Row still rumbling over Swindon Council's unspent £18m

This Is Wiltshire: Mark Dempsey Mark Dempsey

COUNCILLORS were at loggerheads at a public meeting on over Swindon Council’s unspent £18m of funds allocated for community projects.

Last week Freedom of Information requests by the BBC revealed that the council had not used the section 106 cash – provided by housebuilders whenever a large development is carried out for use in that area – while residents continued to struggle under severe cutbacks.

But council leaders have responded to criticism by saying that section 106 money is not ready cash that can be used as and when they choose.

At the East Locality meeting on Thursday issues came to a head after a member of the public asked why the money had not been used to support fledgling community projects in the area.

Coun Mark Dempsey (Lab, Walcot & Park North) and the Parliamentary candidate for North Swindon repeated claims that the unspent cash was a result of the council’s mismanagement of the town’s finances.

But Coun Dale Heenan (Con, Covingham & Dorcan), the cabinet member for strategic planning and sustainability, said that the unused funds were a consequence of the money being ring-fenced for particular projects and as a result of some payments being given in instalments by developers.

He said: “Every single pound received by Swindon Council from housing developers is accounted for, and is being spent in accordance with the legal contracts, the decisions of the cross party planning committee and is allocated to departments like adult social care, education and transport with all details being open and transparent.

“The shadow spokesman for strategic planning, Coun Julian Price deserves a pat on the back for standing up to his deputy group leader at a packed public meeting to say he is wrong.

“If Coun Mark Dempsey is confused about how council finances and planning work there is nothing wrong with asking for help, but he is showing his true colours with his party political soundbites to further his career and confuse residents. Especially when his own colleagues disagree with his wild claims of mismanagement. Residents deserve better.

“I challenge the councillor for Walcot and Park North to restore his credibility and apologise to the hard working council employees who he has wrongly accused of financial mismanagement.”

Nevertheless Coun Dempsey has stood by claims that the Conservative-led council has wasted taxpayers’ money.

“The Swindon Tories have got Swindon Council into a whopping £92m worth of debt,” he said. “That’s a wallet busting £1,045 for every household. The Tories have wasted £45m on the failed housing development at Wichelstowe, and £15m on an unwanted car park. This shows that the Tories cannot be trusted to manage Swindon’s finances. The Tories financial mess will take years to put right.

“I am also concerned about the management of Section 106 money. The Tories failed to deliver £20m of investment earmarked for road improvements in North Swindon. Only 16 per cent was spent in North Swindon, where the money was originally designated for.

“I share the concerns of people across the town, who feel that the management of this money is anything but transparent, and I think Coun Heenan shows just how out of touch he and the Tories are in Swindon.

“It is vital that we get full value for money and build a better future for Swindon. And end the Tory record of debt waste and failure.”

Coun Price, (Lab, Covingham and Dorcan), also took the opportunity to clarify his position.

He said: “Where Mark and I have concerns is where the discretionary money is spent.

“The Conservative group have a reputation for making tenuous links between where the section 106 is spent and the development where it came from.

“For example, using section 106 money for Penhill to build a pedestrian crossing in the town centre because Penhill residents will use it to get into town.”

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8:01am Sat 18 Jan 14

ChannelX says...

So, Mark Dempsey is simultaneously attacking the council for spending too much money... and not spending all the money they have?

His quotes do sound just like the usual Labour party buzz word nonsense.

And as for 'financial mess', his party wrote the book on that during their last period in government. A disaster that we're still paying for today and will be paying for well into the next couple of decades.

How anyone from the Labour party has the nerve to bang on about economic mismanagement I will never know.
So, Mark Dempsey is simultaneously attacking the council for spending too much money... and not spending all the money they have? His quotes do sound just like the usual Labour party buzz word nonsense. And as for 'financial mess', his party wrote the book on that during their last period in government. A disaster that we're still paying for today and will be paying for well into the next couple of decades. How anyone from the Labour party has the nerve to bang on about economic mismanagement I will never know. ChannelX

10:11am Sat 18 Jan 14

Wildwestener says...

