Lights at junctions may be removed

SWINDON Council is considering completely removing traffic lights from four junctions in the town in a bid to improve traffic flow.

Following a review of all 76 traffic-signal controlled junctions, highways consultant Halcrow has recommended that lights should be removed at the intersections of Queens Drive and Frobisher Drive, Cricklade Road and Chapel Street, as well as Polaris Way bus gate and Wroughton park and ride entrance.

The consultant also recommended the Coate Roundabout and the junction of Station Road and Whitehouse Road as candidates, although Swindon Council is not proposing to take these forward at the moment as they are busier junctions.

The proposal comes as the cabinet continues a trial of part-time traffic lights at Mannington Roundabout to determine whether the scheme has increased road accidents.

Coun Keith Williams , the cabinet member for leisure and strategic transport, said: “You have got certain areas where lights were put in and we’ve never reached the situation where the traffic, even at peak periods, requires the operation of lights.

“There’s a little bit more care and attention required on the part of motorists when you are taking lights away from junctions, but what you will find is the traffic will flow at a more natural rate rather than being artificially impeded.

“Things like Polaris Way, you aren’t talking a great deal of effort to do that, and with the Wroughton park and ride, you aren’t talking about a lot of effort, so you would have thought by this time of next year, that would have been implemented, if not sooner.”

As part of the review, Halcrow is also recommending there could be potential improvements at 11 other junctions, including part-time signals at Meads Roundabout, on the Great Western Way.

Coun Williams said drivers would be given sufficient notice of any changes, which would be subsequently reviewed before being made permanent, but he was confident they would get used to them after a while.

He said: “We don’t want to jump in and make a lot of changes at once because traffic throughout Swindon is fragile.

“If you go making wholesale changes across the range of junctions, it makes it hard to identify the knock-on effects from theses changes, which is why Manning-ton has been subject to a 12-month review afterwards.”

Coun Jim Grant, the Labour group leader, said: “The purpose of traffic lights is to ensure traffic flow and driver and pedestrian safety.

“I have my doubts whether you could turn off a set of traffic lights permanently and safely, but I’m happy with them to do the experiments.”

to see if it’s possible.”

Comments(9)

Robh says...
9:46am Sat 29 Sep 12

At last we see some sense in traffic management. The main routes in and out of town should be given priority it is the cross traffic and rat run merchants who slow the whole thing down.

The next junction to look at should be Moonrakers to give priority to the Cricklade Road traffic in and out of town.

Oik1 says...
12:06pm Sat 29 Sep 12

What's this, common sense creeping into the ridiculous number of traffic lights on roundabouts and the like on the towns roads, what ever next? The sooner Coate Water roundabout has it's needless lights removed the better traffic will flow around it.

faatmaan says...
3:18pm Sat 29 Sep 12

why do we need to employ costly consultants, when the general public willingly offer these solutions at no expense week upon week.

eucalyptus says...
12:50pm Sun 30 Sep 12

faatmaan wrote:
why do we need to employ costly consultants, when the general public willingly offer these solutions at no expense week upon week.
No, the general public only offer opinions. Solutions require more in-depth testing using well-established computer modelling programs - these test proposed changes to junctions to assess what the likely impact on traffic flows will be.

jerry59 says...
12:51pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Swindon should be held up as a example to other towns across the UK and Europe of how a town can become when it is run by inept councillors . A failed town that got to big for it's boots.
Leaders of other big towns should come here and learn what will happen to their town if it's run by idiots.
Filthy, dirty, squalid. No culture. Crime ridden. A magnet for every unskilled loser. A pathetic road system that looks like it was designed by a small child. Once voted the worst Town in Europe, STILL IS!
My friend came over from Germany and said, "I heard your town was not good, but you have to see it to believe it. It's a giant DUMP". I think that's the first time I was actually embarrassed about living here and convinced my that I should leave next year.

jerry59 says...
1:32pm Sun 30 Sep 12

On the lighter side. Germans are not usually known for their humourous side, but regarding Swindon, my friend did said, "And you achieved this without BOMBING?". lol

Davey Gravey says...
3:55pm Sun 30 Sep 12

jerry59 wrote:
Swindon should be held up as a example to other towns across the UK and Europe of how a town can become when it is run by inept councillors . A failed town that got to big for it's boots.
Leaders of other big towns should come here and learn what will happen to their town if it's run by idiots.
Filthy, dirty, squalid. No culture. Crime ridden. A magnet for every unskilled loser. A pathetic road system that looks like it was designed by a small child. Once voted the worst Town in Europe, STILL IS!
My friend came over from Germany and said, "I heard your town was not good, but you have to see it to believe it. It's a giant DUMP". I think that's the first time I was actually embarrassed about living here and convinced my that I should leave next year.
There are plenty of worse towns and cities than swindon. The council are fools but there are alot worse places to live.

Wideangle852 says...
7:22am Mon 1 Oct 12

A simple solution to the Bruce Street roundabout mess we see every day is removal of the 1st pedestrian lights on the Rodbourne Road heading towards Cheney Manor. This activates instantly everytime a cyclist rides up. At 5.30pm thats every minute . . and low and behold all the traffic grinds to a halt queing up the Great Western way for over 3/4 of a mile . . build a pedestrain/cyclcist bridge! Not add more lights!

I 2 Could B says...
9:31am Mon 1 Oct 12

The worrying thing about this is that, presumably, consultants were initially paid to tell the council certain junctions needs lights and not consultants are saying to the council those junctions don't need lights.

Having said that, removing traffic lights - wherever possible - is a step in the right direction. It is obvious to any regular driver that the vast majority of traffic lights actually cause congestion rather than mitigate it. Also, most traffic lights are situated in such a way as to actively present danger to the pedestrians using them and the drivers who have to navigate them.

This is done in the name of 'road safety'... go figure.

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