Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors

This Is Wiltshire: Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors

WITH Regent Circus added to its portfolio alongside The Parade, UK Commercial Property Trust is confident it now has the means to keep shoppers in town day and night.

Robert Boag, senior investment director of the Guernsey company, acknowledge Swindon had issues in the past with keeping consumers in town when retailers began closing their doors at 5pm.

But he is confident the firm has the ideas, skills and knowledge of the area to entertain all their needs with The Parade’s daytime offering and evening leisure at Regent Circus.

The possibility of putting both complexes under one brand and marketing them together has been ruled out by Mr Boag, who said they will be run as entirely separate entities.

“I don’t think that’s going to be possible,” he said. “That’s the way we look at it – they are separate, but complimentary.

“Regent Circus is a welcome addition to the retail and leisure offer within Swindon and will hopefully mean that more people come into Swindon in the evening time.

“That’s been an issue before. This will give them a reason to come back in, rather than stay at home or go elsewhere.”

Last week, the Adver reported on the £32.8m price tag which had been slapped on the leisure and retail asset by Ashfield Land, the developer.

The final price agreed with UKCPT was £40.48m, driven up by keen interest from rival bidders.

Mr Boag said UKCPT was almost certainly helped by its past experience of the town in its ownership of The Parade.

“It’s been something the market’s been aware of for some time. It’s something I was aware of at the beginning of the summer, if not earlier,” he said.

“It was widely marketed, as you would expect. We were one of several parties interested.

“The fact we already own an asset in Swindon and I think we know quite a lot about Swindon helped us to make that significant investment.

“A lot of others might have had to do more work to find out about Swindon. We have spent a lot of money and know how retailing works in Swindon.

“The new housing, the new homes around Swindon are very positive statements about Swindon we believe in. There’s a lot going on.”

UKCPT will not have any significant, direct involvement on the ground at Regent Circus when it eventually opens.

Mr Boag said the company will hire a property management firm, which also manages The Parade, to oversee the complex when it is operational.

The firm will base staff at the site to ensure it runs smoothly.

Mr Boag could not confirm when Morrisons would open at the complex, but said he had been told it would be some time in November.

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8:29am Sat 23 Aug 14

Synergie says...

"Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors"
.
Unfortunately, they may well become sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered on the non-existent pedestrian crossings.
"Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors" . Unfortunately, they may well become sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered on the non-existent pedestrian crossings. Synergie
  • Score: 20

8:54am Sat 23 Aug 14

umpcah says...

Synergie wrote:
"Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors"
.
Unfortunately, they may well become sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered on the non-existent pedestrian crossings.
Look on the bright side ! Some may only be slightly injured !
[quote][p][bold]Synergie[/bold] wrote: "Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors" . Unfortunately, they may well become sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered on the non-existent pedestrian crossings.[/p][/quote]Look on the bright side ! Some may only be slightly injured ! umpcah
  • Score: 20

9:38am Sat 23 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

umpcah wrote:
Synergie wrote:
"Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors"
.
Unfortunately, they may well become sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered on the non-existent pedestrian crossings.
Look on the bright side ! Some may only be slightly injured !
In the fight, between people and vehicles, vehicles have yet to lose.
Maybe Swindon will "buck the trend"
😜
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Synergie[/bold] wrote: "Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors" . Unfortunately, they may well become sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered on the non-existent pedestrian crossings.[/p][/quote]Look on the bright side ! Some may only be slightly injured ![/p][/quote]In the fight, between people and vehicles, vehicles have yet to lose. Maybe Swindon will "buck the trend" 😜 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 14

9:57am Sat 23 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

Drunken revellers-confused motorists=accidents. How many people will have their evening ruined?
Sort this mess out!
Drunken revellers-confused motorists=accidents. How many people will have their evening ruined? Sort this mess out! Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: 23

10:02am Sat 23 Aug 14

matt71 says...

UKCPT know Swindon so well they are responsible for the empty Wiltshire hotel ,an eyesore debenhams building and a rotting office block on top with missing windows replaced by plywood. Fantastic track record.
UKCPT know Swindon so well they are responsible for the empty Wiltshire hotel ,an eyesore debenhams building and a rotting office block on top with missing windows replaced by plywood. Fantastic track record. matt71
  • Score: 36

10:50am Sat 23 Aug 14

Arrowfield says...

