Residents rattled by lorries and speeding

This Is Wiltshire: Residents of Gipsy Lane are unhappy with the frequency of traffic along the road. Police are Residents of Gipsy Lane are unhappy with the frequency of traffic along the road. Police are

SPEEDING traffic and heavy goods vehicles rattling properties in Gipsy Lane has driven Neil Edwards and other residents to the police and council for action to be taken.

The 45-year-old has lived in the Gorse Hill road for eight years and has raised the issue for several years without any success, but may be making inroads with neighbourhood police.

PC Stacey McGarry, community beat manager for Gorse Hill, has pushed the matter into the top three issues she and her team will crack down on for a three-month period.

Whereas the HGV issue may continue for some while longer, as Swindon Council continues to weigh up the complaints and how it might feasibly tackle them.

“I had no illusions when I moved here, but I didn’t realise how fast they went,” said Mr Edwards, a temporary worker at South Marston Distribution Centre.

“Every car speeds, don’t they? Flashing lights have been put in place to tell drivers when they are going too fast, but in all honesty they don’t work and people get used to seeing them flash.

“We get police speed checks as and when we can. Stacey’s been on speed gun training and is out there once a month, but it’s not going to have much of an effect. If you see a copper you’re going to slow down, people aren’t stupid.”

The issue was raised at a meeting organised by Swindon Council for all issues in the North Central locality, at which a suggestion was made for a speed camera to be introduced in the road.

Mr Edwards agreed with the merits of the idea and felt it was the only answer to bring this issue to a close, though he accepted the council may no longer back such ideas.

The issue was made a priority for local police at the end of February, and since then PC McGarry and her team have attempted to crack down.

The matter will remain a priority until the end of May, when the neighbourhood team will reassess its main focuses.

“We have recently resurrected this as a priority in Swindon following discussions at the local neighbourhood community meeting,” she said.

“Police will be showing a highly visible presence in the area, conducting speed checks and my advice to all the local motorists would be, keep to the speed limit or face a £100 fine and three points on their licence.

“To be honest, we haven’t caught or prosecuted many speeders, it just seems to be when the traffic flow is lighter, that’s when people tend to pick up their speed.”

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8:47am Thu 17 Apr 14

anotherimigrant says...

“To be honest, we haven’t caught or prosecuted many speeders, it just seems to be when the traffic flow is lighter, that’s when people tend to pick up their speed.”

Says it all really.

Get a life, you moved to an area that is industrialised and you live on a main road. Looser.
“To be honest, we haven’t caught or prosecuted many speeders, it just seems to be when the traffic flow is lighter, that’s when people tend to pick up their speed.” Says it all really. Get a life, you moved to an area that is industrialised and you live on a main road. Looser. anotherimigrant
  • Score: 18

8:56am Thu 17 Apr 14

are u mad says...

Get a life will you!!!

Next you'll be moving to Staines and complaining about the noise from planes in and out of heathrow!!!
Get a life will you!!! Next you'll be moving to Staines and complaining about the noise from planes in and out of heathrow!!! are u mad
  • Score: 22

11:38am Thu 17 Apr 14

BCDR99 says...

That's what happens when you close roads. Why can't traffic come through the industrial estate at Elgin like it used to?
Why can't through traffic use Shrivenham Road like it always used to?

If you limit options for traffic, it's all going to be forced down fewer and fewer roads.

If you want to live in a cul-de-sac, buy a house in a cul-de-sac. Don't buy a house on a through road and then complain to the council for the rest of your life or start a campaign to have it turned in to a cul-de-sac. If every road were a cul-de-sac nobody would be able to drive anywhere.
That's what happens when you close roads. Why can't traffic come through the industrial estate at Elgin like it used to? Why can't through traffic use Shrivenham Road like it always used to? If you limit options for traffic, it's all going to be forced down fewer and fewer roads. If you want to live in a cul-de-sac, buy a house in a cul-de-sac. Don't buy a house on a through road and then complain to the council for the rest of your life or start a campaign to have it turned in to a cul-de-sac. If every road were a cul-de-sac nobody would be able to drive anywhere. BCDR99
  • Score: 17

11:57am Thu 17 Apr 14

themoonraker says...

