Reward offered in tyre slasher case

This Is Wiltshire: A mechanic attends to a slashed tyre in Dixon Street yesterday A mechanic attends to a slashed tyre in Dixon Street yesterday

THE leader of Swindon Council and the Police and Crime Commissioner have pledged a £500 reward for information on the car tyre vandal dubbed the ‘Swindon slasher’.

Coun Rod Bluh and fellow Tory Angus Macpherson have teamed up to see that whoever is responsible for the widespread criminal damage of more than 90 vehicles in the Old Town and town centre area is brought to swift justice.

As of yesterday, Wiltshire Police had received almost 90 separate reports from owners of vehicles which have been damaged – many of whom had all four tyres slashed.

Coun Bluh (Con, Old Town) said: “I was appalled when I heard the news and this is completely unacceptable. I don’t understand the mentality of a person who would do it once let alone 150 times.

“The police commissioner and I are putting up the reward to get someone to come forward and send out a message the we will not stand for this on our patch.

“Someone in our community committed this wanton criminal damage and there are 90 victims of crime who are facing the costs and people don’t need this right now.”

Wiltshire Police is maintaining increased patrols following the large scale criminal damage to vehicles, but distanced themselves from the reward offer.

A spokesman said: “Wiltshire Police is not associated with this offer of a reward in connection with this incident.

“A thorough police investigation is ongoing and increased patrols from both the local Neighbourhood Policing Team and investigators from the Priority Crime Team remain in the area.”

Vehicles parked on several residential streets between Swindon town centre and Old Town were damaged between 3am and 5am on Thursday morning.

The affected roads included Stafford Street, Dixon Street, Prospect Hill, East Street, Wood Street, Evelyn Street, North Street, Raggett Street, Westlecot Road and Berenger Close.

East Sector Inspector Joseph Saunders said that several lines of enquiry were underway and that CCTV from local businesses in the area was being examined.

He said: “This investigation is still very much active and we maintain an increased presence in the affected areas.

“We also had extra patrols on throughout the night and this morning.

“I would continue to urge anyone who has had their vehicle damaged to contact Wiltshire Police so that each crime is logged in the correct way.

“I am also keen to hear from anyone who might have any information on this incident or might have seen anything unusual throughout Wednesday evening and early Thursday morning.”

Anyone with information is asked to contact Wiltshire Police on 101 or call Crimestoppers, where information can be left anonymously, on 0800 555 111.

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9:00am Sat 23 Feb 13

gambon says...

increased patrols after this has happened is like closing the stable door once the horse has bolted this should never of happened to 1 poor victim but 120 cars that is outrageous and the police did not even see someone doing this was there no patrols out? It's not like it would take 5 minutes to slash 120 peoples car tyres that must of taken at least a couple of hours
increased patrols after this has happened is like closing the stable door once the horse has bolted this should never of happened to 1 poor victim but 120 cars that is outrageous and the police did not even see someone doing this was there no patrols out? It's not like it would take 5 minutes to slash 120 peoples car tyres that must of taken at least a couple of hours gambon

9:54am Sat 23 Feb 13

semitonic says...

This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in.

Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.
This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in. Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere. semitonic

9:55am Sat 23 Feb 13

Morsey says...

I understand from the radio that two halfwits were arrested and given bail? One hopes that they are being kept safe, but the possibility of retribution by victims is ... maybe safer to ask to be remanded? Still, it's progress ain't it?
I understand from the radio that two halfwits were arrested and given bail? One hopes that they are being kept safe, but the possibility of retribution by victims is ... maybe safer to ask to be remanded? Still, it's progress ain't it? Morsey

10:04am Sat 23 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Morsey wrote:
I understand from the radio that two halfwits were arrested and given bail? One hopes that they are being kept safe, but the possibility of retribution by victims is ... maybe safer to ask to be remanded? Still, it's progress ain't it?
Bail? I sincerely hope that isn't the case. Talk about insult to injury.

Although, they are seriously at risk once people find out who they are... and it won't take long.
[quote][p][bold]Morsey[/bold] wrote: I understand from the radio that two halfwits were arrested and given bail? One hopes that they are being kept safe, but the possibility of retribution by victims is ... maybe safer to ask to be remanded? Still, it's progress ain't it?[/p][/quote]Bail? I sincerely hope that isn't the case. Talk about insult to injury. [p] Although, they are seriously at risk once people find out who they are... and it won't take long. Tim Newroman

10:08am Sat 23 Feb 13

semitonic says...