Does anyone really want to be in that area of town at night! There is more than just confused car drivers to be concerned about.
Does anyone really want to be in that area of town at night! There is more than just confused car drivers to be concerned about. Arrowfield
  • Score: 7

12:53pm Sat 23 Aug 14

reader5 says...

umpcah wrote:
Synergie wrote:
"Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors"
.
Unfortunately, they may well become sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered on the non-existent pedestrian crossings.
Look on the bright side ! Some may only be slightly injured !
i like these posts, exactly! they seem to be talking about the positive side of things for their own business, but not on the negative side for people that need to cross that road to go there!!
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Synergie[/bold] wrote: "Regent Circus boss says new complex will encourage night-time visitors" . Unfortunately, they may well become sacrificial lambs to be slaughtered on the non-existent pedestrian crossings.[/p][/quote]Look on the bright side ! Some may only be slightly injured ![/p][/quote]i like these posts, exactly! they seem to be talking about the positive side of things for their own business, but not on the negative side for people that need to cross that road to go there!! reader5
  • Score: -2

12:54pm Sat 23 Aug 14

reader5 says...

and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do!
and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do! reader5
  • Score: -2

2:56pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

reader5 wrote:
and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do!
A valid point; so I don't see why it got negative thumbs.
Perhaps the negative thumber would care enough to explain 🎓
[quote][p][bold]reader5[/bold] wrote: and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do![/p][/quote]A valid point; so I don't see why it got negative thumbs. Perhaps the negative thumber would care enough to explain 🎓 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -7

7:06pm Sat 23 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

reader5 wrote:
and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do!
Why should the council spend taxpayers money, it's their choice to get so drunk they don't know what they are doing. Maybe those who sell the alcohol should pay to make it "safer" of maybe stop serving people who clearly don't need anymore. Oh yes, they don't care as ling as the money keeps rolling in. People want the freedom of choice to get drunk but they also want others to pay for their safety. Er why?
[quote][p][bold]reader5[/bold] wrote: and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do![/p][/quote]Why should the council spend taxpayers money, it's their choice to get so drunk they don't know what they are doing. Maybe those who sell the alcohol should pay to make it "safer" of maybe stop serving people who clearly don't need anymore. Oh yes, they don't care as ling as the money keeps rolling in. People want the freedom of choice to get drunk but they also want others to pay for their safety. Er why? house on the hill
  • Score: -6

7:40pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Wildwestener says...

house on the hill wrote:
reader5 wrote:
and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do!
Why should the council spend taxpayers money, it's their choice to get so drunk they don't know what they are doing. Maybe those who sell the alcohol should pay to make it "safer" of maybe stop serving people who clearly don't need anymore. Oh yes, they don't care as ling as the money keeps rolling in. People want the freedom of choice to get drunk but they also want others to pay for their safety. Er why?
Whilst you have something of a point, it's not just the "drunks" who are in danger in this situation. If as a sober driver, a drunk walks out and you hit them through no fault of your own, don't think you will have no end of grief etc to deal with.
The crossing is a series of accidents waiting to happen. Why wait for someone to die before saying "you know what, maybe that won't work there, we'll put in an old fashioned crossing." No one would look daft if that happens and it would be refreshing to see someone acknowledge that maybe an idea which was a good idea maybe isn't practical.
Failing all of that, it would also be cheaper to the public purse of putting in a crossing than dealing with the accidents that are inevitable.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reader5[/bold] wrote: and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do![/p][/quote]Why should the council spend taxpayers money, it's their choice to get so drunk they don't know what they are doing. Maybe those who sell the alcohol should pay to make it "safer" of maybe stop serving people who clearly don't need anymore. Oh yes, they don't care as ling as the money keeps rolling in. People want the freedom of choice to get drunk but they also want others to pay for their safety. Er why?[/p][/quote]Whilst you have something of a point, it's not just the "drunks" who are in danger in this situation. If as a sober driver, a drunk walks out and you hit them through no fault of your own, don't think you will have no end of grief etc to deal with. The crossing is a series of accidents waiting to happen. Why wait for someone to die before saying "you know what, maybe that won't work there, we'll put in an old fashioned crossing." No one would look daft if that happens and it would be refreshing to see someone acknowledge that maybe an idea which was a good idea maybe isn't practical. Failing all of that, it would also be cheaper to the public purse of putting in a crossing than dealing with the accidents that are inevitable. Wildwestener
  • Score: 4

10:28pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Eastern Badger says...

matt71 wrote:
UKCPT know Swindon so well they are responsible for the empty Wiltshire hotel ,an eyesore debenhams building and a rotting office block on top with missing windows replaced by plywood. Fantastic track record.
It is really relevant that if they can't find tenants for the run down end of town why should we believe they have the towns interests at heart? They have found a small area with pre-let tenants who 'should' last whereas the rest of the town conducts of pound shops, charity shops, (no Curry's or Next) - yes it's a town on the up!!

