E-petition calling for Averies blaze inquiry

This Is Wiltshire: Andrew Parkin Andrew Parkin

AN ONLINE petition calling for a public inquiry into the handling of the Averies Recycling fire has been launched.

Andrew Parkin, 59, who lives in Walcot and has been affected by the blaze’s smoke, has set up the e-petition on Swindon Council’s website.

The fire at the Marshgate site has been burning since Monday, July 21 and Andrew says residents are feeling frustrated and want to know why the incident hasn’t been dealt with quicker.

Firefighters are working with Averies, Swindon Council, NHS England, Wiltshire Police and the Environment Agency to deal with the blaze.

Andrew said: “This fire has affected a lot of residents and businesses. I believe that the petition is an opportunity for the public to get the answers that they deserve.

“Where I live, I have been directly affected by the thick smoke near my home.

“We’ve been told to stay inside and have our doors and windows closed.

“I’m disabled and have breathing difficulties so having my windows closed in the height of summer has left me struggling to breathe in my own home.”

Andrew said that for the council to consider his motion the petition will need to receive support from 1,500 people but he is optimistic that the public will get behind it.

He said: “I think the petition will get there as we’ve seen many, many people get very vocal on the issue.

“I understand the frustrations that the firefighters have had dealing with it as they’ve struggled to get round the site but there seems to have been a lack of consistency in the messages being sent out by Averies, the council and the Environment Agency.

We are now being told that the waste needs to be transferred. If that was the case, why has it taken so long to announce it?”

Last week, the authorities said that some of the extinguished waste would be moved, to the council-owned former Groundwell park and ride site to give firefighters more space to tackle the blaze.

Residents living near Groundwell protested against the decision and a public meeting was held on Friday to discuss it .

The authorities are considering other areas where the waste could be moved and an update about where it will go is expected this week.

The former park and ride site is favoured because it is covered by trees and the authorities claimed the waste would be out of residents’ sight.

If the transfer there receives the green light all the burnt waste will be fully extinguished before being transported.

It will also be covered over to reduce any adverse smells with 24-hour security.

Once the Marshgate fire is put out the authorities aim to return the waste to Averies as soon as possible.

Conservative councillors Dale Heenan, Emma Faramarzi, Oliver Donachie and Toby Elliot have also called for Averies to prove it has insurance.

In a joint statement they said: “Rumours are circulating that the Marshgate fire could land Swindon Council with a bill of over £400,000 for helping the fire service and the Environment Agency tackle the blaze, that Averies will save £100,000 in landfill tax and they have no insurance for the site.

“We call on Averies to publicly refute these rumours by providing their insurance company details to the council or commit to reimbursing the taxpayer in full for the cost of tackling the blaze.”

To sign the e-petition visit ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgEPetitionListDisplay.aspx?$LO$=1.

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8:18am Mon 11 Aug 14

Isthisthebestswindon cando says...

Andrew Parkin is absolutely right on this - the issue deserves a public enquiry and answers should be given to the many questions arising from this incident.

Hopefully lessons will be learnt and any potential repeat avoided for the people of Swindon.
Andrew Parkin is absolutely right on this - the issue deserves a public enquiry and answers should be given to the many questions arising from this incident. Hopefully lessons will be learnt and any potential repeat avoided for the people of Swindon. Isthisthebestswindon cando
  • Score: 30

8:31am Mon 11 Aug 14

Chowmai says...

Yep.
What Isthisthebestswindon cando said.
Yep. What Isthisthebestswindon cando said. Chowmai
  • Score: 23

9:52am Mon 11 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Absolutely the right thing to do
Absolutely the right thing to do Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 12

10:09am Mon 11 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

Put it out then worry about the effects of that after. Dragged on too long now.
Put it out then worry about the effects of that after. Dragged on too long now. Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: 19

12:03pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Oik1 says...

There should be a public inquiry into the running of the whole recycling industry in this country, it's certainly not as 'green' as people like to make out or think, what's happened here in Swindon is just the tip of a very big iceberg.
There should be a public inquiry into the running of the whole recycling industry in this country, it's certainly not as 'green' as people like to make out or think, what's happened here in Swindon is just the tip of a very big iceberg. Oik1
  • Score: 20

12:08pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Oik1 wrote:
There should be a public inquiry into the running of the whole recycling industry in this country, it's certainly not as 'green' as people like to make out or think, what's happened here in Swindon is just the tip of a very big iceberg.
Agreed. Although they don't like the truth to become common knowledge.

Definitely worth having an inquiry into the goings on at Averies.
[quote][p][bold]Oik1[/bold] wrote: There should be a public inquiry into the running of the whole recycling industry in this country, it's certainly not as 'green' as people like to make out or think, what's happened here in Swindon is just the tip of a very big iceberg.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Although they don't like the truth to become common knowledge. Definitely worth having an inquiry into the goings on at Averies. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 25

12:16pm Mon 11 Aug 14

KAG888 says...