They'd probably be given police protection, which we'd be paying for. How ironic.
They'd probably be given police protection, which we'd be paying for. How ironic. semitonic

10:09am Sat 23 Feb 13

Big Boss Man says...

Although, they are seriously at risk once people find out who they are... and it won't take long.

It may take a while
[quote] Although, they are seriously at risk once people find out who they are... and it won't take long. [/quote] It may take a while Big Boss Man

10:10am Sat 23 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

semitonic wrote:
They'd probably be given police protection, which we'd be paying for. How ironic.
That can't last forever. Whoever did this really has no idea what they've let themselves in for. A short jail spell, not that they'll get one, would certainly be the very least of their worries right now.
[quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: They'd probably be given police protection, which we'd be paying for. How ironic.[/p][/quote]That can't last forever. Whoever did this really has no idea what they've let themselves in for. A short jail spell, not that they'll get one, would certainly be the very least of their worries right now. Tim Newroman

10:14am Sat 23 Feb 13

Wellfire says...

A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?
A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence? Wellfire

10:21am Sat 23 Feb 13

Hmmmf says...

Great. Taxpayers pay for all the services which are supposed to prevent and detect crime, and now have to pay for a PCC who is going to hand out even more taxpayers money to spare the police from having to do their job?
Great. Taxpayers pay for all the services which are supposed to prevent and detect crime, and now have to pay for a PCC who is going to hand out even more taxpayers money to spare the police from having to do their job? Hmmmf

10:23am Sat 23 Feb 13

whaddahey?! says...

The answer is no. I'm not aware of a single incidence of a crime being committed in which the possibility of punishment or retribution caused a young person a moments pause. I'm not one of the "birch 'em or make 'em join the army" brigade - but it seems to me that the deterent element of the law is tiny to non-existant. All we use it for now is as a tool to tidy up the mess AFTER something has happened - which is of course grossly inefficient and ineffective.
The answer is no. I'm not aware of a single incidence of a crime being committed in which the possibility of punishment or retribution caused a young person a moments pause. I'm not one of the "birch 'em or make 'em join the army" brigade - but it seems to me that the deterent element of the law is tiny to non-existant. All we use it for now is as a tool to tidy up the mess AFTER something has happened - which is of course grossly inefficient and ineffective. whaddahey?!

10:25am Sat 23 Feb 13

I Could Do That says...

Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded


I suspect any funds, that may have enabled extra policing, were lost in the campaign to elect and employ a political chief commissioner
[quote] Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded [/quote] I suspect any funds, that may have enabled extra policing, were lost in the campaign to elect and employ a political chief commissioner I Could Do That

10:54am Sat 23 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Big Boss Man wrote:
Although, they are seriously at risk once people find out who they are... and it won't take long.

It may take a while
Really, what makes you think that? Two people have already been arrested.
[quote][p][bold]Big Boss Man[/bold] wrote: [quote] Although, they are seriously at risk once people find out who they are... and it won't take long. [/quote] It may take a while[/p][/quote]Really, what makes you think that? Two people have already been arrested. Tim Newroman

10:56am Sat 23 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Wellfire wrote:
A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?
Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned.

They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence.

This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.
[quote][p][bold]Wellfire[/bold] wrote: A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?[/p][/quote]Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned. [p] They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence. [p] This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done. Tim Newroman

12:23pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Localboy86 says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
Wellfire wrote:
A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?
Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned.

They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence.

This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.
Ridiculs comment, stirring up trouble when in reality your just a keyboard warrior
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wellfire[/bold] wrote: A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?[/p][/quote]Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned. [p] They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence. [p] This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.[/p][/quote]Ridiculs comment, stirring up trouble when in reality your just a keyboard warrior Localboy86

12:28pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Localboy86 wrote:
Tim Newroman wrote:
Wellfire wrote:
A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?
Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned.

They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence.

This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.
Ridiculs comment, stirring up trouble when in reality your just a keyboard warrior
What will happen will happen, doesn't make any difference what's posted on this website.

You don't actually know anything about me... and it's you who is coming across as the embittered little man hiding behind his Internet connection.

You probably weren't even affected by the tyre slashing criminality. Mind you, you do seem to stand up for criminals fairly regularly, maybe you know who did it.
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wellfire[/bold] wrote: A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?[/p][/quote]Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned. [p] They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence. [p] This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.[/p][/quote]Ridiculs comment, stirring up trouble when in reality your just a keyboard warrior[/p][/quote]What will happen will happen, doesn't make any difference what's posted on this website. [p] You don't actually know anything about me... and it's you who is coming across as the embittered little man hiding behind his Internet connection. [p] You probably weren't even affected by the tyre slashing criminality. Mind you, you do seem to stand up for criminals fairly regularly, maybe you know who did it. Tim Newroman

12:47pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Localboy86 says...

