‘We are not rogue operators,’ says boss of fire-hit firm

This Is Wiltshire: The fire at Averies Recycling The fire at Averies Recycling

The fire at Averies Recycling has been raging for more than a month. So far, Lee Averies, the director of the company, has said little about it. Now, he gives an exclusive interview to the Adver

How did the fire start?

Neither we nor the fire authority know yet what caused the fire, but it was discovered by a member of staff who spotted a small fire next to a skip lorry late in the afternoon of July 21. Our staff did the right thing in calling the fire brigade and then tried to extinguish the fire themselves, without putting lives at risk.

Unfortunately, the fire service were taking industrial action on that day. There was a delay in the fire service getting to the site, and firefighters were unable to prevent the fire spreading because of the location of the fire and the fact that some firefighting techniques were not permitted.

Why is it taking so long to put the fire out?

The site is a waste transfer and recycling depot, which means significant amounts of waste from various sources are brought onto the site, sorted, and then around 95 per cent of the waste is recycled – that is, transported to customers in this country or abroad. The remainder is sent to Germany for energy recovery. We send very little waste to landfill.

The UK waste industry is one of the most highly regulated in the world, and as a licensed operator, we believe rightly so. But when fires do unfortunately occur, several agencies become involved and it can be difficult to agree a solution that doesn’t infringe any of those regulations.

So, for example, in the first week the fire services tried to put out the fire, and when that proved unsuccessful we spent the second week moving waste off the site to another of our sites, at the request of the fire brigade. However, the Environment Agency then said they believed there was some risk of water that had come into contact with the burnt waste escaping from the waste into the ground, and they stopped us moving any more waste off the Marshgate site.

At the beginning of the third week we had a call from Swindon Borough Council asking if we would be prepared to move any more waste away from Marshgate, if they were able to find us a temporary location. Of course, we jumped at that opportunity, and they offered us the Park and Ride site at Groundwell.

We were very happy to move the waste there, and to arrange and pay for 24/7 security at the site, but then of course that site was deemed unsuitable. At that point, we really didn’t have anywhere to take it, so it remained where it was, with the fire continuing to smoulder.

Averies has said very little to the media. Why is that?

Yes, we have been quiet, but that’s because we’ve been concentrating all our efforts on getting the job done as fast as possible. Since day one, I and my staff have been working tirelessly with the fire authorities, as well as cooperating as far as we can with the Environment Agency, to try to extinguish the fire.

I must say that, contrary to what some media have reported, we have had a very positive and constructive relationship with the fire authorities throughout, and have also cooperated fully with the council. It’s not a case of Averies sitting there and waiting for others to solve the problem – far from it. It’s been a serious joint effort by all of us.

It’s been said that you were continuing to bring waste onto the site last week. Is that true?

Absolutely not. That would be completely irresponsible – and, frankly, madness. There have been some routine movements of lorries on and off the site, but we are all trying to resolve this problem as quickly as we can. We wouldn’t do anything that might make it last a minute longer than it has to.

So what is happening now?

Once we’d run out of options as to where to clear the waste, the Environment Agency stepped in late last Friday afternoon and served a notice on us to start moving the waste the following day.

Given that we’ve been prevented from taking the waste to other sites – and at that point there was no alternative site on offer for us to take the waste to – this was totally unrealistic and unfeasible.

The Environment Agency has been quoted as saying that we didn’t want to come to a resolution quickly. This is just not true. They have chosen not to involve us in their high level discussions, but have told us that the waste can’t go to landfill as it might reignite, so with no temporary storage site available we had no options open to us. The Environment Agency has since arranged for the waste to be transported elsewhere.

What have you got to say to the people of Swindon?

I am truly sorry that this fire has had such a significant effect on so many people, and I am also very sorry that it has gone on for so long.

I completely understand that many people are angry and frustrated, and I genuinely regret the discomfort or inconvenience people have suffered.

What I would just like to add, though, is that we’re not a rogue operator with no sense of moral or community obligations. We’re a responsible, regulated company that is part of an industry that minimises environmental damage by recycling waste material.

I would also want to thank our fantastic hard-working staff who have been as devastated by this as I have.

Finally, I’d like to thank all our customers and others for their messages of support at this time. I know that has meant a lot to the people here who have been working so hard to come up with solutions.

Waste is on the move

Stephen Taylor, chairperson of the Strategic Co-ordination Group which is leading the multi-agency plan to deal with the fire, said: “Multi-agency partners have explored several options to get the operator to remove waste from the site.

“As the operators of the site, Averies Recycling (Swindon) Limited (ARSL) bears the responsibility to run its site, not to cause a nuisance to others. Agreement was not reached with ARSL to cover the costs involved in using a site to temporarily store waste and requiring the waste to be returned to the Marshgate site in due course.

“Accordingly, the Environment Agency served a notice on the site owner requiring the removal of the waste.

“Due to the risk of pollution the Environment Agency appointed a contractor to take the waste to landfill, which will create the essential space for firefighters to put out the fire faster.

“Contractors removed the first loads of waste on Monday, August 18. We are grateful for the ongoing co-operation of local residents and businesses as we continue to focus on the challenging operation in hand.”

It is believed the waste is being transported to landfill near Blunsdon.

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6:52am Thu 21 Aug 14

M4 Bypass says...

