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Artist tells of giant town centre dream
Artist Gordon Dickinson with his prototype White Horse. He would like to see a giant version of it dominating the town centre
Artist Gordon Dickinson with his prototype White Horse. He would like to see a giant version of it dominating the town centre

A LOCAL artist has come up with a solution to the canal debate - build a giant white horse over Swindon instead.

But this is no joke for Gordon Dickinson, of Pavenhill, Purton, who believes that his sculpture of the Uffington White Horse could offer a cheap alternative and put Swindon on the map.

He said: "I'm not against the canal, but I want to see something in my lifetime.

"We want to do something that no one has seen before, something completely unique.

"This will have the wow factor for certain and I would be interested to see what the public think."

The prototype Gordon displayed yesterday is made up of 13 steel pieces that, when looked at from the right angle, make up the image of the famous white horse near The Ridgeway.

Gordon's plan for the town would be to build a giant version that would sit on poles so that it was higher than the David Murray John tower, which is 270ft tall, in the town centre.

He said: "Everybody loves the White Horse, but you cannot really see it from any angle even if you go right up there.

"With the sculpture you'd see a lot of poles but as you approach it would become a horse."

"As you walk around the thing it looks like the pieces are moving into place like the Channel Four adverts."

The steel pieces would be covered with luminous paint to absorb sunlight during the day then glow and fade out during the night.

"As you are driving down the motorway at night you would see this great horse leaping over the town," he said.

He has anticipated his idea will be as controversial as the canal, but argues the Angel Of The North statue in Gateshead was greeted with scepticism, but is now a major attraction.

"I tend to say what I think," he said.

"My thoughts don't make everybody happy all the time, but we've all got our opinions and stuff and I put mine out there through my art."

With the canal project predicted to cost more than £52m, Gordon believes that his less costly idea would be more original and could rival Antony Gormely's Angel Of The North, which cost about £1m.

The artist's original 5ft-high sculpture was commissioned by Rowde CE Primary School, in Devizes, but is the product of three years' work and research in the artist's spare time.

Gordon argues his idea would be in line with a growing cultural emphasis in Swindon, but also believes whatever does eventually go ahead must have public support.

He has put a video on the YouTube website entitled horse idea under the username gorgeous gordon to show people just what the structure is like.

He added: "All artists want to leave a mark - they want to be remembered for something good. That would be my dream and it's not a joke one either."

To find out more about Gordon's company visit www.noaddedsugar.org and to see more of Gordon's artwork go to www.gordondickinson.co.uk.

1:14pm Sunday 27th April 2008

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Posted by: Captain Sensible, Near Swindon on 2:07pm Sun 27 Apr 08
I would have thought a giant sculpture of a toilet would be more appropriate.
Posted by: Terence, Swindon on 3:18pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Isn't April Fools' Day only on the 1st of the month? I don't think this suggestion requires much thought before throwing it straight out the window. Frankly it sounds terrible, I really can't think of anything good to say about the idea (luminous paint indeed!).
Posted by: H, Up the Hill on 3:42pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Must be having a laugh. I would imagine the load bearing piling and concrete would require much of Swindon to be knocked down! What a buffoon but a good idea for self marketing.
Posted by: Ankh, Morpork on 3:47pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Sounds awful, I'm not fan of the canal either but don't think a giant luminous horse is a good alternative. A decent music venue I say.
Posted by: Captain T, Swindon on 3:49pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Taller than the DMJ tower? Ummmmm, how can I put this Gordon?

NO!
Posted by: WTF?, Swindon on 5:49pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Oh yeah. A large white horse in the area.

That's not been done before has it.