Don't see how I have ever stood up for criminals, just think the police should be left to do there job. I also think you and your moany old friends should stop filling this site with vile rants, you make Swindon look bad.
Don't see how I have ever stood up for criminals, just think the police should be left to do there job. I also think you and your moany old friends should stop filling this site with vile rants, you make Swindon look bad. Localboy86

12:54pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Localboy86 wrote:
Don't see how I have ever stood up for criminals, just think the police should be left to do there job. I also think you and your moany old friends should stop filling this site with vile rants, you make Swindon look bad.
Oh, the irony.
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: Don't see how I have ever stood up for criminals, just think the police should be left to do there job. I also think you and your moany old friends should stop filling this site with vile rants, you make Swindon look bad.[/p][/quote]Oh, the irony. Tim Newroman

1:30pm Sat 23 Feb 13

MrAngry says...

These scum should be jailed AND made to pay damages to their victims even if that means a £1 a week out of their benefits for the rest of their lives.

In practice they will get away with a slap on the wrist and a few hours community service.
These scum should be jailed AND made to pay damages to their victims even if that means a £1 a week out of their benefits for the rest of their lives. In practice they will get away with a slap on the wrist and a few hours community service. MrAngry

1:34pm Sat 23 Feb 13

MrAngry says...

semitonic wrote:
They'd probably be given police protection, which we'd be paying for. How ironic.
We will also get to pay Rob Ross's fees to defend them.
[quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: They'd probably be given police protection, which we'd be paying for. How ironic.[/p][/quote]We will also get to pay Rob Ross's fees to defend them. MrAngry

2:12pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Fartim Poster says...

Localboy86 wrote:
Don't see how I have ever stood up for criminals, just think the police should be left to do there job. I also think you and your moany old friends should stop filling this site with vile rants, you make Swindon look bad.
Take no notice.
Your original comment was correct
[quote][p][bold]Localboy86[/bold] wrote: Don't see how I have ever stood up for criminals, just think the police should be left to do there job. I also think you and your moany old friends should stop filling this site with vile rants, you make Swindon look bad.[/p][/quote]Take no notice. Your original comment was correct Fartim Poster

2:21pm Sat 23 Feb 13

stu2010 says...

semitonic wrote:
This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in.

Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.
£500 ? I'd shop my own mother for that!
[quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in. Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.[/p][/quote]£500 ? I'd shop my own mother for that! stu2010

4:04pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Amberflame says...

semitonic wrote:
This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in.

Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.
Really?
You don't think your bloodthirsty comment is over the top??
[quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in. Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.[/p][/quote]Really? You don't think your bloodthirsty comment is over the top?? Amberflame

4:12pm Sat 23 Feb 13

roberto5 says...

stu2010 wrote:
semitonic wrote:
This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in.

Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.
£500 ? I'd shop my own mother for that!
LOL I would do it for a £5!
[quote][p][bold]stu2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in. Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.[/p][/quote]£500 ? I'd shop my own mother for that![/p][/quote]LOL I would do it for a £5! roberto5

4:27pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Amberflame wrote:
semitonic wrote:
This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in.

Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.
Really?
You don't think your bloodthirsty comment is over the top??
Just shows how sick and tired of these types of criminals the public really are.

It also highlights that justice is rarely ever seen to be done in our courts.

Things will really turn nasty for the criminals concerned once the eventual court sentence is announced.

Should they die for what they did? Probably not. But, then, we wouldn't be asking the question had they not been such *****. It was their decision to do what they did, now they will have to face the consequences.
[quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in. Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.[/p][/quote]Really? You don't think your bloodthirsty comment is over the top??[/p][/quote]Just shows how sick and tired of these types of criminals the public really are. [p] It also highlights that justice is rarely ever seen to be done in our courts. [p] Things will really turn nasty for the criminals concerned once the eventual court sentence is announced. [p] Should they die for what they did? Probably not. But, then, we wouldn't be asking the question had they not been such *****. It was their decision to do what they did, now they will have to face the consequences. Tim Newroman

6:26pm Sat 23 Feb 13

semitonic says...

Amberflame wrote:
semitonic wrote:
This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in.

Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.
Really?
You don't think your bloodthirsty comment is over the top??
No.
[quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in. Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.[/p][/quote]Really? You don't think your bloodthirsty comment is over the top??[/p][/quote]No. semitonic

8:03pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Phantom Poster says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
Wellfire wrote:
A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?
Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned.

They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence.

This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.
Presumably you don't understand the law regarding incitement to violence? You haven't heard of people being arrested for posting such things?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wellfire[/bold] wrote: A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?[/p][/quote]Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned. [p] They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence. [p] This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.[/p][/quote]Presumably you don't understand the law regarding incitement to violence? You haven't heard of people being arrested for posting such things? Phantom Poster

10:41pm Sat 23 Feb 13

semitonic says...

When the culprits are found they should be charged with incitement to violence along with criminal damage.

They deliberately set out to annoy and disrupt the lives of as many people as they possibly could on the way home from the pub.

How else would they expect hard working victims to react?

I do hope they are given a jolly good kicking in a dark alley, screaming for their mums before swallowing their own teeth.
When the culprits are found they should be charged with incitement to violence along with criminal damage. They deliberately set out to annoy and disrupt the lives of as many people as they possibly could on the way home from the pub. How else would they expect hard working victims to react? I do hope they are given a jolly good kicking in a dark alley, screaming for their mums before swallowing their own teeth. semitonic

11:12pm Sat 23 Feb 13

let_breathe_clean_air says...

Did anyone noticed less traffic on the roads recently ? And we were able to cross them safely ? Must be due to the recent decreasing numbers of muppet road users.

Not happy and stressed ?? why not just take a stroll or catch the bus or train, or even learn to ride a bike.
Did anyone noticed less traffic on the roads recently ? And we were able to cross them safely ? Must be due to the recent decreasing numbers of muppet road users. Not happy and stressed ?? why not just take a stroll or catch the bus or train, or even learn to ride a bike. let_breathe_clean_air

11:29pm Sat 23 Feb 13

let_breathe_clean_air says...

roberto5 wrote:
stu2010 wrote:
semitonic wrote:
This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in.

Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.
£500 ? I'd shop my own mother for that!
LOL I would do it for a £5!
For £500 I would buy the biggest bag of weed in the whole wide world and share and with everyone in Swindon. You all are invited including the Council and the Crime Commissioner for kindly pledging the reward. Of course I do not inhale personally.
[quote][p][bold]roberto5[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stu2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: This is a good move but I'm not sure £500 would be enough to get someone to spill the beans on one of their mates. I think it's more likely a parent will find out it's one of their halfwit children and hand them in. Although I wasn't one of the unfortunate victims I'd be really delighted if I read in the Adver that the perpetrators were found kicked to death in an alley somewhere.[/p][/quote]£500 ? I'd shop my own mother for that![/p][/quote]LOL I would do it for a £5![/p][/quote]For £500 I would buy the biggest bag of weed in the whole wide world and share and with everyone in Swindon. You all are invited including the Council and the Crime Commissioner for kindly pledging the reward. Of course I do not inhale personally. let_breathe_clean_air

10:07am Sun 24 Feb 13

semitonic says...

That's very generous of you let_ but there's a small problem - you need to know who did it.
That's very generous of you let_ but there's a small problem - you need to know who did it. semitonic

5:27pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Phantom Poster wrote:
Tim Newroman wrote:
Wellfire wrote:
A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?
Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned.

They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence.

This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.
Presumably you don't understand the law regarding incitement to violence? You haven't heard of people being arrested for posting such things?
There is not law of 'Inctiement to violence', it was abolished on 1 October 2008.

Also, I'm not sure why you assume that my comment about 'ensuring that proper justice is seen to be done' might involve anything other than correct us of legal avenues.

My position is very clear: it would, of course, be truly frightful if any harm were to befall the people who carried out these crimes. Really, I'd find it deeply upsetting and concerning. Very much so.
[quote][p][bold]Phantom Poster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wellfire[/bold] wrote: A relative of mine lives and has a business in one of the affected streets and has suffered a number of instances of vandalism in recent years. Calls for increased policing have gone unheeded, so maybe some good will result from this incident. As for the knuckle draggers who did this, will the courts for once do their duty and administer an appropriate, i.e. severe, sentence?[/p][/quote]Wellfire, the only aspect of this case that's guaranteed is that the sentence handed down by the magistrate or judge will not even come close to reflecting the devastation and expense caused to hundreds of people by the criminals concerned. [p] They won't even be charged with the full raft of crimes they have committed, let alone receive an appropriate sentence. [p] This is one of those times where the hundred or so people involved will have to ensure that proper justice is seen to be done.[/p][/quote]Presumably you don't understand the law regarding incitement to violence? You haven't heard of people being arrested for posting such things?[/p][/quote]There is not law of 'Inctiement to violence', it was abolished on 1 October 2008. [p] Also, I'm not sure why you assume that my comment about 'ensuring that proper justice is seen to be done' might involve anything other than correct us of legal avenues. [p] My position is very clear: it would, of course, be truly frightful if any harm were to befall the people who carried out these crimes. Really, I'd find it deeply upsetting and concerning. Very much so. Tim Newroman