Too much chat between too many agencies. Just put it out and then ask :
1) why was such a vast volume of waste allowed to accumulate within the site that has an area measurement that does not allow for this situation to be dealt with.
2) When did the Fire brigade last undertake a diligence check at the site, which hopefully would have foreseen this type of problem.
3) When did a council inspector last check (prior to this incident) the insurance cover and health and safety procedures at the site.
Too much chat between too many agencies. Just put it out and then ask : 1) why was such a vast volume of waste allowed to accumulate within the site that has an area measurement that does not allow for this situation to be dealt with. 2) When did the Fire brigade last undertake a diligence check at the site, which hopefully would have foreseen this type of problem. 3) When did a council inspector last check (prior to this incident) the insurance cover and health and safety procedures at the site. KAG888
  • Score: 19

12:31pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Davethered says...

If the smoke had been blowing across Broome manor or Lawns , it would have been sorted weeks ago.
If the smoke had been blowing across Broome manor or Lawns , it would have been sorted weeks ago. Davethered
  • Score: 20

12:39pm Mon 11 Aug 14

The Real Librarian says...

Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote:
Andrew Parkin is absolutely right on this - the issue deserves a public enquiry and answers should be given to the many questions arising from this incident. Hopefully lessons will be learnt and any potential repeat avoided for the people of Swindon.
Yup

One lesson would be to close Averies down and run them out of town
Two would be to site future companies out of town and away from houses
[quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: Andrew Parkin is absolutely right on this - the issue deserves a public enquiry and answers should be given to the many questions arising from this incident. Hopefully lessons will be learnt and any potential repeat avoided for the people of Swindon.[/p][/quote]Yup One lesson would be to close Averies down and run them out of town Two would be to site future companies out of town and away from houses The Real Librarian
  • Score: 16

12:42pm Mon 11 Aug 14

The Real Librarian says...

KAG888 wrote:
Too much chat between too many agencies. Just put it out and then ask : 1) why was such a vast volume of waste allowed to accumulate within the site that has an area measurement that does not allow for this situation to be dealt with. 2) When did the Fire brigade last undertake a diligence check at the site, which hopefully would have foreseen this type of problem. 3) When did a council inspector last check (prior to this incident) the insurance cover and health and safety procedures at the site.
True

Also ask what policies and procedures Averies had in place regarding this situation! i.e. What was their plan for putting out a fire and why has it not worked
[quote][p][bold]KAG888[/bold] wrote: Too much chat between too many agencies. Just put it out and then ask : 1) why was such a vast volume of waste allowed to accumulate within the site that has an area measurement that does not allow for this situation to be dealt with. 2) When did the Fire brigade last undertake a diligence check at the site, which hopefully would have foreseen this type of problem. 3) When did a council inspector last check (prior to this incident) the insurance cover and health and safety procedures at the site.[/p][/quote]True Also ask what policies and procedures Averies had in place regarding this situation! i.e. What was their plan for putting out a fire and why has it not worked The Real Librarian
  • Score: 22

1:21pm Mon 11 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

They just work on whatever level of fines they get it will be far less than they make for regularly flouting the rules. And whose fault is that!
They just work on whatever level of fines they get it will be far less than they make for regularly flouting the rules. And whose fault is that! house on the hill
  • Score: 16

4:06pm Mon 11 Aug 14

lilajaelyn says...

The Real Librarian wrote:
Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote:
Andrew Parkin is absolutely right on this - the issue deserves a public enquiry and answers should be given to the many questions arising from this incident. Hopefully lessons will be learnt and any potential repeat avoided for the people of Swindon.
Yup

One lesson would be to close Averies down and run them out of town
Two would be to site future companies out of town and away from houses
And what about the people who work there? How horrible must it be for them to read that you want them to lose their jobs? How would you feel if that was you? Take a second to think before commenting things like that. Yes it's awful how long the fire has been going but regardless not one person is happy about it I am sure. Everyone is suffering whether it's because they live or work near the site or even if they work for the company
[quote][p][bold]The Real Librarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: Andrew Parkin is absolutely right on this - the issue deserves a public enquiry and answers should be given to the many questions arising from this incident. Hopefully lessons will be learnt and any potential repeat avoided for the people of Swindon.[/p][/quote]Yup One lesson would be to close Averies down and run them out of town Two would be to site future companies out of town and away from houses[/p][/quote]And what about the people who work there? How horrible must it be for them to read that you want them to lose their jobs? How would you feel if that was you? Take a second to think before commenting things like that. Yes it's awful how long the fire has been going but regardless not one person is happy about it I am sure. Everyone is suffering whether it's because they live or work near the site or even if they work for the company lilajaelyn
  • Score: -13

6:18pm Mon 11 Aug 14

leafy1 says...