Waitrose in Wichelstowe works despite the location - could the centre not emulate this success? Swindon doesn't always have to dumb down.
[quote][p][bold]matt71[/bold] wrote: UKCPT know Swindon so well they are responsible for the empty Wiltshire hotel ,an eyesore debenhams building and a rotting office block on top with missing windows replaced by plywood. Fantastic track record.[/p][/quote]It is really relevant that if they can't find tenants for the run down end of town why should we believe they have the towns interests at heart? They have found a small area with pre-let tenants who 'should' last whereas the rest of the town conducts of pound shops, charity shops, (no Curry's or Next) - yes it's a town on the up!! Waitrose in Wichelstowe works despite the location - could the centre not emulate this success? Swindon doesn't always have to dumb down. Eastern Badger
  • Score: 1

11:45pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

Davey Gravey told me he was gay.
Davey Gravey told me he was gay. Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: -1

11:58pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

I love Swindon Borough Council. I am Davey Gravey
I love Swindon Borough Council. I am Davey Gravey Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: -1

12:48am Sun 24 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Alan Bast*rd wrote:
I love Swindon Borough Council. I am Davey Gravey
Nope.
You're sandor clegane and a bit of an @rse
[quote][p][bold]Alan Bast*rd[/bold] wrote: I love Swindon Borough Council. I am Davey Gravey[/p][/quote]Nope. You're sandor clegane and a bit of an @rse Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 2

1:22am Sun 24 Aug 14

Isthisthebestswindon cando says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
Alan Bast*rd wrote:
I love Swindon Borough Council. I am Davey Gravey
Nope.
You're sandor clegane and a bit of an @rse
Gentlemen please, a little bit of decency?
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Bast*rd[/bold] wrote: I love Swindon Borough Council. I am Davey Gravey[/p][/quote]Nope. You're sandor clegane and a bit of an @rse[/p][/quote]Gentlemen please, a little bit of decency? Isthisthebestswindon cando
  • Score: 0

1:24am Sun 24 Aug 14

Isthisthebestswindon cando says...

It is reassuring to see a positive story about Swindon. I am not entirely sure from where the extra shoppers will be drawn, but nonetheless wish the Regents Circus complex the very best for the future.
It is reassuring to see a positive story about Swindon. I am not entirely sure from where the extra shoppers will be drawn, but nonetheless wish the Regents Circus complex the very best for the future. Isthisthebestswindon cando
  • Score: -1

8:27am Sun 24 Aug 14

umpcah says...

Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote:
It is reassuring to see a positive story about Swindon. I am not entirely sure from where the extra shoppers will be drawn, but nonetheless wish the Regents Circus complex the very best for the future.
Every effort is made to keep the Outlet Village successful and then the council realise that the Town Centre shops are having a tough time. No doubt Regent Circus after its rejig will immediately attract curious shoppers but with more and more folk shopping happily on-line it`s anyone`s guess which area will emerge as a permanent success.
[quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: It is reassuring to see a positive story about Swindon. I am not entirely sure from where the extra shoppers will be drawn, but nonetheless wish the Regents Circus complex the very best for the future.[/p][/quote]Every effort is made to keep the Outlet Village successful and then the council realise that the Town Centre shops are having a tough time. No doubt Regent Circus after its rejig will immediately attract curious shoppers but with more and more folk shopping happily on-line it`s anyone`s guess which area will emerge as a permanent success. umpcah
  • Score: 6

9:06am Sun 24 Aug 14

beach1e says...

what a fool this man is..he is talking about swindon, the town is mainly peopled by beggars and benefit scroungers during the day and thugs,drunks and prostitutes at night...wonder how long this bright dream will be kept alive
what a fool this man is..he is talking about swindon, the town is mainly peopled by beggars and benefit scroungers during the day and thugs,drunks and prostitutes at night...wonder how long this bright dream will be kept alive beach1e
  • Score: 1

9:26am Sun 24 Aug 14

umpcah says...

beach1e wrote:
what a fool this man is..he is talking about swindon, the town is mainly peopled by beggars and benefit scroungers during the day and thugs,drunks and prostitutes at night...wonder how long this bright dream will be kept alive
Don't be so realistic !
[quote][p][bold]beach1e[/bold] wrote: what a fool this man is..he is talking about swindon, the town is mainly peopled by beggars and benefit scroungers during the day and thugs,drunks and prostitutes at night...wonder how long this bright dream will be kept alive[/p][/quote]Don't be so realistic ! umpcah
  • Score: 0

