Blind spot fear over bus route

This Is Wiltshire: Martha Parry, of Civic Voice, whose members feel that Bristol Street is not suitable for buses as the road is not wide enough and there is a sharp turning with a main entrance round the corner Martha Parry, of Civic Voice, whose members feel that Bristol Street is not suitable for buses as the road is not wide enough and there is a sharp turning with a main entrance round the corner

CONCERNS have been raised about the roads opposite the new University Technical College and the potential risk to students and residents.

The new college is set to open in September and will see several hundred students begin, with a potential capacity of 600 in a few years time.

It will be located off Bristol Street and the entrance is on a double bend with Church Place also joining nearby, creating a triple blind spot.

With the recent announcement that buses will be running in both directions, heritage group Swindon Civic Voice has said the road is not suitable and there is a high level of risk.

Chairwoman Martha Parry has said a far better option is for the buses to travel along Park Lane and Faringdon Road to reduce any danger and protect the area’s heritage.

She said: “The UTC provision is to be welcomed as it re-establishes a form of education which historically was highly successful in Swindon.

“At the bends it is not possible to see around the corner so we are relying on the bus drivers to slow down.

“There are only plans for four disabled car parking spaces so it is likely we will see a high number of pedestrians using this entrance at the beginning or or end of each day.

“When the buses are going in each direction there is on average one a minute so they are going to have to back up which will surely reduce punctuality.”

The Civic Voice has long argued the Village Centre is not suitable for buses and believes this is yet another reason why the routes should be moved.

Martha said: “Buses have been travelling along Faringdon Road now for a number of months and there has been no public outcry.

“When part of Bristol Street was shut for road repairs, because it was not built for buses, the world did not end. We are told there are going to be measures carried out so slow the buses down but this is just mitigating for the problem rather than fixing it.”

A number of measures are being taken to make the area safer for the students using the UTC.

A council spokesman said: “The traffic calming work is required as part of the planning permission for the UTC. Proposals have been put together to improve the pedestrian access at the UTC entrance on Bristol Street and to put in a speed table to enable a 20mph speed limit to be introduced should it be deemed necessary – speed surveys have shown that speeds are sufficiently low at present.

“Work is expected to start towards the end of September and neighbouring properties will receive notification of the exact dates and nature of the works together with any possible temporary diversions.”

Paul Jenkins, managing director of Thamesdown Transport, said: “Safety on the roads around the UTC is a priority for us and we are working with the UTC, and the other bus providers who operate in the town, to ensure that potential risks are minimised.

“We are each undertaking a risk assessment of the location, which will identify measures that need to be in place in time for the UTC opening later this year and these will be shared between all parties involved. It will include guidance to our drivers about a suitable speed when passing the UTC entrance.”

Angela Barker-Dench, the Principal of the UTC said: “We have met with Civic Voice and we are working together with all concerned to support the local community.”

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5:58am Thu 10 Jul 14

beach1e says...

another brilliant Adver picture..to show us what a bus is.thank you, i had seen these blue things but was never sure what one was.
another brilliant Adver picture..to show us what a bus is.thank you, i had seen these blue things but was never sure what one was. beach1e
  • Score: 23

7:04am Thu 10 Jul 14

nobody says...

Buses have been travelling both ways at those corners for years with no problems.
A problem will occur with all the drivers ignoring the no entry signs and speeding around the corner, often cutting the corner with no regard for any one else.
Buses have been travelling both ways at those corners for years with no problems. A problem will occur with all the drivers ignoring the no entry signs and speeding around the corner, often cutting the corner with no regard for any one else. nobody
  • Score: 8

8:43am Thu 10 Jul 14

swindondad says...

All that is needed is for existing traffic rules to be enforced and for pedestrians (Students) to use good judgment when crossing the road (not to much to hope for surely it is not a primary school after all.
All that is needed is for existing traffic rules to be enforced and for pedestrians (Students) to use good judgment when crossing the road (not to much to hope for surely it is not a primary school after all. swindondad
  • Score: 9

8:44am Thu 10 Jul 14

maikeru83 says...

I'll make the generalisation that people who go to colleges are fairly intelligent. So I'd imagine that they wouldn't cross the road on a blind turn. Also, I'd imagine the council wouldn't put the 4 disabled parking bays mentioned on a blind turn. So I can't really see the issue here. Sounds to me like a bunch of NIMBYs who just don't like public transport going past their pretty little cottages.
I'll make the generalisation that people who go to colleges are fairly intelligent. So I'd imagine that they wouldn't cross the road on a blind turn. Also, I'd imagine the council wouldn't put the 4 disabled parking bays mentioned on a blind turn. So I can't really see the issue here. Sounds to me like a bunch of NIMBYs who just don't like public transport going past their pretty little cottages. maikeru83
  • Score: 13

8:49am Thu 10 Jul 14

komadori says...