9:15am Mon 25 Feb 13

I Could Do That says...

Wow
Wow I Could Do That

9:21am Mon 25 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

I Could Do That wrote:
Wow
Insightful as ever.
[quote][p][bold]I Could Do That[/bold] wrote: Wow[/p][/quote]Insightful as ever. Tim Newroman

9:26am Mon 25 Feb 13

I Could Do That says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
I Could Do That wrote:
Wow
Insightful as ever.
Wow
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I Could Do That[/bold] wrote: Wow[/p][/quote]Insightful as ever.[/p][/quote]Wow I Could Do That

9:32am Mon 25 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

I Could Do That wrote:
Tim Newroman wrote:
I Could Do That wrote:
Wow
Insightful as ever.
Wow
Why do you even bother?
[quote][p][bold]I Could Do That[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I Could Do That[/bold] wrote: Wow[/p][/quote]Insightful as ever.[/p][/quote]Wow[/p][/quote]Why do you even bother? Tim Newroman

9:41am Mon 25 Feb 13

I Could Do That says...

:-)
:-) I Could Do That

9:42am Mon 25 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

According to the reports, this started at 2am, the police started getting reports at 3.30am and it finished at 5am.

So what on earth was Inspector Knacker doing between 3.30-5am? It's not as though there were tons of people out on the streets at that time - send a couple of cars to the vicinity and if you see someone on the streets ask them what they're doing. Hardly rocket science!!
According to the reports, this started at 2am, the police started getting reports at 3.30am and it finished at 5am. So what on earth was Inspector Knacker doing between 3.30-5am? It's not as though there were tons of people out on the streets at that time - send a couple of cars to the vicinity and if you see someone on the streets ask them what they're doing. Hardly rocket science!! Jeremy Hilary Boob

9:48am Mon 25 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

@Jeremy Hilary Boob: while I definitely see your point, there are probably only about 2 policemen working in Swindon at that time of the night on a weekday, and they'd more than likely be attending a 'domestic' situation.

I do agree, though, it is incredible how a couple of people can essentially run riot - and commit 100 to 150 serious crimes - through a contained urban area for 3 hours without being challenged by anyone or picked up by the police.
@Jeremy Hilary Boob: while I definitely see your point, there are probably only about 2 policemen working in Swindon at that time of the night on a weekday, and they'd more than likely be attending a 'domestic' situation. [p] I do agree, though, it is incredible how a couple of people can essentially run riot - and commit 100 to 150 serious crimes - through a contained urban area for 3 hours without being challenged by anyone or picked up by the police. Tim Newroman

10:42am Mon 25 Feb 13

semitonic says...

Lets hope they've caught the right people, I'd imagine a great deal of Swindonians are watching developments with keen interest.
Lets hope they've caught the right people, I'd imagine a great deal of Swindonians are watching developments with keen interest. semitonic

10:44pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Phantom Poster says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
@Jeremy Hilary Boob: while I definitely see your point, there are probably only about 2 policemen working in Swindon at that time of the night on a weekday, and they'd more than likely be attending a 'domestic' situation.

I do agree, though, it is incredible how a couple of people can essentially run riot - and commit 100 to 150 serious crimes - through a contained urban area for 3 hours without being challenged by anyone or picked up by the police.
Why? Do you honestly expect a policemen on every street corner?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: @Jeremy Hilary Boob: while I definitely see your point, there are probably only about 2 policemen working in Swindon at that time of the night on a weekday, and they'd more than likely be attending a 'domestic' situation. [p] I do agree, though, it is incredible how a couple of people can essentially run riot - and commit 100 to 150 serious crimes - through a contained urban area for 3 hours without being challenged by anyone or picked up by the police.[/p][/quote]Why? Do you honestly expect a policemen on every street corner? Phantom Poster

9:48am Tue 26 Feb 13

Silent Majority says...