You are having a laugh, the police can't be bothered to address the problem of speeding motorists where I live, and we have had road fatalaties over the last couple of years.
You are having a laugh, the police can't be bothered to address the problem of speeding motorists where I live, and we have had road fatalaties over the last couple of years. themoonraker
  • Score: -13

12:32pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Surely the fact that the police haven't caught many cars speeding suggests that there really is no problem.
Surely the fact that the police haven't caught many cars speeding suggests that there really is no problem. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 22

12:55pm Thu 17 Apr 14

themoonraker says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Surely the fact that the police haven't caught many cars speeding suggests that there really is no problem.
Oh how naive you are, the police need to spend more than 1 hour, for more than two days immediately after an accident, to have any effect.
It also makes a mockery of any 'speed trap' when police vehicles/personnel can clearly be seen when waiting at traffic ligfhts.
It may also be beneficial if checks were made early mornings and especially late evenings when the roads have less traffic and more speeding vehicles, but that does of course mean that policing needs to be done outside the hours of 9.00am to 5.00pm , but it appears that road traffic policing within the town, only occurs outside these hours in the aftermath of an accident.
Maybe there is a case for fixed traffic cameras in some areas of Swindon? but then again if they were reinstalled they would probably target the dual; carriageways around the town as that is 'easy pickings' and has very little bearing, and continues to ignore the problems encoutered on any street with housing alongside the road.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Surely the fact that the police haven't caught many cars speeding suggests that there really is no problem.[/p][/quote]Oh how naive you are, the police need to spend more than 1 hour, for more than two days immediately after an accident, to have any effect. It also makes a mockery of any 'speed trap' when police vehicles/personnel can clearly be seen when waiting at traffic ligfhts. It may also be beneficial if checks were made early mornings and especially late evenings when the roads have less traffic and more speeding vehicles, but that does of course mean that policing needs to be done outside the hours of 9.00am to 5.00pm , but it appears that road traffic policing within the town, only occurs outside these hours in the aftermath of an accident. Maybe there is a case for fixed traffic cameras in some areas of Swindon? but then again if they were reinstalled they would probably target the dual; carriageways around the town as that is 'easy pickings' and has very little bearing, and continues to ignore the problems encoutered on any street with housing alongside the road. themoonraker
  • Score: -9

1:19pm Thu 17 Apr 14

house on the hill says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Surely the fact that the police haven't caught many cars speeding suggests that there really is no problem.
Pretty much everyone breaks the speed limit every time they get in their car in reality, it most cases it may only be by a small amount but they are still breaking the law. No one seems to care about speeding and seem to think they have some god given right to decide what is safe and what isn't. I doubt many will agree but as 95% of all car crashes and deaths are driver error it is pretty clear no one really cares about how they drive.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Surely the fact that the police haven't caught many cars speeding suggests that there really is no problem.[/p][/quote]Pretty much everyone breaks the speed limit every time they get in their car in reality, it most cases it may only be by a small amount but they are still breaking the law. No one seems to care about speeding and seem to think they have some god given right to decide what is safe and what isn't. I doubt many will agree but as 95% of all car crashes and deaths are driver error it is pretty clear no one really cares about how they drive. house on the hill
  • Score: -4

1:20pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Davey Gravey says...

It's usually so rammed with traffic speeding is impossible. Hgv traffic is inevitable and unavoidable. Sounds like the fella just doesn't want anything along the road. Sorry, but the road concerned is a vital town route. Live with it or sell up!
It's usually so rammed with traffic speeding is impossible. Hgv traffic is inevitable and unavoidable. Sounds like the fella just doesn't want anything along the road. Sorry, but the road concerned is a vital town route. Live with it or sell up! Davey Gravey
  • Score: 14

2:12pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Oik1 says...

