‘Nightmare’ as A420 bypass closes

This Is Wiltshire: ‘Nightmare’ as A420 bypass closes ‘Nightmare’ as A420 bypass closes

THE first day of major roadworks along the A420 were described as a ‘nightmare’ by locals in Shrivenham yesterday.

Oxfordshire Council have closed the Shrivenham bypass for seven weeks meaning up to 20,000 extra vehicles will now pass through the village.

Residents described the road as being blocked solid with traffic while some businesses said trade had been affected.

Trucks weighing more than 8.5 tonnes were not meant to be passing through Shrivenham and instead go along the M4, but some say lorries had been ignoring the diversion.

Earlier this week the parish council asked motorists to try and avoid the route if possible but it was busy throughout the day yesterday, with morning and evening rush hour being particularly bad.

Julie Collins, who works at Bloomfields Deli, said: “We were anticipating the extra traffic so I set off for work early this morning but it didn’t make much difference.

“It was a nightmare and the cars were bumper to bumper. The traffic was moving very slowly. It’s never been that busy.

“On a normal day it would get busy in bursts but never constant like it’s been today. They’re meant to be stopping lorries which aren’t delivering but we’ve seen quite a few come through.”

Her colleague Julie Sealey said: “It’s been affecting our business as well. Normally on a Wednesday lunchtime we would have people queuing out of the door but it’s been very quiet today.

“We had one customer who drives down from her office every day to place orders but she said she won’t bother while the roadworks are being done.

“Hopefully it will improve because the traffic is not as bad during the lunch period so people can get in.”

The road is shut from the Bourton Junction up to the Watchfield Roundabout. For years Oxfordshire Council have been carrying out short term solutions but now they have decided to close the road for seven weeks to fix the problem permanently.

At the other end of the village to the Deli, the effects have not been as severe but locals are preparing themselves.

Kate Hall, of the Crown Pub, said; “We live here and at 7am it was definitely a lot more noisy than normal.

“We were preparing ourselves for it to be really bad but the traffic kept flowing just about. As long as that happens for the next seven weeks it should be okay.”

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7:00am Thu 24 Jul 14

house on the hill says...

We are always so quick to over exagerate, This is an "inconvienece" that some might have to spend a bit more time in their cars, no one died or had a life changing experience. If you want a nightmare then go and live in the Gaza Strip or Syria or even downtown LA which is basicall run by gangs and drug dealers.

If this is a nightmare how would they describe the Blitz during the war? Please lets have a bit of reality.
We are always so quick to over exagerate, This is an "inconvienece" that some might have to spend a bit more time in their cars, no one died or had a life changing experience. If you want a nightmare then go and live in the Gaza Strip or Syria or even downtown LA which is basicall run by gangs and drug dealers. If this is a nightmare how would they describe the Blitz during the war? Please lets have a bit of reality. house on the hill
  • Score: 33

7:51am Thu 24 Jul 14

The Jockster says...

house on the hill wrote:
We are always so quick to over exagerate, This is an "inconvienece" that some might have to spend a bit more time in their cars, no one died or had a life changing experience. If you want a nightmare then go and live in the Gaza Strip or Syria or even downtown LA which is basicall run by gangs and drug dealers.

If this is a nightmare how would they describe the Blitz during the war? Please lets have a bit of reality.
Bet you're not one of those "inconvenienced" though eh?
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: We are always so quick to over exagerate, This is an "inconvienece" that some might have to spend a bit more time in their cars, no one died or had a life changing experience. If you want a nightmare then go and live in the Gaza Strip or Syria or even downtown LA which is basicall run by gangs and drug dealers. If this is a nightmare how would they describe the Blitz during the war? Please lets have a bit of reality.[/p][/quote]Bet you're not one of those "inconvenienced" though eh? The Jockster
  • Score: -18

8:32am Thu 24 Jul 14

Chowmai says...

