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This Is Wiltshire: Swindon goes to the polls on May 22 Swindon goes to the polls on May 22

The local elections take place on May 22. The Adver has spoken to all the main party leaders asking them what their parties are representing in the lead-up to polling...

 

This Is Wiltshire: Swindon Council Leader David Renard

CONSERVATIVE - David Renard, leader

SWINDON has come a long way since the Conservatives rescued the town from its ranking as one of the 12 worst in England.

Today, we have affordable, quality public services that ensure that we care for vulnerable children, those with learning difficulties, and the elderly, while still freezing the Council Tax for four years in a row.

That is because only your Conservative councillors are making the tough but necessary decisions.

We worked with our public sector partners to build Kimmerfield Court and the Whalebridge Car Park; we are supporting private developers who are turning the old college site into a new cinema and recreation area. More new buildings will follow.

We have supported local shops and business by maintaining our lower parking charge of £2 for four hours when rival towns were increasing theirs.

We are supporting local employers and our heritage through our role in securing a new University Technology College in the old railway works.

Back in 2003, we faced a £60m plus backlog of repairs to our schools. We have invested over £150m by building or refurbishing 14 schools.

We are supporting new technologies, such as our plans for solar sound barriers along the A419 and M4 that will protect residents, generate power, and earn the Borough money.

Following the multi-million pound restoration of Lydiard Park, along with the installation of a new roof and ice rink at West Swindon, the Council has secured £65m investment to refurbish the Oasis and install a SnowDome.

We are working with private sponsors to secure a new art gallery and museum that will complement our award-winning central library.

The Conservative Group shares local residents’ ambitions for a prosperous town that is a good place in which to live, work, shop and enjoy leisure.

That is what we are delivering.

 

This Is Wiltshire: Talis Kimberley

GREEN PARTY - Talis Kimberley, spokesperson

SWINDON Area Green Party are fielding candidates in several of Swindon’s wards this May, including two – Steve Thompson (Gorsehill & Pinehurst) and Talis Kimberley (Wroughton & Wichelstowe) – with particularly high profiles in their local communities.

All the local Green candidates endorse the ‘Better Swindon’ Principles for better governance.

These seek to improve standards of transparency and integrity in our local politics, as highlighted by recent events.

We believe that councillors should behave with respect for all the people of Swindon, and that a robust system should be in place to call them to account should they fail in this.

Housing is a major issue in Swindon.

Many tenants are insecure in their homes, and benefit cuts threaten their ability to remain where family, work, school and care links are already established.

Housing policy must go beyond simply building new homes for sale.

This is especially so if those houses continue to be built on greenfield sites rather than brownfield, if the floodplain and local drainage requirements are ignored or just pushed downstream, and if the new houses built are not in fact affordable to the people needing homes.

Transport policy has to take greater account of pedestrians, cyclists and public transport users.

The Green Party fully supports the proposed solar farm at the Wroughton Airfield, and are dismayed that this has been pushed to a Public Enquiry.

This is despite the considerable local support the project has, and a clear national need to increase our use of safe, non-destructive energy sources.

Swindon Greens will also urge Swindon Council to rethink its £40-a-year green waste policy – a backward step, surely, after many years’ progress in increasing the recycling take-up in Swindon.

Community composting and shared resources should form part of a more positive and grassroots approach.”

 

This Is Wiltshire: ElectionsModule Candidate photo

LABOUR - Jim Grant, leader

IN THE forthcoming local elections residents will have a choice of political administration between an out of touch Conservative Group, supported in office by Swindon’s Liberal Democrat Councillors, or a Labour Group who have formed positive council policies based on the views of residents.

If Labour is elected in May we would end the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats’ £40 green waste collection charge and reintroduce a free green waste collection service paid for through sensible savings from consultants’ bills, senior management costs and councillors’ allowances.

Residents expressed that they valued the free green waste collection service in the council’s recent consultation and we have found the money to continue to deliver it.

We will also seek to address three big issues facing Swindon – the first is the poor state of Swindon’s roads; the second is regarding the traffic problems facing the town and the third is the lack of affordable housing for people on low incomes, to live in.

We will address the poor state of Swindon’s roads by using a Government grant to increase the amount spent on resurfacing our roads by £2m. We will seek to mitigate the traffic challenges facing the town by kickstarting the construction of a new Thamesdown Drive-Barnfield Link Road through funding the design work for the road.

