Tory chairman Shapps repeats Miliband's Swindon council gaffe

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CONSERVATIVE Party chairman Grant Shapps admitted he did not know the name of the top Tory in a key council election battleground - just a day after mocking Labour leader Ed Miliband for making the same gaffe.

Mr Shapps said he was sure that the leader of Swindon Council was "a great guy" but it was "hard to keep track" of the party's council leaders because there were so many.

His inability to name David Renard was all the more embarrassing after he used his official Twitter account yesterday to join ridicule of Mr Miliband for failing to identify the leader of the Labour group there.

"When in a hole stop digging Ed...worst interview ever," read a message he re-tweeted to 7,000-plus followers after the Labour leader's on-air slip-up during a campaign visit to the Wiltshire town.

Mr Miliband also appeared to be unaware that the local authority was controlled by the Conservatives and not his party - despite it being a target in tomorrow's polls.

But Mr Shapps too was left red-faced when he appeared on LBC radio and was asked if he could name the council leader.

"I knew you were going to ask me that and I still didn't look it up. But he's a great guy," he said.

"We have so many councillors across the country that it's hard to keep track."

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5:33pm Wed 21 May 14

Davey Gravey says...

Oh dear. A bit quiet from the site Tory trolls now aint it?
Oh dear. A bit quiet from the site Tory trolls now aint it? Davey Gravey
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5:39pm Wed 21 May 14

trolley dolley says...

There is a difference between not knowing someone's name and pretending you know when you obviously don't.

EM just had not got a clue and didn't even realise it.
There is a difference between not knowing someone's name and pretending you know when you obviously don't. EM just had not got a clue and didn't even realise it. trolley dolley
  • Score: 5

5:58pm Wed 21 May 14

express_a_view says...

trolley dolley wrote:
There is a difference between not knowing someone's name and pretending you know when you obviously don't.

EM just had not got a clue and didn't even realise it.
I really am slightly bemused that political interviews have now become obsessed with recalling names of specific local politicians rather than debating issues. I would have thought effective interviews of either man would be better spent asking probing questions about policy.
[quote][p][bold]trolley dolley[/bold] wrote: There is a difference between not knowing someone's name and pretending you know when you obviously don't. EM just had not got a clue and didn't even realise it.[/p][/quote]I really am slightly bemused that political interviews have now become obsessed with recalling names of specific local politicians rather than debating issues. I would have thought effective interviews of either man would be better spent asking probing questions about policy. express_a_view
  • Score: 12

6:14pm Wed 21 May 14

Richard Symonds says...

Poor old Swindon.

No wonder we didn't get the money for the Thamesdown Drive extension from the Autumn Statement even they do no even know David Renard's name!!

Isn't there a photo of him somewhere taken outside No 10? Must have made a lasting impression!

I wonder what would happen to Shapps today if he returned to Cavendish Square again? They probably would not recognize him!!
Poor old Swindon. No wonder we didn't get the money for the Thamesdown Drive extension from the Autumn Statement even they do no even know David Renard's name!! Isn't there a photo of him somewhere taken outside No 10? Must have made a lasting impression! I wonder what would happen to Shapps today if he returned to Cavendish Square again? They probably would not recognize him!! Richard Symonds
  • Score: -1

7:59pm Wed 21 May 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Oh dear. A bit quiet from the site Tory trolls now aint it?
Said the troll who claims not to support Labour... but will be voting Labour tomorrow.

You also went to great lengths to detail how senior national party members can't be expected to know the names of local nobodies.

So, tell us again, who's changed their tune?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. A bit quiet from the site Tory trolls now aint it?[/p][/quote]Said the troll who claims not to support Labour... but will be voting Labour tomorrow. You also went to great lengths to detail how senior national party members can't be expected to know the names of local nobodies. So, tell us again, who's changed their tune? ChannelX
  • Score: 0

8:11pm Wed 21 May 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Oh dear. A bit quiet from the site Tory trolls now aint it?
Said the troll who claims not to support Labour... but will be voting Labour tomorrow.

You also went to great lengths to detail how senior national party members can't be expected to know the names of local nobodies.

So, tell us again, who's changed their tune?
Christ. That was a fast thumb fiddle there.
An instant +5 good work.
I
My tune hasn't changed.I just love the irony of this article.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. A bit quiet from the site Tory trolls now aint it?[/p][/quote]Said the troll who claims not to support Labour... but will be voting Labour tomorrow. You also went to great lengths to detail how senior national party members can't be expected to know the names of local nobodies. So, tell us again, who's changed their tune?[/p][/quote]Christ. That was a fast thumb fiddle there. An instant +5 good work. I My tune hasn't changed.I just love the irony of this article. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -4

8:49pm Wed 21 May 14

Blackwell 2 says...

Well done Adver.
Good to see balanced reporting.

It's a pity the councillors/wannabe politicians that badger people on this site are not so balanced.

Pity our elected representatives don't put as much effort into more important issues for SWINDON.

Too busy pretending they're in Westminster.
Rather pathetic really :-(
Well done Adver. Good to see balanced reporting. It's a pity the councillors/wannabe politicians that badger people on this site are not so balanced. Pity our elected representatives don't put as much effort into more important issues for SWINDON. Too busy pretending they're in Westminster. Rather pathetic really :-( Blackwell 2
  • Score: 2

10:17pm Wed 21 May 14

ChаnnelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Oh dear. A bit quiet from the site Tory trolls now aint it?
Said the troll who claims not to support Labour... but will be voting Labour tomorrow.

You also went to great lengths to detail how senior national party members can't be expected to know the names of local nobodies.