You have to be alive to complain.
You have to be alive to complain. Chowmai
  • Score: 1

9:18am Thu 24 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Poorly planned and unnecessary to close it completely. Most of the time workers seem to be stood around smoking and talking too.
Poorly planned and unnecessary to close it completely. Most of the time workers seem to be stood around smoking and talking too. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 0

9:49am Thu 24 Jul 14

Old Town says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Poorly planned and unnecessary to close it completely. Most of the time workers seem to be stood around smoking and talking too.
Do you ever actually post anything that isn't just moaning for the sake of moaning ?

Were you there watching the roadworks all day yesterday ? If not how do you know the workers spent most of their time "stood around smoking and talking" ?

At least put a bit of thought into posting something !

It's obvious the road needs to be mended - but I would think there is a way to plan this so it could be closed overnight and the opened during the day -- much like the A419 has been recently ?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Poorly planned and unnecessary to close it completely. Most of the time workers seem to be stood around smoking and talking too.[/p][/quote]Do you ever actually post anything that isn't just moaning for the sake of moaning ? Were you there watching the roadworks all day yesterday ? If not how do you know the workers spent most of their time "stood around smoking and talking" ? At least put a bit of thought into posting something ! It's obvious the road needs to be mended - but I would think there is a way to plan this so it could be closed overnight and the opened during the day -- much like the A419 has been recently ? Old Town
  • Score: 10

10:00am Thu 24 Jul 14

Davethered says...

Just can't understand why this country is so far behind others when it comes to road repairs. I saw a section of road far bigger than this repaired in less than one day in the states.
They have a convoy of trucks all in sync. The first one takes the top layer of Tar off and fires it into the truck behind
Then another cleans the surface , the next lays the new Tar and is followed by a roller. Absolutely great job , and done with very little inconvenience.
Suppose in this country it's to hard to make a simple system work.
Just can't understand why this country is so far behind others when it comes to road repairs. I saw a section of road far bigger than this repaired in less than one day in the states. They have a convoy of trucks all in sync. The first one takes the top layer of Tar off and fires it into the truck behind Then another cleans the surface , the next lays the new Tar and is followed by a roller. Absolutely great job , and done with very little inconvenience. Suppose in this country it's to hard to make a simple system work. Davethered
  • Score: 25

10:18am Thu 24 Jul 14

Peter DAY says...

What a shame closing the A419
wise up Shrivenham moaners you should have lived in the high street not a problem the traders will benefit.
What a shame closing the A419 wise up Shrivenham moaners you should have lived in the high street not a problem the traders will benefit. Peter DAY
  • Score: -5

11:07am Thu 24 Jul 14

Robh says...

They should have been constructing a new road to make it a dual carriageway.
They should have been constructing a new road to make it a dual carriageway. Robh
  • Score: 28

11:32am Thu 24 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

@old town.
I never moan for the sake of it.
No I wasn't at the roadworks watching.
When you pass any roadworks observe the staff and their behaviour.
I have put thought into my comment.
Your last point one of the reasons why it's pooorly planned as you provide a better alternative. I'd add that the inevitable problems it will cause for both shrivenham and the m4 and a419 more reasons. They could have had it down to 1 lane or had night closures.
@old town. I never moan for the sake of it. No I wasn't at the roadworks watching. When you pass any roadworks observe the staff and their behaviour. I have put thought into my comment. Your last point one of the reasons why it's pooorly planned as you provide a better alternative. I'd add that the inevitable problems it will cause for both shrivenham and the m4 and a419 more reasons. They could have had it down to 1 lane or had night closures. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -12

11:42am Thu 24 Jul 14

house on the hill says...

The Jockster wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
We are always so quick to over exagerate, This is an "inconvienece" that some might have to spend a bit more time in their cars, no one died or had a life changing experience. If you want a nightmare then go and live in the Gaza Strip or Syria or even downtown LA which is basicall run by gangs and drug dealers.