“To be honest, we haven’t caught or prosecuted many speeders,"

That says volumes then dosn't it?
This fella is having his annual whinge and whine about the traffic that was there and using this road well before he moved in, if you buy a house in an industrial area of a town then you will get HGV lorries passing by not to mention all the employees to and from work.
Don't let the Police waste another minute on this non issue.
“To be honest, we haven’t caught or prosecuted many speeders," That says volumes then dosn't it? This fella is having his annual whinge and whine about the traffic that was there and using this road well before he moved in, if you buy a house in an industrial area of a town then you will get HGV lorries passing by not to mention all the employees to and from work. Don't let the Police waste another minute on this non issue. Oik1
  • Score: 8

5:37pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

themoonraker wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Surely the fact that the police haven't caught many cars speeding suggests that there really is no problem.
Oh how naive you are, the police need to spend more than 1 hour, for more than two days immediately after an accident, to have any effect.
It also makes a mockery of any 'speed trap' when police vehicles/personnel can clearly be seen when waiting at traffic ligfhts.
It may also be beneficial if checks were made early mornings and especially late evenings when the roads have less traffic and more speeding vehicles, but that does of course mean that policing needs to be done outside the hours of 9.00am to 5.00pm , but it appears that road traffic policing within the town, only occurs outside these hours in the aftermath of an accident.
Maybe there is a case for fixed traffic cameras in some areas of Swindon? but then again if they were reinstalled they would probably target the dual; carriageways around the town as that is 'easy pickings' and has very little bearing, and continues to ignore the problems encoutered on any street with housing alongside the road.
I maybe many things but naive is not one of them.

I regularly drive down Gipsy Road (at different times of the day) and have never noticed any real problem with speeding vehicles, certainly no different to most other roads in Swindon. I would thing the main cause of the man's distress is probably the noise from the lorries, but I doubt many of those are speeding. Unfortunately he lives on a busy road, end of story.
[quote][p][bold]themoonraker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Surely the fact that the police haven't caught many cars speeding suggests that there really is no problem.[/p][/quote]Oh how naive you are, the police need to spend more than 1 hour, for more than two days immediately after an accident, to have any effect. It also makes a mockery of any 'speed trap' when police vehicles/personnel can clearly be seen when waiting at traffic ligfhts. It may also be beneficial if checks were made early mornings and especially late evenings when the roads have less traffic and more speeding vehicles, but that does of course mean that policing needs to be done outside the hours of 9.00am to 5.00pm , but it appears that road traffic policing within the town, only occurs outside these hours in the aftermath of an accident. Maybe there is a case for fixed traffic cameras in some areas of Swindon? but then again if they were reinstalled they would probably target the dual; carriageways around the town as that is 'easy pickings' and has very little bearing, and continues to ignore the problems encoutered on any street with housing alongside the road.[/p][/quote]I maybe many things but naive is not one of them. I regularly drive down Gipsy Road (at different times of the day) and have never noticed any real problem with speeding vehicles, certainly no different to most other roads in Swindon. I would thing the main cause of the man's distress is probably the noise from the lorries, but I doubt many of those are speeding. Unfortunately he lives on a busy road, end of story. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 8

7:09pm Thu 17 Apr 14

faatmaan says...

the trading estate and road were established routes back in the seventies, so he can hardly claim this has recently happened , if anything the closure of elgin drive at its junction with gypsy lane improved the situation, so this is again the individual trying to reshape the road system to favour himself and move the problem onto others, plus lorries have to drive carefully on that road due to the nature of its layout.
the trading estate and road were established routes back in the seventies, so he can hardly claim this has recently happened , if anything the closure of elgin drive at its junction with gypsy lane improved the situation, so this is again the individual trying to reshape the road system to favour himself and move the problem onto others, plus lorries have to drive carefully on that road due to the nature of its layout. faatmaan
  • Score: 1

12:19pm Fri 18 Apr 14

House with no name says...

The traffic and road system throughout Swindon is a mess caused by successive Council administrations failing to plan an overall strategy and looking to the future - Just look at how many new roads that have been built but are now far too small to take traffic - why are double decker buses running around with hardly any passengers when they have routes all to themselves, why are all the park & ride areas that cost us hundreds of thousand of pounds now derelict.

It is all down to lazy planning without a firm objective.
The traffic and road system throughout Swindon is a mess caused by successive Council administrations failing to plan an overall strategy and looking to the future - Just look at how many new roads that have been built but are now far too small to take traffic - why are double decker buses running around with hardly any passengers when they have routes all to themselves, why are all the park & ride areas that cost us hundreds of thousand of pounds now derelict. It is all down to lazy planning without a firm objective. House with no name
  • Score: 3

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