So, 90 crimes, plead guilty to one of criminal damage and ask for 89 to be taken into consideration. Probable result is a small fine and some unpaid community work as laid down in the sentencing guidelines for magistrates.
Or
Accept a 'conditional caution' from the police as an admission of guilt and as a condition of said caution the offender is required to pay back over a given period of time the cost of each tyre replaced and associated reasonabel expenses incurred as a result of the crimes, in consultation, as used to required under the Home Office Circular for Cautioning Adult Offenders, with each of the victims.
I wonder which way it will go?
So, 90 crimes, plead guilty to one of criminal damage and ask for 89 to be taken into consideration. Probable result is a small fine and some unpaid community work as laid down in the sentencing guidelines for magistrates. Or Accept a 'conditional caution' from the police as an admission of guilt and as a condition of said caution the offender is required to pay back over a given period of time the cost of each tyre replaced and associated reasonabel expenses incurred as a result of the crimes, in consultation, as used to required under the Home Office Circular for Cautioning Adult Offenders, with each of the victims. I wonder which way it will go? Silent Majority

11:25am Tue 26 Feb 13

Always Grumpy says...

Silent Majority wrote:
So, 90 crimes, plead guilty to one of criminal damage and ask for 89 to be taken into consideration. Probable result is a small fine and some unpaid community work as laid down in the sentencing guidelines for magistrates.
Or
Accept a 'conditional caution' from the police as an admission of guilt and as a condition of said caution the offender is required to pay back over a given period of time the cost of each tyre replaced and associated reasonabel expenses incurred as a result of the crimes, in consultation, as used to required under the Home Office Circular for Cautioning Adult Offenders, with each of the victims.
I wonder which way it will go?
You're a hard man, those are pretty tough sentences you're suggesting for committing a crime in Swindon.
[quote][p][bold]Silent Majority[/bold] wrote: So, 90 crimes, plead guilty to one of criminal damage and ask for 89 to be taken into consideration. Probable result is a small fine and some unpaid community work as laid down in the sentencing guidelines for magistrates. Or Accept a 'conditional caution' from the police as an admission of guilt and as a condition of said caution the offender is required to pay back over a given period of time the cost of each tyre replaced and associated reasonabel expenses incurred as a result of the crimes, in consultation, as used to required under the Home Office Circular for Cautioning Adult Offenders, with each of the victims. I wonder which way it will go?[/p][/quote]You're a hard man, those are pretty tough sentences you're suggesting for committing a crime in Swindon. Always Grumpy

12:28pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

Phantom Poster wrote:
Tim Newroman wrote:
@Jeremy Hilary Boob: while I definitely see your point, there are probably only about 2 policemen working in Swindon at that time of the night on a weekday, and they'd more than likely be attending a 'domestic' situation.

I do agree, though, it is incredible how a couple of people can essentially run riot - and commit 100 to 150 serious crimes - through a contained urban area for 3 hours without being challenged by anyone or picked up by the police.
Why? Do you honestly expect a policemen on every street corner?
Right, I see, so, because someone says it's probably not great that there may be only 2 or 3 police officiers on duty in the early hours in a town of 200,000 people, you think that the solution must be to want several thousands police officers on duty. Well done, good job, have a gold star.
[quote][p][bold]Phantom Poster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: @Jeremy Hilary Boob: while I definitely see your point, there are probably only about 2 policemen working in Swindon at that time of the night on a weekday, and they'd more than likely be attending a 'domestic' situation. [p] I do agree, though, it is incredible how a couple of people can essentially run riot - and commit 100 to 150 serious crimes - through a contained urban area for 3 hours without being challenged by anyone or picked up by the police.[/p][/quote]Why? Do you honestly expect a policemen on every street corner?[/p][/quote]Right, I see, so, because someone says it's probably not great that there may be only 2 or 3 police officiers on duty in the early hours in a town of 200,000 people, you think that the solution must be to want several thousands police officers on duty. Well done, good job, have a gold star. Tim Newroman

7:42pm Tue 26 Feb 13

MrAngry says...

I wonder whether the police record this as one crime or 150 crimes in their statistics.

I wouldn't be suprised if it was 1 crime when unsolved and now 150 once solved.

Fiddling performance targets is the public sectors primary function.
I wonder whether the police record this as one crime or 150 crimes in their statistics. I wouldn't be suprised if it was 1 crime when unsolved and now 150 once solved. Fiddling performance targets is the public sectors primary function. MrAngry

8:38am Wed 27 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

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