If this is a nightmare how would they describe the Blitz during the war? Please lets have a bit of reality.
Bet you're not one of those "inconvenienced" though eh?
Actually I drove through there yesterday so yes I was! Ok so it added a bit of time to my journey, but my view on what is important in life is clearly an awful lot wider than a lot of people. I have believed for a long time that some people must just be born miserable and think the world revolves around them and their lives and that no one else out there has anything going on in their lives that even come close! You just need to change your perspective on what is truly important and what really isn't!
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: We are always so quick to over exagerate, This is an "inconvienece" that some might have to spend a bit more time in their cars, no one died or had a life changing experience. If you want a nightmare then go and live in the Gaza Strip or Syria or even downtown LA which is basicall run by gangs and drug dealers. If this is a nightmare how would they describe the Blitz during the war? Please lets have a bit of reality.[/p][/quote]Bet you're not one of those "inconvenienced" though eh?[/p][/quote]Actually I drove through there yesterday so yes I was! Ok so it added a bit of time to my journey, but my view on what is important in life is clearly an awful lot wider than a lot of people. I have believed for a long time that some people must just be born miserable and think the world revolves around them and their lives and that no one else out there has anything going on in their lives that even come close! You just need to change your perspective on what is truly important and what really isn't! house on the hill
  • Score: 0

12:00pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Redz76 says...

I work in Lechlade where a huge amount of traffic is coming through, especially the big heavy long lorries that are finding the tight corners difficult to negotiate.. and are having to use the pavement as well. They have decided to try a 4 way traffic lights system but this is just a nightmare!! by early morning yesterday day one we had one cyclist nearly taken out!! a lorry and a bus going toe to toe and several near misses.. i fear its only a matter of time before there is a serious accident. Its going to be a very long 7 weeks.
I work in Lechlade where a huge amount of traffic is coming through, especially the big heavy long lorries that are finding the tight corners difficult to negotiate.. and are having to use the pavement as well. They have decided to try a 4 way traffic lights system but this is just a nightmare!! by early morning yesterday day one we had one cyclist nearly taken out!! a lorry and a bus going toe to toe and several near misses.. i fear its only a matter of time before there is a serious accident. Its going to be a very long 7 weeks. Redz76
  • Score: -5

12:14pm Thu 24 Jul 14

PaulD says...

Nightmare is a downgrade from Hell
Nightmare is a downgrade from Hell PaulD
  • Score: -2

12:20pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Old Town says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
@old town.
I never moan for the sake of it.
No I wasn't at the roadworks watching.
When you pass any roadworks observe the staff and their behaviour.
I have put thought into my comment.
Your last point one of the reasons why it's pooorly planned as you provide a better alternative. I'd add that the inevitable problems it will cause for both shrivenham and the m4 and a419 more reasons. They could have had it down to 1 lane or had night closures.
Blimey - I must read another "Davey Gravey" on here consistently moaning and groaning about everything then !!

You have put thought into your comment you say, yet by your own admission you haven't actually been anywhere near the roadworks -- and yet still find it OK to suggest that most of the workers are stood around smoking and talking......

Hmmmm ....................
......
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @old town. I never moan for the sake of it. No I wasn't at the roadworks watching. When you pass any roadworks observe the staff and their behaviour. I have put thought into my comment. Your last point one of the reasons why it's pooorly planned as you provide a better alternative. I'd add that the inevitable problems it will cause for both shrivenham and the m4 and a419 more reasons. They could have had it down to 1 lane or had night closures.[/p][/quote]Blimey - I must read another "Davey Gravey" on here consistently moaning and groaning about everything then !! You have put thought into your comment you say, yet by your own admission you haven't actually been anywhere near the roadworks -- and yet still find it OK to suggest that most of the workers are stood around smoking and talking...... Hmmmm .................... ...... Old Town
  • Score: 8

12:25pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Highworth Lad says...

moan about the condiction of the roads, moan where they are being repaired... #cannotwin
moan about the condiction of the roads, moan where they are being repaired... #cannotwin Highworth Lad
  • Score: 12

12:48pm Thu 24 Jul 14

house on the hill says...