One wonders what the definition of rogue means in Lee's mind, totally irresponsible is maybe what the public think. What do the licensing authorities say? Why is so much waste stored unprocessed ? What percentage of waste has been cleared/processed from the site since the start of the fire?
What did Lee change following the fine for dust pollution? After the fire at Swindon Skips Cheney Manor last year, what responsible procedures and practices did the joint Director Lee put in place at both sites.
Why would a responsible business would store it's assets in such an unsafe manner. Saying sorry is easy what are the fines, compensations and the future?
How much worse is a rouge operator?
One wonders what the definition of rogue means in Lee's mind, totally irresponsible is maybe what the public think. What do the licensing authorities say? Why is so much waste stored unprocessed ? What percentage of waste has been cleared/processed from the site since the start of the fire? What did Lee change following the fine for dust pollution? After the fire at Swindon Skips Cheney Manor last year, what responsible procedures and practices did the joint Director Lee put in place at both sites. Why would a responsible business would store it's assets in such an unsafe manner. Saying sorry is easy what are the fines, compensations and the future? How much worse is a rouge operator? M4 Bypass
  • Score: 42

7:30am Thu 21 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

it seems everybody is passing the buck and blaming each other. All those involved except for the fire-fighters don't come out of this fiasco looking good. there are so many conflicting stories that the only way anybody is going to find out what the truth is is to have a enquiry so please all sign the petition.
it seems everybody is passing the buck and blaming each other. All those involved except for the fire-fighters don't come out of this fiasco looking good. there are so many conflicting stories that the only way anybody is going to find out what the truth is is to have a enquiry so please all sign the petition. somwal25
  • Score: 28

7:47am Thu 21 Aug 14

Robh says...

It still doesn't answer the question why is so much waste being stored and not recycled?
It still doesn't answer the question why is so much waste being stored and not recycled? Robh
  • Score: 35

7:57am Thu 21 Aug 14

Blind Fury says...

Not a rogue? Responsible regulated company?.....Averies are licensed for 10,000 tonnes, but actually stored 16,000+ tonnes of unrecycled waste, including obvious nasties that account for the huge level of pollutants in the atmosphere! These places need to shut down and get relocated far out of town, no sympathy Lee, you obviously have no regard for local people and businesses.
Not a rogue? Responsible regulated company?.....Averies are licensed for 10,000 tonnes, but actually stored 16,000+ tonnes of unrecycled waste, including obvious nasties that account for the huge level of pollutants in the atmosphere! These places need to shut down and get relocated far out of town, no sympathy Lee, you obviously have no regard for local people and businesses. Blind Fury
  • Score: 38

8:22am Thu 21 Aug 14

stratton man says...

This is not an interview but a cynical PR statement.Whats the betting on Averies going bust to avoid paying the clean up bill and reappearing under a new name a few weeks later.
This is not an interview but a cynical PR statement.Whats the betting on Averies going bust to avoid paying the clean up bill and reappearing under a new name a few weeks later. stratton man
  • Score: 45

8:26am Thu 21 Aug 14

Cooking_by_smoke_alarm says...

Recycling eh? A bit of a misnomer there.







Recycling eh? A bit of a misnomer there.   Cooking_by_smoke_alarm
  • Score: 18

8:32am Thu 21 Aug 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children.
This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles.
It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.
Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children. This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles. It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it. A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 33

8:40am Thu 21 Aug 14

LocalBob80 says...

Too many contradictions in that "apology" to make it believeable.
Also no mention of Swindon Clownschool, why pile was allowed to accumulate, etc
Too many contradictions in that "apology" to make it believeable. Also no mention of Swindon Clownschool, why pile was allowed to accumulate, etc LocalBob80
  • Score: 24

8:54am Thu 21 Aug 14

South Stand says...

somwal25 wrote:
it seems everybody is passing the buck and blaming each other. All those involved except for the fire-fighters don't come out of this fiasco looking good. there are so many conflicting stories that the only way anybody is going to find out what the truth is is to have a enquiry so please all sign the petition.
Just a reminder that the firefighters 'who come out looking good', were actually on strike when this whole fiasco started.
[quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: it seems everybody is passing the buck and blaming each other. All those involved except for the fire-fighters don't come out of this fiasco looking good. there are so many conflicting stories that the only way anybody is going to find out what the truth is is to have a enquiry so please all sign the petition.[/p][/quote]Just a reminder that the firefighters 'who come out looking good', were actually on strike when this whole fiasco started. South Stand
  • Score: -11

8:59am Thu 21 Aug 14

umpcah says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children.
This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles.
It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.
" This site MUST be relocated outside of the town " Most people would instantly agree but where to ? Nimbies at say Highworth or South Marston would object the same as I would if plans were being drawn up for a site near to my home ! TRICKY !
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children. This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles. It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.[/p][/quote]" This site MUST be relocated outside of the town " Most people would instantly agree but where to ? Nimbies at say Highworth or South Marston would object the same as I would if plans were being drawn up for a site near to my home ! TRICKY ! umpcah
  • Score: 6

9:09am Thu 21 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

LocalBob80 wrote:
Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?
[quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie? Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 5

9:11am Thu 21 Aug 14

Iinandout says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children.
This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles.
It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.
Surprised you havnt blamed them for the problems in Gaza but your right it should be moved i am surprised the EA and SBC gave them a licence for that site in the first place ,But you cant blame them for all the nails,screws,metal objects on the road there other companys like garages,builders,and another waste company there.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children. This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles. It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.[/p][/quote]Surprised you havnt blamed them for the problems in Gaza but your right it should be moved i am surprised the EA and SBC gave them a licence for that site in the first place ,But you cant blame them for all the nails,screws,metal objects on the road there other companys like garages,builders,and another waste company there. Iinandout
  • Score: 5

9:16am Thu 21 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

I hope the investigation into this disaster is done properly and the blame is made to those who deserve it. In the meantime put the bloody fire out for Christ's sake.
I hope the investigation into this disaster is done properly and the blame is made to those who deserve it. In the meantime put the bloody fire out for Christ's sake. Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: 22

9:17am Thu 21 Aug 14

Iinandout says...