11:09am Sun 24 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
Alan Bast*rd wrote:
I love Swindon Borough Council. I am Davey Gravey
Nope.
You're sandor clegane and a bit of an @rse
Looks like someone had a few shandies again.
To be fair at least this is more pathetic rather than malicious.
There are a few things I like to do after a few beer but must admit a comments section on the local news site is not one of them, when it is I believe I will have bigger problems.
Sandor even you have to put your hands up this time this is pretty p1ss poor.
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Bast*rd[/bold] wrote: I love Swindon Borough Council. I am Davey Gravey[/p][/quote]Nope. You're sandor clegane and a bit of an @rse[/p][/quote]Looks like someone had a few shandies again. To be fair at least this is more pathetic rather than malicious. There are a few things I like to do after a few beer but must admit a comments section on the local news site is not one of them, when it is I believe I will have bigger problems. Sandor even you have to put your hands up this time this is pretty p1ss poor. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 1

11:45am Sun 24 Aug 14

Isthisthebestswindon cando says...

umpcah wrote:
Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote:
It is reassuring to see a positive story about Swindon. I am not entirely sure from where the extra shoppers will be drawn, but nonetheless wish the Regents Circus complex the very best for the future.
Every effort is made to keep the Outlet Village successful and then the council realise that the Town Centre shops are having a tough time. No doubt Regent Circus after its rejig will immediately attract curious shoppers but with more and more folk shopping happily on-line it`s anyone`s guess which area will emerge as a permanent success.
That is a very good point, and I too am doubtful that there will be sufficient long term shopping traffic, but who knows? Maybe a bit of increased competition will also be good for the town?
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: It is reassuring to see a positive story about Swindon. I am not entirely sure from where the extra shoppers will be drawn, but nonetheless wish the Regents Circus complex the very best for the future.[/p][/quote]Every effort is made to keep the Outlet Village successful and then the council realise that the Town Centre shops are having a tough time. No doubt Regent Circus after its rejig will immediately attract curious shoppers but with more and more folk shopping happily on-line it`s anyone`s guess which area will emerge as a permanent success.[/p][/quote]That is a very good point, and I too am doubtful that there will be sufficient long term shopping traffic, but who knows? Maybe a bit of increased competition will also be good for the town? Isthisthebestswindon cando
  • Score: 0

11:47am Sun 24 Aug 14

Isthisthebestswindon cando says...

beach1e wrote:
what a fool this man is..he is talking about swindon, the town is mainly peopled by beggars and benefit scroungers during the day and thugs,drunks and prostitutes at night...wonder how long this bright dream will be kept alive
I would rather be a fool that someone who describes Swindon as you have. Yes, of course the town has its problems but "mainly peopled" as you suggest, I sincerely doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]beach1e[/bold] wrote: what a fool this man is..he is talking about swindon, the town is mainly peopled by beggars and benefit scroungers during the day and thugs,drunks and prostitutes at night...wonder how long this bright dream will be kept alive[/p][/quote]I would rather be a fool that someone who describes Swindon as you have. Yes, of course the town has its problems but "mainly peopled" as you suggest, I sincerely doubt it. Isthisthebestswindon cando
  • Score: -2

1:30pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Isthisthebestswindon cando wrote:
beach1e wrote:
what a fool this man is..he is talking about swindon, the town is mainly peopled by beggars and benefit scroungers during the day and thugs,drunks and prostitutes at night...wonder how long this bright dream will be kept alive
I would rather be a fool that someone who describes Swindon as you have. Yes, of course the town has its problems but "mainly peopled" as you suggest, I sincerely doubt it.
There was so much wrong with the comment I didnt know where to start.
The area this person comes from must have an awe inspiring level of education.
[quote][p][bold]Isthisthebestswindon cando[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beach1e[/bold] wrote: what a fool this man is..he is talking about swindon, the town is mainly peopled by beggars and benefit scroungers during the day and thugs,drunks and prostitutes at night...wonder how long this bright dream will be kept alive[/p][/quote]I would rather be a fool that someone who describes Swindon as you have. Yes, of course the town has its problems but "mainly peopled" as you suggest, I sincerely doubt it.[/p][/quote]There was so much wrong with the comment I didnt know where to start. The area this person comes from must have an awe inspiring level of education. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -1

1:37pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Alan Bast*rd wrote:
Davey Gravey told me he was gay.
Channel X, Sandy etc etc...Councilor should we just call you by your name?
Your use of the word gay seems to of been used as a slur or in with malicious intent?