Nutter.
Posted by: Sara, Oxfordshire on 6:03pm Sun 27 Apr 08
What an original idea - would set the town apart completely from anywhere else. Not sure about the theme of the horse (as it isn't really associated with the town) but the notion of making Swindon utterly unique in this fashion is a very bold and exciting idea. Clearly it will be very unpopular then.
Posted by: Terence, Swindon on 7:29pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Sara, the idea will be unpopular not because it is unique but because it is ridiculous. For instance just think if you had to look at such a monstrosity from the 'wrong' angle (encompassing perhaps 90% of viewpoints in a circumference) what you would see is a hideous tangled mess glowing in the dark. Who wants that view from their bedroom window?
Posted by: Sara, Oxfordshire on 7:50pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Terence, that is a good point so perhaps a more geometric design computer modelled to offer beauty from all 360 degrees might be a better option! At least Swindon would be doing something different from all those other places with muddy streams running through them!
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 9:24pm Sun 27 Apr 08
I think perhaps a 'white elephant' would be more appropriate, Swindon sadly is rapidly being viewed as that from 'outside'.
Posted by: neilswindonuk, Swindon on 9:57pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Sculpture looks nice, but when I read further on that it would be mounted onto poles and propped into the sky, I thought 'how ridiculous'. What is wrong with your 5ft version?
Swindon needs a decent landmark, that does not consist of either an office building, a murky polluted canal or a communal area for chavs.
Swindon is a business town, not a village. It should have a modern, futuristic centre piece. Cheltenham has the wishing clock. Southampton has the Spinnaker tower and what do we have, the Brunel statue!! We need something that celebrates Swindon's economy, and sets it apart from every other dull British town. Something different but not embarrassing. Why can't an architect be employed to produce something different? Perhaps something that lights up spectacularly at night. Let's face it, all we are famous for is the 'Magic Roundabout'.
Posted by: neilswindonuk, Swindon on 9:59pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Oh and get rid of the ugly Jubilee Clock.
Posted by: Jason on 10:21pm Sun 27 Apr 08
A more appropriate feature might be just the back end of the horse, with videos of our council leaders, and politicians speaking out of it
Posted by: gordon, purton on 10:59pm Sun 27 Apr 08
gosh, it's really hard living as an artist in swindon.
7ft ....... don't believe everything you read in the papers.
architects have been employed.
my horse does light up spectacularly at night.
if moaning was an olympic sport, the british team would be made up mainly of swindon people, i could be the captain, or maybe neil, or terrence.
this is not a crackpot scheme for self publicity. i have worked on and researched this idea for three years. maybe the town placement isn't a popular idea, then place it in the hills running beside the M4.
We need to make a unique monumental contemporary statement, as gateshead did, with the Angel.
if wishing for a more positive cultural identity for my home town makes me a nutter, then I'm a nutter.
If you don't wish to spend time to, at least, think about it and throw it out the window, then on your heads be it.
sorry about the hair in the photo ... the wind must have caught it and made me look like a young garry glitter.
Posted by: Sara, Oxfordshire on 11:03pm Sun 27 Apr 08
I think anything with a grand unique vision deserves consideration, something like the Grande Arche at La Defense Paris. It would make people think of Swindon in a very different light than they currently do.
Posted by: Jason on 11:10pm Sun 27 Apr 08
How about big flasing signs, sayin "more flats, more flats" and a big image of a cement mixer? that would pretty much sum up the imagination of Swindon.
I would like a canal to return to Swindon, but not on it's proposed route. A horse is somewhat more realistic, but I think my original suggestion, of just the rear end, with videos, would be more appropriate for the current manner in which the town is "developing"
Posted by: neilswindonuk, Swindon on 11:45pm Sun 27 Apr 08
gordon wrote:
gosh, it's really hard living as an artist in swindon.
7ft ....... don't believe everything you read in the papers.
architects have been employed.
my horse does light up spectacularly at night.
if moaning was an olympic sport, the british team would be made up mainly of swindon people, i could be the captain, or maybe neil, or terrence.
this is not a crackpot scheme for self publicity. i have worked on and researched this idea for three years. maybe the town placement isn't a popular idea, then place it in the hills running beside the M4.
We need to make a unique monumental contemporary statement, as gateshead did, with the Angel.
if wishing for a more positive cultural identity for my home town makes me a nutter, then I'm a nutter.
If you don't wish to spend time to, at least, think about it and throw it out the window, then on your heads be it.
sorry about the hair in the photo ... the wind must have caught it and made me look like a young garry glitter.
The idea to have it on hills beside the M4 does sound good. I think your work is great, and should be implemented. However the placement of it needs careful consideration. Good luck with it.
I agree with you that we do need a 'unique monumental contemporary statement' but perhaps we need more than your White Horse to encapsulate Swindon as an entity and define what the town is about? We are a modern, thriving town with low unemployment and excellent companies based here. We need some more exciting things desperately, like the Wharf Green development (Giant screen and attractive trees, lights etc). Something people can gawp at and actually take photographs of.
Posted by: gordon, purton on 11:48pm Sun 27 Apr 08
now your thinking!
i would like to thank those of you who could understand the concept and offer positive constructive criticism.
Posted by: swindon patriot, swindon on 12:18am Mon 28 Apr 08
Three cheers for Gordon. At last a forward thinking Swindon man has gotten off his backside and suggested not only a constructive idea, but followed through with a design prototype. Shame on all of you negative so and so's, who spout out your opinions without even an inkling of an idea of your own to support an intelligent debate. If there were more people like Gordon in this town, Swindon would have far more respect!!
Posted by: gordon, purton on 12:29am Mon 28 Apr 08
Blimey!
Posted by: fairygodmouse, Australia on 12:41am Mon 28 Apr 08
Four Cheers for Gordon!
A 270ft sculpture of his hair might be good too.
Posted by: gordon, purton on 1:02am Mon 28 Apr 08
Has anyone watched the film yet?
It will give you a clearer understanding of the idea.
Go on to you tube and search horse idea.

good morning trev.