And we will seek to reverse the rapid decline of affordable housing construction in the town, which the Conservatives have presided over, by building 300 new affordable homes every year.

Finally, a Labour administration would recognise the value local residents give to our precious green open spaces and country parks and ensure these areas will not be given away or be developed on.

This is the positive alternative Labour will offer compared to the Conservatives, who are supported by the Liberal Democrats.

 

This Is Wiltshire:

LIB DEMS - Stan Pajak, leader

EVERY election is important and the council elections on May 22 are no exception and could determine not only who runs but perhaps more importantly how our Council is run.

The Liberal Democrat position is crystal clear, putting Swindon and it’s people first and politics second.

We will not play party politics when the stakes are so high.

Every financial decision amid reducing resources and dramatically increasing needs has to be justified.

In such a situation there has to be working together across political groups and services. The One Swindon partnership is a clear example of this in action.

Putting Swindon first is all about making our town more attractive to its residents and business.

At long last we are seeing a redevelopment of the town centre. This has to be matched with preserving our wonderful heritage and keeping and enhancing our country parks.

For the Liberal Democrats this means pushing to make the old Technical college in Victoria road the new art gallery and museum.

It means letting residents decide more how the council spends its money where their live through more money going to localities.

It means freezing Council Tax whilst Protecting Lydiard Park and Croft playing fields. It means having enough secondary schools for the future, and in the right places. It means using the £250,000 the government has given for potholes in the right places. Our services have to be geared to the people they serve with schools and provision for the elderly clear priorities.

Above all our council needs to be a listening council. Consultations should involve residents at the earliest stage, councillor standards should be high and we should be engaging residents.

Every Lib Dem councillor elected makes the clear commitment of putting residents first, keeping in touch and getting things done.

 

This Is Wiltshire:

UKIP - John Short, leader

IN UKIP, we believe in having local people representing Swindon who are prepared to put the people that elected them above party politics.

While our councillors work towards shared aims and principles, unlike the other parties, UKIP do not believe in enforcing a party whip in local government.

Our councillors work for the people that voted for them, representing the interests of their local area rather than the officials of their own party.

Swindon Council has lost its way under the Conservatives and Labour through the use of a Cabinet system where decision-making is concentrated in the hands of a few individuals.

The voices of electors in individual wards have been pushed to the fringes and are often ignored or merely given lip-service.

The result is bad decision-making and a lack of appropriate direction, which has left us with an administration that is simply not delivering on the wishes of Swindon residents.

We want to tackle the real issues that affect everyone in our town. We desperately need to cut excess council management and remove private consultants to release funds for improving frontline service delivery.

We want smarter procurement and partnership with local firms in providing council services, including a focus on tackling youth unemployment and skills gaps by stimulating the local economy.

We need to plan for the long-term future in our infrastructure and development.

We need to stop landing future generations with debt-laden PFI public buildings and out-of-town development built over our green spaces, without adequate roads or school places.

We need to protect the vulnerable and take a tough line on crime and anti-social behaviour.

Vote UKIP on May 22 and you will get a UKIP councillor who will work for you and tackle the issues that we all care about in Swindon.

  • For a full list of candidates in each of Swindon's 19 wards, inlcuding pictures and profiles, click here.

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11:24am Wed 30 Apr 14

fuzzey says...

I have just seen the super new green wheelie van in our area for the first time .To empty 2 bins Cornwall ave (in my view )and 1bin in Devon rd .we had 3 strapping very smart looking guys sat up front .is this what we pay council for ??? Have they picked up the sacks littering Northern rd and Southbrook rd ???
I have just seen the super new green wheelie van in our area for the first time .To empty 2 bins Cornwall ave (in my view )and 1bin in Devon rd .we had 3 strapping very smart looking guys sat up front .is this what we pay council for ??? Have they picked up the sacks littering Northern rd and Southbrook rd ??? fuzzey
  • Score: 6

12:01pm Wed 30 Apr 14

fedupagain says...

Add to that the two bins in Surrey Road and the one in Ferndale - certainly not a cost-effective way of spending our money. Add to that the green bags not collected on Surrey Road and the use of what appears to be a private collection vehicle and you wonder just how much the cost of this exercise adds up to!
Add to that the two bins in Surrey Road and the one in Ferndale - certainly not a cost-effective way of spending our money. Add to that the green bags not collected on Surrey Road and the use of what appears to be a private collection vehicle and you wonder just how much the cost of this exercise adds up to! fedupagain
  • Score: 4

1:48pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste.

Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service.

It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.
I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste. Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service. It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group. ChannelX
  • Score: 5

2:17pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste.

Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service.

It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.
Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ?

Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way?
Looks miserable.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste. Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service. It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.[/p][/quote]Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ? Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way? Looks miserable. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -6

2:46pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste.

Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service.

It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.
Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ?

Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way?
Looks miserable.
This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up.

How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me?

Have you paid the £40?

Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position.

Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste. Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service. It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.[/p][/quote]Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ? Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way? Looks miserable.[/p][/quote]This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up. How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me? Have you paid the £40? Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position. Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour? ChannelX
  • Score: -1

2:47pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

Oh, and don't forget to say something about 'thumbs'.
Oh, and don't forget to say something about 'thumbs'. ChannelX
  • Score: -5

2:53pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste.

Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service.

It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.
Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ?

Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way?
Looks miserable.
This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up.

How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me?

Have you paid the £40?

Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position.

Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?
Lol. I'm critical of the Tories as it's there balls ups I comment on.
I've told you countless times I'm not pro labour and you still trot out the same old guff.

How many log ins are you using currently?
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste. Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service. It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.[/p][/quote]Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ? Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way? Looks miserable.[/p][/quote]This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up. How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me? Have you paid the £40? Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position. Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?[/p][/quote]Lol. I'm critical of the Tories as it's there balls ups I comment on. I've told you countless times I'm not pro labour and you still trot out the same old guff. How many log ins are you using currently? Davey Gravey
  • Score: -1

2:58pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste.

Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service.

It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.
Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ?

Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way?
Looks miserable.
This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up.

How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me?

Have you paid the £40?

Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position.

Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?
Lol. I'm critical of the Tories as it's there balls ups I comment on.
I've told you countless times I'm not pro labour and you still trot out the same old guff.

How many log ins are you using currently?
One. Just this one.

While I really couldn't care less whether you believe me or not (because you won't, because you're a bit worrying), seriously, don't believe everything the person who DOES use multiple logins tells you.

Who will you be voting for locally then old bean?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste. Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service. It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.[/p][/quote]Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ? Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way? Looks miserable.[/p][/quote]This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up. How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me? Have you paid the £40? Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position. Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?[/p][/quote]Lol. I'm critical of the Tories as it's there balls ups I comment on. I've told you countless times I'm not pro labour and you still trot out the same old guff. How many log ins are you using currently?[/p][/quote]One. Just this one. While I really couldn't care less whether you believe me or not (because you won't, because you're a bit worrying), seriously, don't believe everything the person who DOES use multiple logins tells you. Who will you be voting for locally then old bean? ChannelX
  • Score: -2

2:59pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

@Davey Gravy: have you paid the £40 green waste fee then?
@Davey Gravy: have you paid the £40 green waste fee then? ChannelX
  • Score: -5

3:03pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Davey Gravey says...

I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though.

No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary
I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though. No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary Davey Gravey
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Wed 30 Apr 14

beach1e says...

We have a council who revel in spending money on projects that benefit their friends ie the £400000 wi fi money given to a mate. We have a car park and fantastic new housing for social claimants. We have a council that has no respect for the people that pay council tax , we have a council that is so much in debt yet continues to pay for folly projects. We had a mayor that had to resign altho he must have had the backing of his team mates to stay. Ths council and Swindon in general couldnt get much lower. We have a town centre that is riddled with dossers,scroungers and thugs. Nice. Welcome to Swindon.
We have a council who revel in spending money on projects that benefit their friends ie the £400000 wi fi money given to a mate. We have a car park and fantastic new housing for social claimants. We have a council that has no respect for the people that pay council tax , we have a council that is so much in debt yet continues to pay for folly projects. We had a mayor that had to resign altho he must have had the backing of his team mates to stay. Ths council and Swindon in general couldnt get much lower. We have a town centre that is riddled with dossers,scroungers and thugs. Nice. Welcome to Swindon. beach1e
  • Score: 12

3:51pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though.

No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary
So, the Tories have actually saved you £40 then - and yet you still despise them.