sandor clegane can you state exactly what you mean by your comment made using another persons account.
Isnt this exactly what you were moaning about a couple of weeks ago?
You are a strange little man
[quote][p][bold]Alan Bast*rd[/bold] wrote: Davey Gravey told me he was gay.[/p][/quote]Channel X, Sandy etc etc...Councilor should we just call you by your name? Your use of the word gay seems to of been used as a slur or in with malicious intent? sandor clegane can you state exactly what you mean by your comment made using another persons account. Isnt this exactly what you were moaning about a couple of weeks ago? You are a strange little man Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 2

5:09pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Not content with mirroring the account of Alan Bast*rd, the site troll has also opened an account as Alan B'stard.

What do you suppose the freak is hoping to achieve?
Not content with mirroring the account of Alan Bast*rd, the site troll has also opened an account as Alan B'stard. What do you suppose the freak is hoping to achieve? Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 0

6:31pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
Not content with mirroring the account of Alan Bast*rd, the site troll has also opened an account as Alan B'stard.

What do you suppose the freak is hoping to achieve?
Some serious issues to be looked at I have had quite a bit of experience in mental health but wow...I am sure as a case study the subject would be invaluable??
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: Not content with mirroring the account of Alan Bast*rd, the site troll has also opened an account as Alan B'stard. What do you suppose the freak is hoping to achieve?[/p][/quote]Some serious issues to be looked at I have had quite a bit of experience in mental health but wow...I am sure as a case study the subject would be invaluable?? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 2

12:02pm Mon 25 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

Wildwestener wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
reader5 wrote:
and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do!
Why should the council spend taxpayers money, it's their choice to get so drunk they don't know what they are doing. Maybe those who sell the alcohol should pay to make it "safer" of maybe stop serving people who clearly don't need anymore. Oh yes, they don't care as ling as the money keeps rolling in. People want the freedom of choice to get drunk but they also want others to pay for their safety. Er why?
Whilst you have something of a point, it's not just the "drunks" who are in danger in this situation. If as a sober driver, a drunk walks out and you hit them through no fault of your own, don't think you will have no end of grief etc to deal with.
The crossing is a series of accidents waiting to happen. Why wait for someone to die before saying "you know what, maybe that won't work there, we'll put in an old fashioned crossing." No one would look daft if that happens and it would be refreshing to see someone acknowledge that maybe an idea which was a good idea maybe isn't practical.
Failing all of that, it would also be cheaper to the public purse of putting in a crossing than dealing with the accidents that are inevitable.
I completely agree with your last point but as with so many things it is about spending money on a quick cure rather than trying to look at prevention. We seem to spend hundreds of £billions looking after the drunk and obese and those with self inflicted issues and situations, don't you sometimes get just a little bit pi55ed of working hard to pay for other peoples choices. A free country isn't one where everything is provided free no matter what, it is one where you can make your choice but with your choices comes responsibility and consequences that you should be prepared to pay for.
[quote][p][bold]Wildwestener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reader5[/bold] wrote: and there will be a lot of drunk people walking along that road after a night out, so we will see what the council intend to do![/p][/quote]Why should the council spend taxpayers money, it's their choice to get so drunk they don't know what they are doing. Maybe those who sell the alcohol should pay to make it "safer" of maybe stop serving people who clearly don't need anymore. Oh yes, they don't care as ling as the money keeps rolling in. People want the freedom of choice to get drunk but they also want others to pay for their safety. Er why?[/p][/quote]Whilst you have something of a point, it's not just the "drunks" who are in danger in this situation. If as a sober driver, a drunk walks out and you hit them through no fault of your own, don't think you will have no end of grief etc to deal with. The crossing is a series of accidents waiting to happen. Why wait for someone to die before saying "you know what, maybe that won't work there, we'll put in an old fashioned crossing." No one would look daft if that happens and it would be refreshing to see someone acknowledge that maybe an idea which was a good idea maybe isn't practical. Failing all of that, it would also be cheaper to the public purse of putting in a crossing than dealing with the accidents that are inevitable.[/p][/quote]I completely agree with your last point but as with so many things it is about spending money on a quick cure rather than trying to look at prevention. We seem to spend hundreds of £billions looking after the drunk and obese and those with self inflicted issues and situations, don't you sometimes get just a little bit pi55ed of working hard to pay for other peoples choices. A free country isn't one where everything is provided free no matter what, it is one where you can make your choice but with your choices comes responsibility and consequences that you should be prepared to pay for. house on the hill
  • Score: 0

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