Posted by: Tony Hillier, Old Walcot on 8:53am Mon 28 Apr 08
on the hoof

steeped in past success
white horse strides towards its future
as Swindon does the same

Uffington seen from Murray John
Wind Turbines seen near Faringdon
art now at the heart of Swindon

firm with its economic engine
Civic and Mini drive the town
while round the next bend, reaching daring heights

dreamlike strides white horse
white horse of Mannington
at the heart of the Swindon Gymkhana

Tony Hillier, jockeying for position !
Posted by: Al Smith, Swindon, UK on 9:16am Mon 28 Apr 08
Well seeing as the poll asks what would be the better landmark the only answer is the crazy white horse idea. A landmark means something people think of when you mention a place (like the roman baths in Bath or the stadium in Cardiff) not a bit of water.
Posted by: Tobz on 9:16am Mon 28 Apr 08
Big Up El Gordo! Being an artist in Swindon is rather akin to trying to sell Darwin in the bible-belt, but keep trying...

I've an idea for a massive art installation in swindon: Why not place a massive 35 square meter television in the heart of a run down area next to a fast food outlet and within stumbling / bottle throwing distance of the main location of a dozen lager-pubs? Surround the area with cctv, and we can sell the entertaining activities of our finest nocturnal ambassadors to Channel 5! Not only will this intsallation provide a powerful statement on the aspirations, imagination and interests of our population, but the revenue from the footage will earn valuable income for the town! We could even provide them with a water feature to play in!!!
Posted by: Lanky, Swindon on 9:24am Mon 28 Apr 08
I think the point is being slightly missed – it all falls into place as soon as you hit the perfect angle. Perhaps some of the people who perceive themselves to be the upper-middle-lower class types should turn off their radios, put down their copies of the FT, send Jeeves home for the evening and watch Channel 4 occasionally (as mentioned in the article) and they may see that the components are supposed to look random until you hit the optimum viewing position.

I personally feel it is a great idea, and would very much enjoy driving down the motorway into Swindon waiting to get that split second view of the completed gee gee. And instead of the negative views above of the “monstrosity” of a wrong view outside your bedroom window…….what if you had the perfect view of it from your bedroom window?!
Posted by: steve-o, Swindon on 10:10am Mon 28 Apr 08
On the Adver poll, where is the option, none of these stupid ideas???
Posted by: Tobz on 10:53am Mon 28 Apr 08
On the Adver poll, where is the option, none of these stupid ideas???


Filed under 'steve-o' ...

;-)
Posted by: angry monkey, Swindon on 11:41am Mon 28 Apr 08
I like the idea.

It would be improved if the structure was an enourmous pig being run over by brunel in a train though to celebrate the history of Swinetown.

I'm off to the shed to make my prototype.
Posted by: angel of the south, swindon on 12:16pm Mon 28 Apr 08
I think this is a wonderful idea, the horse looks beautiful (watch the film, it makes more sense of the idea)
I would certainly drive out of my way to see it.
this is a unique idea, gordon is a man with vision.
Posted by: Terence, Swindon on 1:14pm Mon 28 Apr 08
Lanky, noone is missing the point you describe, parts slowly coming together in such a way to make the whole is an ancient idea, and although interesting for 8yr olds learning about perspective I do not think it is appropriate for a landmark.

The last thing we need on the M4 is cars doing 70mph and all the drivers looking out of the window to catch that magic moment.
Posted by: Iffyo, gillingham on 1:25pm Mon 28 Apr 08
You're 'avin a laff, what a pile of horse manure! Who's gonna pay for this towering chunk of junk in the sky? And what about the cost of maintaining it? Perhaps it will be left to gradually rot and decay. Snuffing out poor Swindon folk as lumps fall off and rain down on them as they sleep peacfully in their beds at night.... The canal's a rubbish idea too!
Posted by: Iffyo, gillingham on 1:27pm Mon 28 Apr 08
You're 'avin a laff, what a pile of horse manure! Who's gonna pay for this towering chunk of junk in the sky? And what about the cost of maintaining it? Perhaps it will be left to gradually rot and decay. Snuffing out poor Swindon folk as lumps fall off and rain down on them as they sleep peacfully in their beds at night.... The canal's a rubbish idea too!
Posted by: gordon, purton on 1:32pm Mon 28 Apr 08
Terence wrote:
Lanky, noone is missing the point you describe, parts slowly coming together in such a way to make the whole is an ancient idea, and although interesting for 8yr olds learning about perspective I do not think it is appropriate for a landmark.

The last thing we need on the M4 is cars doing 70mph and all the drivers looking out of the window to catch that magic moment.
the fact that it is an ancient idea that is still in use, means it works.
what's wrong with young people learning about perspective?
it gives the idea another function.
What are the figures relating to accidents in Gateshead attributed to the angel of the north causing a distraction for careless drivers?