Blind Fury wrote:
Not a rogue? Responsible regulated company?.....Averies are licensed for 10,000 tonnes, but actually stored 16,000+ tonnes of unrecycled waste, including obvious nasties that account for the huge level of pollutants in the atmosphere! These places need to shut down and get relocated far out of town, no sympathy Lee, you obviously have no regard for local people and businesses.
I think you will find there license allows them to carry more than 10,000 tonnes on that site because i would have thought the EA would have shut them down if that was the case.
[quote][p][bold]Blind Fury[/bold] wrote: Not a rogue? Responsible regulated company?.....Averies are licensed for 10,000 tonnes, but actually stored 16,000+ tonnes of unrecycled waste, including obvious nasties that account for the huge level of pollutants in the atmosphere! These places need to shut down and get relocated far out of town, no sympathy Lee, you obviously have no regard for local people and businesses.[/p][/quote]I think you will find there license allows them to carry more than 10,000 tonnes on that site because i would have thought the EA would have shut them down if that was the case. Iinandout
  • Score: -4

9:35am Thu 21 Aug 14

Cooking_by_smoke_alarm says...

Iinandout says...


A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children.
This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles.
It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.
Surprised you havnt blamed them for the problems in Gaza but your right it should be moved i am surprised the EA and SBC gave them a licence for that site in the first place ,But you cant blame them for all the nails,screws,metal objects on the road there other companys like garages,builders,and another waste company there. Score: -1


But when a business has a licence to distribute/sell food to the general public, they undergo inspections and reports which are available for all to see (scores on the doors).

Then why not waste disposal sites, as they may be harbouring toxic material in amongst the 'general' waste; similar to food outlets which are poorly run, a potential hazard to human health.
Iinandout says... A.Baron-Cohen wrote: Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children. This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles. It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it. Surprised you havnt blamed them for the problems in Gaza but your right it should be moved i am surprised the EA and SBC gave them a licence for that site in the first place ,But you cant blame them for all the nails,screws,metal objects on the road there other companys like garages,builders,and another waste company there. Score: -1 But when a business has a licence to distribute/sell food to the general public, they undergo inspections and reports which are available for all to see (scores on the doors). Then why not waste disposal sites, as they may be harbouring toxic material in amongst the 'general' waste; similar to food outlets which are poorly run, a potential hazard to human health. Cooking_by_smoke_alarm
  • Score: 14

9:55am Thu 21 Aug 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

Can the boss, tell us or just confirm, that his firm will pick up the bills for this fiasco at the end of the day and not a penny will be passed on to the tax payer, or am I dreaming....
Can the boss, tell us or just confirm, that his firm will pick up the bills for this fiasco at the end of the day and not a penny will be passed on to the tax payer, or am I dreaming.... FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: 23

10:25am Thu 21 Aug 14

umpcah says...

FLOGGITLAD wrote:
Can the boss, tell us or just confirm, that his firm will pick up the bills for this fiasco at the end of the day and not a penny will be passed on to the tax payer, or am I dreaming....
Dream on lad !
[quote][p][bold]FLOGGITLAD[/bold] wrote: Can the boss, tell us or just confirm, that his firm will pick up the bills for this fiasco at the end of the day and not a penny will be passed on to the tax payer, or am I dreaming....[/p][/quote]Dream on lad ! umpcah
  • Score: 8

10:45am Thu 21 Aug 14

LocalBob80 says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?Self explanatory if you'd read the question fully Ollie.

Hope you enjoyed giving yourself a couple of points for that dull question.
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?[/p][/quote]Self explanatory if you'd read the question fully Ollie. Hope you enjoyed giving yourself a couple of points for that dull question. LocalBob80
  • Score: -2

10:47am Thu 21 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

LocalBob80 wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?Self explanatory if you'd read the question fully Ollie.

Hope you enjoyed giving yourself a couple of points for that dull question.How long did it take you to award yourself 9 points?
[quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?[/p][/quote]Self explanatory if you'd read the question fully Ollie. Hope you enjoyed giving yourself a couple of points for that dull question.[/p][/quote]How long did it take you to award yourself 9 points? Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 7

10:48am Thu 21 Aug 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Cooking_by_smoke_ala
rm
wrote:
Iinandout says...


A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children.
This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles.
It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.
Surprised you havnt blamed them for the problems in Gaza but your right it should be moved i am surprised the EA and SBC gave them a licence for that site in the first place ,But you cant blame them for all the nails,screws,metal objects on the road there other companys like garages,builders,and another waste company there. Score: -1


But when a business has a licence to distribute/sell food to the general public, they undergo inspections and reports which are available for all to see (scores on the doors).

Then why not waste disposal sites, as they may be harbouring toxic material in amongst the 'general' waste; similar to food outlets which are poorly run, a potential hazard to human health.
Absolutely
[quote][p][bold]Cooking_by_smoke_ala rm[/bold] wrote: Iinandout says... A.Baron-Cohen wrote: Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children. This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles. It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it. Surprised you havnt blamed them for the problems in Gaza but your right it should be moved i am surprised the EA and SBC gave them a licence for that site in the first place ,But you cant blame them for all the nails,screws,metal objects on the road there other companys like garages,builders,and another waste company there. Score: -1 But when a business has a licence to distribute/sell food to the general public, they undergo inspections and reports which are available for all to see (scores on the doors). Then why not waste disposal sites, as they may be harbouring toxic material in amongst the 'general' waste; similar to food outlets which are poorly run, a potential hazard to human health.[/p][/quote]Absolutely A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 9

10:50am Thu 21 Aug 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Iinandout wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children.
This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles.
It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.
Surprised you havnt blamed them for the problems in Gaza but your right it should be moved i am surprised the EA and SBC gave them a licence for that site in the first place ,But you cant blame them for all the nails,screws,metal objects on the road there other companys like garages,builders,and another waste company there.
Not sure where Gaza fits in the story.........
[quote][p][bold]Iinandout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Such a recycling site is dangerously too close to residential and we do not know how much dangerous dust is released and breathed by neighbours and children. This site MUST be relocated outside of the town, the road leading to and from the site is often full of nails, screws and sharp metal objects damaging other vehicles. It is the duty of this council to protect us! so MOVE IT or Close it.[/p][/quote]Surprised you havnt blamed them for the problems in Gaza but your right it should be moved i am surprised the EA and SBC gave them a licence for that site in the first place ,But you cant blame them for all the nails,screws,metal objects on the road there other companys like garages,builders,and another waste company there.[/p][/quote]Not sure where Gaza fits in the story......... A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 5

11:15am Thu 21 Aug 14

LocalBob80 says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?Self explanatory if you'd read the question fully Ollie.