Don't Tar all the skip yards with the same brush here.If you want to see how waste is sorted properly go to Saunders Waste on Kendrick Ind Estate.He very rarely has a large pile because as soon as it comes through the gate it's sorted then out to the landfill ,the lads work tirelessly up there .Same with LK Skips on the same site ,as soon as the rubbish is in it's sorted and back out again.God's know's how Averies pile ever managed to get so big.................
....probably an avoidance of the dreaded Landfill Tax and a bigger wedge in the back pocket.
Don't Tar all the skip yards with the same brush here.If you want to see how waste is sorted properly go to Saunders Waste on Kendrick Ind Estate.He very rarely has a large pile because as soon as it comes through the gate it's sorted then out to the landfill ,the lads work tirelessly up there .Same with LK Skips on the same site ,as soon as the rubbish is in it's sorted and back out again.God's know's how Averies pile ever managed to get so big................. ....probably an avoidance of the dreaded Landfill Tax and a bigger wedge in the back pocket. leafy1
  • Score: 16

8:51am Tue 12 Aug 14

messyits says...

leafy1 wrote:
Don't Tar all the skip yards with the same brush here.If you want to see how waste is sorted properly go to Saunders Waste on Kendrick Ind Estate.He very rarely has a large pile because as soon as it comes through the gate it's sorted then out to the landfill ,the lads work tirelessly up there .Same with LK Skips on the same site ,as soon as the rubbish is in it's sorted and back out again.God's know's how Averies pile ever managed to get so big.................

....probably an avoidance of the dreaded Landfill Tax and a bigger wedge in the back pocket.
Agree--but there are small companies (cowboys) who pre-sort all skips in backyards and trading estates and sell metals and hardcore on with hazardous materials mixed in --close to a stream too where it is buried.
[quote][p][bold]leafy1[/bold] wrote: Don't Tar all the skip yards with the same brush here.If you want to see how waste is sorted properly go to Saunders Waste on Kendrick Ind Estate.He very rarely has a large pile because as soon as it comes through the gate it's sorted then out to the landfill ,the lads work tirelessly up there .Same with LK Skips on the same site ,as soon as the rubbish is in it's sorted and back out again.God's know's how Averies pile ever managed to get so big................. ....probably an avoidance of the dreaded Landfill Tax and a bigger wedge in the back pocket.[/p][/quote]Agree--but there are small companies (cowboys) who pre-sort all skips in backyards and trading estates and sell metals and hardcore on with hazardous materials mixed in --close to a stream too where it is buried. messyits
  • Score: 3

10:11am Tue 12 Aug 14

The Real Librarian says...

lilajaelyn wrote:
The Real Librarian wrote:
Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote: Andrew Parkin is absolutely right on this - the issue deserves a public enquiry and answers should be given to the many questions arising from this incident. Hopefully lessons will be learnt and any potential repeat avoided for the people of Swindon.
Yup One lesson would be to close Averies down and run them out of town Two would be to site future companies out of town and away from houses
And what about the people who work there? How horrible must it be for them to read that you want them to lose their jobs? How would you feel if that was you? Take a second to think before commenting things like that. Yes it's awful how long the fire has been going but regardless not one person is happy about it I am sure. Everyone is suffering whether it's because they live or work near the site or even if they work for the company
Two companies - two fires - smae directors

Something clearly wrong with the way they do things

The company is not fit for purpose. Let someone else have a go.
The workers can get jobs elsewhere - perhaps with the new organisation
[quote][p][bold]lilajaelyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Real Librarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: Andrew Parkin is absolutely right on this - the issue deserves a public enquiry and answers should be given to the many questions arising from this incident. Hopefully lessons will be learnt and any potential repeat avoided for the people of Swindon.[/p][/quote]Yup One lesson would be to close Averies down and run them out of town Two would be to site future companies out of town and away from houses[/p][/quote]And what about the people who work there? How horrible must it be for them to read that you want them to lose their jobs? How would you feel if that was you? Take a second to think before commenting things like that. Yes it's awful how long the fire has been going but regardless not one person is happy about it I am sure. Everyone is suffering whether it's because they live or work near the site or even if they work for the company[/p][/quote]Two companies - two fires - smae directors Something clearly wrong with the way they do things The company is not fit for purpose. Let someone else have a go. The workers can get jobs elsewhere - perhaps with the new organisation The Real Librarian
  • Score: 6

6:17pm Tue 12 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

at last some sensible comments on what is becoming a very serious problem at last somebody has stood up and is trying do something i hope all of you who have supported the idea of an enquiry have signed the petition i have,
at last some sensible comments on what is becoming a very serious problem at last somebody has stood up and is trying do something i hope all of you who have supported the idea of an enquiry have signed the petition i have, somwal25
  • Score: 4

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