Not voting Tory, not voting UKIP... maybe you'll vote LibDem eh?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though. No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary[/p][/quote]So, the Tories have actually saved you £40 then - and yet you still despise them. Not voting Tory, not voting UKIP... maybe you'll vote LibDem eh? ChannelX
  • Score: -8

4:27pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though.

No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary
So, the Tories have actually saved you £40 then - and yet you still despise them.

Not voting Tory, not voting UKIP... maybe you'll vote LibDem eh?
They haven't saved me anything. They have cut a service I used.

I said above I am not voting for the lap dogs. I made that mistake last time.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though. No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary[/p][/quote]So, the Tories have actually saved you £40 then - and yet you still despise them. Not voting Tory, not voting UKIP... maybe you'll vote LibDem eh?[/p][/quote]They haven't saved me anything. They have cut a service I used. I said above I am not voting for the lap dogs. I made that mistake last time. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -2

4:37pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though.

No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary
So, the Tories have actually saved you £40 then - and yet you still despise them.

Not voting Tory, not voting UKIP... maybe you'll vote LibDem eh?
They haven't saved me anything. They have cut a service I used.

I said above I am not voting for the lap dogs. I made that mistake last time.
Not voting Tory, UKIP or LibDem.

Hmm, I wonder who you might be voting for.

After all, if you don't vote Labour in your ward you are effectively voting for one of the above three.

But, then, OF COURSE you're voting Labour. I really have no idea why you even bother to pretend otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though. No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary[/p][/quote]So, the Tories have actually saved you £40 then - and yet you still despise them. Not voting Tory, not voting UKIP... maybe you'll vote LibDem eh?[/p][/quote]They haven't saved me anything. They have cut a service I used. I said above I am not voting for the lap dogs. I made that mistake last time.[/p][/quote]Not voting Tory, UKIP or LibDem. Hmm, I wonder who you might be voting for. After all, if you don't vote Labour in your ward you are effectively voting for one of the above three. But, then, OF COURSE you're voting Labour. I really have no idea why you even bother to pretend otherwise. ChannelX
  • Score: -4

4:37pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Davey Gravey says...

Thumb fiddling going on right now.
Thumb fiddling going on right now. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 0

4:47pm Wed 30 Apr 14

BeardyBill says...

ChannelX wrote:
I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste.

Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service.

It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.
Is this a Tory policy that you voted for as a Councillor?
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste. Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service. It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.[/p][/quote]Is this a Tory policy that you voted for as a Councillor? BeardyBill
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though.

No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary
So, the Tories have actually saved you £40 then - and yet you still despise them.

Not voting Tory, not voting UKIP... maybe you'll vote LibDem eh?
They haven't saved me anything. They have cut a service I used.

I said above I am not voting for the lap dogs. I made that mistake last time.
Not voting Tory, UKIP or LibDem.

Hmm, I wonder who you might be voting for.

After all, if you don't vote Labour in your ward you are effectively voting for one of the above three.

But, then, OF COURSE you're voting Labour. I really have no idea why you even bother to pretend otherwise.
I could vote green or spoil it.
I may well vote labour also, So what ?
Doesn't make me a supporter, activist and all the other things you have thrown my way previously.
What you fail to grasp is that people who are critical of Tories do not automatically become labour. Ok.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I have not decided who I will vote for yet. It won't be Tory, their lap dogs or ukip though. No I have not paid the £40 fee brought in by Tory cuts. I'll join the huge queues at the tip when necessary[/p][/quote]So, the Tories have actually saved you £40 then - and yet you still despise them. Not voting Tory, not voting UKIP... maybe you'll vote LibDem eh?[/p][/quote]They haven't saved me anything. They have cut a service I used. I said above I am not voting for the lap dogs. I made that mistake last time.[/p][/quote]Not voting Tory, UKIP or LibDem. Hmm, I wonder who you might be voting for. After all, if you don't vote Labour in your ward you are effectively voting for one of the above three. But, then, OF COURSE you're voting Labour. I really have no idea why you even bother to pretend otherwise.[/p][/quote]I could vote green or spoil it. I may well vote labour also, So what ? Doesn't make me a supporter, activist and all the other things you have thrown my way previously. What you fail to grasp is that people who are critical of Tories do not automatically become labour. Ok. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 5

5:00pm Wed 30 Apr 14

stratton man says...