Hope you enjoyed giving yourself a couple of points for that dull question.How long did it take you to award yourself 9 points?Fantastic.
Thanks for the microscopic effort you have made to read the original question and discuss it sensibly.

Your mummy must be so proud.

Feel free to thumb this comment down too.

I can assure you nobody cares.

This is the real world. Not the council chambers
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?[/p][/quote]Self explanatory if you'd read the question fully Ollie. Hope you enjoyed giving yourself a couple of points for that dull question.[/p][/quote]How long did it take you to award yourself 9 points?[/p][/quote]Fantastic. Thanks for the microscopic effort you have made to read the original question and discuss it sensibly. Your mummy must be so proud. Feel free to thumb this comment down too. I can assure you nobody cares. This is the real world. Not the council chambers LocalBob80
  • Score: 3

11:20am Thu 21 Aug 14

nato86 says...

Lee averies is a joke , he thinks hes a gangster ,ask his name and everyone has a story about him ,
he was a joke to work for
his business is an absolute joke
the workers tea cabin is a joke utter filth,
the whole outfit is a joke
is it just unlucky that the fire started when fire fighters were striking
how can someone who already set fire to one of his sites be aloud to run another site ......
averies should be thrown in jail and orders to pay compensation. To everyone in Swindon use this waist of flesh as an example
he should receive a jail sentence and never run a business again
Lee averies is a joke , he thinks hes a gangster ,ask his name and everyone has a story about him , he was a joke to work for his business is an absolute joke the workers tea cabin is a joke utter filth, the whole outfit is a joke is it just unlucky that the fire started when fire fighters were striking how can someone who already set fire to one of his sites be aloud to run another site ...... averies should be thrown in jail and orders to pay compensation. To everyone in Swindon use this waist of flesh as an example he should receive a jail sentence and never run a business again nato86
  • Score: 30

11:32am Thu 21 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

LocalBob80 wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?Self explanatory if you'd read the question fully Ollie.

Hope you enjoyed giving yourself a couple of points for that dull question.How long did it take you to award yourself 9 points?Fantastic.
Thanks for the microscopic effort you have made to read the original question and discuss it sensibly.

Your mummy must be so proud.

Feel free to thumb this comment down too.

I can assure you nobody cares.

This is the real world. Not the council chambersYou seem to care a great deal. Far too much, in fact.
[quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?[/p][/quote]Self explanatory if you'd read the question fully Ollie. Hope you enjoyed giving yourself a couple of points for that dull question.[/p][/quote]How long did it take you to award yourself 9 points?[/p][/quote]Fantastic. Thanks for the microscopic effort you have made to read the original question and discuss it sensibly. Your mummy must be so proud. Feel free to thumb this comment down too. I can assure you nobody cares. This is the real world. Not the council chambers[/p][/quote]You seem to care a great deal. Far too much, in fact. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: -14

11:47am Thu 21 Aug 14

nato86 says...

Wow mummy talk grow up
Wow mummy talk grow up nato86
  • Score: 4

11:51am Thu 21 Aug 14

South Stand says...

Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.
Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless. South Stand
  • Score: 11

12:09pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

South Stand wrote:
Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.
Report it. I rarely agree with you but think differing views should be aired without their comment being manipulated which is what goes on.
There are 2 people who ruin this website. Both have numerous log ins and clone accounts.
Complaints have been raised but the more who do so will help clean the site up.
[quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.[/p][/quote]Report it. I rarely agree with you but think differing views should be aired without their comment being manipulated which is what goes on. There are 2 people who ruin this website. Both have numerous log ins and clone accounts. Complaints have been raised but the more who do so will help clean the site up. Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: 3

12:39pm Thu 21 Aug 14

trolley dolley says...

What are the health implications for the local people who have been subjected to toxic fumes whilst the fire service wrung its hands, the EA procrastinated and the council held meetings.

The local people should be told what they can expect from this in their future health.

Blaming each other and asking who is going to pay for the clean up is missing the point.

What about peoples HEALTH.
What are the health implications for the local people who have been subjected to toxic fumes whilst the fire service wrung its hands, the EA procrastinated and the council held meetings. The local people should be told what they can expect from this in their future health. Blaming each other and asking who is going to pay for the clean up is missing the point. What about peoples HEALTH. trolley dolley
  • Score: 10

1:08pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Alan Bast*rd wrote:
South Stand wrote:
Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.
Report it. I rarely agree with you but think differing views should be aired without their comment being manipulated which is what goes on.
There are 2 people who ruin this website. Both have numerous log ins and clone accounts.
Complaints have been raised but the more who do so will help clean the site up.
The really funny thing is that your pal thinks South Stand is me. It's that farcical on here with you two now.

At least South Stand has realised what you and your mate are up to.

It's all so painfully pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]Alan Bast*rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.[/p][/quote]Report it. I rarely agree with you but think differing views should be aired without their comment being manipulated which is what goes on. There are 2 people who ruin this website. Both have numerous log ins and clone accounts. Complaints have been raised but the more who do so will help clean the site up.[/p][/quote]The really funny thing is that your pal thinks South Stand is me. It's that farcical on here with you two now. At least South Stand has realised what you and your mate are up to. It's all so painfully pathetic. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: -16

1:32pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
Alan Bast*rd wrote:
South Stand wrote:
Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.
Report it. I rarely agree with you but think differing views should be aired without their comment being manipulated which is what goes on.
There are 2 people who ruin this website. Both have numerous log ins and clone accounts.
Complaints have been raised but the more who do so will help clean the site up.
The really funny thing is that your pal thinks South Stand is me. It's that farcical on here with you two now.

At least South Stand has realised what you and your mate are up to.