Posted by: gordon, purton on 1:38pm Mon 28 Apr 08
Terence wrote:
Lanky, noone is missing the point you describe, parts slowly coming together in such a way to make the whole is an ancient idea, and although interesting for 8yr olds learning about perspective I do not think it is appropriate for a landmark.

The last thing we need on the M4 is cars doing 70mph and all the drivers looking out of the window to catch that magic moment.
the fact that it is an ancient idea that is still in use, means it works.
what's wrong with young people learning about perspective?
it gives the idea another function.
What are the figures relating to accidents in Gateshead attributed to the angel of the north causing a distraction for careless drivers?

Posted by: SHEEPHEAD, SWINDON on 2:42pm Mon 28 Apr 08
Great idea Gordon.It will ba a fraction of the cost of the canal.It will be easier to clean.The canal will be full of shopping trollys,Beer cans and drunk's.Having seen Gordon's work over a number of year.s i know it will improve Swindon.So all you Whingers support something local for once.
Posted by: SHEEPHEAD, SWINDON on 3:04pm Mon 28 Apr 08
Is it a wig you are wearing Gordon
Posted by: steve-o, Swindon on 3:17pm Mon 28 Apr 08
Tobz wrote:
On the Adver poll, where is the option, none of these stupid ideas???
Filed under 'steve-o' ... ;-)
AH Tobz we now know your real name then!
Posted by: sirdave, Rowde Primary school on 4:37pm Mon 28 Apr 08
It's a shame that when someone comes up with an original idea the knee jerk reaction is to dismiss it out of hand. Gordon has installed his prototype at my school and it's fantastic - parents and children think it's great. In way can it be called a monstrosity. Newcastle had got it's Angel, America has the statue of Liberty, Rio de Janeiro has the christ figure, why not a giant white horse for Swindon? It would certainly put the place on the map and if you don't think a white horse is appropriate get Gordon to design a locomotive - he's a brilliant artist, give him a chance!
Posted by: sirdave, Rowde Primary school on 4:40pm Mon 28 Apr 08
It's a shame that when someone comes up with an original idea the knee jerk reaction is to dismiss it out of hand. Gordon has installed his prototype at my school and it's fantastic - parents and children think it's great. In no way can it be called a monstrosity. Newcastle had got it's Angel, America has the statue of Liberty, Rio de Janeiro has the christ figure, why not a giant white horse for Swindon? It would certainly put the place on the map and if you don't think a white horse is appropriate get Gordon to design a locomotive - he's a brilliant artist, give him a chance!
Posted by: Jason on 7:02pm Mon 28 Apr 08
How about a giant mobile, to be suspended from the light, at the magic roundabout?
It could have figures of Zebedee, Florence< Dylan, Dougal, Brian, etc
Posted by: Jess, swindon on 11:35pm Mon 28 Apr 08
I think this a fantastic idea, a beautiful contemporary sculpture would do a lot for Swindon. Gordon must be a genius! good luck with it x
Posted by: gordon, purton on 12:05am Tue 29 Apr 08
that's my girl!
Posted by: gordon, purton on 12:06am Tue 29 Apr 08
that's my girl!
Posted by: Terence, Swindon on 6:27am Tue 29 Apr 08
Jess wrote:
I think this a fantastic idea, a beautiful contemporary sculpture would do a lot for Swindon. Gordon must be a genius! good luck with it x
Yes, a beautiful contemporary sculpture would be good, but not this. It would be gaudy and lower the tone of Swindon from its present level, wherever that is.

Gordon, of course the idea still works, but it works on any scale and so it is not necessary to build an enormous one that glows in the dark. I think your work for the school is very nice and the scale fitting.
Posted by: gordon, purton on 2:57pm Tue 29 Apr 08
just read todays article.
i mentioned earlier "don't believe all you read in the papers"
out of ten printed comments, one was mine and 8 out of the remaining nine were negative.
how does that reflect the 65% to 35% in favour of my idea?

Posted by: Al Smith, Swindon, UK on 4:40pm Tue 29 Apr 08
Gordon, don't worry about it, I can't help but suspect that a person (or persons) working for the adver is very much in favour of the canal.

That's why there's another poll, they're hoping the canal will win (after it came 3rd to a music venue and better shopping centre).

To be honest I expect there to be a poll next week on whether Swindonians would prefer to have a canal or the plague (and the canal would still lose :D ;) )
Posted by: Brendan Hamley, Swindon on 11:43pm Tue 29 Apr 08
An Oxford guy once reluctently admitted to me that (despite it's faults) Swindon really seemed to him like the gateway to the West Country.

I love the idea of a monumental sculpture like this above the downs reinforcing this idea. People would look forward to seeing this and talk about it as they passed through.
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