like the sound of the cut in councillors allowances that Labour will introduce.What are your views on this channelx.Can you afford the paycut?.
like the sound of the cut in councillors allowances that Labour will introduce.What are your views on this channelx.Can you afford the paycut?. stratton man
  • Score: 3

5:54pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Thumb fiddling going on right now.
There sure is, look how many down votes you've given me!
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Thumb fiddling going on right now.[/p][/quote]There sure is, look how many down votes you've given me! ChannelX
  • Score: -4

5:57pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

stratton man wrote:
like the sound of the cut in councillors allowances that Labour will introduce.What are your views on this channelx.Can you afford the paycut?.
If it were down to me, I'd have all councillors work for no allowances.
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: like the sound of the cut in councillors allowances that Labour will introduce.What are your views on this channelx.Can you afford the paycut?.[/p][/quote]If it were down to me, I'd have all councillors work for no allowances. ChannelX
  • Score: 1

7:00pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Sir Fawn Maker says...

ChannelX wrote:
stratton man wrote:
like the sound of the cut in councillors allowances that Labour will introduce.What are your views on this channelx.Can you afford the paycut?.
If it were down to me, I'd have all councillors work for no allowances.
and all you'd get then are people with far too much money and time on their hands - is a council made up of one type of person really what you'd like.

I suppose if you do, you could always move to Pyongyang or Harare
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: like the sound of the cut in councillors allowances that Labour will introduce.What are your views on this channelx.Can you afford the paycut?.[/p][/quote]If it were down to me, I'd have all councillors work for no allowances.[/p][/quote]and all you'd get then are people with far too much money and time on their hands - is a council made up of one type of person really what you'd like. I suppose if you do, you could always move to Pyongyang or Harare Sir Fawn Maker
  • Score: -5

7:34pm Wed 30 Apr 14

stratton man says...

Channelx if you dont believe Councillors should be paid allowances why do you and your partner gleefully collect £300 per week between you.Just asking.
Channelx if you dont believe Councillors should be paid allowances why do you and your partner gleefully collect £300 per week between you.Just asking. stratton man
  • Score: 3

8:05pm Wed 30 Apr 14

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste.

Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service.

It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.
Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ?

Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way?
Looks miserable.
This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up.

How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me?

Have you paid the £40?

Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position.

Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?
It hasn't cost me £40 either and the council still take it away as its buried in the wheelie bin to be made into fuel pellets.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste. Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service. It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.[/p][/quote]Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ? Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way? Looks miserable.[/p][/quote]This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up. How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me? Have you paid the £40? Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position. Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?[/p][/quote]It hasn't cost me £40 either and the council still take it away as its buried in the wheelie bin to be made into fuel pellets. LordAshOfTheBrake
  • Score: 9

7:57am Thu 1 May 14

ChannelX says...

Sir Fawn Maker wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
stratton man wrote:
like the sound of the cut in councillors allowances that Labour will introduce.What are your views on this channelx.Can you afford the paycut?.
If it were down to me, I'd have all councillors work for no allowances.
and all you'd get then are people with far too much money and time on their hands - is a council made up of one type of person really what you'd like.

I suppose if you do, you could always move to Pyongyang or Harare
OK, so it's wrong to want councillors to be paid less... and wrong for councillors to be paid more?

And, let me guess, what they get at the moment isn't quite right either?

What would you suggest then?
[quote][p][bold]Sir Fawn Maker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: like the sound of the cut in councillors allowances that Labour will introduce.What are your views on this channelx.Can you afford the paycut?.[/p][/quote]If it were down to me, I'd have all councillors work for no allowances.[/p][/quote]and all you'd get then are people with far too much money and time on their hands - is a council made up of one type of person really what you'd like. I suppose if you do, you could always move to Pyongyang or Harare[/p][/quote]OK, so it's wrong to want councillors to be paid less... and wrong for councillors to be paid more? And, let me guess, what they get at the moment isn't quite right either? What would you suggest then? ChannelX
  • Score: 2

7:59am Thu 1 May 14

ChannelX says...

stratton man wrote:
Channelx if you dont believe Councillors should be paid allowances why do you and your partner gleefully collect £300 per week between you.Just asking.
I don't set the allowances.

I also can't control whether you believe misguided people or not.
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: Channelx if you dont believe Councillors should be paid allowances why do you and your partner gleefully collect £300 per week between you.Just asking.[/p][/quote]I don't set the allowances. I also can't control whether you believe misguided people or not. ChannelX
  • Score: -3

8:00am Thu 1 May 14

ChannelX says...

LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste.

Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service.

It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.
Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ?

Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way?
Looks miserable.
This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up.

How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me?

Have you paid the £40?

Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position.

Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?
It hasn't cost me £40 either and the council still take it away as its buried in the wheelie bin to be made into fuel pellets.
Win-win
[quote][p][bold]LordAshOfTheBrake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: I had a leaflet through my door from the Labour party that appeared to suggest the main/only reason I should vote for their candidate in May is because the evil Tories have imposed a 'stealth tax' on green waste. Given that I don't generate garden waste, and would take it down to the tip if I did, the Tory's policy has actually SAVED me money that Labour would otherwise tack on to some other area of local taxation... and which truly would then be an unavoidable stealth tax even if I don't use the service. It would appear the bad old days of Gordon Brown's 'system' of taxation is still well and truly alive and well within the local Labour group.[/p][/quote]Hahaha. Black is white eh ringer ? Could the adver have found a worse picture of Jim Grant by the way? Looks miserable.[/p][/quote]This move hasn't cost me £40 and my Council Tax hasn't gone up. How, therefore, is it a 'stealth tax' on me? Have you paid the £40? Jim Grant always looks like that - and as well he might, given his position. Still pretending you don't support the Labour party while openly posting telling people not to vote Tory but carefully neglecting to mention you want them to vote Labour?[/p][/quote]It hasn't cost me £40 either and the council still take it away as its buried in the wheelie bin to be made into fuel pellets.[/p][/quote]Win-win ChannelX
  • Score: 6

8:20am Thu 1 May 14

stratton man says...

Channelx why did you vote against the Labour motion to reduce Cabinet councillors allowances?.You had the opportunity to reduce them and opted to keep the gravy train rolling.Comments please.
Channelx why did you vote against the Labour motion to reduce Cabinet councillors allowances?.You had the opportunity to reduce them and opted to keep the gravy train rolling.Comments please. stratton man
  • Score: 0

9:21am Thu 1 May 14

ChannelX says...

stratton man wrote:
Channelx why did you vote against the Labour motion to reduce Cabinet councillors allowances?.You had the opportunity to reduce them and opted to keep the gravy train rolling.Comments please.
As I said above, I can't control whether you believe misguided people or not.
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: Channelx why did you vote against the Labour motion to reduce Cabinet councillors allowances?.You had the opportunity to reduce them and opted to keep the gravy train rolling.Comments please.[/p][/quote]As I said above, I can't control whether you believe misguided people or not. ChannelX
  • Score: -5

10:48am Thu 1 May 14

stratton man says...

Channelx are you saying you are not a borough councillor.I dont care one way or the other but if you have any integrity on the threads relating to Council matters you should declare an interest.
Channelx are you saying you are not a borough councillor.I dont care one way or the other but if you have any integrity on the threads relating to Council matters you should declare an interest. stratton man
  • Score: 4

11:33am Thu 1 May 14

ChannelX says...

stratton man wrote:
Channelx are you saying you are not a borough councillor.I dont care one way or the other but if you have any integrity on the threads relating to Council matters you should declare an interest.
Let's put it this way.

Somebody told me they think that you are Nigel Farage.

Therefore, I now think you are Nigel Farage. Doesn't matter what you post in response... you are Nigel Farage.

After all, what are you basing the fact that you believe I'm a councillor on?
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: Channelx are you saying you are not a borough councillor.I dont care one way or the other but if you have any integrity on the threads relating to Council matters you should declare an interest.[/p][/quote]Let's put it this way. Somebody told me they think that you are Nigel Farage. Therefore, I now think you are Nigel Farage. Doesn't matter what you post in response... you are Nigel Farage. After all, what are you basing the fact that you believe I'm a councillor on? ChannelX
  • Score: -5

12:32pm Thu 1 May 14

Davey Gravey says...

Are you a Tory councilor or not?
It's a simple question.
Are you a Tory councilor or not? It's a simple question. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 5

12:55pm Thu 1 May 14

stratton man says...