It's all so painfully pathetic.
He's not my mate and is a bad as you. Both of you won't be around much longer.
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Bast*rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.[/p][/quote]Report it. I rarely agree with you but think differing views should be aired without their comment being manipulated which is what goes on. There are 2 people who ruin this website. Both have numerous log ins and clone accounts. Complaints have been raised but the more who do so will help clean the site up.[/p][/quote]The really funny thing is that your pal thinks South Stand is me. It's that farcical on here with you two now. At least South Stand has realised what you and your mate are up to. It's all so painfully pathetic.[/p][/quote]He's not my mate and is a bad as you. Both of you won't be around much longer. Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: 4

2:23pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Wiltshirereader says...

Lee Averies..... too little too late, you should have stood up and got counted for this shambles WEEKS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Words are easy, best thing is action and we haven't seen much of that from you!
Lee Averies..... too little too late, you should have stood up and got counted for this shambles WEEKS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Words are easy, best thing is action and we haven't seen much of that from you! Wiltshirereader
  • Score: 12

3:51pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Cat_cat_cat says...

So why didn't the Adver ask Lee Averies how 2 of his companies have had major fires in the last year? Cos I don't think that's coincidence!!

Also, I wouldn't say it was unlucky that the fire started when the fire service were on strike. I'd say that was a well planned bit of timing by Mr Averies!
So why didn't the Adver ask Lee Averies how 2 of his companies have had major fires in the last year? Cos I don't think that's coincidence!! Also, I wouldn't say it was unlucky that the fire started when the fire service were on strike. I'd say that was a well planned bit of timing by Mr Averies! Cat_cat_cat
  • Score: 18

4:59pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
Alan Bast*rd wrote:
South Stand wrote:
Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.
Report it. I rarely agree with you but think differing views should be aired without their comment being manipulated which is what goes on.
There are 2 people who ruin this website. Both have numerous log ins and clone accounts.
Complaints have been raised but the more who do so will help clean the site up.
The really funny thing is that your pal thinks South Stand is me. It's that farcical on here with you two now.

At least South Stand has realised what you and your mate are up to.

It's all so painfully pathetic.
Yaaaawn,,,
Still on your mission to derail threads and muddy waters.
These comments are not as vile as your usual patter so there is some improvement.

As far as the PR announcement above is concerned the fact SBC is missing from it speaks volumes.
It doesnt state which journalist took the interview but there were either allot of questions not asked or not answered. I would be curious to know which.
SBC are responsible for checking that working processes are followed and that regular audits are carried our and any aspects failing audits are corrected in an agreed time frame. This really is basic business process that I am sure you must of covered at some stage in your capacity as a councilor.
I notice you are already back at attempting to manipulate this thread....By past form you will be back cloning, lying and basically being a nasty piece of work before long.
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Bast*rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: Right, that's it from me. Too many people manipulating this forum, which makes it meaningless.[/p][/quote]Report it. I rarely agree with you but think differing views should be aired without their comment being manipulated which is what goes on. There are 2 people who ruin this website. Both have numerous log ins and clone accounts. Complaints have been raised but the more who do so will help clean the site up.[/p][/quote]The really funny thing is that your pal thinks South Stand is me. It's that farcical on here with you two now. At least South Stand has realised what you and your mate are up to. It's all so painfully pathetic.[/p][/quote]Yaaaawn,,, Still on your mission to derail threads and muddy waters. These comments are not as vile as your usual patter so there is some improvement. As far as the PR announcement above is concerned the fact SBC is missing from it speaks volumes. It doesnt state which journalist took the interview but there were either allot of questions not asked or not answered. I would be curious to know which. SBC are responsible for checking that working processes are followed and that regular audits are carried our and any aspects failing audits are corrected in an agreed time frame. This really is basic business process that I am sure you must of covered at some stage in your capacity as a councilor. I notice you are already back at attempting to manipulate this thread....By past form you will be back cloning, lying and basically being a nasty piece of work before long. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 7

5:02pm Thu 21 Aug 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

who owns or has shares in the following:
rainers yard at w\bassett
swindon skips at cheney manor
averies at marshgate.........

as you know all three caught fire, oh dear......
who owns or has shares in the following: rainers yard at w\bassett swindon skips at cheney manor averies at marshgate......... as you know all three caught fire, oh dear...... FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: 10

5:16pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?Sandor Clegane What do you hope to achieve through your actions and comments on here?
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?[/p][/quote]Sandor Clegane What do you hope to achieve through your actions and comments on here? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 0

5:25pm Thu 21 Aug 14

SAM2WIN says...

LocalBob80 wrote:
Too many contradictions in that "apology" to make it believeable.
Also no mention of Swindon Clownschool, why pile was allowed to accumulate, etc
Swindon Clownschool are a waste of space , but policing Averys is down to the Environment Agency .
Even Swindon Clownschool ( SCS ) recycling centre at Waterside is under EA supervision .
[quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Too many contradictions in that "apology" to make it believeable. Also no mention of Swindon Clownschool, why pile was allowed to accumulate, etc[/p][/quote]Swindon Clownschool are a waste of space , but policing Averys is down to the Environment Agency . Even Swindon Clownschool ( SCS ) recycling centre at Waterside is under EA supervision . SAM2WIN
  • Score: 4

5:46pm Thu 21 Aug 14

princesshelen68 says...

As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !!
As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !! princesshelen68
  • Score: 16

6:26pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Wiltshirereader says...

princesshelen68 wrote:
As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !!
I take my hat off to you for publicly stating your case from an ex-employee's point of view - well done you!

Let's hope a proper formal enquiry will take place and information such as this will be aired. The situation has been bad enough but lives could have been put at risk, this absolutely should NEVER happen again!
[quote][p][bold]princesshelen68[/bold] wrote: As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !![/p][/quote]I take my hat off to you for publicly stating your case from an ex-employee's point of view - well done you! Let's hope a proper formal enquiry will take place and information such as this will be aired. The situation has been bad enough but lives could have been put at risk, this absolutely should NEVER happen again! Wiltshirereader
  • Score: 11

6:34pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

princesshelen68 wrote:
As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !!
Lets hope the Adver contact you for a follow up story would be nice to see another side of the issue.
[quote][p][bold]princesshelen68[/bold] wrote: As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !![/p][/quote]Lets hope the Adver contact you for a follow up story would be nice to see another side of the issue. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 10

6:44pm Thu 21 Aug 14

nato86 says...