Redz76 wrote:
I work in Lechlade where a huge amount of traffic is coming through, especially the big heavy long lorries that are finding the tight corners difficult to negotiate.. and are having to use the pavement as well. They have decided to try a 4 way traffic lights system but this is just a nightmare!! by early morning yesterday day one we had one cyclist nearly taken out!! a lorry and a bus going toe to toe and several near misses.. i fear its only a matter of time before there is a serious accident. Its going to be a very long 7 weeks.
Have to agree that the lights system has just made it worse, hopefully they will realise that and put it back to how they were before. But then we are talking about decision makers who sit in offices all day and have probably never even driven through there in their lives!
[quote][p][bold]Redz76[/bold] wrote: I work in Lechlade where a huge amount of traffic is coming through, especially the big heavy long lorries that are finding the tight corners difficult to negotiate.. and are having to use the pavement as well. They have decided to try a 4 way traffic lights system but this is just a nightmare!! by early morning yesterday day one we had one cyclist nearly taken out!! a lorry and a bus going toe to toe and several near misses.. i fear its only a matter of time before there is a serious accident. Its going to be a very long 7 weeks.[/p][/quote]Have to agree that the lights system has just made it worse, hopefully they will realise that and put it back to how they were before. But then we are talking about decision makers who sit in offices all day and have probably never even driven through there in their lives! house on the hill
  • Score: 1

1:17pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Eastcott says...

Typical NIMBYism. Thery'd probably rather the road developed potholes bigger than the Grand Canyon than have a bit of extra traffic be diverted through the town for a few weeks. That road badly needs resurfacing - I nearly lost control of my car going over a massive pothole on that stretch of the A420 a few months ago. And I happened to drive the diversion on its first day in place yesterday, and it all seemed to be running smoothly to me. I wish the contrastors all the best in getting the road sorted, and to hell with the moaners.
Typical NIMBYism. Thery'd probably rather the road developed potholes bigger than the Grand Canyon than have a bit of extra traffic be diverted through the town for a few weeks. That road badly needs resurfacing - I nearly lost control of my car going over a massive pothole on that stretch of the A420 a few months ago. And I happened to drive the diversion on its first day in place yesterday, and it all seemed to be running smoothly to me. I wish the contrastors all the best in getting the road sorted, and to hell with the moaners. Eastcott
  • Score: 8

1:19pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Redz76 says...

if you know Lechalde.... a car in the market place pulls out but is in between the lights so they cannot see what colour they are, when they get to the junction they are not aware of whether anything is coming from the direction of halfpenny bridge until you turn the corner.. lorries are getting stuck (due to size) and vehicles are having to mount the pavement so is an accident waiting to happen.

I know these repairs are essential but maybe not such a good idea to do them during the school holidays.

Yesterday it was taking an hour + to get from the petrol station/co op in lechlade to the market place so i'm not surprised tempers were a little frayed in this heat.
if you know Lechalde.... a car in the market place pulls out but is in between the lights so they cannot see what colour they are, when they get to the junction they are not aware of whether anything is coming from the direction of halfpenny bridge until you turn the corner.. lorries are getting stuck (due to size) and vehicles are having to mount the pavement so is an accident waiting to happen. I know these repairs are essential but maybe not such a good idea to do them during the school holidays. Yesterday it was taking an hour + to get from the petrol station/co op in lechlade to the market place so i'm not surprised tempers were a little frayed in this heat. Redz76
  • Score: 1

1:34pm Thu 24 Jul 14

nobody says...

