Plain cigarette packs ‘will bring in £2m’

This Is Wiltshire: Ilpa Patel Ilpa Patel

A CIGARETTE pack branding ban would not only save thousands of lives in Swindon but would boost the town economy by more than £2m, health chiefs have claimed.

New figures released by Public Health England predict savings of around £2,031,168 across town if standardised tobacco packaging was introduced – providing an economic lift to the most deprived communities.

The report comes following data from Australia, where the standardised and branding-free packs were introduced in December 2012, showing a 3.4 per cent fall in tobacco sales by volume in the first year.

If mirrored in the UK, PHE also predicts total savings of up to £3.84m in Wiltshire.

Fiona Andrews, director of Smokefree South West, said standardised packs would help to significantly reduce the number of young smokers.

“The evidence is in, and it is clear,” she said. “This shows that the introduction of standard packs is likely to decrease the number of children in the South West starting to smoke.

“Attractive packaging is a key reason why young people are tempted to try smoking which can lead on into a lifetime of addiction, an addiction that ends in death for 1 in 2 of all long-term smokers.”

But Ilpa Patel, owner of Victoria News in Old Town, was sceptical about the standardised packs and their ability to truly reduce smoking’s appeal.

“I don’t think it will make a difference,” she said. “If people want to smoke they’ll smoke. Some people care about the branding and what’s on the packet but I think they’ll still smoke.”

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6:35pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Hmmmf says...

Well that's odd, according to this: http://goo.gl/4lzCpc "deliveries of tobacco to retailers in Australia rose slightly last year for the first time in at least five years." Seems to suggest that the evidence isn't exactly in, isn't exactly clear, and doesn't exactly show that plain packaging is the magic bullet claimed by Ms Andrews.
Well that's odd, according to this: http://goo.gl/4lzCpc "deliveries of tobacco to retailers in Australia rose slightly last year for the first time in at least five years." Seems to suggest that the evidence isn't exactly in, isn't exactly clear, and doesn't exactly show that plain packaging is the magic bullet claimed by Ms Andrews. Hmmmf
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8:07pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Goat67 says...

I think they could be onto something and would support the idea so long as there is no discrimination.

So long as we also insist on plain packaging for any product capable of harming or killing a human being.

Examples; Alcohol, Solvents, Unhealthy foods, deodorants, toothpaste, pharmaceuticals.

Why stop there? Lets make them list all the COSH information regarding the ingredients of products.
I think they could be onto something and would support the idea so long as there is no discrimination. So long as we also insist on plain packaging for any product capable of harming or killing a human being. Examples; Alcohol, Solvents, Unhealthy foods, deodorants, toothpaste, pharmaceuticals. Why stop there? Lets make them list all the COSH information regarding the ingredients of products. Goat67
  • Score: 4

8:11pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Robh says...

It is all a load of male cattle. They jump on anything to push the campaign.
It is all a load of male cattle. They jump on anything to push the campaign. Robh
  • Score: 3

9:43pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Hmmmf says...

True, Robh. They banned all forms of tobacco advertising and that had no effect on smoking cessation or uptake rates either. And now they're making the same claims for packaging as they did for all other forms of advertising and are expecting a different result? Interesting to see the link made in the Telegraph article between plain packaging and the increase in illicit tobacco sales over there in Australia, especially given all the fuss about it in the rags here recently.
Not sure why my first post garnered so many negative responses, perhaps people don't like to see facts which are the polar opposite of the Adver's reportage and Smokefree South West's propaganda?
True, Robh. They banned all forms of tobacco advertising and that had no effect on smoking cessation or uptake rates either. And now they're making the same claims for packaging as they did for all other forms of advertising and are expecting a different result? Interesting to see the link made in the Telegraph article between plain packaging and the increase in illicit tobacco sales over there in Australia, especially given all the fuss about it in the rags here recently. Not sure why my first post garnered so many negative responses, perhaps people don't like to see facts which are the polar opposite of the Adver's reportage and Smokefree South West's propaganda? Hmmmf
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10:45pm Thu 14 Aug 14

TenerifeRed says...

“.... an addiction that ends in death for 1 in 2 of all long-term smokers.”

and the rest live forever...
“.... an addiction that ends in death for 1 in 2 of all long-term smokers.” and the rest live forever... TenerifeRed
  • Score: 7

8:06am Fri 15 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

If people stop smoking, they live longer. When people live longer, they cost the NHS even more money.

And, of course, people who don't smoke at all also suffer health problems and eventually die.

In reality, there will be no 'savings' of any kind due to plain cigarette packets being introduced. It's likely to end up costing us all even more money.
If people stop smoking, they live longer. When people live longer, they cost the NHS even more money. And, of course, people who don't smoke at all also suffer health problems and eventually die. In reality, there will be no 'savings' of any kind due to plain cigarette packets being introduced. It's likely to end up costing us all even more money. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 8

9:03am Fri 15 Aug 14

jonelway says...

Quitting smoking will cost the tax payer money. A lot of money. Figures from 2011 for example...