I to am an ex employee who was threatened to be beat up by him untill i gave him a taste of his own medicine
I to am an ex employee who was threatened to be beat up by him untill i gave him a taste of his own medicine nato86
  • Score: 1

7:42pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Iinandout says...

nato86 wrote:
I to am an ex employee who was threatened to be beat up by him untill i gave him a taste of his own medicine
really
[quote][p][bold]nato86[/bold] wrote: I to am an ex employee who was threatened to be beat up by him untill i gave him a taste of his own medicine[/p][/quote]really Iinandout
  • Score: 4

8:35pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Naughty Nick says...

princesshelen68 wrote:
As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !!
And I thought you liked him Helen !
[quote][p][bold]princesshelen68[/bold] wrote: As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !![/p][/quote]And I thought you liked him Helen ! Naughty Nick
  • Score: 6

8:51pm Thu 21 Aug 14

nato86 says...

Linandout yes really , i re read what i had wrote and yeah it sounds bad , he didn't even take time to know the names of his staff , threatened me with violence,came out of the front gate and proceeded to hurl abuse at me, yes i sank to his level and traded insults but never went as low as threatening violance to him the mans a joke and people like him make Swindon a rubbish place to live no pun , linandout i have proof if you want to see i worked for him ,now take your witty one line comments and do one , really 😊
Linandout yes really , i re read what i had wrote and yeah it sounds bad , he didn't even take time to know the names of his staff , threatened me with violence,came out of the front gate and proceeded to hurl abuse at me, yes i sank to his level and traded insults but never went as low as threatening violance to him the mans a joke and people like him make Swindon a rubbish place to live no pun , linandout i have proof if you want to see i worked for him ,now take your witty one line comments and do one , really 😊 nato86
  • Score: 0

8:57pm Thu 21 Aug 14

princesshelen68 says...

Naughty Nick wrote:
princesshelen68 wrote:
As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !!
And I thought you liked him Helen !
About as much as you did Nick !! ..You still working for him ?? Shame he didn't have the manners to talk to other employees....
[quote][p][bold]Naughty Nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]princesshelen68[/bold] wrote: As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !![/p][/quote]And I thought you liked him Helen ![/p][/quote]About as much as you did Nick !! ..You still working for him ?? Shame he didn't have the manners to talk to other employees.... princesshelen68
  • Score: -1

9:03pm Thu 21 Aug 14

LocalBob80 says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?Sandor Clegane What do you hope to achieve through your actions and comments on here?We can only assume that the mad councillor is trying to get banned AGAIN as he did with his ChannelX login.
..
I'm guessing that the only reason the Sandor Clegane anagram is still running is because he "cloned" it during his previous nonsense.

These threads are at least now monitored from time to time, so we won't have to put up with this much longer .
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Too many contradictions in that "apologyWhat have the Council got to do with it, Ollie?[/p][/quote]Sandor Clegane What do you hope to achieve through your actions and comments on here?[/p][/quote]We can only assume that the mad councillor is trying to get banned AGAIN as he did with his ChannelX login. .. I'm guessing that the only reason the Sandor Clegane anagram is still running is because he "cloned" it during his previous nonsense. These threads are at least now monitored from time to time, so we won't have to put up with this much longer . LocalBob80
  • Score: 2

9:06pm Thu 21 Aug 14

LocalBob80 says...

Back on topic.
Well done to all the individuals who are ex-employees and have spoken out on here.
I hope the Adver contact you for a full story.
More importantly, I hope you all stay in contact with each other.
I hope you have also found more pleasant employment
Back on topic. Well done to all the individuals who are ex-employees and have spoken out on here. I hope the Adver contact you for a full story. More importantly, I hope you all stay in contact with each other. I hope you have also found more pleasant employment LocalBob80
  • Score: 1

9:13pm Thu 21 Aug 14

nato86 says...

I hope he is reading under an alias
I hope he is reading under an alias nato86
  • Score: 1

10:00pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Orwell1984 says...

Wiltshirereader wrote:
princesshelen68 wrote:
As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !!
I take my hat off to you for publicly stating your case from an ex-employee's point of view - well done you!

Let's hope a proper formal enquiry will take place and information such as this will be aired. The situation has been bad enough but lives could have been put at risk, this absolutely should NEVER happen again!
Well said Princess and hope the truth comes out. If pay was cash in hand, were/are illegal immigrants also casually employed at this site?
[quote][p][bold]Wiltshirereader[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]princesshelen68[/bold] wrote: As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !![/p][/quote]I take my hat off to you for publicly stating your case from an ex-employee's point of view - well done you! Let's hope a proper formal enquiry will take place and information such as this will be aired. The situation has been bad enough but lives could have been put at risk, this absolutely should NEVER happen again![/p][/quote]Well said Princess and hope the truth comes out. If pay was cash in hand, were/are illegal immigrants also casually employed at this site? Orwell1984
  • Score: 3

10:49pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Orwell1984 says...