I don't care about the Tories and Labour's little party bickering, what I am astounded by is that as a resident of West Swindon, watching massive developments in the North (and West) having massive impacts on all the local residents, there was £20m for road improvements here which have not been spent. The area is gridlocked twice a day now and with no end to development is only going to get worse. So come on Councillors of all persuasions, get your heads out of your backsides and get on with sorting it out.
Failing that; maybe we should form a town wide independent group of candidates for the elections to boot out all the useless, self-serving Councillors and who will stand up for normal Council Tax payers who are getting a rum deal from all the current parties.
I don't care about the Tories and Labour's little party bickering, what I am astounded by is that as a resident of West Swindon, watching massive developments in the North (and West) having massive impacts on all the local residents, there was £20m for road improvements here which have not been spent. The area is gridlocked twice a day now and with no end to development is only going to get worse. So come on Councillors of all persuasions, get your heads out of your backsides and get on with sorting it out. Failing that; maybe we should form a town wide independent group of candidates for the elections to boot out all the useless, self-serving Councillors and who will stand up for normal Council Tax payers who are getting a rum deal from all the current parties. Wildwestener

10:42am Sat 18 Jan 14

Al Smith says...

Seeing as you're banging on about financial mess ChannelX and as this is a Swindon newspaper discussing a Swindon Borough Council financial issue would care to tell us what SBC's debt/surplus was when the Conservatives took over from Labour and what the debt is now?

Any answer other than the plain facts and figures (or a statement that you don't know) will look to me like the actions of someone desperately trying to deflect attention away from the failings of Conservative led SBC and people would quite rightly ask themselves why would an ordinary resident of Swindon be so keen to that.
Seeing as you're banging on about financial mess ChannelX and as this is a Swindon newspaper discussing a Swindon Borough Council financial issue would care to tell us what SBC's debt/surplus was when the Conservatives took over from Labour and what the debt is now? Any answer other than the plain facts and figures (or a statement that you don't know) will look to me like the actions of someone desperately trying to deflect attention away from the failings of Conservative led SBC and people would quite rightly ask themselves why would an ordinary resident of Swindon be so keen to that. Al Smith

10:44am Sat 18 Jan 14

RichardR1 says...

One has to say if there are contractual stumbling blocks re this money then once again the councils legal department could well have messed up more contracts. The money is either owed or it isn't.
One has to say if there are contractual stumbling blocks re this money then once again the councils legal department could well have messed up more contracts. The money is either owed or it isn't. RichardR1

11:39am Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

I've never liked Mark Dempsey and this kind of Plastic Westminster shows why. Dale Heenan's definitely got the better of him here.
I've never liked Mark Dempsey and this kind of Plastic Westminster shows why. Dale Heenan's definitely got the better of him here. Empty Car Park

12:05pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ChannelX says...

Al Smith wrote:
Seeing as you're banging on about financial mess ChannelX and as this is a Swindon newspaper discussing a Swindon Borough Council financial issue would care to tell us what SBC's debt/surplus was when the Conservatives took over from Labour and what the debt is now?

Any answer other than the plain facts and figures (or a statement that you don't know) will look to me like the actions of someone desperately trying to deflect attention away from the failings of Conservative led SBC and people would quite rightly ask themselves why would an ordinary resident of Swindon be so keen to that.
If I recall correctly, SBC was around £7m in surplus 10 years ago when the Tories took control of the council from Labour.

SBC is now around £95m in debt.

As you Labour types are always keen to tell everyone, the period 2008 to 2011 (and even now, really) saw the worst financial and economic disaster in living memory. Couple that with 7 years of chronic central government under-funding in Swindon due to the town having the temerity to vote in a Tory council while the Labour government were in power and the debt mountain is hardly surprising.

Half of it is actually the cost of Wichelstowe, which again would have been a fairly good idea and not lost as much money had it not been for Gordon Brown leading us into the economic collapse and severe recession.

Weirdly, it's you Labour types who keep saying the state must spend, spend, spend to allow us to prosper and that debt is a perfectly acceptable way to see us through the economic downturn... and yet here you are saying that the local council have spent too much and taken on debt.