Davethered wrote:
Just can't understand why this country is so far behind others when it comes to road repairs. I saw a section of road far bigger than this repaired in less than one day in the states.
They have a convoy of trucks all in sync. The first one takes the top layer of Tar off and fires it into the truck behind
Then another cleans the surface , the next lays the new Tar and is followed by a roller. Absolutely great job , and done with very little inconvenience.
Suppose in this country it's to hard to make a simple system work.
Because in this country we have metalwork in the carriageway. Other countries usually have sewer access etc at the side of the road, this makes it much quicker, easier and cheaper to resurface a road.
[quote][p][bold]Davethered[/bold] wrote: Just can't understand why this country is so far behind others when it comes to road repairs. I saw a section of road far bigger than this repaired in less than one day in the states. They have a convoy of trucks all in sync. The first one takes the top layer of Tar off and fires it into the truck behind Then another cleans the surface , the next lays the new Tar and is followed by a roller. Absolutely great job , and done with very little inconvenience. Suppose in this country it's to hard to make a simple system work.[/p][/quote]Because in this country we have metalwork in the carriageway. Other countries usually have sewer access etc at the side of the road, this makes it much quicker, easier and cheaper to resurface a road. nobody
  • Score: 3

1:47pm Thu 24 Jul 14

BitterLemon says...

Travelling to Oxford and back daily on the bus I thought it was going to be a headache - but yesterday and today I actually got in earlier than usual. Returning was also not an issue. I can't comment on the rest of the day but at approx 8.30pm and 7.10pm it was fine coming through Shrivenham. More traffic than usual but no hold ups.

I also saw the workforce turning a lorry around which was trying to go through Shrivenham, so nice to know they are enforcing that (or were for the first day!)
Travelling to Oxford and back daily on the bus I thought it was going to be a headache - but yesterday and today I actually got in earlier than usual. Returning was also not an issue. I can't comment on the rest of the day but at approx 8.30pm and 7.10pm it was fine coming through Shrivenham. More traffic than usual but no hold ups. I also saw the workforce turning a lorry around which was trying to go through Shrivenham, so nice to know they are enforcing that (or were for the first day!) BitterLemon
  • Score: 6

2:26pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Blackmalkin says...

I don't think this is a straight resurfacing; the road is much too far gone for that and needs digging out properly. They are also fixing some crash barriers and drainage. Still reckon they could do it in a week with a bit of extra resource; and I bet it's done in five rather than seven.

Why is it being done in the holidays? Because there is less work traffic and it's not much of a holiday route, so it makes total sense. On the other hand, it's putting extra load onto the A34 which is definitely a holiday route to the ferries, so you can't win them all.
I don't think this is a straight resurfacing; the road is much too far gone for that and needs digging out properly. They are also fixing some crash barriers and drainage. Still reckon they could do it in a week with a bit of extra resource; and I bet it's done in five rather than seven. Why is it being done in the holidays? Because there is less work traffic and it's not much of a holiday route, so it makes total sense. On the other hand, it's putting extra load onto the A34 which is definitely a holiday route to the ferries, so you can't win them all. Blackmalkin
  • Score: 5

3:18pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

It's useful training for Shrivenham.
They will experience this level of traffic permanently when the easter expansion begins
It's useful training for Shrivenham. They will experience this level of traffic permanently when the easter expansion begins Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 4

5:06pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Tanglefoot1 says...

Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.
Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal. Tanglefoot1
  • Score: 4

7:01pm Thu 24 Jul 14

TheBlackHand says...

We'll with very few lorries on the A420 my daily journey is not only quicker but safer
We'll with very few lorries on the A420 my daily journey is not only quicker but safer TheBlackHand
  • Score: 2

8:12pm Thu 24 Jul 14

faatmaan says...

why are the police not enforcing traffic regulations, even if they are temporary, as soon as a few are caught and prosecuted the word will get round very fast, actions always speak louder than words, well done to the workmen who told the less obedient lorry drivers what or where to go !
why are the police not enforcing traffic regulations, even if they are temporary, as soon as a few are caught and prosecuted the word will get round very fast, actions always speak louder than words, well done to the workmen who told the less obedient lorry drivers what or where to go ! faatmaan
  • Score: 0

8:23pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

TheBlackHand wrote:
We'll with very few lorries on the A420 my daily journey is not only quicker but safer
Unlikely t
[quote][p][bold]TheBlackHand[/bold] wrote: We'll with very few lorries on the A420 my daily journey is not only quicker but safer[/p][/quote]Unlikely t Davey Gravey
  • Score: -1

10:34pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Hels-bells says...