Channelx If you are not a Tory Councillor all you have to do is say so.Why do you refuse to answer a simple question?.
Channelx If you are not a Tory Councillor all you have to do is say so.Why do you refuse to answer a simple question?. stratton man
  • Score: 4

1:11pm Thu 1 May 14

BeardyBill says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Are you a Tory councilor or not?
It's a simple question.
A simple question you won't get an answer to.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Are you a Tory councilor or not? It's a simple question.[/p][/quote]A simple question you won't get an answer to. BeardyBill
  • Score: 5

1:23pm Thu 1 May 14

BeardyBill says...

Well so far I've had no-one on the door canvassing for support - very disappointing that they want our votes, but don't want to engage with us. Well, unless it's via these comments, and then using pseudonyms.

In terms of leaflets, only the UKIP nazis and Labour have bothered....(the UKIP one went straight back in the mail to their free post address) - not a sign of anything from the Tories or their Liberal whores.

The lack of conviction and effort from all sides is rather sad
Well so far I've had no-one on the door canvassing for support - very disappointing that they want our votes, but don't want to engage with us. Well, unless it's via these comments, and then using pseudonyms. In terms of leaflets, only the UKIP nazis and Labour have bothered....(the UKIP one went straight back in the mail to their free post address) - not a sign of anything from the Tories or their Liberal whores. The lack of conviction and effort from all sides is rather sad BeardyBill
  • Score: 3

2:29pm Thu 1 May 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

BeardyBill wrote:
Well so far I've had no-one on the door canvassing for support - very disappointing that they want our votes, but don't want to engage with us. Well, unless it's via these comments, and then using pseudonyms.

In terms of leaflets, only the UKIP nazis and Labour have bothered....(the UKIP one went straight back in the mail to their free post address) - not a sign of anything from the Tories or their Liberal whores.

The lack of conviction and effort from all sides is rather sad
To be fair, the Tories did come around my area. At a time when most people would be at work of course, to minimise the chances of actually having to speak to the populace.
[quote][p][bold]BeardyBill[/bold] wrote: Well so far I've had no-one on the door canvassing for support - very disappointing that they want our votes, but don't want to engage with us. Well, unless it's via these comments, and then using pseudonyms. In terms of leaflets, only the UKIP nazis and Labour have bothered....(the UKIP one went straight back in the mail to their free post address) - not a sign of anything from the Tories or their Liberal whores. The lack of conviction and effort from all sides is rather sad[/p][/quote]To be fair, the Tories did come around my area. At a time when most people would be at work of course, to minimise the chances of actually having to speak to the populace. The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 3

1:13am Fri 2 May 14

BeardyBill says...

ChannelX wrote:
stratton man wrote:
Channelx if you dont believe Councillors should be paid allowances why do you and your partner gleefully collect £300 per week between you.Just asking.
I don't set the allowances.

I also can't control whether you believe misguided people or not.
You don't set them, but you could CHOOSE not to take them, or to take a reduced amount. Are you a hypocrite as well as a Councillor?
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: Channelx if you dont believe Councillors should be paid allowances why do you and your partner gleefully collect £300 per week between you.Just asking.[/p][/quote]I don't set the allowances. I also can't control whether you believe misguided people or not.[/p][/quote]You don't set them, but you could CHOOSE not to take them, or to take a reduced amount. Are you a hypocrite as well as a Councillor? BeardyBill
  • Score: 4

1:47pm Sun 11 May 14

Talis Kimberley says...

It's true that only a minority of people will have their Green candidate appear on their doorstep... but we make our limited resources work hard, and rather than paying for a mailshot company to deliver glossy leaflets wholesale, we depend for our help on local activists, friends and supporters - of whom we have a steadily growing group.

So I'm sorry if yours hasn't been an address we've visited - this isn't lack of conviction or 'not bothering', it's simply doing the best we can with our present resources - you know, the way you'd want reasonable people to run a household budget... or a town's :-)

Talis Kimberley (Swindon Area Green Party Press Officer & Local Candidate)
It's true that only a minority of people will have their Green candidate appear on their doorstep... but we make our limited resources work hard, and rather than paying for a mailshot company to deliver glossy leaflets wholesale, we depend for our help on local activists, friends and supporters - of whom we have a steadily growing group. So I'm sorry if yours hasn't been an address we've visited - this isn't lack of conviction or 'not bothering', it's simply doing the best we can with our present resources - you know, the way you'd want reasonable people to run a household budget... or a town's :-) Talis Kimberley (Swindon Area Green Party Press Officer & Local Candidate) Talis Kimberley
  • Score: 0

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