Still, there's none more hypocritical than a socialist.
[quote][p][bold]Al Smith[/bold] wrote: Seeing as you're banging on about financial mess ChannelX and as this is a Swindon newspaper discussing a Swindon Borough Council financial issue would care to tell us what SBC's debt/surplus was when the Conservatives took over from Labour and what the debt is now? Any answer other than the plain facts and figures (or a statement that you don't know) will look to me like the actions of someone desperately trying to deflect attention away from the failings of Conservative led SBC and people would quite rightly ask themselves why would an ordinary resident of Swindon be so keen to that.[/p][/quote]If I recall correctly, SBC was around £7m in surplus 10 years ago when the Tories took control of the council from Labour. SBC is now around £95m in debt. As you Labour types are always keen to tell everyone, the period 2008 to 2011 (and even now, really) saw the worst financial and economic disaster in living memory. Couple that with 7 years of chronic central government under-funding in Swindon due to the town having the temerity to vote in a Tory council while the Labour government were in power and the debt mountain is hardly surprising. Half of it is actually the cost of Wichelstowe, which again would have been a fairly good idea and not lost as much money had it not been for Gordon Brown leading us into the economic collapse and severe recession. Weirdly, it's you Labour types who keep saying the state must spend, spend, spend to allow us to prosper and that debt is a perfectly acceptable way to see us through the economic downturn... and yet here you are saying that the local council have spent too much and taken on debt. Still, there's none more hypocritical than a socialist. ChannelX

1:07pm Sat 18 Jan 14

anotherimigrant says...

Al Smith wrote:
Seeing as you're banging on about financial mess ChannelX and as this is a Swindon newspaper discussing a Swindon Borough Council financial issue would care to tell us what SBC's debt/surplus was when the Conservatives took over from Labour and what the debt is now?

Any answer other than the plain facts and figures (or a statement that you don't know) will look to me like the actions of someone desperately trying to deflect attention away from the failings of Conservative led SBC and people would quite rightly ask themselves why would an ordinary resident of Swindon be so keen to that.
I can honestly say that you will never get the answer to your question on this site.

Most are councilors in disguise they will lie and cajole and ridicule any sensible person. Trust me.

The rest like me are idiots for wasting my time coming here to find out how all our taxes are wasted, and sorted away into the great pension fund of the lazy slovenly waste of time money and effort of those who work for the council.
[quote][p][bold]Al Smith[/bold] wrote: Seeing as you're banging on about financial mess ChannelX and as this is a Swindon newspaper discussing a Swindon Borough Council financial issue would care to tell us what SBC's debt/surplus was when the Conservatives took over from Labour and what the debt is now? Any answer other than the plain facts and figures (or a statement that you don't know) will look to me like the actions of someone desperately trying to deflect attention away from the failings of Conservative led SBC and people would quite rightly ask themselves why would an ordinary resident of Swindon be so keen to that.[/p][/quote]I can honestly say that you will never get the answer to your question on this site. Most are councilors in disguise they will lie and cajole and ridicule any sensible person. Trust me. The rest like me are idiots for wasting my time coming here to find out how all our taxes are wasted, and sorted away into the great pension fund of the lazy slovenly waste of time money and effort of those who work for the council. anotherimigrant

3:09pm Sat 18 Jan 14

somwal25 says...

to channelX you seem to have a short memory when this council was Thamesdown borough council which was labour controlled the then tory government under funded the council then because the council would not tow the government line on spending and council house building.then when the council became a unitary authority the then tory county council stitched up the new borough council when transferring services staff and buildings . it took the labour controlled council several years to put straight and when the torys took control they inherited a surplus budget which they have squandered away.
to channelX you seem to have a short memory when this council was Thamesdown borough council which was labour controlled the then tory government under funded the council then because the council would not tow the government line on spending and council house building.then when the council became a unitary authority the then tory county council stitched up the new borough council when transferring services staff and buildings . it took the labour controlled council several years to put straight and when the torys took control they inherited a surplus budget which they have squandered away. somwal25

7:12pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
I've never liked Mark Dempsey and this kind of Plastic Westminster shows why. Dale Heenan's definitely got the better of him here.
Ooh look Ringer / ChannelX has used my login name to make an anti-labour comment.