I was dreading facing this 'nightmare' as I work in Shrivenham and apart from a bit of traffic from those who are trying to go back through the village against the flow of traffic from east to west and getting stuck at the chicane, I've actually had a very smooth and swift journey to and from work both days. It's apparently been worse during the day rather than rush hour but the turning from A420 into Shrivenham/bourton has been deserted every time I've been through it (4 times so far this week). Much better now the schools have finished and the majority of lorries are going via the M4. Not so concerned now as it appears to be working but who knows, I might eat my words in a week or so!
I was dreading facing this 'nightmare' as I work in Shrivenham and apart from a bit of traffic from those who are trying to go back through the village against the flow of traffic from east to west and getting stuck at the chicane, I've actually had a very smooth and swift journey to and from work both days. It's apparently been worse during the day rather than rush hour but the turning from A420 into Shrivenham/bourton has been deserted every time I've been through it (4 times so far this week). Much better now the schools have finished and the majority of lorries are going via the M4. Not so concerned now as it appears to be working but who knows, I might eat my words in a week or so! Hels-bells
  • Score: 1

11:52pm Thu 24 Jul 14

GonzoYouMuppet says...

I Live in Shrivenham, i cant say its been a nightmare but all the problems that have happened have been poor management related and should have never happened if the project was correctly managed, Oxford council never put up proper signage to start with and trucks had no warning of the closure until they exited the sainsburys roundabout and were committed to the a420 by that time it was to late, its not a truck drivers fault if the signage is poor! the speed limit signs in the village were also missing i rang Oxford council yesterday to complain and was put though to the project manager whose attitude stank he just did not care, signs have now been put in place at sainsburys however they state "non motorway traffic no access ahead" so no idea what that's supposed to mean.
I Live in Shrivenham, i cant say its been a nightmare but all the problems that have happened have been poor management related and should have never happened if the project was correctly managed, Oxford council never put up proper signage to start with and trucks had no warning of the closure until they exited the sainsburys roundabout and were committed to the a420 by that time it was to late, its not a truck drivers fault if the signage is poor! the speed limit signs in the village were also missing i rang Oxford council yesterday to complain and was put though to the project manager whose attitude stank he just did not care, signs have now been put in place at sainsburys however they state "non motorway traffic no access ahead" so no idea what that's supposed to mean. GonzoYouMuppet
  • Score: 1

10:35am Fri 25 Jul 14

BCDR99 says...

Tanglefoot1 wrote:
Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.
How do these sort of things get thumbs up?? I see loads of cars running lights on Thamesdown Drive and at Kingsdown Crossroads but at no point do I think "all car drivers jump red lights!"
[quote][p][bold]Tanglefoot1[/bold] wrote: Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.[/p][/quote]How do these sort of things get thumbs up?? I see loads of cars running lights on Thamesdown Drive and at Kingsdown Crossroads but at no point do I think "all car drivers jump red lights!" BCDR99
  • Score: 1

12:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Sir Fawn Maker says...

BCDR99 wrote:
Tanglefoot1 wrote:
Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.
How do these sort of things get thumbs up?? I see loads of cars running lights on Thamesdown Drive and at Kingsdown Crossroads but at no point do I think "all car drivers jump red lights!"
Probably because of the holier than thou attitude of the cyclists that post their headcam videos on you tube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says "dismount"
[quote][p][bold]BCDR99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tanglefoot1[/bold] wrote: Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.[/p][/quote]How do these sort of things get thumbs up?? I see loads of cars running lights on Thamesdown Drive and at Kingsdown Crossroads but at no point do I think "all car drivers jump red lights!"[/p][/quote]Probably because of the holier than thou attitude of the cyclists that post their headcam videos on you tube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says "dismount" Sir Fawn Maker
  • Score: 1