nato86 wrote:
Lee averies is a joke , he thinks hes a gangster ,ask his name and everyone has a story about him ,
he was a joke to work for
his business is an absolute joke
the workers tea cabin is a joke utter filth,
the whole outfit is a joke
is it just unlucky that the fire started when fire fighters were striking
how can someone who already set fire to one of his sites be aloud to run another site ......
averies should be thrown in jail and orders to pay compensation. To everyone in Swindon use this waist of flesh as an example
he should receive a jail sentence and never run a business again
Yes, it seems incredible that that Averies is deemed a fit and proper person to run any business, let alone a supposedly regulated business such as the Marshgate site. His track record well before this incident was appalling at other sites and the convictions are evidence of this. This latest fire in its timing and severity can only lead to one conclusion, ie that Averies had something to gain/nothing to lose by it.
[quote][p][bold]nato86[/bold] wrote: Lee averies is a joke , he thinks hes a gangster ,ask his name and everyone has a story about him , he was a joke to work for his business is an absolute joke the workers tea cabin is a joke utter filth, the whole outfit is a joke is it just unlucky that the fire started when fire fighters were striking how can someone who already set fire to one of his sites be aloud to run another site ...... averies should be thrown in jail and orders to pay compensation. To everyone in Swindon use this waist of flesh as an example he should receive a jail sentence and never run a business again[/p][/quote]Yes, it seems incredible that that Averies is deemed a fit and proper person to run any business, let alone a supposedly regulated business such as the Marshgate site. His track record well before this incident was appalling at other sites and the convictions are evidence of this. This latest fire in its timing and severity can only lead to one conclusion, ie that Averies had something to gain/nothing to lose by it. Orwell1984
  • Score: 6

6:48am Fri 22 Aug 14

Blind Fury says...

Iinandout wrote:
Blind Fury wrote:
Not a rogue? Responsible regulated company?.....Averies are licensed for 10,000 tonnes, but actually stored 16,000+ tonnes of unrecycled waste, including obvious nasties that account for the huge level of pollutants in the atmosphere! These places need to shut down and get relocated far out of town, no sympathy Lee, you obviously have no regard for local people and businesses.
I think you will find there license allows them to carry more than 10,000 tonnes on that site because i would have thought the EA would have shut them down if that was the case.
No it doesn't, I think 'you'll' find!
[quote][p][bold]Iinandout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blind Fury[/bold] wrote: Not a rogue? Responsible regulated company?.....Averies are licensed for 10,000 tonnes, but actually stored 16,000+ tonnes of unrecycled waste, including obvious nasties that account for the huge level of pollutants in the atmosphere! These places need to shut down and get relocated far out of town, no sympathy Lee, you obviously have no regard for local people and businesses.[/p][/quote]I think you will find there license allows them to carry more than 10,000 tonnes on that site because i would have thought the EA would have shut them down if that was the case.[/p][/quote]No it doesn't, I think 'you'll' find! Blind Fury
  • Score: 3

8:11am Fri 22 Aug 14

nato86 says...

Linabdout is lee
Linabdout is lee nato86
  • Score: 0

8:21am Fri 22 Aug 14

Iinandout says...

nato86 wrote:
Linabdout is lee
You are funny!
[quote][p][bold]nato86[/bold] wrote: Linabdout is lee[/p][/quote]You are funny! Iinandout
  • Score: 0

9:17am Fri 22 Aug 14

nato86 says...

You are not
You are not nato86
  • Score: 0

11:26am Fri 22 Aug 14

Melgee says...

When Mr. Averies coughs up his £70,000 fine from last year then I will at least start to believe him..........but until then his reputation in Swindon goes before him.
When Mr. Averies coughs up his £70,000 fine from last year then I will at least start to believe him..........but until then his reputation in Swindon goes before him. Melgee
  • Score: 3

11:40am Fri 22 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

Have they put the fire out yet?
Have they put the fire out yet? Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: -1

12:29pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

I am no legal expert but to do whats right should be a simple process and the other person suffering any further would be Averies and Averies shareholders?

Clean up / destroy / recycle waste
fire to be suppressed as best possible and contained
sites sanitized as to be 100% clean and signed off as safe by members of the council.
Removal of any all licences held by Mr Averies and partners to ensure he / they can never again legally work in any kind of similar role in any like business.
Lastly the sites sold off to recover costs and to go someway to making things right for local businesses and residents.

When he does start up again it will be interesting to see who and where licences were approved by.
I am no legal expert but to do whats right should be a simple process and the other person suffering any further would be Averies and Averies shareholders? Clean up / destroy / recycle waste fire to be suppressed as best possible and contained sites sanitized as to be 100% clean and signed off as safe by members of the council. Removal of any all licences held by Mr Averies and partners to ensure he / they can never again legally work in any kind of similar role in any like business. Lastly the sites sold off to recover costs and to go someway to making things right for local businesses and residents. When he does start up again it will be interesting to see who and where licences were approved by. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Sat 23 Aug 14

trolley dolley says...

What about the health issues for local people.
What about the health issues for local people. trolley dolley
  • Score: 4

11:38pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Orwell1984 says...

trolley dolley wrote:
What about the health issues for local people.
Yes, has any of the smoke or fumes from the atmospheric pollution been analysed for harmful effects? From what the ex employees are hinting at, toxic and hazardous waste may have entered the site illegally and been buried or hidden from inspectors. I hope that the authorities are not withholding facts about any potential public health issues caused by toxic fumes!
[quote][p][bold]trolley dolley[/bold] wrote: What about the health issues for local people.[/p][/quote]Yes, has any of the smoke or fumes from the atmospheric pollution been analysed for harmful effects? From what the ex employees are hinting at, toxic and hazardous waste may have entered the site illegally and been buried or hidden from inspectors. I hope that the authorities are not withholding facts about any potential public health issues caused by toxic fumes! Orwell1984
  • Score: 4

1:43am Sun 24 Aug 14

Orwell1984 says...

umpcah wrote:
FLOGGITLAD wrote:
Can the boss, tell us or just confirm, that his firm will pick up the bills for this fiasco at the end of the day and not a penny will be passed on to the tax payer, or am I dreaming....
Dream on lad !
Even if Averies did confirm it, would anybody believe the word of a convicted operator with his abysmal track record of environmental, health and safety compliance?
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FLOGGITLAD[/bold] wrote: Can the boss, tell us or just confirm, that his firm will pick up the bills for this fiasco at the end of the day and not a penny will be passed on to the tax payer, or am I dreaming....[/p][/quote]Dream on lad ![/p][/quote]Even if Averies did confirm it, would anybody believe the word of a convicted operator with his abysmal track record of environmental, health and safety compliance? Orwell1984
  • Score: 3