Pretty pointless as you usually accuse me of being a lefty.

Still gave yourself plenty of thumbs though.

What a completely twisted nutjob you are.

I pity the residents of the area you've been elected in
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: I've never liked Mark Dempsey and this kind of Plastic Westminster shows why. Dale Heenan's definitely got the better of him here.[/p][/quote]Ooh look Ringer / ChannelX has used my login name to make an anti-labour comment. Pretty pointless as you usually accuse me of being a lefty. Still gave yourself plenty of thumbs though. What a completely twisted nutjob you are. I pity the residents of the area you've been elected in Empty Car Park

7:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Ringer / ChannelX
Let's have your reply to the questions from Al Smith before you spout more of your thread stripping, troll nonsense.
Ringer / ChannelX Let's have your reply to the questions from Al Smith before you spout more of your thread stripping, troll nonsense. Empty Car Park

7:20pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ChаnnelX says...

somwal25 wrote:
to channelX you seem to have a short memory when this council was Thamesdown borough council which was labour controlled the then tory government under funded the council then because the council would not tow the government line on spending and council house building.then when the council became a unitary authority the then tory county council stitched up the new borough council when transferring services staff and buildings . it took the labour controlled council several years to put straight and when the torys took control they inherited a surplus budget which they have squandered away.
somwal25 you clearly know what you are banging about but I'm afraid I don't.

The previous Labour government were responsible for the collapse of the entire world's finances and this can be laid directly at the feet of Gordon Brown.

You Arthur Scargill types just need to get real and smell the paint.

There's nowt more hypocritical than a socialist.
[quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: to channelX you seem to have a short memory when this council was Thamesdown borough council which was labour controlled the then tory government under funded the council then because the council would not tow the government line on spending and council house building.then when the council became a unitary authority the then tory county council stitched up the new borough council when transferring services staff and buildings . it took the labour controlled council several years to put straight and when the torys took control they inherited a surplus budget which they have squandered away.[/p][/quote]somwal25 you clearly know what you are banging about but I'm afraid I don't. The previous Labour government were responsible for the collapse of the entire world's finances and this can be laid directly at the feet of Gordon Brown. You Arthur Scargill types just need to get real and smell the paint. There's nowt more hypocritical than a socialist. ChаnnelX

7:27pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ChаnnelX says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Ringer / ChannelX
Let's have your reply to the questions from Al Smith before you spout more of your thread stripping, troll nonsense.
Empty I have replied, as you can see. Ok, Al Smith was right in that I was never going to give a straight answer but what did you expect from a Conservative?
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: Ringer / ChannelX Let's have your reply to the questions from Al Smith before you spout more of your thread stripping, troll nonsense.[/p][/quote]Empty I have replied, as you can see. Ok, Al Smith was right in that I was never going to give a straight answer but what did you expect from a Conservative? ChаnnelX

7:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Davey Gravey says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
I've never liked Mark Dempsey and this kind of Plastic Westminster shows why. Dale Heenan's definitely got the better of him here.
Ooh look Ringer / ChannelX has used my login name to make an anti-labour comment.

Pretty pointless as you usually accuse me of being a lefty.

Still gave yourself plenty of thumbs though.

What a completely twisted nutjob you are.

I pity the residents of the area you've been elected in
The adver could really go to town on the idiot. A councillor acting that way on the town's newspaper website would make good headlines if they got their act together.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: I've never liked Mark Dempsey and this kind of Plastic Westminster shows why. Dale Heenan's definitely got the better of him here.[/p][/quote]Ooh look Ringer / ChannelX has used my login name to make an anti-labour comment. Pretty pointless as you usually accuse me of being a lefty. Still gave yourself plenty of thumbs though. What a completely twisted nutjob you are. I pity the residents of the area you've been elected in[/p][/quote]The adver could really go to town on the idiot. A councillor acting that way on the town's newspaper website would make good headlines if they got their act together. Davey Gravey

9:05pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
Empty Car Park wrote:
I've never liked Mark Dempsey and this kind of Plastic Westminster shows why. Dale Heenan's definitely got the better of him here.
Ooh look Ringer / ChannelX has used my login name to make an anti-labour comment.

