because you couldn't carry it forward from one year to the next like a business would.
The Govt always banged on about working like the private sector but did not allow us to do this simple thing .One of the reasons I left.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]anotherimigrant[/bold] wrote: Renard is an outright and blatant liar. He didn't save anything, his mignons simply didn't do all the things they were supposed to, and it's the end of the financial year. They have to spend it or the ,Gov cuts their rates for the next financial year. Who are these thieves and liars trying to kid all the time.[/p][/quote]Clearly you have worked in the public sector as that is how it works. If you don't spend your budget, you get it cut and next years is based on what you spent rather than what you need. All areas of the council are checking their finances to make sure they spend it all before the end of March on stuff they dont even need, its a complete joke![/p][/quote]I used to work in the public sector and it was always more of a cardinal sin to underspend than overspend. This was because you couldn't carry it forward from one year to the next like a business would. The Govt always banged on about working like the private sector but did not allow us to do this simple thing .One of the reasons I left. Wildwestener

6:37pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Richard Symonds says...

stratton man wrote:
Richard Symonds is standing as an independent in Shaw.If I lived in that ward he would get my vote over the odious Mayor Martins wife.
Thank you Stratton Man. Do you want to help me with my campaign? If so please email me on rns1951@btinternet.c
om. That applies to anyone else on here who wants to make a difference.

Who else is prepared to stand? The more of us who offer ourselves the more likely we are to make an impact and that very important difference..
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: Richard Symonds is standing as an independent in Shaw.If I lived in that ward he would get my vote over the odious Mayor Martins wife.[/p][/quote]Thank you Stratton Man. Do you want to help me with my campaign? If so please email me on rns1951@btinternet.c om. That applies to anyone else on here who wants to make a difference. Who else is prepared to stand? The more of us who offer ourselves the more likely we are to make an impact and that very important difference.. Richard Symonds

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