7:32pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Hammer5 says...

trolley dolley wrote:
What about the health issues for local people.
Health issues for local people get a grip!!!
If they are overweight don't exercise and smoke they have serious health issues and I can assure you it wont be the smoke from that fire that kills them though it might be handy because it would save the tax payer a fortune!
[quote][p][bold]trolley dolley[/bold] wrote: What about the health issues for local people.[/p][/quote]Health issues for local people get a grip!!! If they are overweight don't exercise and smoke they have serious health issues and I can assure you it wont be the smoke from that fire that kills them though it might be handy because it would save the tax payer a fortune! Hammer5
  • Score: 1

10:46pm Wed 10 Sep 14

Waster1 says...

princesshelen68 wrote:
As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !!
My ex has previously worked for averies and I can confirm he is a beast to work for. Lack of ppe, expectations to stand below a tipper lorry whilst it emptied it's load and stamp down on the waste, unsafe equipment to use, unlicensed disposal, the list could go on forever. Needless to say I don't believe a word of what he says; he's selfish, arrogant and a bully.
Years of trading outside of the law, the fault of the EA for not clamping down on him but also SBC for not enforcing court orders. As he's been declared bankrupt, by law he shouldn't be a director of another company yet somehow he is!!
Sadly he's been allowed to get away with it for so long, wouldn't be surprised if he's got friends in places covering for him, that I don't believe he'll be brought to justice.
Best way to hurt him is to boycott using his businesses - the reason the skips are so cheap is because he doesn't deal with the waste in the correct manner. Why doesn't he provide separate plasterboard skips for plasterboard waste? His staff don't "sort" it at site, it's been burning for the past 6 weeks! A product that's not permitted to go to landfill because of the hazardous materials it contains!
As for a previous commenter blaming people's lifestyle for their health issues, if he/she has an lung issue in a few years time, will that be due to lifestyle or the fumes from this fire?!
[quote][p][bold]princesshelen68[/bold] wrote: As an ex-employee of Mr Lee Averies at Marshgate site I can confirm that he operates his businesses with no regard for anyone or anything. Due to the fire at Marshgate people lost their jobs....he has not communicated with them and treated them like he treats everyone with disdain..He still owns one more waste business called Calne Aggregates ...is he still going to be allowed to operate under this name so no one knows it is his business? Mr Averies regularly employed staff for cash in hand and did not provide suitable PPE clothiing, rest facilities . Staff were encouraged not to follow any Health & Safety Rules , there are several outstanding personal injury claims made against Averies by ex-employees due to Averies not following ANY health & safety rules. We were encouraged and it was expected that we hid certain activities from the EA when they were present on any of the 3 Averies sites ..failure to do this would result in being verbally abused by Mr Lee Averies and ultimately sacked !![/p][/quote]My ex has previously worked for averies and I can confirm he is a beast to work for. Lack of ppe, expectations to stand below a tipper lorry whilst it emptied it's load and stamp down on the waste, unsafe equipment to use, unlicensed disposal, the list could go on forever. Needless to say I don't believe a word of what he says; he's selfish, arrogant and a bully. Years of trading outside of the law, the fault of the EA for not clamping down on him but also SBC for not enforcing court orders. As he's been declared bankrupt, by law he shouldn't be a director of another company yet somehow he is!! Sadly he's been allowed to get away with it for so long, wouldn't be surprised if he's got friends in places covering for him, that I don't believe he'll be brought to justice. Best way to hurt him is to boycott using his businesses - the reason the skips are so cheap is because he doesn't deal with the waste in the correct manner. Why doesn't he provide separate plasterboard skips for plasterboard waste? His staff don't "sort" it at site, it's been burning for the past 6 weeks! A product that's not permitted to go to landfill because of the hazardous materials it contains! As for a previous commenter blaming people's lifestyle for their health issues, if he/she has an lung issue in a few years time, will that be due to lifestyle or the fumes from this fire?! Waster1
  • Score: -1

9:42pm Thu 11 Sep 14

TombstoneJim says...

I worked for Averies at one point too. Lee is a complete Ar*eho*e! He was involved with a company in Shepton Mallet called Southwood waste in evercreech. Guess what? That had a mysterious machinery fire too! He was also prosecuted for mishandling asbestos, there was a proper asbestos deep landfill there. Am I the only person who finds it just a bit more than a coincidence that the Swindon Skips site, Southwood waste and now the Greenbridge site have all had fires? In my time working for him lots of staff came and went. He is by far one of the worst bosses I have ever worked for. He has no care for his workers or legality. The Trucks are all wreckage which are bodged up to keep them on the road by unskilled fitters, The plant in the yards receives the same treatment. No way does the amount of waste he makes out get recycled. Loads of it goes to landfill. The Man is a liar, I am not even sure he is a Director anymore. I heard his brother Mark put his name to everything when he went bust last time. Hopefully this is the final nail in the coffin for Averies, somehow I doubt they will stick anything to Teflon Lee unfortunately.
I worked for Averies at one point too. Lee is a complete Ar*eho*e! He was involved with a company in Shepton Mallet called Southwood waste in evercreech. Guess what? That had a mysterious machinery fire too! He was also prosecuted for mishandling asbestos, there was a proper asbestos deep landfill there. Am I the only person who finds it just a bit more than a coincidence that the Swindon Skips site, Southwood waste and now the Greenbridge site have all had fires? In my time working for him lots of staff came and went. He is by far one of the worst bosses I have ever worked for. He has no care for his workers or legality. The Trucks are all wreckage which are bodged up to keep them on the road by unskilled fitters, The plant in the yards receives the same treatment. No way does the amount of waste he makes out get recycled. Loads of it goes to landfill. The Man is a liar, I am not even sure he is a Director anymore. I heard his brother Mark put his name to everything when he went bust last time. Hopefully this is the final nail in the coffin for Averies, somehow I doubt they will stick anything to Teflon Lee unfortunately. TombstoneJim
  • Score: -3

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