So, tell us again, who's changed their tune?
Christ. That was a fast thumb fiddle there.
An instant +5 good work.
I
My tune hasn't changed.I just love the irony of this article.
Well if you voteLabour you are scum, along with any other lefties who think that 'caring' for people in society is a good thing.

Everything should make a profit, never mind socialism, to hell with that, if it doesn't make a profit for investors then stamp it out since it's simply theft from those who generate wealth.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. A bit quiet from the site Tory trolls now aint it?[/p][/quote]Said the troll who claims not to support Labour... but will be voting Labour tomorrow. You also went to great lengths to detail how senior national party members can't be expected to know the names of local nobodies. So, tell us again, who's changed their tune?[/p][/quote]Christ. That was a fast thumb fiddle there. An instant +5 good work. I My tune hasn't changed.I just love the irony of this article.[/p][/quote]Well if you voteLabour you are scum, along with any other lefties who think that 'caring' for people in society is a good thing. Everything should make a profit, never mind socialism, to hell with that, if it doesn't make a profit for investors then stamp it out since it's simply theft from those who generate wealth. ChаnnelX
  • Score: -2

12:29am Thu 22 May 14

BeardyBill says...

Well if you vote Tory you are scum, along with any other fascists who think that using public wealth to support private business is a good thing (but only if they then fund your party machine with large donations).

Some things are too important to be left to make a profit. Services like utilities, water, rail, health, education should never be run for profit, as it sucks money away from the service, never mind fascism, to hell with that, if it makes a profit for spivs, parasites, con-men and fraudsters then stamp it out since it's simply theft from those who generate wealth, ie the workers
Well if you vote Tory you are scum, along with any other fascists who think that using public wealth to support private business is a good thing (but only if they then fund your party machine with large donations). Some things are too important to be left to make a profit. Services like utilities, water, rail, health, education should never be run for profit, as it sucks money away from the service, never mind fascism, to hell with that, if it makes a profit for spivs, parasites, con-men and fraudsters then stamp it out since it's simply theft from those who generate wealth, ie the workers BeardyBill
  • Score: -1

8:03am Thu 22 May 14

ChannelX says...

What a thread. I Too's back out in force under one of his four logins, although forgetting to use 'Plastic' before Westminster, and - pure coincidence, I'm sure - the loser who cloned my account is also back.

Rather ironically, it's 'play the victim card' I Too / Blackwell 2 who tries to pretent that I 'stifle debate' here - despite, obviously, everyone being more than able to post whatever they want, whenever they want.
What a thread. I Too's back out in force under one of his four logins, although forgetting to use 'Plastic' before Westminster, and - pure coincidence, I'm sure - the loser who cloned my account is also back. Rather ironically, it's 'play the victim card' I Too / Blackwell 2 who tries to pretent that I 'stifle debate' here - despite, obviously, everyone being more than able to post whatever they want, whenever they want. ChannelX
  • Score: 0

8:04am Thu 22 May 14

ChannelX says...

BeardyBill wrote:
Well if you vote Tory you are scum, along with any other fascists who think that using public wealth to support private business is a good thing (but only if they then fund your party machine with large donations).

Some things are too important to be left to make a profit. Services like utilities, water, rail, health, education should never be run for profit, as it sucks money away from the service, never mind fascism, to hell with that, if it makes a profit for spivs, parasites, con-men and fraudsters then stamp it out since it's simply theft from those who generate wealth, ie the workers
Thanks for chipping in, Stalin.
[quote][p][bold]BeardyBill[/bold] wrote: Well if you vote Tory you are scum, along with any other fascists who think that using public wealth to support private business is a good thing (but only if they then fund your party machine with large donations). Some things are too important to be left to make a profit. Services like utilities, water, rail, health, education should never be run for profit, as it sucks money away from the service, never mind fascism, to hell with that, if it makes a profit for spivs, parasites, con-men and fraudsters then stamp it out since it's simply theft from those who generate wealth, ie the workers[/p][/quote]Thanks for chipping in, Stalin. ChannelX
  • Score: 1

10:25am Thu 22 May 14

trolley dolley says...

BeardyBill wrote:
Well if you vote Tory you are scum, along with any other fascists who think that using public wealth to support private business is a good thing (but only if they then fund your party machine with large donations).

Some things are too important to be left to make a profit. Services like utilities, water, rail, health, education should never be run for profit, as it sucks money away from the service, never mind fascism, to hell with that, if it makes a profit for spivs, parasites, con-men and fraudsters then stamp it out since it's simply theft from those who generate wealth, ie the workers
Today I became scum in the eyes of BBill, I voted CONSERVATIVE.

I did so in the belief that what BBill calls PUBLIC WEALTH but is really taxation of all but those on benefits will continue to be used wisely.

Any fool can spend money as happens often in Swindon with various groups who end up closing.

It is better to manage the money and if that means making a profit, good so long as outcomes are met.

Socialists can never be trusted with money.
[quote][p][bold]BeardyBill[/bold] wrote: Well if you vote Tory you are scum, along with any other fascists who think that using public wealth to support private business is a good thing (but only if they then fund your party machine with large donations). Some things are too important to be left to make a profit. Services like utilities, water, rail, health, education should never be run for profit, as it sucks money away from the service, never mind fascism, to hell with that, if it makes a profit for spivs, parasites, con-men and fraudsters then stamp it out since it's simply theft from those who generate wealth, ie the workers[/p][/quote]Today I became scum in the eyes of BBill, I voted CONSERVATIVE. I did so in the belief that what BBill calls PUBLIC WEALTH but is really taxation of all but those on benefits will continue to be used wisely. Any fool can spend money as happens often in Swindon with various groups who end up closing. It is better to manage the money and if that means making a profit, good so long as outcomes are met. Socialists can never be trusted with money. trolley dolley
  • Score: 2

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