VAT and excise on tobacco: £12.1b (HMRC data)
Cost to NHS of smoking related illness: £2.7b (ASH data)
Highest estimate of NHS costs: £5.7b (ASH data)

So even in the worst case, if all the VAT and excise from smoking went into the NHS smokers would be subsidizing non-smokers' healthcare to the tune of £6.4b (so don't blame the smokers, blame the inept and incompetent government)
Quitting smoking will cost the tax payer money. A lot of money. Figures from 2011 for example... VAT and excise on tobacco: £12.1b (HMRC data) Cost to NHS of smoking related illness: £2.7b (ASH data) Highest estimate of NHS costs: £5.7b (ASH data) So even in the worst case, if all the VAT and excise from smoking went into the NHS smokers would be subsidizing non-smokers' healthcare to the tune of £6.4b (so don't blame the smokers, blame the inept and incompetent government) jonelway
  • Score: 4

9:33am Fri 15 Aug 14

messyits says...

One friend died at 49 a few years ago--never drank alcohol--never smoked.
Another life-long pal at 93 heavy smoker--drinker.
Smokers will smoke regardless and support the economy by heavy taxation--death comes to all regardless of lifestyle.
One friend died at 49 a few years ago--never drank alcohol--never smoked. Another life-long pal at 93 heavy smoker--drinker. Smokers will smoke regardless and support the economy by heavy taxation--death comes to all regardless of lifestyle. messyits
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10:10am Fri 15 Aug 14

scottwichall says...

So a government quango demonstrates the usual lack of intelligence whilst pushing its agenda and a complete misunderstanding of a market economy.

The only people that will benefit from plain packaging is counterfeiters. The Police have told the DoH of this in the recent "consultation", as have the tobacco companies who work closely with InterPol to try and reduce counterfeiting.

Plus if the tobacco companies successfully sue HMG via the WTO for the predicted quantity of around 5 billion pounds for the theft of their IPR, only a bunch of finger wagging clowns like PHE could dream up that this would boost Swindon's economy.

I also quote this statement:
"The evidence is in, and it is clear,” she said. “This shows that the introduction of standard packs is likely to decrease the number of children in the South West starting to smoke."

So the current real evidence from Australia, which is showing a large increase in teenage smokers translates to a reduction in children starting smoking in Fiona Andrews taxpayer funded public health circle jerk existence.

Nice.

I shall give you a fine example of how "special" these public health people are, the World Health Organisation actually excluded the aforementioned InterPol from their last "Conference of the Parties" just because they had worked with the tobacco companies to try and stamp out counterfeiting. InterPol FFS.

This lavishly funded shower already held one "consultation", and unfortunately, the public actually found out about the "consultation" and responded with a resounding "NO" to plain packaging. Undeterred, they have just held another one, which as they get all their mates in the public sector to sign on to a "yes" vote well will probably go the other way.

Plain packaging will then roll out to Alcohol, and anything that we don't "need" in the muesli fueled ideological dream world of public health.
So a government quango demonstrates the usual lack of intelligence whilst pushing its agenda and a complete misunderstanding of a market economy. The only people that will benefit from plain packaging is counterfeiters. The Police have told the DoH of this in the recent "consultation", as have the tobacco companies who work closely with InterPol to try and reduce counterfeiting. Plus if the tobacco companies successfully sue HMG via the WTO for the predicted quantity of around 5 billion pounds for the theft of their IPR, only a bunch of finger wagging clowns like PHE could dream up that this would boost Swindon's economy. I also quote this statement: "The evidence is in, and it is clear,” she said. “This shows that the introduction of standard packs is likely to decrease the number of children in the South West starting to smoke." So the current real evidence from Australia, which is showing a large increase in teenage smokers translates to a reduction in children starting smoking in Fiona Andrews taxpayer funded public health circle jerk existence. Nice. I shall give you a fine example of how "special" these public health people are, the World Health Organisation actually excluded the aforementioned InterPol from their last "Conference of the Parties" just because they had worked with the tobacco companies to try and stamp out counterfeiting. InterPol FFS. This lavishly funded shower already held one "consultation", and unfortunately, the public actually found out about the "consultation" and responded with a resounding "NO" to plain packaging. Undeterred, they have just held another one, which as they get all their mates in the public sector to sign on to a "yes" vote well will probably go the other way. Plain packaging will then roll out to Alcohol, and anything that we don't "need" in the muesli fueled ideological dream world of public health. scottwichall
  • Score: -11

11:34am Fri 15 Aug 14

Phantom Poster says...

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11:37am Fri 15 Aug 14

Phantom Poster says...

"an addiction which ends in death for 1 in 2 of all long-term smokers"

So does that mean that half of all long- term smokers never die?
"an addiction which ends in death for 1 in 2 of all long-term smokers" So does that mean that half of all long- term smokers never die? Phantom Poster
  • Score: 6

9:31pm Fri 15 Aug 14

timt1964 says...

why is the lady in the picture holding a charity box? the government havent got a clue(for a change!!) the plain packaging wont make any difference at all.what next plain wrappers for chocolate bars and lager cans? just more gimmicks with the election on the horizon.how come they can afford to arm kurds but not provide the health service we should have?
why is the lady in the picture holding a charity box? the government havent got a clue(for a change!!) the plain packaging wont make any difference at all.what next plain wrappers for chocolate bars and lager cans? just more gimmicks with the election on the horizon.how come they can afford to arm kurds but not provide the health service we should have? timt1964
  • Score: 5

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