12:38pm Fri 25 Jul 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

Sir Fawn Maker wrote:
BCDR99 wrote:
Tanglefoot1 wrote:
Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.
How do these sort of things get thumbs up?? I see loads of cars running lights on Thamesdown Drive and at Kingsdown Crossroads but at no point do I think "all car drivers jump red lights!"
Probably because of the holier than thou attitude of the cyclists that post their headcam videos on you tube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says "dismount"
Sounds pretty similar to the holier than thou drivers that post dashcam videos on youtube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says... Well, pretty much any instructional road sign is ignored by many....
[quote][p][bold]Sir Fawn Maker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCDR99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tanglefoot1[/bold] wrote: Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.[/p][/quote]How do these sort of things get thumbs up?? I see loads of cars running lights on Thamesdown Drive and at Kingsdown Crossroads but at no point do I think "all car drivers jump red lights!"[/p][/quote]Probably because of the holier than thou attitude of the cyclists that post their headcam videos on you tube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says "dismount"[/p][/quote]Sounds pretty similar to the holier than thou drivers that post dashcam videos on youtube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says... Well, pretty much any instructional road sign is ignored by many.... The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: -1

4:15pm Fri 25 Jul 14

goridebus says...

Gonzo - on the A34 and all around western Oxford there are huge signs saying "A420 closed at Shrivenham. Use A34". I don't think it's down to poor signage
Gonzo - on the A34 and all around western Oxford there are huge signs saying "A420 closed at Shrivenham. Use A34". I don't think it's down to poor signage goridebus
  • Score: 0

7:44pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Sir Fawn Maker says...

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man wrote:
Sir Fawn Maker wrote:
BCDR99 wrote:
Tanglefoot1 wrote:
Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.
How do these sort of things get thumbs up?? I see loads of cars running lights on Thamesdown Drive and at Kingsdown Crossroads but at no point do I think "all car drivers jump red lights!"
Probably because of the holier than thou attitude of the cyclists that post their headcam videos on you tube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says "dismount"
Sounds pretty similar to the holier than thou drivers that post dashcam videos on youtube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says... Well, pretty much any instructional road sign is ignored by many....
is there an echo on here or just someone without a mind of their own to make a point?
[quote][p][bold]The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Fawn Maker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BCDR99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tanglefoot1[/bold] wrote: Redz 76 commented on a cyclist nearly taken out in Lechlade due to temporary 4 way traffic lights,I expect the cyclist went straight through the red as normal.[/p][/quote]How do these sort of things get thumbs up?? I see loads of cars running lights on Thamesdown Drive and at Kingsdown Crossroads but at no point do I think "all car drivers jump red lights!"[/p][/quote]Probably because of the holier than thou attitude of the cyclists that post their headcam videos on you tube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says "dismount"[/p][/quote]Sounds pretty similar to the holier than thou drivers that post dashcam videos on youtube if they feel they have been wronged but of course there's never any footage of them being dipsticks at junctions or on footpaths or places where it says... Well, pretty much any instructional road sign is ignored by many....[/p][/quote]is there an echo on here or just someone without a mind of their own to make a point? Sir Fawn Maker
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7:52pm Fri 25 Jul 14

GonzoYouMuppet says...

goridebus wrote:
Gonzo - on the A34 and all around western Oxford there are huge signs saying "A420 closed at Shrivenham. Use A34". I don't think it's down to poor signage
Sorry i did not make it clear it was Swindon end, there was no signs.
[quote][p][bold]goridebus[/bold] wrote: Gonzo - on the A34 and all around western Oxford there are huge signs saying "A420 closed at Shrivenham. Use A34". I don't think it's down to poor signage[/p][/quote]Sorry i did not make it clear it was Swindon end, there was no signs. GonzoYouMuppet
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