Buses need to go to the places passengers might want to travel to, and the UTC is going to be one such place. Buses used to pass by the railway works when it existed, with a far greater mass of people on the roads at the end of the working day than the UTC will ever create. Swindon Civic Voice often like to recall the past; in this case the past shows there isn't a problem.
Buses need to go to the places passengers might want to travel to, and the UTC is going to be one such place. Buses used to pass by the railway works when it existed, with a far greater mass of people on the roads at the end of the working day than the UTC will ever create. Swindon Civic Voice often like to recall the past; in this case the past shows there isn't a problem. komadori
  • Score: 16

9:14am Thu 10 Jul 14

Andy__ says...

I live on Faringdon road and it is absolutely rammed every evening, delaying all the buses.

Bristol street makes a perfect bus route.
I live on Faringdon road and it is absolutely rammed every evening, delaying all the buses. Bristol street makes a perfect bus route. Andy__
  • Score: 15

10:39am Thu 10 Jul 14

SAM2WIN says...

maikeru83 says...

I'll make the generalisation that people who go to colleges are fairly intelligent. So I'd imagine that they wouldn't cross the road on a blind turn



You have obviously never been along Queens Drive ,when the "highly intelligent" students at New College behave like lemmings crossing the road , refusing to use the signals as a guide to safety.
maikeru83 says... I'll make the generalisation that people who go to colleges are fairly intelligent. So I'd imagine that they wouldn't cross the road on a blind turn You have obviously never been along Queens Drive ,when the "highly intelligent" students at New College behave like lemmings crossing the road , refusing to use the signals as a guide to safety. SAM2WIN
  • Score: 5

4:16pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Allofthegoodusernamesweretaken says...

swindondad wrote:
All that is needed is for existing traffic rules to be enforced and for pedestrians (Students) to use good judgment when crossing the road (not to much to hope for surely it is not a primary school after all.
The problem is that the students probably won't show 'good judgement'. I regularly use North Star Avenue where the students cross from the bus stops to the College and the Oasis. It's an absolute nightmare with students running out from in front and behind the buses, particularly in September and October when there's a new intake. I actually called the council to see if there wasn't anything that could be done (i.e. a proper crossing) but was told that although they're aware that there's a problem, there haven't been enough 'serious' incidents to warrant anything being done. It's just a matter of time before someone gets killed there and I'd imagine that the roads near the UTC will be just the same.
[quote][p][bold]swindondad[/bold] wrote: All that is needed is for existing traffic rules to be enforced and for pedestrians (Students) to use good judgment when crossing the road (not to much to hope for surely it is not a primary school after all.[/p][/quote]The problem is that the students probably won't show 'good judgement'. I regularly use North Star Avenue where the students cross from the bus stops to the College and the Oasis. It's an absolute nightmare with students running out from in front and behind the buses, particularly in September and October when there's a new intake. I actually called the council to see if there wasn't anything that could be done (i.e. a proper crossing) but was told that although they're aware that there's a problem, there haven't been enough 'serious' incidents to warrant anything being done. It's just a matter of time before someone gets killed there and I'd imagine that the roads near the UTC will be just the same. Allofthegoodusernamesweretaken
  • Score: 1

9:47pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Scottswindon says...

The way that the number 1/1A/8/9/13/14 run now becuase most students will get off at emily sq or dean street and walk the five minute walk. The road is not that wide for buses to go down in both directions. I think they should keep how it is. A bus stop just out in front of the utc will be a good idea, for the students. The use of traffic lights in that area and in North Star avenue. Because it's hard to cross the road in swindon due to the lack of infrastructure in swindon.
The way that the number 1/1A/8/9/13/14 run now becuase most students will get off at emily sq or dean street and walk the five minute walk. The road is not that wide for buses to go down in both directions. I think they should keep how it is. A bus stop just out in front of the utc will be a good idea, for the students. The use of traffic lights in that area and in North Star avenue. Because it's hard to cross the road in swindon due to the lack of infrastructure in swindon. Scottswindon
  • Score: -17

12:35pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Sir Fawn Maker says...

Scottswindon wrote:
The way that the number 1/1A/8/9/13/14 run now becuase most students will get off at emily sq or dean street and walk the five minute walk. The road is not that wide for buses to go down in both directions. I think they should keep how it is. A bus stop just out in front of the utc will be a good idea, for the students. The use of traffic lights in that area and in North Star avenue. Because it's hard to cross the road in swindon due to the lack of infrastructure in swindon.
Not sure whether to give that a thumbs down. Can someone translate it from gibberish into English?
[quote][p][bold]Scottswindon[/bold] wrote: The way that the number 1/1A/8/9/13/14 run now becuase most students will get off at emily sq or dean street and walk the five minute walk. The road is not that wide for buses to go down in both directions. I think they should keep how it is. A bus stop just out in front of the utc will be a good idea, for the students. The use of traffic lights in that area and in North Star avenue. Because it's hard to cross the road in swindon due to the lack of infrastructure in swindon.[/p][/quote]Not sure whether to give that a thumbs down. Can someone translate it from gibberish into English? Sir Fawn Maker
  • Score: 2

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