Pretty pointless as you usually accuse me of being a lefty.

Still gave yourself plenty of thumbs though.

What a completely twisted nutjob you are.

I pity the residents of the area you've been elected in
The adver could really go to town on the idiot. A councillor acting that way on the town's newspaper website would make good headlines if they got their act together.
Indeed.
It's pretty common knowledge on these threads that I don't have a very high opinion of SBC.
I certainly have no respect for Dale Heenan. Not least for his determination to end parish councils and close airfields.
I once expressed gratitude of Mark Dempsey objecting to the Coate development (proving that I'm a labour loyalist in Ringers bible)

As a councillor and director of an IT data company, the idiot is really pushing his luck.
Personally, as someone who works out of town and soon to be moving out of town, I don't know wether to laugh or feel sorry for the cretin.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: I've never liked Mark Dempsey and this kind of Plastic Westminster shows why. Dale Heenan's definitely got the better of him here.[/p][/quote]Ooh look Ringer / ChannelX has used my login name to make an anti-labour comment. Pretty pointless as you usually accuse me of being a lefty. Still gave yourself plenty of thumbs though. What a completely twisted nutjob you are. I pity the residents of the area you've been elected in[/p][/quote]The adver could really go to town on the idiot. A councillor acting that way on the town's newspaper website would make good headlines if they got their act together.[/p][/quote]Indeed. It's pretty common knowledge on these threads that I don't have a very high opinion of SBC. I certainly have no respect for Dale Heenan. Not least for his determination to end parish councils and close airfields. I once expressed gratitude of Mark Dempsey objecting to the Coate development (proving that I'm a labour loyalist in Ringers bible) As a councillor and director of an IT data company, the idiot is really pushing his luck. Personally, as someone who works out of town and soon to be moving out of town, I don't know wether to laugh or feel sorry for the cretin. Empty Car Park

9:42pm Sat 18 Jan 14

somwal25 says...

channelX
just because i do not agree with what you are saying makes me a socialist.you do not know me so how can you judge me. i am just pointing out that what ever political party is in power at Westminster this council has had a raw deal. the problem is Swindon has become a satellite for London hence house prices but for funding is classed as being in the south west. as for the financial crash it first started in the USA. but then the truth does not fit with your right wing views
channelX just because i do not agree with what you are saying makes me a socialist.you do not know me so how can you judge me. i am just pointing out that what ever political party is in power at Westminster this council has had a raw deal. the problem is Swindon has become a satellite for London hence house prices but for funding is classed as being in the south west. as for the financial crash it first started in the USA. but then the truth does not fit with your right wing views somwal25

10:12am Sun 19 Jan 14

anotherimigrant says...

somwal25 wrote:
to channelX you seem to have a short memory when this council was Thamesdown borough council which was labour controlled the then tory government under funded the council then because the council would not tow the government line on spending and council house building.then when the council became a unitary authority the then tory county council stitched up the new borough council when transferring services staff and buildings . it took the labour controlled council several years to put straight and when the torys took control they inherited a surplus budget which they have squandered away.
so the bottom line to what your saying is, their all as bad as each other, their all as crooked as the back leg of a dog and not one of them can be trusted to even tell you the time of day..

I totally agree.

BUT what can we do about it. I vote for a revolution.
[quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: to channelX you seem to have a short memory when this council was Thamesdown borough council which was labour controlled the then tory government under funded the council then because the council would not tow the government line on spending and council house building.then when the council became a unitary authority the then tory county council stitched up the new borough council when transferring services staff and buildings . it took the labour controlled council several years to put straight and when the torys took control they inherited a surplus budget which they have squandered away.[/p][/quote]so the bottom line to what your saying is, their all as bad as each other, their all as crooked as the back leg of a dog and not one of them can be trusted to even tell you the time of day.. I totally agree. BUT what can we do about it. I vote for a revolution. anotherimigrant

10:31am Sun 19 Jan 14

anotherimigrant says...

Town Halls are always pleading poverty. There’s never enough money to fill the potholes, sweep the streets or empty the dustbins once a week.

If savings have to be made, ‘frontline’ services will inevitably suffer. Behind the scenes, however, the gravy train trundles on oblivious to economic reality.

As they prepare to turn off the lights and board up old people’s day centres, flog off the libraries to Tesco Express and sack home helps, councillors continue to fill their boots at the taxpayer’s expense.


Between 2007 and 2012, a total of £440 million was spent on credit cards issued to councillors and staff, who treated themselves to everything from Caribbean holidays to meals in Michelin-starred restaurants.

At the same time as they were slashing public services because of the ‘savage cuts’, they were jetting off to exotic locations, including Puerto Rico, Brazil and Australia. Town Halls spent £3.7 million on foreign travel to no less than 90 different destinations.

One of the worst offenders was the disgraced Tory peer Lord Hanningfield, who was jailed for fiddling his parliamentary expenses.

In his capacity as leader of Essex County Council, he used his official credit card to fly business class to a meaningless conference in the Bahamas. He claimed he couldn’t travel economy because he had a bad back.


The biggest racket is the system of ‘allowances’ which means it is not uncommon for councillors to receive £20,000 a year from the public purse. Some council leaders are on £50,000 plus.

These sums are outrageous but they’re only the tip of a very large iceberg. Most of the cost of local government goes not on ‘services’, as they try to pretend, but on keeping councillors and staff in the manner to which they have become accustomed.

Even in the poorest areas, senior local government officers are paid astronomical salaries in comparison with most of those they are employed to serve. Their gold-plated, inflation-proof pensions are padded with money which could be spent on schools, or social services or employing a few more dustmen.


More of this as we approach election time:)
Town Halls are always pleading poverty. There’s never enough money to fill the potholes, sweep the streets or empty the dustbins once a week. If savings have to be made, ‘frontline’ services will inevitably suffer. Behind the scenes, however, the gravy train trundles on oblivious to economic reality. As they prepare to turn off the lights and board up old people’s day centres, flog off the libraries to Tesco Express and sack home helps, councillors continue to fill their boots at the taxpayer’s expense. Between 2007 and 2012, a total of £440 million was spent on credit cards issued to councillors and staff, who treated themselves to everything from Caribbean holidays to meals in Michelin-starred restaurants. At the same time as they were slashing public services because of the ‘savage cuts’, they were jetting off to exotic locations, including Puerto Rico, Brazil and Australia. Town Halls spent £3.7 million on foreign travel to no less than 90 different destinations. One of the worst offenders was the disgraced Tory peer Lord Hanningfield, who was jailed for fiddling his parliamentary expenses. In his capacity as leader of Essex County Council, he used his official credit card to fly business class to a meaningless conference in the Bahamas. He claimed he couldn’t travel economy because he had a bad back. The biggest racket is the system of ‘allowances’ which means it is not uncommon for councillors to receive £20,000 a year from the public purse. Some council leaders are on £50,000 plus. These sums are outrageous but they’re only the tip of a very large iceberg. Most of the cost of local government goes not on ‘services’, as they try to pretend, but on keeping councillors and staff in the manner to which they have become accustomed. Even in the poorest areas, senior local government officers are paid astronomical salaries in comparison with most of those they are employed to serve. Their gold-plated, inflation-proof pensions are padded with money which could be spent on schools, or social services or employing a few more dustmen. More of this as we approach election time:) anotherimigrant

8:34pm Mon 20 Jan 14

trolley dolley says...

What is the connection between councillors allowances and 106 cash.

NONE.

All 106 money should be listed for local people to see just what is available and how it is planned to spend it. Transparency is the order of the day.

I have asked this before, "who decides what the money is spent on and how much".

Everything should be listed and available on the council web site and shown in a way that local people can understand.

It is no good to say that local ward councillors bid for this money, it should be shown just what is there to be used and how it is being allocated.
What is the connection between councillors allowances and 106 cash. NONE. All 106 money should be listed for local people to see just what is available and how it is planned to spend it. Transparency is the order of the day. I have asked this before, "who decides what the money is spent on and how much". Everything should be listed and available on the council web site and shown in a way that local people can understand. It is no good to say that local ward councillors bid for this money, it should be shown just what is there to be used and how it is being allocated. trolley dolley

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